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/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/. Philosophical discussion can go on either /lit/ or /his/, but those discussions of philosophy that take place on /lit/ should be based around specific philosophical works to which posters can refer.

Check the wiki, the catalog, and the archive before asking for advice or recommendations, and please refrain from starting new threads for questions that can be answered by a search engine.

/lit/ is a slow board! Please take the time to read what others have written, and try to make thoughtful, well-written posts of your own. Bump replies are not necessary.

Looking for books online? Check here:
Guide to #bookz
https://www.geocities.ws/prissy_90/Media/Texts/BookzHelp19kb.htm
Bookzz
http://b-ok.cc/
http://libgen.rs/
Recommended Literature
http://4chanlit.wikia.com/wiki/Recommended_Reading
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Are you incapable of making decisions without the guidance of anonymous internet strangers? Open this thread for some recommendations.

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>>19277868
will it? first off you are a westener, that is a given.
among the westeners, what have the western communards accomplished in the past century? all of them settled for a system of capitalism which redistributed wealth. today they sit idle and agitate governments to accept their perversions.
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>>19277869
>the people who want to die for no reason are the most interesting and free spirited people in the world
They seem like absolute retards if their aspiration is to be a cog in a wa in which they die
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>>19271097
Das Kapital. realise that you will not understand 20% of it on your own. Let David Harvey guide your readings. Ignore plebs in this thread using philosophical buzzwords to label Marx as if that explains anything.
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>>19277940
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBazR59SZXk
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>>19277940
Isn't harveys guide only for volume 1 or am i mistaken?

Letter to PG , Cairo, September 2, 1936: “... In the Arabic version of the Gospels, the designation of the Paraclete is Ahmed, which is the celestial name of the Prophet (Mohammed being his earthly name, and Mahmûd his paradisiacal name) . Because of this, the Emperor Heraclius came very close to recognizing the mission of the Prophet; it was only hijacked by certain members of the Greek clergy who claimed that there was an error of interpretation. "
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"God is dead" -Nietzsche
"Nietzsche is dead" -God
"God is Nietzsche" -Dead
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How silly do you have to be to think that Jesus was talking about an Arabic man 700 years later when He said:
>"And behold, I am sending the promise of my Father upon you. But stay in the city until you are clothed with power from on high.”(Luke 24:49)
[...]
>And while staying with them he ordered them not to depart from Jerusalem, but to wait for the promise of the Father, which, he said, “you heard from me;for John baptized with water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.”
>So when they had come together, they asked him, “Lord, will you at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?”He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or seasons that the Father has fixed by his own authority.But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.”(Act 1:4-8)

If this is not evidence that perennialism is a brain-rotting false ideology which makes even high-IQ embrace obvious falsehood, I do not know what is.
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>>19275146
>In the Arabic version of the Gospels, the designation of the Paraclete is Ahmed
Sounds like bullshit or a bad translation. Paraclete means "helper", and doesn't "Ahmed" mean something like "Praised One"?
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>>19275146
At the time of the Prophet when the early muslims migrated to abyssinia to escape meccan persecution, the king there accepted them and after hearing what they had to say about Jesus said:

O' you priests and monks, what they say (the Muslims) about the son of Mary is not more than what you say, you messengers of Muhammad are welcomed here and so he is. I bear witness that he (Muhammad) is the messenger of God, and that he is the one Jesus gave glad tidings of his coming. And if I wasn't occupied with this kingdom I would go to the prophet and personally carry his shoes".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Najashi

The Ethiopia and the Ethiopian church are very fascinating and escaped many ((reforms)) and ((councils)) and doesn't omit the book of Enoch which is still preserved and cannon to this day.
I don't know why Guenon didn't speak much about them, but I know that he mentions Ethiopians in "The Black Heads".
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>>19275146
There is no way to reconcile Christianity and Islam. Islam claims the Word of God is not Christ but the "uncreated Quran". This is simply the orthodox Islamic view.

Guénon also said Chinese would never succumb to Marxism.

