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/xs/ is a place to discuss all types of extreme sports and similar physical activities, which include (but are not limited to) skydiving, surfing, skateboarding, snowboarding, climbing, rafting, bungee-jumping, parkour, BMX & mountain biking, airsoft, paintball, etc.

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Spooky Edition

You're never too old/fat to skate.
Skateboarding is 90% mental 10% physical. You're never too old to sprain your cankles.
Skatepark Etiquette: Be Macho Man not Jake the Snake
Trick Tip: SS BS TS. approach ledge with speed. Ollie, turn, slide, and ride away clean.
Beginner Tip: don't fall off.

Thread video: https://youtu.be/qsebzPaSp7E


Thread Questions:

>What trick/skill are you working on?


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>>72197
>>72202
Dude, this video helped so much. I actually held some for about 5 seconds today, which is so far a record. Highly recommend this vid for any other beginner's trying to learn manu- I mean WHEELIES
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>>72219
Thanks dude. Have started following him.

Weirdly enough, after yesterday's lazy, rusty sesh where I just carved the bowl for about an hour, I went to a concert and spent the whole night dancing. Woke up feeling tired, but refreshed, like I'd worked out all the knots. Just spent today cruising around the city for a few hours and I feel good. Guess I just need to stay more active in general, maybe make sure I make time to just relax on my board instead of going for a new trick/skill every session.
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>>71640
He's right and he should say it
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>>72328
>soulless company apes an aesthetic
>But it goes hard tho
fuck off trend
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>>72332
that's pretty funny anon, I'd laugh about while we're chilling

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https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2021/09/e1bffcc07f28-breaking-news-record-holding-sumo-grand-champion-hakuho-to-retire-source.html

The legend will never die.
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>>71927
Go home, white piggu
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>>71927
wow jason seems like a cool nigga I would eat chankonabe and some tall glasses of beer
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What stable will kotoshoho's brother go to? He looks like a fucking stud. Also any news from sadogatake?
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>>72298
>Also any news from sadogatake?
What are you looking for?
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>>71927
>Fatman action figure
Could. Not. Make. It. Up.

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Here you might post about your grappling endeavors; are you training a grappling sport? Do you fantasize about grappling your abusive dad, or at least the feelings he makes you have?

Post drills, yootoob tutorials, bantz and other shit here :)
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>>72008
hey that's pretty good
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I've been really digging the clock choke lately.
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>>61069
i read the article and all it showed is that judo was btfoing totsukaryu during randori from its superior standup. Sure there was no good primary source, but the fact that the police decided to adopt judo after hosting the police competition is evidence enough that it was better for the nonlethal hand to hand shit that police had to do
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>>63468
a gun
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>>71996
Check out Takeshi Amitani's videos for traditional sumo exercises. Accomplished amateur sumo wrestler who trained with some big pro names while they were coming up. Also speaks English since he coached/competed in the US for awhile.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbldL6ocEbJT3hQ66mAMb9FJBy273LDcG

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>>24138
Ant brain mentality. This man is gonna BREAK NEW GROUND SOAPING IN NEWBALANCES and you're gonna front? That's the real corny, bro
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>>28082
All on wheels must kneel.
The spring reigns supreme.
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>>65450
These were a thing. Quite logical in my opinion.
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soaper bump
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chad soaper bump

Singlesticks on the high seas edition.

>What is HEMA?
HEMA stands for Historical European Martial Arts, sometimes also called Historical Fencing.
It's reconstructing how to fight with swords, daggers, polearms and other weapons based on old European fighting treatises

>What does it look like?
Inside the World of Longsword Fighting - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zueF4Mu2uM
Back to the source - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DBmNVHTmNs
Martin Fabian Sparring - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8QlbKfX84k

>Where can I find these treatises?
https://wiktenauer.com/wiki/Main_Page
https://wiktenauer.com/wiki/Category:Weapons


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>>72078
>does bowie knife fighting count as hema?
>The bowie knife is a distinctly American tradition even considering its European influences, so I don't think it counts as HEMA.
Of course that'll entirely upon what is "historical", what is the time frame. Some people judge that WW2 combatives can be said to be HEMA, I would say that anything that is beyond the age of the oldest living person might be a decent idea of "historical", before the 20th c. is sensible as a soft barrier.
Then what is European, it might well be strictly in Europe or more like "western" in which case american traditions which are arguably largely taken from Europe might apply. There is also the case of colonial era fencing, especially the dispute between spanish and colonial destreza, with Rada and other sources located in Peru, etc. So this is an historical discussion in itself.

