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/xs/ is a place to discuss all types of extreme sports and similar physical activities, which include (but are not limited to) skydiving, surfing, skateboarding, snowboarding, climbing, rafting, bungee-jumping, parkour, BMX & mountain biking, airsoft, paintball, etc.

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>wrestling mma class
>never fought before
>get paired up with 2 year bjj guy because of my weight and height
>go a couple times drilling a move
>cunt throws me across the room
>this sort of thing continues
>he realizes i suck and starts going slow
>im still trying to get an idea of how any of this shit works
>he's visibly annoyed at me but trying to hide it
>im pretty demoralized
i dont think i want to go back guys honestly i knew i would suck but i didn't expect to get thrown about that much and really learn much at all in the first go. it doesn't seem very friendly atmosphere either kind of like i was intruding on peoples time or something
just keep going and tell people that you're new. they'll either slow down and teach you or be a dickhead like that guy
everyone sucks at some point but going back will help build your confidence
wrestling is very fucking hard. Go to BJJ classes at first. They're much more newb friendly
The only BJJ place is the same place I went for wrestling, I think most people were there to learn wrestling to add to BJJ
Yeah I guess I'll go again but I'm not looking forward to it really, maybe I'll start with BJJ and try to find a different place

When will retarded redditors admit that the only thing that really matters in a fight is physical size? Martial arts just let men win more quickly and efficiently against manlets who were going to lose anyway.

If you’re less than 6’ tall martial arts will only delay the inevitable and make you look like a tryhard who thinks that brain > brawn, and this line of thinking will get you killed IRL. Manlet self defense should emphasize kissing ass and accepting your role in the pecking order.
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Hey retard, you know there's weight divisions right? Literally everyone knows size is everything. What are u bitching about?
LMAO. You're a total retard who used the worst example to prove your point. That was one of the Gracie brothers who beat the ass of some meathead bodybuilder who kept talking shit on radio. Basically the entire 7 minutes you describe is the body builder getting man handled by a man 100+ lbs less heavy than him. Everything from grappling to ground control to even basic striking, that bodybuilder was completely out of his league. Also, your point about a a twink getting rekt faster makes no sense. Regardless, someone who has trained will have an inherent advantage in that respect.
Size matters among people of equal skill. Your fat ass probably outweighs mayweather by like 150lbs but He would still knock your block off
Tell that to this guy
wonder how many solid legkicks this big nigga can take. you saw el cucuy kick the shit out of that metal pole with no reaction whatsoever, reckon its a lot tougher than this guys shins.

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Post yfw skating.
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How early? Like 6-10am?
it'll be empty before 9 but yeah around here (portland suburb) 930-noon or so on a weekend it's mostly guys in their late 20s early 30s
I changed my set up and in learning kickflips on it I changed my technique a bit. I tried my back foot more like my ollies and they felt much more snappy and poppy. Also delayed my flick a fraction too. Been a long time since I thought about my kickflips but hoping with more control to flip into something sometime soon.
I’ll have to try to actually get up early then. Thanks anon.
you forgot the part where you stay on your phone for 30min intervals throughout the "skate" sesh

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The route setter known as 4chan edition

>Should I start climbing?
Yes. Get a friend, find your closest gym, go there and rent some shoes. Start with bouldering. Usually two colored tape-marks set the start of the route and the color of the tape is difficulty. Route is the same-colored grips up until the topmost grip (not edge of wall). There's usually a difficulty chart around the gym somewhere. Two hands on the last grip = you've sent it, congratulations.

>How do I start toproping?
You have to learn how to belay. Almost every climbing gym has toproping courses if they have toprope walls. Same grip-color system as with the bouldering, but here it's more common with each route having a specific grade instead of being within a range of grades. The grading system differs internationally and for style see here for more info: https://www.sportrock.com/post/understanding-climbing-grades

>I just bought a BeastMaker 2000™, will I finally git gud?
No, you'll just fuck up your tendons. Google "Eva Lopez fingerboard routine" to learn how to use a fingerboards safely.