Was anyone else really sensitive as a child? Here are some example from my life to give you an idea of what I mean (correct me if sensitive is not the right word)
>I was passionately in love with my neighbor from up the street from about age 4 to age 11
>In third grade I was asked by one of her friends if I loved her
>the teacher wasn't in the room at the time, so I passionately stood up at my desk and proclaimed my love
>I'm being serious when I say that I slammed my hands on the desk and said "Yes I, [my first and last name], love [my neighbor's first and last name]!"

Another example
>in 5th grade they were giving "the talk"
>it wasn't really about sex just the puberty talk
>your body is changing etc
>there may have been scientific diagrams of penises and their inner workings
>I was so affected by this I began to sweat tremendously
>I felt extremely nauseaous and like I was about to pass out
>I'm already pale but afterwards my teacher told me I'd become paler than usual and wondered if something wasn't seriously wrong with me
>other students noticed I was visibly sweating

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>>19277802
I saw the corpse of a lizard that other kids had strangled with wire when I was a kid and I felt the worst I had ever felt. There was a terrible injustice about it, that someone would kill an animal just because. I was 7 or 8. That was the second time I thought people were evil.
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Nice blogpost.
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>>19277802
Jesus christ you sound like Proust.
I too was a pussy child, so I get it.

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Books to make me feel like I can actually please a woman once one of them is able to overlook my awful personality and looks?
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>comparing fruits to genitals
why retards do this ?
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>>19277922
The title of the book is basically it. Make her cum a bunch and then ya nut.
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>>19277922
To The Lighthouse by Woolf. Women can never be satisfied--only temporarily pleased.
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>>19277933
Because they're demons going to hell.
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find the man in the boat and asphyxiate yourself between her thighs until she screams murder

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Is it unethical to spoil movie, books, and TV shows for people? A friend of mine used to "troll" his friends on social media by spoiling the ending of whatever they were interested in. It's not like it's illegal, but it always seemed like a shitty thing to do. Should we as a society tolerate serial spoilers?
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There's much more to literature and cinema than the plot so you shouldn't give a ehit about reading spoilers. It's still dickish to spoil things for people who want to experience the story as a novel thing.
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>>19277224
>so you shouldn't give a ehit about reading spoilers
If it doesn't matter why then isn't it almost universally condemned?
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>>19276894
Snape kills Dumbledoor

What even is religion after figures like
>Spinoza
>Kant
>Nietzsche
>Freud
>Wittgenstein

How does christianity still stand? genuine question, not trying to be edgy
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>>19275741
Also Brazil is the least christian nation on earth. The numbers mean nothing. In fact, I couldn't put my hand on any truly christian nation except for Vatican maybe?
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>>19277882
There were different terms to refer to the word ''enemy'' in Greek. Read Schmitt, peabrain.
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>>19277925
>china is going to become christian in a year
>but brazil isnt actually christian
Did the dilator slip out or something?
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>>19277925
holy shit what is it with lit's being filled with retarded people lately?
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>>19277928
>in Greek
Do you think Jesus was preaching in Greek (=intellectual language) to the illiterate peasants of Palestine?
:)
>Read
no u

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I feel kinda sorry for John McWhorter. I think this is appropriate for /lit/ since he probably became the way he is from reading a lot of literature
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>>19276664
He makes more money than you do and he has garnered enough prestige to be able to write for publications with large audiences. Why do you feel sorry for him?
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>>19276675
>>19276682
>>19276701

>When we utter a word, we cannot help but mentally see an image of its written version. In our heads, what we have said is that particular sequence of written symbols. When we say “dog,” a little picture of that word flashes through our minds, Sesame Street-style. Imagine saying “dog” and only thinking of a canine, but not thinking of the written word. If you’re reading this book, it follows that you couldn’t pull this off even at gunpoint.
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>>19276755
that used to happen to me all the time when i spent like every waking moment on irc

btw, did u see his column in the nyt today about the usage of object pronouns? if u have grammar autism check it out
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>>19276755
Holy autism! this nigga from miller grove or some shit?
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>>19276664
I do have a soft spot for "Our Magnificent Bastard Tongue", but McWhorter needs to STFU about politics even more than Bill Maher. Dude's 100% Oreo.

