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If it's called "Camel" why does it have a dromedary on the package?
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>>4750198
>Anyways egyptian tobacco was only ever a tax dodging greek affair
Wait I made that shit up is that actually true?
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>>4747925
Contrarianism without wisdom leads to retarded decisions like smoking cigarettes. They're disgusting no matter the brand.
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>>4750198
> although it causes psychosis in ashkenazim so dont let your jewish or inbred friends touch weed
ashkenazim already have loads of mental health issues so it’s not like it’s gonna help much
>>4750267
true
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>>4750262
Yes. Smoking tobacco is native to the americas. It was imported by the spanish into europe and most of it was grown by the turks. Taxes were too high so a bunch of greeks moved tobacco farms to egypt.

The brand wasn't camels tho.
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>>4747925
Dromedary camels are still camels, you fucking nit. Why do people say this? Why is this a thing? Nobody says this for Bactrian camels. Why dromedaries?

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even dinosaurs are becoming trans
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>>4752236
>The fossil evidence points to feathers being basal to all of ornithodira.
The public doesn't buy or read college textbooks, so you miss out on most of the good science.

>The genetic potential to was lost due to the increasing complexity of feathers.
Interesting idea. Why would you expect scales are easier to evolve in places where feathers weren't as derived?
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>>4751198
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>>4752206
Why are tranny memes always some variant of "this media character or thing you like is now gay"
Is it some kind of self-affirmation thing? Don't xhey get enough of that already?
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>>4752236
>The genetic potential to was lost
Fascinating, except for the tiny detail that birds still have scales, you massive retard.
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>>4752276
>except for the tiny detail that birds still have scales, you massive retard.
we're discussing complete loss of feathers and replacement with scales over the whole body.

his thought was actually interesting since the places where birds have replaced feathers with scales have less "developed" feathers on them.

Meaning his idea that less developed feathers might be easier to replace with scales could have merit. Or that feathers would have been easier to replace earlier in their evolution.

I am curious if he can propose a mechanism for why that might be.

I disagree with the anon, but he certainly isn't a retard. Not in that comment anyways.

Although sabretoothed canines must still have been effective for prey capture and processing by hypercarnivorous predators, canine morphology in these extinct carnivores was likely to have been driven to a greater extent by sexual selection than in non-sabretooths
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>>4749058
Yes, and so are you, and everyone in the homo sapiens lineage
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>>4749058
Yes actually we did evolve to sustain ourselves by harvesting inferior lifeforms
https://www.nature.com/scitable/knowledge/library/evidence-for-meat-eating-by-early-humans-103874273/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8881926/
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>>4750598
>we were scavengers
kinda embarrassing but at least we got some cool acid
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>>4750622
More like "we killed more than we could eat so we adopted ways to consume old meat that we kept around for a long time."
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>>4748708
>kill yourselves n-ACK!

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Pigeons are cute and beautiful and I love !
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>>4751720
> pigeons are smart
You clearly never seen a pigeon. Retarded birds always make a nest at the same place. I destroy it and openly show my hostility. They make it again and lay eggs there. I destroy their eggs. They make some disgusting sounds and leave. After one month they come again and do same stupid shit.
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>>4751904
>animals that don’t submit to my will are stupid
They’d rather die in their boots than take it on their knees. BASED PIGEONS.
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>>4751904
Pigeons are domesticated, retard. It's like asking those small toy dogs to live in the wilderness and survive. They've been made to rely on us, pigeons are the same. Their nests are shit because they rely on us. We just forgot about them. They're not wild, they're feral. Still smart.
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>>4751718
No. Bad anon.
>>4751720
What were pigeons domesticated for?
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>>4751904
thats because their qualifications for a nest is "does the egg roll? no? then its a nest"

i just got this cat what the fuck do i call her?
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>>4751717
>pay 50-150 usd for someone to tell you it's a mongrel
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>>4751082
Follow through with 4chan tradition. Here are your options.

Onion
Serval The Grey
Potato
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>>4751607
>>4751734
Take it easy my guy, this is just a nice little place to talk about animals.
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>>4751082
I don’t know retard figure it out
>>4751092
HWABBFT
He Will Always Be Based For This
>>4751557
Lol
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>>4751816
mongrel is not a negative word it just implies its of an unknown breed. ive only ever had mongrels, strays, rescues, etc until last week

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Pit Viper Edition

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This thread is dedicated to all animals of the reptilia and amphibia classes. Topics include, but are not limited to: geckos, snakes of all kinds, frogs, salamanders, newts, turtles, tortoises, and much more. Before asking a question, do a search on the internet to see if it has been answered
Classifieds for finding breeders and products:
>morphmarket.com
>kingsnake.com
>faunaclassifieds.com
>reptilescanada.com (Canadian breeders)
>caudata.org
Most forums will have a "for sale" section on them, so look for that, especially if you have a specific herp you want. Craigslist can also be a good source for cheap aquariums, and make sure to check for any reptile expos that occur in your area.