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leftist people are more open and tend to try new stuff

leftists generally do less backbreaking labor and work less hours

leftist go to college, a lot of people start climbing in college

leftists more likely to not be fat

- the sooner u realize ur weird the better

- finding a climbing partner is hard, you trust each other with your life after all
6a slab. I cant strongarm 6a’s with overhang because of injury in tendons thats ontop of my shoulder. [spoiler]Still think i cant do them because of shitty footwork though[/spoiler]

Any tips for rehabilitating a fucked up rotator cuff tendon injury? Im gonna see a sports therapist soon but i really wanna start doing small stuff before i go to make myself feel better.
North Idaho. Great climbing and outdoor shit in general. Sane people.
Thanks for the 'advice'.

Bought one of those massage gun things to ram the shit out of it and rested it a week, seems to mostly be better now.

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Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu General
Support woman grapplers edition


Belt Checker

Previous thread

Thread question
>What is a technique you have learnt from a woman grappler?
For me, it was an X-Guard sweep from Michelle Nicholini
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I think if you "forget" your belt every now and then nobody will care, but I don't know why you'd want to not wear it. I don't really care myself about stripes but the belt colours are a good indicator for me of someone's skill, especially to outside people, so they know how hard to go or not to feel bad if they get bodied by someone. Like if a newer guy came in and had a question, they know to go to one of the color belts for an answer. That and I think with some coaches they see it as a "return" on their investment of the hours put into you. Like I said, I don't really care about stripes, but I knew to act happy/grateful at gradings because my coach did and it made him proud to be able to say "yeah, this is one of my black belts", although that is a bit of ego on their part as well.

That being said, I know Gustavo Falciroli (4th degree black belt) opened a gym during COVID and doesn't use belts at all, I think it's just white belts for everyone including him. He is also a proud autist and has that autism puzzle logo tattooed on him so again, could just be actual belt autism.
I use it every time I shower and I always shower immediately when I come home from practice.
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I took this test so yeah I'm gonna wear that belt because I know I earned it.
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Here's a better explanation.
Let's be real, y'all just want an excuse to cuddle with hot sweaty men. A male strip clubs would be a cheaper alternative. I bet if you walked into my aikido gym, you wouldn't walk out of it...

So I have been doing taekwondo since Spring of 2021 and i'm now a blue belt entering my first tournament. I haven't been training like I should and only have a week please give me some of the best advice you can give because I want to win this tournament or come close. Also what training should I do to help?
Just spar.
IFT or WT?

1.) Distance management is possibly the most important part of striking arts. You should know EXACTLY what distance you can use what kick. Trying to use a longer range move from too close will just off-balance you and trying to use a closer range move from too far will leave you open.

2.) Do NOT exclusively dodge backwards. Side steps are your friend and prevent you from being driven to the edge/corner of the ring.

3.) I personally find it helpful to watch the opponent's lead shoulder, as almost any kick they throw will be telegraphed there. The shoulder leaning back means the front foot is coming up. The shoulder turning to open the chest means the back foot is coming around. The shoulder turning the other way means the back foot is coming around the back for a spin kick. Whatever they do, that shoulder is going to move and tell you what's coming, so long as you're fast enough to react.
practise real martial arts you fucking faggot

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I very glad /xs/ basically became the martial arts board. Of course we like all extreme sport here but still, feels good man.
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If they're genuinely good in any metric, they'll appreciate having a large human being to train with. So even if it's from a selfish standpoint, it's in their favor to teach you how to move.
not him but it's effective and cheap. Your size will also help you implement it on regular randos if you ever need to.
It's Great, Hope it doesn't get ruined
OP of this question here. Bros, I'm gonna be looking into those places nearby more, but another question: i have some emotional issues (from my mother because she has bipolar) and im practically an adrenaline junkie. is the latter a bad thing to do when approaching martial arts
I mean, I think most competitive fighters are thrill seekers to some degree. Just don’t get yourself hurt on purpose.

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No but I got punched by a girl once at a party because I shoved her boyfriend. The punch was so pathetic I barely felt anything. Then I hit her and broke her nose.
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if this isnt a larp you seriously deserve a thousand years of torment for not pursuing her
wish i knew
Same here. My ex choked me out with her legs
Is Bane the referee?

Started mauy thai at 18-19, have taken month breaks from the gym for work a good amount of times. I'm 120 pounds and 5'9, 20 years old. People say I'm naturally good at fighting, and I enjoy fighting a lot. But I still have to work most of the week to pay the bills. How far could I go by 25 if I came back and went hard at it? Maybe 2 or even 3 classes when I can, but work still taking up a majority of my time.

