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What is some serious anti-porn literature? When I say serious, I mean rigorous work on porn's deleterious effects. We have Dworkin etc. who examine it from a feminist lens but that's political shitposting by midwits. The problem I've run into when trying to understand this subject is that the only people who bother to discuss it are feminists and reactionaries. My intuition says that pornography induces certain negative qualities onto the viewer but so far what I've found has been lacking.So if there is such a thing as serious literature against pornography, where to start?
>>16889160>could it be that general societal conditioning has made you feel guilty over it?Weird, since society is basically about promoting it and making it guilt free, ever wondered if guilt is perhaps a natural response to doing something evil and your lack of guilt just makes you a sociopath.
>>16894220No, neither masturbation or porn are healthy, just sex with a partner you love, if you do any of these things, you will just cause yourself to emotionally burn out.
>>16889417Kyssincerely
>>16889417I don't even know of this post is serious or a shitpost If it's a shitpost this is a 10/10If you're serious kys
>>16894220You're actually retarded if you think porn use is healthy in any way.
Just finished reading pic related; it will take me a long time to recover.If you can read French and love literature, I urge you to engage in this masterpiece (not memeing).
>>16891893post a good page with good prose from it please, I suspect it's only one guy shilling this book recently but I'm actually interested
>>16893931Somebody should make it.
>>16894006Well, I've seen someone mention it here a couple of months ago, that's what got me into reading it.I'm not Sean Goonan nor a random Guenon fag shilling meme books that I haven't read.I've just read a phenomenal book and want to share it as Rebatet has been deliberately ignored because of his political views and is thus unknown to the general public, even though he could have been as famous as Céline imo. That's all.You can see the rates on French websites (9.1/10 for 230 reviews on senscritique.com, for instance), the book is unanimously accepted among those who have finished it.And ffs, I don't understand why I should have to spoonfeed it to you when you can find it for free and are already interested. Follow your guts. Is your time so precious that you can't read the beginning of a book and decide if it's worth it to you on your own?It's a 1300 pages novel, I'm not gonna sell it like a diet pill. As I've said, I just wanted to mention it because it is obscure, and undeservedly so. If you're interested, read it. If not, don't read it. Simple.You will find a passage in pic, but it is a random one.>>16893931If I were rich and didn't have to work I would gladly work on a clandestine translation
>>16894448I don't really care if it's just one guy or not, it looks actually interesting. Also I did not ask for an excerpt so you could "sell it to me" but because surely there are some passages that marked you more than others and that could as such give me a better grip of the style of Rebatet than just picking some random passage by myself. Thank you for posting an excerpt anyway.
Okay, let's crowdsource an unauthorized translationhttps://discord.gg/fGarZ6h6
it seems like we only talk about the same small handful of books here. post a book that isn't one of those and try to convince other anons to read it.i think most anons read portnoy's complaint and drop roth entirely. i've never seen a thread about any other book of his which is a shame because while portnoy's is very funny it doesn't show off roth's skill in writing realistic characters as well as this one. roth's best protags are men that you feel will but on a brave face no matter what and the choice to explore them using a third oerson perspective is a smart one since their being unemotive lends itself to all kinds of speculation. this book is easily in my top five.
>>16893647I haven't read The Maimed for about 10 years, so I don't remember much, but I do remember that I liked it a lot, that it felt similar in some sense to Hunger by Hamsun, and the protagonist was one of those weird outsider types. The Maimed is on the Exit-Tier list, it's one of those depressing type books.
>>16891222I really liked The Human Stain, American Pastoral, and Sabbaths Theater (which was gross)
>>16892112Aura is really good. There's a illustrated version available in Spanish but there are no copies available online. I did manage to grab about 7 illustrations from it though and I included them in an English translation that I've uploaded to zlibrary with this cover if anyone wants a copy, the illustrations are really good.