When asking a question, make sure to include these details:
>Type and size of animal

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>>4751519
I can't help but feel like an ophiophagous snake is a great pet idea, because at some point you're really going to WANT to feed them snakes. maybe if you can find someone who can supply you with culls.
Ratsnakes on the other hand are notoriously active and prey generalists, and come in a variety of localities and colors.
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>>4751519
Funny, I'm also considering getting a snake that's either more present in some way (like a more active colubrid) or able to chill around (small python) after having a hognose for a number of years.
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>>4751990
>python
I had both pythons and boas. I recommend the latter- they have more of a 'personality' as much as a reptile can have
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this one was much more chill than previous but had problems with feeding
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Bought a beardy. Think she's a girl. Pretty chill. I hope I can stay good to her.

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Post bugs if ya like bugs.

Just a little update on that terrarium I made for an isopod that was trying to yeet itself into my sink-it's going pretty well.

I added some stuff, got a low level heat bulb for the light system so that the tank isn't freezing ass cold at night while I'm at work, and I got myself a hissing cockroach. He's pretty cool; named him Prince because he acts like a little spoiled princess.

The isopod population basically exploded in the tank and went from about six or seven that i added in myself, to easily over forty now, which is pretty cool. I got some springtails when I picked up the roach, so those are in there as well, and I plan on getting some worms.

It's a fun little ecosystem and it's been keeping me on the straight a bit better. I've been eating healthier because I feed the scraps to the hisser, and i don't want to feed him anything that could hurt him, so fresh foods are in my fridge now. Also been keeping a more consistent schedule because I have to manually turn the lights on for them and give the tank a good misting.
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>>4750473
Not that anon, but that's good to know
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>>4742212
kinda too late for my advice but its better not to cut this foam- you end up with a closed cell foam so you don;t have to water proof it, so you can use cheap caulking to attach the substrate
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i need to get out of my rut and make a vivarium.... miss having actual pets
any recommendation on a roach colony other than dubia? i've heard those need heating
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>>4750473
hissers can climb smooth surfaceS?
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>>4735167
elusive footage of 1 of 2 American Giant Millipedes i stole from the park
turns out if you just dig around a bit in the leaf litter after it rains they are everywhere
she (i think) came out for 5 minutes to chew on some broccoli and then burrowed back underground

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>>4752072
one day that trees gonna snap and he’s gonna get an ass full of quills
also what kind of zoo houses primates and porcupines in the same enclosure? third world ones?
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>>4752171
Possums eat ticks so they are good.
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>>4751534
never seen a pattern like that before, and the fur looks incredibly soft, too
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>>4751534
I need this cat to fuck its parents and siblings ASAP until we can get like 5000 of these
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>>4750115
Rats spread the bubonic plague across Europe, killing 50% of its population, so if anything rats are underestimated.
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>>4750128
Most threatening animals are near the bottom, hmm. hmmm
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I think I'd draw against a cobra. I wouldn't be able to avoid its bite but I think I'd be able to cave in it's skull before I succumbed to the venom.
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>>4750083
Realistically, you could train an elephant to kill another elephant. Nothing says this is a 1v1 octagon match, it could be an 'unarmed' thunderdome match.
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>>4751978
A man who lifts 800lb could swing an 80lb chimp into the floor like a sledgehammer and break all its bones, or just grab anything in reach and tear it off.

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what's your favorite thing about wolves?
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You will never rub a wolf belly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTh36lwIJF0
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>>4724397
Damn it, Moon Moon!
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>>4725107
Not really. It’s the painted ones that have 115 special attack.
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>>4737026
Too scary for normalfags

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Beerus Edition (RIP Toriyama)
Yes, that is my cat's name, and yes, that is a 4-star Dragonball on his collar
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>>4751803
This behavior is entirely unrelated to the quality of the food or any behaviors of "taste" you feel like projecting onto your pet.
Most carnivores dislike it when their food tastes different the next meal and dislike lower moisture food sources because of their association with meat that is undergoing decay. It's an automatic biological sign to stop scavenging a corpse and move on because it's getting harder to digest, is picking up a greater bacterial load their tiny body might not handle well, and is probably going to be found by other animals.

Your cat is not actually aware you are changing food brands.

There is also nothing wrong with feeding your cat kibble if they drink enough water, or if you add water to it.
>inb4 but studies show on average
if *your* cat drinks enough water.
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>>4751620
you want to preserve his genes by mixing them with shit? breed with a known female who also shows desirable characteristics.

also, feral cats are an ethics and animal welfare disaster and shouldn't exist. trap neuter adopt.
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Bros, my cat keeps breaking into the pantry and then stealing and breaking into items like protein powder, oats, noodles, etc. Fucking drags that shit all over the house. He’s always liked to carry toys around but I’m worried since this behavior of breaking into and carrying human food is new. Could this be a sign of nutrient deficiency or an illness that I should get checked out?
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only have the one cat, how can I make her life less boring without another kitty?
I play with her often enough and let her out onto the balcony and open windows for her, what else can I do?
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>>4752252
Cat trees and lots of them, cats love climbing and you'll also create vertical space for her to explore. But you should really get her a friend as soon as you're able.

