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/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/. Philosophical discussion can go on either /lit/ or /his/, but those discussions of philosophy that take place on /lit/ should be based around specific philosophical works to which posters can refer.

Check the wiki, the catalog, and the archive before asking for advice or recommendations, and please refrain from starting new threads for questions that can be answered by a search engine.

/lit/ is a slow board! Please take the time to read what others have written, and try to make thoughtful, well-written posts of your own. Bump replies are not necessary.

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http://4chanlit.wikia.com/wiki/Recommended_Reading

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>Feel depressed
>Tried every cope in the book, from excersize and healthy living to drugs and casual sex
>Nothing works
>Start reading philosophy
>Actually feel better, and not just short-term

Thanks philosohy
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>>18054292
Likewise, philosophy changed my life for the better
I started with picrel
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>>18054425
Currently Stoicism and Epicur and (i know it sounds silly) Ted Kacyznski, after that im moving into existentialism with Kierkegaard>Sartre>Camus

Ive only recently started, as ive decide i want to go to philosophy university (im 18), so i have kind of a baseline understanding about western philosophy, but id lovs to get into eastern aswell

>>18054300
I think that our beliefs are what shape us, and that they are what it means that "you" decided what you did.
This sounds like an offshoot of determinism?
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>>18054500
>Ted Kacyznski
How does reading him not make you depressed.
I guess I'm a weakling.
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>>18054500
>Ive only recently started, as ive decide i want to go to philosophy university (im 18)
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>>18054292
same, fren. I'm eternally indebted to the divine Plato

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If the rumours turn out to be true, how will this affect the board?
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>>18055928
If this keeps going on every other board will be for containment. And then what do you end up with?
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>>18050123
Some of their policies do get adopted by the Democrats though and the state of America is truly disgusting because of this.
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>>18056009
Studied his mathematical work as a young stemfag. Saw his proof of the existence of God and decided not to waste my time with any more.
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>>18056502
A perfect reason to split the site again. 4chan for coomers and edgy people, 4containment for low-effort posters and 4channel for the ubermenschen.
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>>18056891
You do realize, much like in Spinoza's work, that Descartes' "God" is not necessarily the Western God which was popular at the time? It is just a philosophical construct based on his idea of the "infinite thinking being", which in his metaphysics is necessarily for his own existence, being a finite thinking being. You suppose too much about the author from your limited exposure. I would recommend you actually try to read his mediation, and this time without presupposing anything about the author.

Was recommended to me after I told the story of my childhood, being smart yet nearly failing high school, being diagnosed with ADHD and autism as a little kid then having to get those diagnoses overturned after $10,000 and tons of psychological screening. IQ is measured at 137 by a professional. The book absolutely describes what I went through to a T. I now have the theory that high IQ people get slapped with learning disability diagnoses to keep them shut out of society on purpose.
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it's alright being a 130 midwit
most things in life are easy to handle, you quickly accept that you won't be curing cancer anytime soon, and you can still form meaningful relationships with most people that matter
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>tfw 139 brainlet
so close to genius status...just one more point...but i'm still so far away...i can't even bear to talk to people 140+ IQ...they make me feel like a child...
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>>18057207
lmao, here's a reading comprehension exercise suitable for your IQ: show me exactly where I did that. I wasn't meaning to (You) your sad ass, but a seething brainlet grammar nazi making an ass of himself this quickly is just too good.
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>>18057214
contrary to popular belief, having a high IQ does not make you into a robot with perfect swipe pad skills. in fact i feel more than the average man, much more. the universe is swirling around me. I wish I could stop breathing
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>>18057275
>tfw so smart you're a giant pussy

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>Decide to start reading the Bible.
>Realize nobody actually reads it
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just smoke the pages with marijuana
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>>18055208
>Realize nobody actually reads it
Well what did you expect? Most of the Christians here are catholic
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>>18056445
you resort to insults? how low.
the way you call my foreign on a global baord just go to show your arrogance. you think everyone on earth is american? how naive.

yes english is not my mother tongue. but at least im literate enough to know 3 languages, 4 counting my rusty russian. while you my arrogant friend need everything translated for you.

i have only 2 interactions in this post. none of them are religious. and yes you can talk about the bible without any theological arguments. which is what i did. my friend, you need to change you shitty character you sound arrogant and lonely
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>>18057185
pissed me off so much i made even more typos. kudos
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>>18057185
>>18057210
guess we gonna shit on rocks

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Wow, it's just rehashed Buddhism but he doesn't want to admit it to himself. Why is this guy taken seriously on this board again?
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>>18057179
It’s two or three guys. Stop making threads about it.
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>>18057179
>rehashed Buddhism
No it’s not, Vedanta teaches the reality of the Supreme Being Brahman, that consciousness is eternal and unchanging, that the Sruti texts are revealed scriptures and many other premises which are rejected by Buddhism. Adi Shankaracharya refuted Buddhism by pointing out among other issues how their doctrine of no-self makes no sense and is contradicted by the nature of how we experience things.

