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Welcome to /k/, 4chan's weapons board. Our board centers around weapons, armor, and other myriad military technology. While guns are the primary topic, threads involving any other sort of weapons, from swords and knives to tanks and jet fighters, come up frequently as well. If you're new, we suggest reading the sticky at http://amagicalplace.wikia.com/wiki/Sticky to get acquainted with the board's subject matter.

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/k/ is a board devoted to weapons and military equipment.

Discussions about politics or current events belong on /pol/.

Do not post threads about gun control. They belong on /pol/.

Troll threads will be deleted, and those posting troll posts will be banned.

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Does your partner ever get mad at you for buying guns? Mine only gets mad when I don't tell her. Otherwise she's okay with me dumping 5k on a fun
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No. She trusts me not to be a retard with our money and I wouldn't have married her if it was going to be an issue.
imagine actually believing this.
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>/k/ used to be the most stable and normalfag board
30 here, i dunno what to even do anymore
Mine doesn't give a shit about guns so there is no point in showing her my new ones. She does get mad when I buy cars or trucks. (10 cars, 5 trucks)

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Did you guys fall for the 9mm meme?
Why didn't your superior brain tell you that all calibers benefited from ammo advances?
Why would every real agency use .357SIG and recommend .380+P+ aka 9meme to you newfags?
Congrats on your arsenal (You) have a .22three and a half-powered 357
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5.7x28mm beat out 9mm in NATO trials. The only reason it's not the standard now is Germany freaking the fuck out that their worse cartridge lost.
Those test were largely about penetration.
And what does 5.7 beating 4.6 have to do with anything related to 9mm still being the most prolific cartridge in the world?
>their worse cartridge lost.
I mean the cartridge is over 100 years old, I don't understand why faggots who engage in caliber wars and bitch about muh fuddyfive and 9lolimeter don't take that into account. Both of them were revolutionary at the time, but ballistics science has advanced tremendously since then. The reason 5.7 wasn't adopted is because it isn't so good to justify the cost of adopting a completely new cartridge and spend countless millions of dollars replacing all the arms that use 9mm. Especially since 9mm isn't really used that much in a military context for your average infantryman.
Both those are retarded takes. The military makes a contract (getting 9mm pistols, and ammunition), then gets the lowest bidder to manufacture it.

The point behind using 9mm is the same as 5.56mm. You can carry significantly more of it than .45 or 7.62mm. Especially since FMJ handgun rounds have shit "stopping power" regardless of caliber, and are a last ditch resort tool.

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name a worse air force symbol
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I like it too, it has a lot of tradition which is rare for Sweden
all roundels look like MS paint drawings I did in the 5th grade
>no one will ever come up with a better symbol than the iron cross
>fucking brainlet retards still seethe and bitch about it becuase they don't understand that it predated the nazis
Sad feel.
weird smiley
evil smiley?
yo wtf why is germany still using nazi roundels?
That's not a Nazi roundel you stupid fuck, the Iron Cross dates back to the Middle Ages. Its history is inextricably tied to that of the German people and the German armed forces.

Is there a more kino chopper in service anywhere in the world than the terrifyingly masculine Mi-24?
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That's a pretty good idea honestly.
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One of these ugly, angry little fuckers.
Capable VDS
APR 2 and 3 torpedoes (gravity assisted, rocket propelled)
No need for into wind hover transitions
What was that one copter that was kinda like the chinook but was in the vietnam war or something?
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sea knight? 3 wheels instead of 4 and its a bit smaller than a chinook
never heard of them being shot down in syria, they normally only deploy at night with special forces to risk exposure

Will they ever ship my fucking order?
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could be worse
could be botach
fuck optics planet
made 10+ orders, literally never had a problem with them. They even honored multiple orders with a bugged coupon code for $30 off any order, and just paid shipping. If you did even 10 seconds of research prior to ordering you would know opticsplanet is a drop shipper with limited inventory and if you are buying meme tier panic shit right now you are basically ordering from the manufacturer, subject to their lead times.
I ordered a Leupold Delta Point Pro from them in July and it came in 3 days
What's going on with botach right now? I tried to order some stuff two weeks ago and it's still pending.

