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>You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.' But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.If you literally follow this you won't last long in this world. So how tf has the Church lasted 2000 years?
>>22554584It’s a quote of Matthew 5:38-42 which cites Leviticus 24:20, and the verse from Leviticus advocates for ‘eye for an eye’ as a form of justice, you semi-literate sophist.
>>22555408>reluctance to execute anyone>they could just recantIt is meaningless how the emperor "felt" which assumes a letter is his internal feelings and not political calculus. You do understand that if they were truly reluctant they wouldn't have had any executions right? You use the word reluctant incorrectly but not execution and thus the seeming correctness masking the inner contradiction that beleagers anyone who goes against the Catholic Church.
>>22554559>If you literally follow this you won't last long in this world.Yes you will in fact you will last a lot longer than the fellow who is always in fights. You are not wise.
>>22557689retard life itself is a fight to stay alive. if you do not fight you will not survive.
>>22557700Thank you for your thoughts child. Quite wrong of course but you are probably aware of that, even in your currently self debased condition.
>>22557619I already said it, you still could be happy
>>22557644And also views on trannies souring considerably from somewhat sympathetic marginal weirdoes(yeah its kind of gross i mean but their earnest enthusiasm for nerd stuff like computers shitty chiptune music is kind of endearing) to an imdistinct and shrieking mass of bots clamoring for more FEDGOVYour children! Give us access to your children!>screeches in furry AVI ACAB AMAB BLM blue wave emoji pronouns land acknowledgement public teachers union membership (you know how hard is it to fire public employees?)link to onlyfans and laundry list of mental illnesses in bio
>>22557557I was an edgelord industrial nazi MDE jim goad boyd rice My posting carreeer faggot before it was cool but now im thinking about following steve albini hassan piker gigachad's example checking my white privilege and becoming a progressive maybe an academic a democrat party strategist, an educational bureaucrat, maybe work at an NGO, if anything else fails, i can start a breadtube channel, even a subhuman zero IQ moron can do that. im renouncing my nazi ways and becoming a prog, not for any gay altruistic reasons but because thats the optimum way to be debased and inflict the maximum possible amount of hardcore mkultra buckbreaking trauma based mind control on the weak and unsuspecting . All the while monopolizing the moral high ground and killing off any chance for 'proletarian solidarity'(the gayest most idiotic thought imaginable, why even pretend to be 'post left' and argue with trannies on twitter if you can get to buckbreak the trannies yourself, i mean they are already pretty buckbroken but one always has to make sure) . I get off to the thought of reducing human beings to nigger cattle, destroying any semblance of an independent personality so they can be rebuilt in the image of the cult. Being a leftist grifter must be fun much like back in the 70s you have a mindless throng of followers you can fuck or else pimp out to strangers for extra $$$. Instead of hippie chicks its now softboys and trannies.
>>22557529I hate Moldbug but I will always respecting him for not transitioning. He has all the signs: programmer, long hair, extremist, gynephile. If he was starting now, he would have been a transbian.
post your IQ, get a book recommendation
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Forrest Gump
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>>22557715The Bibble>>22557726The Bibble>>22557731The Bibble>>22557736The Bibble
What's your favourite opening paragraph?
>>22549383>umlauts look cool, I'll add some of those to my names>oh yeah! now we cool af bro
>Time in its irresistible and ceaseless flow carries along on its flood all created things, and drowns them in the depths of obscurity, no matter if they be quite unworthy of mention, or most noteworthy and important, and thus, as the tragedian says, "he brings from the darkness all things to the birth, and all things born envelops in the night."I like this translation a bit better than the other one
>>22549204>All happy families are alike; each unhappy family is unhappy in its own way. Everything was in confusion in the Oblonskys' house.The goat.
>>22549383Came here to post this. Truth Shines, brother.
>>22549383cringe
The "sailor's dream" editionPrevious: >>22544782/wg/ AUTHORS & FLASH FICTION: https://pastebin.com/ruwQj7xQRESOURCES & RECOMMENDATIONS: https://pastebin.com/nFxdiQvCPlease limit excerpts to one post.Give advice as much as you receive it to the best of your ability.Follow prompts made below and discuss written works for practice; contribute and you shall receive.If you have not performed a cursory proofread, do not expect to be treated kindly. Edit your work for spelling and grammar before posting.Violent shills, relentless shill-spammers, and grounds keeping prose, should be ignored and reported.Simple guides on writing:>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHdzv1NfZRMComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
I rewrote and updated a little
How does it read?>>22557517I liked how it ended originally and its original structure. One big paragraph for the scene and then the one-liner punchline apart.