>>16894403Sabbaths Theater is really great
>>16891049American Pastoral is one of my favorite novels. As a young lad it taught me not to take political radicalism so seriously as my actions will hurt my own life and family far more than enacting any global fruitful change. That was really important to me and I still carry that lesson with me
the virgin Penguin Random House Simon Schuster vs. the chad Amazon editionprevious: >>16881228For Prose:>The Art of Fiction>On Becoming A Novelist>Writing Fiction: A Guide to Narrative Craft>How Fiction Works>The Rhetoric of Fiction>Steering the CraftFor Poetry:>The Poetry Home Repair Manual>Western Wind: An Introduction to PoetryComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>16894451>That sort of recognition is normal and healthy, but recognition of the sort that fame or popularity bring are different.Actually that sort of recognition was the recognition I was talking about. But even then, this looks like a no true Scotsman fallacy: it's still desire for "recognition" o "validation" even if it's not in the "fame or popularity" sense. And where exactly do you draw the line? When is it that simple validation becomes fame? What happens then, is the writer no longer a real writer?>Some people try their hardest to have as many people enjoy their stories as possible because it brings them happiness knowing they have affected people.Sound like a bunch of attention whores who don't do it "for fun", doesn't it? Why do they care so much that their work affects other people if they should be doing it all for themselves with no other narcissistic poison clouding their base motive to write?>Regarding fun, I simply meant, to you personally, that if you're having an existential crisis over whether to write or not, it's clearly not something you should be doing>Others value things more and have passions.It's kind of weird that someone who isn't passionate to begin with, would have an existential crisis over whether or not he should keep going? Do you also think that suicides have no desire for a better life, and instead just like the idea of dying?Yes I am nihilistic but I just don't see it.
>>16894485See >>16894497It's still "recognition" or "validation" and anon condemns it because the true artist should not be motivated by such things but just enjoy the act of creating.
>>16894427>since virtually every writer tries to get "recognition" for his work in one way or the otherI just want my readers to have fun.
>>16894503I don't want to get too P-zombie, but I basically believe that art for art's sake approaches altruism. If art is made for personal enrichment, it's functionally a different implementation of any other for-profit endeavor and deserves no glorification. The distinction is unknowable to an observer, but the unknowability doesn't invalidate the concept—it just makes it unknowable.
>>16894497The point of nihilism is to deny all point and "not see" motivations, passions or cultural norms as necessary or having any reason behind them. It's a hole that you need to manually crawl out of because there IS no logical reasoning against it. Everything has no worth. Whether we all die of covid tomorrow or civilization continues for another thousand years, it doesn't matter. But that line of thinking does nothing for anyone and we wouldn't have the ability to think like that if its how our ancestors had thought. If you ever have any hardship in your life, you will understand how pointless it is to wallow in your own insignificance when you could be attempting to better things for yourself and those in the future, just like everyone before you.As I alluded to, I can't see this discussion going anywhere because arguing with nihilism is pointless. I hope you find a way to escape the hole, anon, and can find reasons to actually dream and work towards those dreams.
Why is it so controversial? People working at the publishing house were literally crying tears at their bosses about how they shouldn’t publish ithttps://nypost.com/2020/11/25/publisher-left-staffers-in-tears-over-jordan-peterson-book-report/
>>16889924do we?
>>168831741, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 10, 12 - shit10 - ???5, 9 - alright
>>16883015Uhm, sweaty, if you support Stalin while residing in the US you proabably are brainwashed, that’s beyond Democrat vs republican paradigm
>>16886030I don't hate Peterson like all the lefties on here but it is pathetic how he completely failed as a father.
>>16887304LMAO THIS NIGGA DAD DONE SUCKED HIS DICK
What software does /lit/ use for writing?
>>16894157Make sure to use legacy version. The new one really sucks... Or just use joplin instead
Scrivener. It works well and is stable, different backup options, even if the program gets unusable the data in the folders is still usable, many options.Not perfect but better than a vanilla word processor and very useful if you have many chapters.
>>16893326Overleaf
>>16893777the only non-pseud answer itt
I use a typewriter
Need recs of prose about overcoming obstacles, where main character has strong will, determined and unwilling to give up. Anything Nitzscheian, Ragnarian or Stirnerian in spirit.
Bump
>>16894354Just read Beserk
Atlas Shrugged
The Fountainhead
bump
>age>male or female>nation>how many books you read in your life>favorite writer or author>are you a virgin>fav sex position>fav book
>>1689303359transover 100Nick Landno lolreverse bareback jackhammerFanged Noumena
age20>male or femaleMale>nationEngland >how many books you read in your life106>favorite writer or authorDickens>are you a virginNo>fav sex positionDoggy>fav bookComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>16893033Another data-mining thread, I see.>37>male>USA>Probably somewhere around 1,500-2,000>Robert Penn Warren>No>My standbys are missionary and cowgirl, with doggy thrown in now and then>Remains of the Day
19MalePhilippines2Dan brownYesMating pressMeditations
>>16894526>1500 to 2000Absolutely based
Any books like this movie?