In the end, one of the major point of the HEMA movement is that there is no governing body. You'll find a lot of people agreeing that bowie knife is interesting and worth an inquiry and even if people think that it's not HEMA, you don't really need to care. HEMA is mostly a methodology, starting from a source, hence "historical" because it uses the historical method.
The problem there is finding a legit bowie knife source...
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>>72114
>It looks more like Jiu Jitsu actually
Heres a fun little anecdote, I do judo as well as HEMA and had practiced but never really used sode tsurikomi goshi until I got into hema dagger. Multiple times I found my self eith my opponent grabbing my weapon hand and me grabbing theres. The first time I did like a double take before going "oh wait I know this position" then dumping them on their ass.

For those unfaniliar with the technique, here you go.
https://youtu.be/QsmAxpmYLOI
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>>72131
I'd say pre WW2 is HEMA, anything after is modern. WW2 changed lots and lots of stuff in martial arts, just compare Boxing, Kendo and Karate before and after. 1920s boxing is basically a different style that is more like what we consider a martial art.
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>>72188
That reasonable as well. The only issue coming up is, why would you bother HEMAing WW2 stuff and around when you can have the direct lineages of this stuff like pre-war kendo, Fairbairn combatives, Applegate's, Nadi's students etc. A proven reliable direct lineage, especially one that isn't too old will imho be superior with trying to HEMA your way through. That's the same deal with classical fencing for instance.
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>>72064
No. His views on women are his only really powerful weapon.

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Winch Edition:

Post Bikes
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Threadly question:
What is the worse injury you received from mountain biking?
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these are my local trails, only found this vid recently but absolutley creasing that the city council got a world cup racer (among others) to hoon down two of the chunkiest grade5s in the area to promote how accessible MTB is in this city XD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQXDkOWusYI

(black trails in question are V and TTS on trailforks - wellington, mount victoria)
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>>72276
the root garden at 1:20 looks so fun. I hate how cucked mtb is in california. There are so many people using trails here that it's impossible to get hikers and horse riders off them
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Sup fellow mountainbike enthousiasts :)
3 months ago I bought a 2011 Stumpy fsr (https://www.specialized.com/nl/nl/stumpjumper-fsr-elite/p/23340/specs) and the cassette needs replacing. I am wanting to get a new rear wheel with 12sp hub for NX setup and was wondering if the NX dub cranks would fit my GXP bottom bracket? Current cranks are "carbon" sram with removable spider? Anyone know if I could use same cranks with single single gear upfront if I get a 32/34t and some spacers? Very new to bike mechanics so all advice is welcome.
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>>71542
finally a decent OP pic for this general.
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>>72343
I suspect there are some compatibility issues you will encounter. Look into getting a 1x10sp shimano group set, but keep the crabks and change the chain ring to a 1x specific chain ring.

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What's your favorite example of shitty martial arts beating more effective styles?
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>>72358
Yeah, I feel bad for people that buy into excuses like that and waste their time on ineffective stuff. Especially nowadays when there's so much information available.
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>>72357
It's from the bullshido forums circa 2003, which, as was pointed out, wasn't preserved when the site was sold. Yeah, yeah it's real "convenient" that I can't provide a hyperlink but idgaf. I don't even do karate of any style, so I don't have a stake in the game. I just think it's ridiculous that some MMAutists flip their shit and deny it when there's a one in fifty example of something not MMA-testing beating something that is as if their whole worldview falls apart if things aren't absolute. Naturally, that also applies to TMAutists who think if they find one video of Wing Chun beating boxing it overturns the reputations of both systems. It's just dumb and I see it repeated elsewhere outside of martial arts, mostly in politics and even in hard science where it's meant to be controlled against.