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I want to talk about take-down and foldable rifles. I'm really interested in a portable rifle like this and am deciding on what I should save up for.
The Keltec sub2000 gen2 seems really interesting, I'd get a 9mm one since I already have a 9mm pistol. But I don't know how much Improvement on range/power/accuracy you get from 9mm through a rifle length barrel.
Ive also thought about a .357 take down lever gun, but Lucky Gunner just made a video on .357 and .44 magun lever guns and they both just really were not good. The imrpovement on range/accuracy/power they got from a rifle length barrel just really doesn't seem worth much at all.
Chiappa made those Little Badger single shot foldable rifles, and I'd honestly really like to have the .22 magnum Little Badger, but they are sold out literally everywhere.
The Keltec SU-16 is a proper .223 semi-auto rifle that folds, it seems awesome but it certainly comes with a higher price tag.
What take downs do you guys like? What do you own?
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Every caliber that has gone I to a pistol form has had its AP ammo banned by the ATF
this. people want "justification" to play pretend for all these very rare scenarios. cringe. make gun owners look stupid.
I'm all for having a long gun innawoods.
But it being broken down in a pack means absolutely fuck all if you need food or to defend yourself with it.
>buying yet another ammo to stock for instead of buying a rifle in something I already have tons of
Realize perhaps that many people have many different situations, and may prefer other things than what you do because of those situations.
.300 blk is cheaper than .357mag or .44 mag.
If you need a long gun, you need a rifle caliber/shotgun gauge, not the same weak ass shit your pistol carries.
Fucking moron.

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/arg/ assault rifle 15 general: forbidden cartel romance edition

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>On of them security forces niggas I see
guilty, but i wised up and got out after 6. frens told me to go AF, kinda glad i did lol. not all of SF are trash... 90% junior enlisted are though.
no you do not. you do not have to do anything
Do I get the Aimpoint Pro with Vortex 3x or cheap out and get a $200 rds or fuck it and get the T-2
you sound poor. pro.
Good morning, /arg/ !
ya lousy bums

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Read a fucking book. Hell, even read just the wikipedia article about French Indochina. Fucking midwit dumbass.
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Friendly reminder the French are scumbags and should be boycotted at all points. Anyone who likes them (faggot Ian and Karl) need to be removed from the community.

>france losing in Indo china
>help us America!
>then we'll drop out of nato and soviet align!
>hold their bag of shit
>they leave
>then drop out of nato
>then demand dollars for gold
>getting the us on Fiat currency
>fucking us up even more

With 'allies' like france who needs enemies?
France was based, but yes, modern france is a shithole, fuck em.
Don't forget that after the British and America lost countless lives liberating their shithole country in WWII, de Gaulle had the audacity to kick us all out of the country and take credit for liberating France himself.

Then there was that time that they sold anti-ship missiles to an avowed enemy of a NATO ally (Argentina), while also allowing their missile techs to continue performing maintenance and calibration on said missiles during the Falklands War.

Then there was that time they stabbed the Arabs in the back and divided up the Middle East as it pleased them, then had the nerve to blame the United States for instability in the region.

Then of course who could forget about how frogs and their government constantly accuses the United States of being a systematically racist country that should pay reparations to the negros, yet when Haiti asked them for reparations they said no and asked us to embargo Haiti until they quit asking.

French really are the absolute fucking cunts of Europe. Worthless people, worthless nation.