Pic not me, but my gym.
I'm assuming "2 or 3 when I can" means per week, and not every week. I'm not trying to crush your dreams, but that's "enthusiastic hobby" numbers. But ask your coach about it. Maybe there's a smoker or something coming up, you can go find out for yourself if you're a natural.
I meant 2 to 3 days a week when I'm off, multiple classes a day. And maybe everyday after work at 6. That's like 12 or 14 hours a week, how good can I get within 5 years of that routine?
>how far can I go
As far as your feet will carry you. Let me ask you a question, is fighting professionally an idle fantasy or a true dream? If it’s the former there’s nothing wrong with being a hobbyists. Most of us who actually train here are hobbyists. The rest who’s at they’re working out 6 days a week and fighting professionally are more than likely LARPer. If you really think fighting is what you were made for though you ought to chase that dream as far as you can take it, even if it ends up not being very far. Life’s too short, and far too final to leave yourself wondering what you could have been if you hadn’t given in to fear. You can always get a gay office job later in life. That kind of path is much more forgiving than professional atheletics
I trained MT seriously for 5 years while working full a job full time. You can definitely get good and compete in that amount of time if you’re serious enough. If there is one thing I regret or would have done differently is taking care of my body. Mostly in recovery like eating healthy even when not cutting weight and getting enough hours of sleep. Just enjoy the journey and wherever it takes you. Most never become pro and few make a living doing it but doesn’t mean it’s not worth trying. Buy the ticket,enjoy the ride

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Amateur Engineer Edition:

> What good bike can I get for under $500?
a stolen bike. Possibly a newer used entry level hardtail but don't expect it to survive rock gardens, jumps, or drops. Or an older mtb which won't be as good as newer ones and will still have a front derailleur, but it'll be good enough.
> What good bike can I get for under $1000
Used hardtail
> What good bike can I get for under $2000?
New Hardtail
> What good bike can I get for under $3000?
Used full suspension
> What are the excellent value brands?
Marin, Commencal, Canyon, Polygon, YT, Propain, Kona, and many more. Sometimes the expensive brands have an excellent value bike
This is a handy guide. Not comprehensive but a good guide for american riders. Europeans and Asians have access to other brands.

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Bay Area Bros, I went back to Skeggs this weekend and these fucking climbs. I checked Strava after and literally every climb I did is a category 4.
The downhills I rode were Resolution, Manzanita, and Steam Donkey. Resolution is rougher than I remember, most of it is a rock garden but since the trail is sandstone, the rocks are round instead of jagged. That doesn't mean it's easy, the rocks still stick out a lot and there are big loose rocks on it, so if you do eat shit on it, you're just going to get a lot of blunt force trauma instead of getting torn open. Resolution is the same but the rock outcroppings are shorter and you can take easier lines when shit gets real. I'm surprised we're even allowed to hike and ride on these trails, feels like it would get eroded faster but Skeggs and these particular trails are unpopular compared to other parks due to the climbs being so brutal and the park rangers strictly enforcing the no e-bike rule.
>Resolution is the same
meant Manzanita.
>be resting before riding Manzanita
>some kid on an entry level hardtail rides up
>seems to be sizing me up checking me and my bike out
>probably thought i was a typical boomer on a dentist bike
>I'm gearing up to hit the trail
>he sees this and hurries to get ahead of me
>I decide to give him a minute
>catch him anyways and he doesnt let me pass
>have to climb back up the shitty fire road just so I can get a clean lapt
went on my second ride and did all the log rolls and small drops
roasties gonna coast
coasties gonna roast
many such cases

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/HEMA/ General - 16th Century Waifu Edition

>What is HEMA?
HEMA stands for Historical European Martial Arts, sometimes also called Historical Fencing.
It's reconstructing how to fight with swords, daggers, polearms and other weapons based on old European fighting treatises

>What does it look like?
Inside the World of Longsword Fighting - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zueF4Mu2uM
Back to the source - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DBmNVHTmNs
Martin Fabian Sparring - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8QlbKfX84k

>Where can I find these treatises?