/lit/ has helped him to grasp the intricancies of the craft that never have left him since.unironically, he has BTFO /lit/ and has grown out of this shit.https://youtu.be/Gh4xkxWgocI
>>16892755record it from a distance
>>16886869I wrote this greentext. Feels weird that someone saved it or made the effort to copy/paste it.
>>16889869Can someone post a link to this? Where is it posted?
>Fails to hold down shitty part-time store job>Whines and tells everyone about her manga hobby>Fails to work with her friends, complains about not having friends>Inverse Electra Complex (?????????)>Whines about wanting a hug>Tranny???>"I hate myself ;(">"I blame my parents and I'm scared of sex">"I have 6 gorillion self-diagnosed mental illnesses">Needs to "gather courage" to get in the bath>Blames parents more>Whines about being lonely and having no friends (despite pushing all her friends away)>Weird schlopy lesbian sex scene with hooker>Didn't even enjoy it, "heart wasn't naked">"I wrote a manga about getting my pussy fiddled, now I have a will (nectar) to live"Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>16894505Nice to see a followup on the gay thread from yesterday, thanks for reading this garbage so that I don't have to, anon. Sounds awful lol.
women cannot experience pathos, it always amounts to whining about how they don't get EVERYTHING they want, while still basically having no responsibilities or problems
>>16894505>Inverse Electra Complexisn't that just an Oedipal complex? anyways, it's no surprise that a dyke is mentally ill. a woman who doesn't get dick inside her by the end of adolescence is bound to be unhinged.
>>16894505How is this act different from the incel personality which is so widely empathized with on this board.If a dude wrote this it'd either be ignored or celebrated as "hitting right in the feels" here.
>>16894517The absolute worst part of it was how she blamed her parents for everything despite them never doing anything to warrant it. They let her live rent free, encouraged her take a break and look after herself. She wrote that she "hated" her mother despite her mother letting her live with her. The whole thing stank of "whaaa I have dEprEssIOn it's not my fault and I blame my parents for everything". It was hard to get through. Not quite as hard as reading through the ten thousand 5 start gr reviews.>>16894519>isn't that just an Oedipal complex?I think that would be daughter desiring mother. Regardless. that's how I intended it. AGAIN despite claiming to "hate" her mother (for no discernible reason) she also wanted to fuck her.
>I have not been a theist for a single second of my life. In my first assemblies at primary school, when the theist idiocy was first wheeled out, I remember thinking: it is natural that adults should lie to you, but is it really necessary for them to insult the intelligence quite this much? As for the longing to believe, nothing could be more alien to me, because nothing is more obvious than the fact that humanity--far from being a creation-- is a disease. Why should the absence of a divinity analogical to mankind be more disturbing than the absence of a giant tortoise supporting the world on its back?Why haven't you abandoned your dead god and dedicated your life to studying the writings of the greatest man of our time?
>>16894433Why
>>16894476Because his writing is amazing. duh.
>>16894305>has no arguement>seethingGo back
>>16894437You know the answer
>>16894305At this moment you were a kike shill return to the pit from whence you came you snickering imp, go back and retract your long nose of darkness from this board. Back back I say
and why?
>>16894058>>16894056>>16893698it was real in his mind
>>16890371The ones conjured by AI Dungeon are pretty good
The Last Light of the Sun by Guy Kay, a mediocre fantasy novel:A young male virgin got his seed extracted by an old witch to create a magical potion but it doesn't work at all and she betrays him. Not that really rape, rather Weinstein-rape.
>>16894061Then it wasn't real anywhere else.
>>16890371I dunno, but would probably have to be one of the man on boy/man ones. They still make me feel dirty and violated, whereas the straight ones my coombrain just finds erotic
post your dad's favorite book
This. I am extremely embarrassed.I've also seen Bakunin, Kropotkin and other cringe-lords in his library. I don't think he's EVER read anything that predates the 19th centuryBoomers really are a lost cause and will forever remain spiritually and culturally defective
>>16894159based dad failed son
>>16893606What's it like having a dad who reads? I'm still not even convinced that mine even has a soul.
>>16894469Any political book is pretty much pleb tier