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Does shooting targets from 3 feet away make someone a tier 1 special operator proud boy?
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That targets more like 3-5 yards.
But you gotta start the newbies off somewhere.
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>fake knife
>fake pistol
For a basic ar training at closer ranges makes more sense. Maybe not that close, but not like 200 yards away. If you've just got irons and an unmagnified sight, training at long range would be a waste of time. If you're going for range, you'd be better off with more or less static training with a proper scope and what not.
As well as the fact that most domestic engagements would happen at closer ranges.
Are you a noguns?
For ARs, up close needs more training than 15-100yds, because close range you have a POA/POI difference, and you need to drill it enough to unconsciously know your hold overs.
The interesting thing about this, is that it's life imitating art. All these kids have to go by in regards to combat is Call of Duty knowledge, so they engage the enemy that way (up close and personal). Kinda like how everyone now thinks about double leg takedowns and submissions in street fights now that MMA became widespread. Though I agree with Kyles actions and love that he killed two degenerates and permanently maimed a third, he did get lucky and really showed exactly WHY you don't want to run around COD style. At any point in time anyone of those strikes could have been a KO blow or he could have been disarmed or shot in the back as he fled. A rifles main advantage is it's ability to kill at a distance and he'd have been better served using it that way. Sure close quarters combat CAN happen and you SHOULD train for it but if you're training for an actual civil war shtf boogaloo scenario and the majority of your training consists clearing your house and mag dumping at paper targets a few feet away you will be picked off by a guy using iron sights on his AR at 200 yards +. Actual real combat is two groups of armed men blasting at each other with rifle rounds the moment they become aware of each other which is usually anywhere from 100 to 300 yards depending on the landscape.

What’s the most aesthetic lever gun and why is it the 1894?
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>tube fed bolt-action
y tho
You dont want all the negatives of a lever action with all the negatives of a bolt action?
you could do it with a spring loaded lifting arm, but it might want to fling the next round out of the gun right behind the ejected empty. Running the lifting arm through the action of the bolt, using your hand like you do a lever action, might take some crazy german space magic, or maybe you could run a simple lever along the side that's actuated by the locking lug sliding through the channel it normally goes through.
What I mean is, tube fed, you'd still have to use flat or round board bullets, rather than spire/Spitzer points.
yes, I understand that. There's a part in a lever action that holds the on-deck round in the tube, and working the action moves it into position for it to cradle the round as it pops out of the tube, and lifts it into position for the now-closing bolt to push it into the chamber. Your gun will need that part, just trying to figure out how to run it.

M16A2 is more aesthetic than M16A1. Change my mind. Pro tip: you can’t.
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Don't hoot at me or my son ever again
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First, the XM148, second, the M16A1/CAR15 had the M203 before the M16A2 did.
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Better one coming up.
They are pretty good, everything I've ordered from them has been well built using quality parts. This is the cheapest "mil-spec" A2 upper you'll find, anything cheaper and it'll likely have a HBAR 1/9 barrel, or one that's not chrome lined, anything more expensive isn't worth it. As for the lower, get a PSA Rifle lower or a Aero Rifle lower. Similar price range, Aero will probably be a bit nicer in fit+finish.
I don't really buy it for it's collecting aspect but sure why not

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I just went hunting for the first time and took down a squirrel with a 177. caliber airgun. I tagged it in the head but now I have no clue how to prepare it or tan it's fur, anyone have any tips?
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Kek, guess it happens.
I'm not that anon, I want to do that too.
Wew that just gave me flashback to childhood, my great grandpa did this but we used Brown gravy he made using Turkey drippings on thanksgiving.
>What's the best use of squirrel?
Is there any reason I shouldn’t take my scorpion with iron sights squirrel hunting? I don’t have a more suitable gun

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What does /k/ think of ASW centric destroyers!
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That thing has Tor, Kalibr, Uran besides the ASW gear. Looks like a fairly general purpose ship.
In Western doctrine, Destroyers are anti air primarily.
Frigates are ASW.
Best thing for ASW? An MPA.
at least on paper, the cruiser is meant for AA in a carrier group
2 destroyers are used for ASW

although cruisers and destroyers have their capabilities blurred today, destroyers definitely were made with ASW in mind

theres also an attack sub in the group, so the destroyer and subs work in tandem to hunt enemy subs
Short range AA almost CIWS level.
Kalibr mostly for 91R1 ASROC.
Uran is small surface defense.

Carry big 650mm torpedoes! Nuclear depth charge! Paket small torpedoes! New A-190-1 gun for mini depth charge munitions! New munitions for RBU-6000 antisub rockets including guided saturation depth charges! New towed sonar! Also one of few ships to carry upgraded Shkval-2 torpedoes!
This east/west doctrinal designation is a technicality, The new Type 26 ASW frigates that the Brits are building are 7000 tons, the same displacement as a Russian Udaloy destroyer. Both are well into cruiser weights by ww2 standards

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