What's the best short novel you've read? Not a short story, but a full on book; just very short
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>>19275951
I want to kiss you on your hot mouth
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pedro paramo
michael kohlhaas
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>>19275951
What's up, dyke?
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>>19276076
Just read, both v good.
Death in Venice is also top tier.
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>>19275794
Running Wild by Ballard was good. Read that this year. The Fifth Child by Doris Lessing was memorable.

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Previous Thread: >>19261951

For Prose:
>The Art of Fiction
>Story Genius: How to Use Brain Science to Go Beyond Outlining and Write a Riveting Novel (Before You Waste Three Years Writing 327 Pages That Go Nowhere)
>On Becoming A Novelist
>Writing Fiction: A Guide to Narrative Craft
>How Fiction Works
>The Rhetoric of Fiction
>Steering the Craft
>On Writing, Borges
>Links: https://pastebin.com/i4RLYJEx

For Poetry:
>The Poetry Home Repair Manual

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>>19277788
Writing is good. All work is derivative, the only difference is to what degree. That being said, I would personally be less happy with writing successful fanfiction than writing stuff of my own.
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>>19277798
I wrote I think 1k words earlier this evening? It isn't hard from the right mindset - the tough part is editing it into enjoyable prose (if necessary).

I wanted to pursue writing at least 500 words a day (I think that is pretty easy and fair for anyone, even workaholics) but it's been tough going.

I will be laying around after my kids go to bed, with nothing at all stopping me from writing one of the numerous stories I have to update / work on, but I don't.

I compare it to people who go to the gym. Working out is something you need to stick with and not make excuses about, same as writing. If you take one day off from the gym, the next gym day it feels easy to just make excuses.

The trick to writing is to not make excuses and just do it, no matter what. I have not mastered it yet, but I think it's just that simple and anybody looking for prompts / challenges is missing the point.

We do not write just to write; we write to tell our stories. And that requires us to write, every day, even if we do not wish it, or think that we do not wish it.

>>19277821
True but writing successful OG stories is 1000x harder than writing comparatively "successful" fanfiction.
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>>19277788
Dan Wells wrote fan fiction for 8 years while working a dead-end hotel job before he got serious and published an actual book to start his career. If you are serious about improving, then you're gmi.
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>>19276731
ok
>>19277047
sentences are too long
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>>19277788
I used to write conic the hedgehog fan fiction. It was a different time.
I’ve toyed with rewriting the most recent terminator movie.

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Will non-binary authors be a thing of the near future? Will the topic be explored more in a couple of years?
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>>19277777
Identifying as non binary because you dont fit into gender norms literally is more like saying that people are defined by gendered behavior though
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>>19277761
>Be zoomer
>Realize you're not special
>Society tells you "non-binary" people are special
>Decide to identify as non-binary

Couple other things: 1.) Pic related is just a chick in dude's clothes. 2.) The book that made her famous was only slightly better than average in quality. 3.) If your book wins the non-English "Booker Prize" you didn't really win the Booker Prize.
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>>19277907
That was my point.. most people would fit the definition of "non-binary" because gender theory is false. nb is a meaningless term
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>>19277921
Oh i misunderstood your post then
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>flat chest

Rijnebros...

Post and Rate
Do Both
No Rate = No Feedback.
Don't post paragraphs of text if possible.
Have fun
:)
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>>19275417
>>19275429
>>19275438
get off /lit/ faggots
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>>19275330
bumping with hope for this
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>>19272796
the reason why
the reason why
the reason why i had to die
did i bleed the blood of greed
what is my destiny
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Actuality

Only walls are around and winter's outside.
There's just no way out, for many long years
You chase the mirage of true freedom and hide
From horrible nightmare in daydream frontiers.

Every wave that is crashing against the shore
Of the heart in the chest, stiffen and petrified,
Makes it just ever harder to have any hope or
to heartly believe in good turn of the tides.

To believe that some time or the other will crumble
This realm tightly chained in perpetual pain.
When the time doesn't heal you, but aimlessly stumble

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>>19274898
Now this is something worth consideration. I would love to read more of your work anon.

Is this worth reading? Whats the appeal?
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>>19277572
yes
just read it
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>>19277665
Which other book?
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>>19277572
Yes.
>What's the appeal?
Read it and find out.
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>>19277783
Exactly
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>>19277596
I'll agree it's one of the finest. I don't know if it would be the one book I use to represent humanity, but it would be in the top five.