>>72358
>goon
Go back, tenbux filth.
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>>72358 I came here from the main page. Was interested in the topic and then caught up on the ever-present discussion about Aikido. Dunno this board culture (if there is such at all).
Anyway, some background: I practiced Aikido for about a year and a half, and then once in Japan was privileged enough to see a man's show on the control of one's self.
So. I think there is usually a great, great, giganormous misconception about what Aikido is, and what it is useful for. Yes, you *could* sometimes k.o. an opponent with it: one of my mates in the clases, who worked as a police alongside the teacher (we'll get into him in a moment), told me he had seen him use Aikido grappling tecniques to ensure a criminal would not get away. And the pamphlets selling the clases I saw this year actually sold the idea Aikido is provedly "effective".
But the reality once you start attending is, as the teacher most eloquently put it: "well, what I always say is, it'll be better than if you didn't have Aikido.
So yeah, pragmatically speaking, Aikido is not the ultimate martial art. That's not, I think, why anyone should take this discipline. But I saw the teacher move about to teach us for a year and a half and I can say the way he used his body never stopped mesmerizing me. He was a badass in style, language and humor, and I kinda looked up to him.
Again, I witnessed a similar occurrence in Japan, but elevated to the extreme. Maybe it still is available: Bunraku, in Tokyo, look it up. He showed his swordman skill, and his knowledge of martial arts, and even put on a Noh Oni mask and showed us how deeply unsettling a man with the control of his body could become. It meant the absolute dominion over one's own body, how not to move an inch more than you had decided beforehand. It means, conquering your body, not that of your opponent.
Is that good? What benefits does it bring? Can't say, other than the fact it was beautiful for me to watch.
PD: I stopped because I got tired, btw. Yeah.
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>>72364
Btw, I remember an anecdote I read in a super condescending book of sorts about Bushido that close to his death, Ueshiba kind of had to be carried by his disciples from place to place, or maybe it was only an instance, or whatever. Anyway, his disciples reportedly couldn't lift him up, no matter how they tried, even when they all tried at the same time. They asked O-Sensei what was happening, and he then answered with a simple "Oh, yeah, I had forgotten to separarte heaven and earth back." The next time they found him light as a feather.
True or not, I find it cool.
PD: Now I remember about it, my father used to tell me a full-fledged /x/ worth y story about a martial arts practitioner who came to a... society of sorts he used to belong to. I maw write it down if anyone's interested.
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>>72363
Makes sense. Sucks that old forums like that weren't preserved better. So much of the old internet is lost now. I agree with pretty much everything you wrote there.

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This board is moving so fast no one will notice my Gimi thread
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Gimi will win tomorrow
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Brothers I was banned but I shall return
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>>72350
As expected from Estonia
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>>72353
Not Estonia

How the hell is there no demand for a return of gladiatorial combat? Yeah I know HEMA exists, but I'm talking actual high-stakes bloodsport here. Nobody wants to see guys sword fight to near death?
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>>72038
>dog brothers
>bunch of old men flailing sticks and fake swords around at each other
kali and other Filipino martial arts are such a meme, yeah i'm sure they have a lot of toughness being able to constantly whack each other in the head with sticks but all this spinning bullshit just gets defeated by simple stabs and even sowing machine esque thrusts
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>>71962
Gladiators could and did die, but the fights were not life or death struggles one after another all day every day. It wasn't possible to efficiently run the arena that way and there was a lot of stage magic involved.

Many fights had predetermined outcomes. One fighter would put something like a bloated organ filled with blood sourced from slaughtered livestock and hide it in his gear. The fighter intended to win would stab there, blow up the blood balloon, and the loser would "die". The "dead" guy would then come back later in a different outfit fighting under a new name.
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>>72297
>Many fights had predetermined outcomes. One fighter would put something like a bloated organ filled with blood sourced from slaughtered livestock and hide it in his gear. The fighter intended to win would stab there, blow up the blood balloon, and the loser would "die". The "dead" guy would then come back later in a different outfit fighting under a new name.
Source? The fact that ive literally never heard about this before makes me assume youre pulling it out of your ass.
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>>72303
https://aginglikewine.com/did-roman-gladiators-fight-to-the-death/
https://www.quora.com/Were-gladiator-fights-fake
Bear in mind that given what we know about the Romans and their conscientiousness towards sanitation it's very suspicious that archaeologists have never dug up the expected burial plots for all of those dead gladiators with the expected wounds. A great deal of the confirmed gladiator remnants show evidence of having been killed with a knife instead of the weapons we believe were used in the actual fights.