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>root out all the secret nazis who were using HEMA to train for their imminent racial insurrection which for some reason will be fought with swords

But the Armageddon WILL be fought with swords, both the Bible and the Qur'an agrees. Swords, cavalrymen, and bows.
Looking to pick up hema in the next month or so. I've fiddled with sparring with polypropylene swords with shitty balance, but am looking to upgrade to synthetic sparring swords. With the polypropylene, I've used a saber, katana, and a bastard sword. The saber was the most fun between those. So now I am trying to pick between a saber or longsword. I will just be sparring with my fiancee who has done some rapier in the past, and also has a 40" blade steel rapier, and will probably be getting either a synthetic bastard sword or a synthetic rapier. Is there any strong reason to pick one or the other, or should I just flip a coin / personal preference?
Saber is for savages. Choose the longsword
If you're joining a club, it'll first depend on what's available really.
If it's just you messing up in your backyard, well sabre is supposedly easier to understand than longsword, but longsword is easier to use. Then again, if it's just backyard foolishness, just pick what seems fun, you'll have both soon enough, stop being in denial.

>saber is for savages.
Like who? the english...? Oh wait.
Savagery = fun though

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Discuss Western Martial Arts. I.e. living non-HEMA arts with documented Western/European lineages.

Anymore to add to this list?
- Wrestling (Catch-as-Can, freestyle, Greco-Roman)
- Boxing (Bare Knuckle, amateur, professional, Savate)
- Fencing (foil, epee, saber, single stick - can this one be classed as living still?)
- Archery (target, field, clout, crossbow, flight)
- Shooting (multigun, bullseye, field, rapid, clay, running)

Add and discuss any you think fit the criteria (I.e. a living art with documented Western/European lineage).

Modern hybrid arts with mixed Eastern-Western lineges like Kickboxing, Submission Grappling; or historic reconstructed arts like HEMA are great but not what this thread is for.
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>Shoulder to the jaw
I hate to be a skeptic, but it looks like it was more about the hit location than the technique employed. Red pants Retsu seemed to have hit blue pants Retsu on the chest/shoulder area.
Then again, any type of move that knocks you on your back could be considered deadly thanks to the chance of your skull bouncing on the pavement.
>The fact it's not a wide used technique in pressure-tested combat sports suggests one on one with limited space it isn't a great move..
The typical American idiocy.

Just let yourself get checked with the shoulder in wrestling bro. Just do it. Tell us how it went after you wake up.
Emphasis on 'let'. You think the other guy is just going to stand awestruck and let you do it? How many punches to the head will you take on your way in? Will you be able to follow through after your legs turn to jelly after getting rocked?
Eh,I'd say it depends on the size of the clubs in question. If we're looking at weapons that are more like an Arnis or Escrima sticks than baseball bats, then countering a "slashing" strike with a beat parry and then thrusting to the face could be construed as an effective application of epee' or sabre technique to that weapon.
I think they where talking about a collapsed baton
So I don't know how good they will be for thrusting

Not sure if this is supposed to go on /xs/ or /sp/, but what do you think of the sport? All I see on here is HEMA.

I'm trying to get into it and I'm looking to pick up some gear. I probably want to fence Epee. Any recommendations? The club has gear, but a lot of it is gross and sometimes not working, especially for left handed stuff.
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>What is your budget? Where are you located? I coach a local club and help people pick it out all the time.
OP here, I'm at a college in the midwest and there's a fencing club. There are a few fencers that seem very good, but it's hard for me to judge given that I don't really know I'm doing.
The club members obviously showed me the basics, but they sort of have their own thing going on. Are there any good online resources? Books or videos? I assume that, at some point, it would be worthwhile to get private lessons? Do you have any general tips for someone just starting out? Bad habits that I should avoid forming early?

As far as budget for gear, anything goes as long as it's not outrageously expensive. I'd rather spend the money upfront to get something of decent quality. For now though, at least until I have a better sense of what I want, I'll just plan on using the club's gear.
Online resources are limited to the r/fencing subreddit (the wiki isn't too bad for basic info and links) and yt channels.