What are you reading tonight?
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About to start this.
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>>19273551
Virgin Gleick v. Chad Isaacson
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>>19273908
Hard to be a God was the book I finished previous to this, had a really good time with it.
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>>19275884
This mirrors my thoughts.
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>>19274009
Based and Deedlit pilled.

>>Who were your comic influences?
>I watched a lot of comedy when I was young on TV. When I started writing comedy I'd always look to writers, because I found the writing in standup highly inferior to the writing in songs and obviously the writing in literature. So I was lucky enough to read a lot of books. I have a friend of mine that's a country songwriter that I feel is the best writer in America and I talk to him a lot, and I listened to Bob Dylan and stuff when I was young. I feel like songwriters I like a lot as writers, but I think novelists, especially the Russians, in terms of writing were the most fantastic writers. That's where I figured out what writing was about. Not from comedy, not from comedians. You have to make it funny, but there's no new thoughts or anything. That's also what I find funny about people that go to make points and don't understand these points were made hundreds of years ago. But the greatest thoughts are the funniest ideas, and if you're lucky enough to read literature, actual literature, then you find out these people that wrote it knew everything about the human condition. So all you have to do is read them and it's better than experiencing things in life, that's for sure.
>>Reading is better than experience?
>Yes, reading is far superior to experience because when you read you can read a master writer's insights into the world that would take you forever. If I read Moby Dick how am I supposed to experience that in life? I can't experience anything. All I can do, especially in this life, is go and have the same banal conversations with the same people over and over and over in an endless loop of nonsense. Yeah. *laughs* So I'm trying to read as much as I can. I only have so many years and I'm a very slow reader. Fuck I'm so slow. It's crazy. And I never got to go to school so it's a lot harder for me without the proper education to understand everything, but I really, really like to read.
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>>19274034
God I miss him. I was just listening to his club standup sets last night trying to fall asleep. What's so amazing about Norm was that he was always the smartest guy in the room, but feigned as if he was some dope. That persona is a much better vehicle for comedy, and he never cared about seeming smart, just making people laugh. The more I learn about him, the more I love him. The love of Russian literature is great, but he was also a math whiz. He graduated from high school when he was 14. He was a gambler who lost all his money multiple times, and the experience motivated him to develop an ascetic lifestyle. And he was a fucking anti-horny recluse!
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>A moth goes into a podiatrist’s office, and the podiatrist’s office says, “What seems to be the problem, moth?”

>The moth says “What’s the problem? Where do I begin, man? I go to work for Gregory Illinivich, and all day long I work. Honestly doc, I don’t even know what I’m doing anymore. I don’t even know if Gregory Illinivich knows. He only knows that he has power over me, and that seems to bring him happiness. But I don’t know, I wake up in a malaise, and I walk here and there… at night I…I sometimes wake up and I turn to some old lady in my bed that’s on my arm. A lady that I once loved, doc. I don’t know where to turn to. My youngest, Alexendria, she fell in the…in the cold of last year. The cold took her down, as it did many of us. And my other boy, and this is the hardest pill to swallow, doc. My other boy, Gregarro Ivinalititavitch… I no longer love him. As much as it pains me to say, when I look in his eyes, all I see is the same cowardice that I… that I catch when I take a glimpse of my own face in the mirror. If only I wasn’t such a coward, then perhaps…perhaps I could bring myself to reach over to that cocked and loaded gun that lays on the bedside behind me and end this hellish facade once and for all…Doc, sometimes I feel like a spider, even though I’m a moth, just barely hanging on to my web with an everlasting fire underneath me. I’m not feeling good." And so the doctor says, “Moth, man, you’re troubled. But you should be seeing a psychiatrist. Why on earth did you come here?”

>And the moth says, “‘Cause the light was on.”
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>>19274419
he wasn't rightwing, he was just a christian. He just supported Bush once.
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>>19277797
That was ironic, anyway. He was just trying to piss off The View.
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>>19274060
>dislikes Norm cuz pretentious
>uses a pretentious word
just say he be full of himself or he be thinkin he da shit like cmon nigga practice what chu preach frfr tho




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