I don't believe that "most" fights were fake like the early anon claims, but they definitely got faker the higher up in the social ladder the fighters got when there was big money riding on the event or the reputation of some noble (even an Emperor).

In other words it's a lot like boxing today.
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>>72346
Not boxing. That gladiator shit was old southern wrasslin. Straight up working the marks. Lucius is going over so Marcus has to get some color to sell the death angle. Then they send Marcus to Hispania and make him wear a helmet and work a new gimmick. Of course if you were a worthless slave good luck you are fighting bears and lions for real.

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Keep strictly real steel gun related laws and politics to >>>/k/ and >>>/pol/. Leave the gun and gear porn.

If you have a useful guide or want to rework one for the OP, post it and someone will add it to the next one.

>Updated Newbie pastebin
https://pastebin.com/Qy01C4Ta

>/asg/ retailer guide
http://pastebin.com/YHNFKKt6

>Legal comprehensive, crosscheck with your local laws to be on the safe side
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_issues_in_airs

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>>72101
don't
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>>72107
please sir
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>>71500
>>71555
Jet and Swamp seem fine, though Jet is 100% a shill for whomever is sending him free shit or paying him. But atleast he seems to pick the sponsors who don't make terrible shit.

Alfonse is cool, I met him at an event a few years ago and he was really nice to everyone and even helped a kid that was out there who had a noticeable disability actually do well in the games.
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>>72120
I should add Khanseb to the list since he started getting back into airsoft again too and he's pretty cool
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Are biodegradable BBs edible

the way they through ballistic strikes is quite interesting to me and people who have tried it always tell me its a seriously hard punch, but i also get a lot of people from other martial arts telling me its all horse shit. thoughts?
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>>72108
A thrust is a push with a different intent. Imagine ringing a bell and pushing a bell so it swings. If you punch with the ringing feeling the punch will be hard, if you punch with the swinging feeling, you'll just move the other guy.

You can train this with a light heavy bag, let someone hold it. Now punch it. He should feel some force coming through to him even through the thick bag. You will find that to do this, you need to stay totally relaxed, your punch will feel weak to you but strong to the other guy. When you use the wrong force, the punch will feel strong to you and weak to the opponent.

An important thing is learning not to hold anything back (see: Georges Carpentier's views on boxing).
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>>72104
>im my personal opinion raised shoulders for "protection" seems like a very small and almost useless thing to care about seeing as without gloves your entire front face is left open becuase if your hands not being thick enough to create a shield.
Lmao, enjoy getting your chin spun around your head from counter hooks.
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It's Russian aikido. It's shit. Learn something that works, like sambo is you're a russophile.
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>>72080
Systema is just a word that is wquivalent to "school" or ryu

>the way they through ballistic strikes is quite interesting to me
This is just good form, same thing when karate says to punch with the entire body, or boxing says to punch with the toes. You can do it with way less tension than the drills.
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"Whose system?" is the question. There's a wide spectrum of useful things to learn versus rarefied bullshido depending on the surname attached to the systema term.

Systema Vyun, for example, is largely a collation of sensible principles you can apply to different schools of fighting. Systema Ryabko, on the other hand, is the kind of stuff that McDojodotcom and Bullshidodotnet were created to ridicule (and then some).

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So we know by now that in unarmed arts, full contact disciplines rule supreme.
What about armed encounters, with knives or sticks? Any data about those?
Russo-Japanese war was a mix of kendo and German fencing (Gunto jutsu or whatever), WW2 people used fencing, in Vietnam they used Escrima, police still use escrima etc. etc.
Then you got the lamb method nightstick, Piper system for knife etc. etc.

Realistically, people won't be using swords anymore. The weapon options today are knife, stick (Any kind of cudgel, telescope batons, right up to baseball bats), maybe machetes if you're really hardcore.