Some yt channels:
https://www.youtube.com/user/CyrusofChaos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg-YsbVp_L7TnuyMwz5nBmA https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaRxWBNb8YwJUdVfwINAv2A https://www.youtube.com/c/FencersEdge/videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0cYbI_OZLy4HfRnDFC55kQ https://www.youtube.com/user/DvGoT
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdp-Bm6q-7uY8mKNporFuUg https://www.youtube.com/user/RenegadePizza
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmtALz8yYLoSIy6LkXs-h0w https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPwFBzTAte5xufVaPXmtjqA
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYp5sbfQbjZkvNt0o3lZ6hQ https://www.youtube.com/user/PresidentOfChina
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCT4FI5gT5_uXuUdWZ_M8MQ https://www.youtube.com/user/sydneysabrecentre

Private lessons, try and get a club membership that includes unlimited open fencing alongside the lessons. You NEED to constantly be fencing new people to improve, drills are just a small part.
Bad habits to avoid;
-Using too-large grips. I'm a size 9ish glove and use a small Leon Paul grip (which is slightly smaller than regular Visconti smalls!)
-Not drinking enough! I drink 2+ liters at a tournament, and you should too. So many physical and mental focus issues in fencing are alleviated by being hydrated.
-Not asking for clarification for ref calls you don't understand or disagree with. You should never be confused by a ref's call; if they're getting it 'wrong' then figure out how THEY see the action's priority and change your fencing accordingly for that particular referee—don't 'fight' it.

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Fencing gear is not too bad to navigate purchasing.

For epee, the cheapest full set to get is the AF one: https://www.absolutefencinggear.com/deluxe-8-piece-electric-epee-set.html
Good quality, stretchy, NO cotton, glove has proper sizing (7.5, 8, etc), up-to-date mask strap system, easy returns, sizing is spot-on if you follow the guides properly. With some socks and maybe a 6mm wrench thrown in that's about $400 for a complete set. Using proper care, the uniform will last forever. I would strongly recommend getting a pistol grip. French grip epeeists are weirdos. Downsides for this set are;
-It's all Chinese made, if you care about that sort of stuff.
-The blade is absolutely garbage and will break within a month, probably.
-Non-FIE rated equipment. You shouldn't care about this point though, it is irrelevant for a new fencer.

The next step up is PBT, Hungarian. https://shop.pbtfencing.com
An equivalent kit from them is about $620 after shipping. That gets you a FIE blade, FIE whites, FIE mask. A super good deal for entry level FIE, non-Chinese equipment. If you want your name print on the mask/whites, it's cheaper than most other stores too. Just avoid their Balaton line, go for the superlight or stretchfit series of whites.

After that, you're looking at the Leon Paul Team Kit. ~$900 to the states. The GBP is terrible right now against the dollar so I would recommend this outright if you have the dosh.
-LP x-change mask is THE most comfortable mask you can get. This is a fact.
-LP sockets are 1000% better than other sockets.

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Thanks anons
oh and make sure to get USA Fencing membership; most clubs require it.

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Yokozuna edition

Old thread >>104384

Next basho: September 11 - September 25

Current Makuuchi banzuke: https://sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoBanzuke/index/
Current Juryo banzuke: https://sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoBanzuke/index/

Info on Sumo - Sumopedia: https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/tv/sumo/sumopedia/
Official Sumo site: https://sumo.or.jp/En/
Sumo database: http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Default.aspx
Last basho highlights: https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/tv/sumo/highlights/

We'll move to /sp/ for the basho thread when it starts.
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Another poster already pointed out the stupidity of using Hakuho's record at that point in time for comparison but you're missing the point that KNW isn't really that much different than whoever you think are undeserving shitters of the komusubi spot (except Tobizaru, who I agree just stroke hot at the right time) I do think he was unlucky and he'll get sanyaku eventually but if you defend him losing to random shitters by pointing to these records I don't know why you couldn't also apply that to Hoshoryu or Kiribayama.
>pointing to these records I don't know why you couldn't also apply that to Hoshoryu or Kiribayama
That is my point. Forecasting future successes based on records in this way isn't much different from reading oracle bones. None of them are more or less likely to succeed by having won or lost against particular opponents, or when at a certain position on the banzuke.
>they're not quiiiite ready for the top division
Are you taking about MAEGASHIRA 3, the future YOKOZUNA, KOTOSHOHO?!
Hey, don't talk shit about Takamisakari!

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