In shadows' veil, I court a somber bride,A mistress Death, in whom I do confide,For she, a solace to my heart's dismay,Whispers of rest when love has slipped away.Her icy touch, a balm to wounds so deep,In dreams, her presence lulls me into sleep,Yet 'tis not death herself that I adore,But escape from torment I implore.For when my love, like Juliet, took her flight,My heart, entangled in the depths of night,Did yearn for slumber, sweet oblivion's grace,To free me from this love-estranged embrace.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>22557643>Bud Light stopped reading here
I'm not losing retention yaaaaaay
Have there ever been any Catholic idealists, or is christian idealism mostly a prot thing?
>>22557497I don’t know that’s why I’m asking here.
>>22557510I mean the prot thing
>>22557521Berkeley Collier LotzeHegelMary Baker Eddy Just off the top of my head, Anecdotally, about half the christians I knew in uni were idealists.
>>22557461I've seen the word idealism denote the most varied positions, sometimes the same doctrine being called idealist or anti-idealist. I've seen the following called or calling themselves idealists: Augustine, Ficino, Descartes, Malebranche, Maine de Biran, Bolzano (I've also seen him described as antiidealist), Gentile, Bergson, Le Senne, Lavelle, Teilhard de Chardin, etc. Insofar as idealism is defined in contrast to an Aristotelian realism it's mostly Thomism that is the non-idealist philosophical movement frequent among Catholics.
>>22557461Schlegel?
/lit/bros, do you ever feel alone irl because you cant talk about the stuff you read with anyone? I am from a third world country, average IQ levels here are legit bordering on retardation, and left wingness is strong (LATAM)Any serious subject is viewed as pretentiousness, and often they are indeed mentioned with pretense in mind, which creates a culture where serious book talk is something to be mocked as uptight and arrogant (as DFW said was common already in 2000s America in his interviews) and at the same the book is a fetish object to signify wisdom, but to the point that the population reads so little that any book whatsoever, even the stupidest self help slop, grants someone the image of intelectual for the majority of people around them, and people mistake fancy words for deep thoughtIn educated circles, what dominates is Marxist thought and derivatives. Every single bookish person you find is left leaning, and even if they are knowleadgeable in other fields, they are commie parrots when it comes to politics, and they are always super invested in that, revolution, opression etcIts frustratingThats a bit of my experience, I want to know yours
>>22545320>/lit/bros, do you ever feel alone irl because you cant talk about the stuff you read with anyone?Everyone I talk to about reading books lies about having read them and it is very obvious, what's fascinating is the automatic implication is they don't even realise I am not lying because in their world everybody lies and no one reads.
>>22554641Catholic place names are absolutely eloquent and ageless, you should treasure your Catholic heritage not denigrate it..
>>22545320IS THAT GIAPETTO!?
>>22546797I find it helps that I still watch sports. You can talk about sports with damn near anyone. The /lit/ is for me, sport talk for everyone else.Though being a Bears is eternal suffering that not even Ligotti could endure.
>>22545320>do you ever feel alone irl because you cant talk about the stuff you read with anyone?I feel alone irl because I cant talk about anything with anyone. Ive been friendless for 3 years now...
I considered posting this to /lgbt/ instead but I think this is the correct board? Anyway, do you know any good twink x twink romance novels?Other books with or about twinks would be appreciated too.
just go into any bookstore and look at new releases it's literally all gay shit bro, just pick up whatever appeals to you because idk what constitutes a 'twink' gay book and a 'non-twink' gay book it's simply all gay to me
>>22556160Came here to post this
>>22555348faggotism ? the book you want is Aristoteles Ethics
>>22556871>MishimaFaggotism should an hero aside from that not seeing the relevance
>>22555348The correct board to ask is >>>/diy/Ask them what to do with pic related. Had you said man x twink you might have passed as a sane man having a coomer moment while in a very dark phase of his life, but double twink is exclusively for fujos, a form of life lower than journalists.
This explains modern Nietzscheans so well.>The pupil takes the same delight in subordinating every thing to the new terminology as a girl who has just learned botany in seeing a new earth and new seasons thereby. It will happen for a time that the pupil will find his intellectual power has grown by the study of his master’s mind. But in all unbalanced minds the classification is idolized, passes for the end and not for a speedily exhaustible means, so that the walls of the system blend to their eye in the remote horizon with the walls of the universe; the luminaries of heaven seem to them hung on the arch their master built.
I wish I was never born.My body is am endless chore, which I must address through being embedded within a society of which I hate, in which all manner of authorities and oppressions bear down on me.And for what? For the chance to strive after an ephemeral taste of happiness only to have it slip as soon as its grasped? And in the context of a temporal body, aging through time, steamrolling towards an inevitable confrontation with my own mortality which renders the whole ordeal meaningless? And at constant risk of contingent harm - the everyday sickness and injury and accidents and diseases that lurk behind every movement.It is a hellish state with no recourse - not even suicide. To inflict violence upon oneself in order to render one's body inert, as if to approximate the pre-birth ocean of disembodiment, would be nothing but a cruel facsimile - death doesn't erase embodiment, it is merely embodied violence. For all to see and deal with.My mother will fucking pay for this crime. Plata o plumo.