What do you think? What should we train to prepare for weapon against weapon fights?
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>>72302
Back then people regularily used swords on both sides.
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>>72312
>That's what the books say
Give a quote
>Also we're talking rapier/smallsword era here, not Liechtenauer.
Lmao
>Many People say that with Sword in Hand the Rules of the School are not observed, and that 'tis sufficient to have a good Heart: It is certain that People who are subject to this Error, are not capable of following the Rules which are to be acquired only by putting a good Theory in Practice; which by frequent Use, disposes the Eye and the Part of Executing so well, that it is almost impossible to act otherwise: And as to the Practice of Schools and of the Sword, 'tis the same; for no one ought to do any thing with the Foil, but what he knows by Experience to be without Risque, according to his Rules. In some Cases, it is true, what is esteemed good in one, is not in the other. For Example: Thrusts with the Foil are good only on the Body, and with the Sword they are good every where; and that in an Assault with the Foil, the joining is reckoned as nothing, whereas in Battle 'tis the Seal of the Victory; but except in that, it should be alike in every Thing.
>Others say that if they had to do with experienced Men, they would not give them Time to put themselves in Guard; as if a Man who is expert were not always on his Guard, being more knowing, and better disposed, not only to place himself at once, by the Habit that all his Parts have contrasted, but also to surprise, and to avoid being surprised, by the Knowledge he has of Time and Measure: On the contrary, an unskilful Person being ignorant of both, is easily catch'd; besides, that his Parts being unaccustomed to place themselves regularly, or at once, must always be in a continual Motion, vainly seeking their Place, by which they give the Time, and would lose it if it were given to them.
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>>72089
muay thai.
They historiacally strapped swords to their shins
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>>72313
Which side had the guns tho?
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>>72326
That sounds completely retarded and I believe it.

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Next door I have a boxing club and a thai club, what should I choose? Which one is more efficient?

Thai seems more complete to me but I'm naturally not very good with my legs, I don't use them much in combat and I have the impression that with thai it's mainly kicks and punches only for support

Boxing is more natural for me but it seems incomplete and I would never know how to place a good kick or with this

So?
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>>72192
Indeed, I'm not saying you need to be better than Ben Askren to deal with his double legs. Play to your strengths. But you will need to focus on defensive wrestling to not get taken down at will. Trying to be Jorge masvidal every time someone shoots in on you is not a real plan.
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>>72159
Yeah but most likely the person you're fighting has never been kicked in the legs. Without any conditioning they're gonna feel it immediately. Since most people don't know how to defend it and put a lot of their weight foward you're more than likely going to at least throw them off balance.
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>>67169
Learn ObliquekickDo
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>>72236
It's a myth. I'd tell you to try it in a brawl and see for yourself but you'd get beaten up.
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>>72314
I don't need to. There's enough video evidence online of them being effective. If even pros struggle against them what makes you think an average Joe can take them?

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Sanda
>45 mins warm up with running in circles, stretching, line drills and some Wushu jumping
>1 hour pad work
>last 10 minutes or so: Circuit training with BWEs, just push ups, jack knife sit ups etc., nothing fancy

Judo
>30 mins warm up with breakfalls, stretching and BWEs
>1 hour randori with changing partners, so you're mostly learning by doing. Roughly 50% standup, 50% ground.
>Absolute beginners get some technique drills for the first 3 lessons or so, over the next lessons the drills are slowly exchanged for randori
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Goju ryu karate
>45 mins warm up with Junbi Undo and maybe Hojo Undo
>15 mins kihon
>15 mins kata depending on your rank
>15 mins drills or iri kumi sparring (basically kyokushin rules)
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Judo
>30 minutes full contact wrestling throws allowed
>45 minutes randori
>15 minutes conditioning

>>71891
Jealous. I'd love to do Sanda or Daidojuku over MMA.
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>>72294
*full contact soccer with wrestling
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>>71891
>stretch warm up basics first 15 mins
>whatever the fuck I want to do for the next hour
Feels good to be the king. Did weapons last night, kids could not understand how a tonfa works but were super impressed by me, feels good
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>>72294
>I'd love to do Sanda
It's just kickboxing with wrestling takedowns.




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