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What's the best pet for a nihilist?
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>>4750413
Naw mate, fire is alive, a self sufficient, self replicating robot would be alive, aliens would be alive. You're just making shit up.
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>>4750413
Sperm are classed as cells anon...
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>>4746975
Get a slime mold. Its not a plant or an animal but something weird in between. Its intelligent and stupid at the same time which makes it fun to watch. Also my cats like the way it smells.
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>>4750999
But they can't reproduce without a different "species" of cell, therefore they aren't considered live creatures
>>4750969
All I'm saying is that the term "alive" is nonsensical, you can claim fire has a lot things in common with the taxological family of life, and you'll be correct, but fire isn't a live creature either
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>>4747355
3: we have no fucking clue
i pick 3

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I've started a new romantic relationship and recently she's met my dog for the first time beyond passing on a date to cook together. Obviously, my dog is well trained, well behaved, and my home is kept spotless in spite of the 4 legged beast, because I feel anything less is tantamount to neglect.
The girlfriend had a normal reaction to a lovable canine at first, but when my dog showed common signs of happiness and love with tail wagging, eagerness to please, and gentle headbutting/nuzzling she got weirded out. While this is a little bit more happiness in response to a stranger than normal- almost certainly from the dog picking up on my own positive feelings towards this woman- it wasn't anything more than the way my dog reacts to my immediate family. My hound is quite tempered in her behavior compared to the energy you can find in many other breeds.
The girlfriend comes from a home with a family dog, a miniature poodle, but from her description the dog was never really "happy" or even showed signs that it even liked anyone in the family (Maybe just the grandmother.) I find it unfathomable that you could live a decade+ with a dog and never see it happy to be with you. In regards to the friendly and loving disposition of my hound towards both me and her, she brought expressive visual and verbal worry in the same way I might have if I found out a date still lived with her ex-husband.
I'm mature enough to realize that no relationship comes as a "perfect package" but I get a nagging sense that contrary to my impressions of my girlfriend so far, she'd rather me get rid of my dog; or at least, restrict my dog to a kennel/run and have a more removed relationship with the hound.
Should I just see if she'll compromise on this, or is this a major red flag of there being problems down the line?
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>>4748864
Correct

>>4748887
>>4748878
Mad women
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>>4747157
>letting a woman control your life
Give them an inch and they leave and take half your income. There is literally nothing wrong with getting a different girl.

Puppies before yuppies
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>>4750590
>>yuppies
Yuppies aren't slang for women, you esl street shitter
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>>4746394
>she does bot like your daughter
Not worth it.
You can try to talk to her about it or give it time, but, it is definitely something that should not be overlooked
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>>4750562
That's nothing compared to how they take away father's rights to see their own children

Anything spider-related. Domesticated or wild, doesn't matter.

No jumpscares.
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this ogre spider looks sad
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>>4751295
Looks like a beach bunny with her sunglasses on top of her head.
>>4751296
More shocked than sad. I suspect you yourself are in a dark place mentally. Perhaps you could cheer yourself up over here: >>>/r9k/
Both of those spider images are cute.
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>>4746025
is metallica still a fad? that thing went up and down like a rollercoaster
my fav pic rel
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>>4747412
thats a lot of webbing for a rossie
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>>4746834
from webbers i had a OBT but always wanted to get one of the tree-Ts that do the funnel webs

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why haven't shrimps developed tool usage? they seem well designed for it
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>>4751501
>their failure to then use the same tool to solve other similar problems shows a type of thought they don't have
Except they do use tools for multiple purposes. Chimps make sponges out of chewed leaves for collecting water to drink and for grooming
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>>4751815
>I said they don't create tools to deal with imagined problems. That's extremely easy to prove.
If the problem is only imagined they would not get to use the tool and we would have hard time realising it is a tool. If a chimp made a stick to chase off gumbo-gumbo ghosts in case they exist, how would you know it?
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>>4752117
in that case chimps display one example of human type tool use compared to billions of human examples. And it's not surprising since they are human ancestors.

None of you address the actual problem. There are verifiable differences between humans and all other animals, and instead of trying to explain them you decide to deny them.

>>4752139
>If a chimp made a stick to chase off gumbo-gumbo ghosts in case they exist, how would you know it?
they'd keep it with them at all times?
in case they needed it?

humans do this all the time. We have a whole kit we carry around in case we need it, and we have had for tens of thousands of years.
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>>4752139
>a stick to chase off gumbo-gumbo ghosts
I was thinking more of engineering problems, where you imagine something going wrong with a tool usage and then fix the problem before it comes up.

But you make a lovely point. Most human tools throughout our history were made to deal with problems that simply don't exist outside our own heads. Even now people regularly carry tools for problems in their heads, or real problems they will almost certainly never encounter.
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>in that case chimps display one example of human type tool use compared to billions of human examples
>There are verifiable differences between humans and all other animals
Tool use does not have to be equivalent to human technology to be considered tool use retard
>None of you address the actual problem
>instead of trying to explain them you decide to deny them
Nobody is denying the differences you moron, the problem here is that you’re assigning criteria to what defines tool use based on nothing but your personal view and will just move the goal posts to uphold that once somebody presents an example that does fit your criteria. You’ve already made up your mind on the subject and will make any excuse to uphold that, regardless of how flawed it is


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