Buddhism took like 75% of his metaphysics from the Upanishads that predates him (karma, avidya, transmigration, misidentification with the body and mind, etc) and then Buddhists have the nerve to say the Vedanta based on those Upanishads is rehashed Buddhism; truly absurd.
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>>18057228
can i have bob pictures pls
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>>18057179
Anon, are you bored because there is no buddhist vs vedantist thread? Maybe you should read something instead of making your own thread.

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This book was recommended by Jordan Peterson and it has made me more sympathetic to the plights of the working class than any of the often shilled leftie or commie lit. He's also right when he says leftists don't care for the lower class, they just hate the upper class.
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>>18056938
The family should have no control unless it is the best interests of the individual child. When the child can be self sufficient, and no longer dependent on the family, then the individual has no reason value or to care about the family unless they desire it.
>>18056938
But you are the mentally ill person though. You're here defending the absolute rule of the family over the individual. You think its okay for children be raped by their parents because the family should have some control over them.
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>>18056969
>The family should have no control unless it is the best interests of the individual child. When the child can be self sufficient, and no longer dependent on the family, then the individual has no reason value or to care about the family unless they desire it.
And who determines that?
We have the law, a principle of innocent before proven guilty. If you do bad to your children, you get them taken away from you.
>But you are the mentally ill person though. You're here defending the absolute rule of the family over the individual. You think its okay for children be raped by their parents because the family should have some control over them.
Why don't you kill yourself then? Aren't people outside of society capable of monstrous things? Has society not been the one who kidnaps, and the parents fighting to find the child desperately?
It goes both ways.
I know absolute control is not possible, that is why I don't have a problem, and actually think they are good, because it is prosperous to the psyche. Do you know the effects of not growing up with a father are like?
Why don't you kill yourself, since humans kill, rape, nuke, and genocide. You are a part of humanity. Shame be upon you.
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>>18056668
see?
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>>18057015
>And who determines that?
The child does when they are able to reach the age to have the ability rebel against the family.
>We have the law, a principle of innocent before proven guilty.
So you literally contradicted yourself, retard. You said you did not want the state to have control over the child - where do you think laws come from, you fucking retard? Who do you think enforces them. Fucking dumbass.
>Do you know the effects of not growing up with a father are like?
Clearly, a retard like you against the state have adoptive services to help fatherless children to find fathers because that's communism to a fucking retard like you.
>Why don't you kill yourself, since humans kill, rape, nuke, and genocide
Because retards like you mis the point completely. My responsibility to not solve the murderous, destructive habitats of human beings. My responsibility to satisfy my own needs, and I do not do that by "serving humanity", "the family", and wasting my time solving their endless bickering and bitching. Regardless of what asinine beliefs you have; you share the same fate - a death that will dissolve you and everything you've attached yourself too - including "the family" you fucking moron. In the mean time; I will do the things that make me happy, and I spit in the face any rat, like yourself, who dares assert you have any authority of me, or that any human construct be it the family, the state, religion et should have absolute control over me.
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>>18056493
>It is the fault of the family. Imagine being such a fucking retard you think the family is infallible. You are such a degenerate.
SHow me on this doll where your parents hurt you alright?
The fact that you had shitty parents doesn't mean everyone does. If you didn't come from a line of degenerate fuckups reinforcing mental illness, you'd probably be a decent person. The family isn't infallible, but it's better than many other systems such as state education.
>>18056500
Jesus christ I really hope this is bait but you probably really think this. Please go treat your mental illness, you're delusional.
The individual cannot develop on its own, it needs reference. Which will always be a system built by humans. If not, you get those wild beast children. Retard.

im sure you guys get this one requested alot. Are there books on how to recover from neetdom (with its consequences like a fried brain and internet addiction)?
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>>18057024
>Would unironically kms if I had to submit to the 9-5 office grind.
Yeah well some of us are at this point and we can’t NEET so. I’m probably going to do it in August.
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I don't necessarily think it's being a NEET that's really killing you, it's the internet addiction. As others have said, there are ways to enjoy NEETdom without degrading into fried mush. Honestly I would try not logging onto the internet at all for a week, I've seen it help others. And then you can take steps from there to detox. I think that may help you more than any single book will.