>>22554985Lol that guy seems like an autistic retard dreaming of some heroin state future where he permanently has that retard grin on his face HAHAHAHAH
it's a dog eat dog worldsurvive or diepussies normally die
>>22557563*Doggy dog world
Dissolving Antinatalism.For the past several years I've found myself taken in by antinatalist ideology. It seems so simple and logical - the human race should go extinct in order to prevent human suffering. I even considered getting into activism to try and push this idea. But thinking through it a lot more carefully, I have come to the conclusion that it's simply not my problem. The world's suffering is not my responsibility. I didn't cause it. I am not to blame for it. So why should it be on me to fix it? I am a bystander on the world's suffering and have no obligation to prevent or alleviate it.I still will not have children, because then it really would be *my* problem. Not just for selfish reasons (I now would have a child to look after) but because I would be responsible for producing the condition on which suffering is predicated (human embodiment). But other people's suffering? The suffering of other peoples children? And all the other "problems" of suffering that antinatalists seem to push (veganism, wild animal suffering, sentient AI antinatalism)? How is any of this my or your responsibility? They are only a problem if you make them *your* problem by assuming reaponsibility towards it. Just as much as you owe me nothing and not obligated at all to relieve or prevent my suffering, it is the same from me to you. Or your potential children. Our obligations and responsibility towards others is self-imposed. What is our problem is our personal suffering, which has its source in our individual parents decisions to have us (whose motivations were just as individual). But our personal suffering will end when we die, and the conditions for it arising can not occur again - your mother can not grow you in her womb twice. The solution to the suffering arising from our own births is inherent in ourselves - we are orientated towards an inevitable death. And the solution to the suffering of other sentient beings? That's on them to deal with.
>>22556360This guy looks 24.. why should I listen to anything he has to say?
I need ultra-gory/brutal horror novels for spooky month.The literary equivalent of NC-17/X rated slasher gorefests.
>>22547619Is The Rats by Herbert any good?
>>22546235Upton Sinclair's "The Jungle" is pretty horrific and gory>>22546244I don't seem to recall much explicit gore from Lovecraft apart from him describing profane and horrid sights that the narrator shall refrain from relaying to the reader that they may not be afflicted by ceaseless night terrors and visions in the dark.
>>22553572Here the season is spooky in a too cute a way, at least until past Thanksgiving. By January a more convincing spookiness can set in: Driving rural interstates in a big quiet ol' sedan can seem a bit like landing on the moon at times, with music you didn't expect to match. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxbsSVwemgM&list=OLAK5uy_nGPxToS0FelseuN1PKsG-Z4ypMtFtaENY&index=5>>22557266>Upton Sinclair's "The Jungle" is pretty horrific and goryMore than that, as expose it not only took a lot of balls to go there, its impact was huge and almost entirely salutary.
>>22546235Can never go wrong with Tales of the Unreal
>>22557723Don't know what you were reading but that first release was rough man.
Has Matt Dillahunty taken the crown as the most annoying new atheist?
>>22557437>married to trannywhy should i take him seriously?
>>22557437>people will interpret the longest allegorical text ever written differentWoah...
>>22557437>professional twitch streamer >divorced >no degrees >professional magician Sounds like a quintessential nu atheist to me desu
>>22545414>Because rightwing politics doesn't favor artists.*stares*Speaking of which, what were some of the other great right wing artists, like TS Eliot? And why do leftists (an artificial distinction that we should not be too attached to) tend to be so dishonest and wrong?
>>22557010Virtually everyone was "right wing" and "fascist" before the 19th century so yeah art is a right wing invention. As is science etcBasically of right wing militaristic imperialistic ethnonationalism
>>22557010It's not that the "right" suck at art, it'd that Conservatives suck at art
High modernism as a response to postmodernism is certainly rightist in spirit. Its also just better taste in art than cuckservative realist normalfaggotry.
>>22557661Most realist artists are leftists, generally. But idk what's going on in americaHistorically, realism is a rightwing thing and leftist types denounced it in favor of throwing paint at blank canvases or calling bad technique "impressionism"
>>22557674But art as art in itself and not for social contextualization is a concept that is historically non-leftist. This is part of why current leftists tend away from modernist abstraction.
For me it's The Betrothed by Alessandro Manzoni, but I also like the works of Giovanni Verga a lot.
>>22557588I haven't read a ton of Italian authors but I love Italo Calvino. Invisible Cities is up there, but special mention to The Baron in the Trees.
>>22557588Decameron
Hilarotragoedia
>>22557588You like Verga a lot?
>>22557588Names?