I'm a 9-5 wagie only because I have to be. I get zero satisfaction of any kind from working or earning a wage, and I say that as someone who also doesn't hate their job and likes their coworkers. Being socially successful and getting a life partner mean nothing to me, I see a partner as just another chain to the rat race and to a life I don't really want. I only work because I need to eat and house myself with those wages. I try not to think too much about how I'll be doing this for the next 40 years or so.

Your only real problem is the source of your funds. If no one is unhappy with you not working, why do so? It's only once the funds run out that you need to maybe worry.
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>>18057148
There's always an alternative. Do you need to support family or something?
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>>18054252
i've been neeting since november last year
it's very fun if you have hobbies, friends, and don't depend on the internet for entertainment
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>>18055843
Rollin

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>Tells people that it's not okay to be weak.
>Can't drink soft apple cider without almost dying.
Why do people live their lives based on this man's teachings?
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>>18056093
a video where refused to refer to some transsexuals by their preferred pro-nouns went viral and made him popular with manchildren who who blamed their immaturity and dissatisfaction with life on SJW's. Peterson came intro contact with these guys and felt a degree of empathy for them. But crucially, he was aware that they composed a massive, untapped market that would be susceptible to self-literature that he could produce.
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>>18049709
This >>18049732
Jung was a good shaman. Jung would make tiny model villages with you for fun. Jung would pay your coke bill. Jung would let you suck his cock if you really wanted to. Jung would investigate ghosts with you. Jung would spring you from mental asylum after you helped your gf patient an hero. Jung would know it's not just a cigar. Jung would make furry collages of your mom's pussy with you when you took too much ecstasy together. Jung would hate on Jungians with you and help you crash their conferences to fuck with them. Jung is a much better shaman.
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>>18056160
He created his own auto immune deficiency by having a shitty diet that no one with half a brain woild recommend
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>>18056045
>muh god muh country
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>>18054427
Not him, but I don't want to be heard. I want to be as niche as possible so that only people who actively seek out my kind of writing will find it.

Why were the Morlocks so evil?
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>>18057247
Because working class “people” are actually like that
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>>18057247
Man's gotta eat.

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Why do so many critics on twitter shill this book? Is it any good /lit?

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>>18057222
My complaint is strictly online, I don't know about IRL since I haven't had a life in years. But I've meet people in the liberal spectrum who were like this IRL too.
I am just frustrated because this is all that these people present to you. Hello I am a nonbinary latinx trans disabled person. What do I make of that? What is your personality even like? I don't give a shit about your skin color or sexual orientation, you're not telling me what you're made of. But I am supposed to not only accept but LIKE this just because if I don't I am a Nazi. It's retarded.
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Yesterday I held 18-year-old boobs for the first time. There is no going back after this. They were so, so firm. Every woman I've ever been with has been older than me, and their breasts were soft and going-flabby. This 18-year-old had such amazing breasts. My life will never be the same. I will never date beyond age 20. I can only desire youthful girls now. The MILF thing is a perversion and regret my past wooings.
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>>18055509
I felt this way for many girls until I met the one i actually did fall in love with. I miss that woman so much. I rememebr gaping her asshole in a log cabin on top of a mountain
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>>18057257
Oh, then in that case I would advise you to get off twitter (or wherever you're encountering them) or at least avoid engaging with people who have a bunch of identitarian buzzwords in their bios. Nothing good comes from arguing on the internet, no matter how good that little hit of rage feels in the moment.
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>>18057265
Nah man huge fatass tits are the best

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There will come a time in your study of philosophy when you realize that it all comes down to the choice between these two. For those who have already made this realization, which path did you chose and why?

My love for music, dance, art, beauty and the belief that an abundance of these things can give rise to meaning in our existence made the choice obvious. I feel utter contempt for illusions, deceit and cope, which I see as weakness and cowardliness, and hold the belief that life is only worth living as long as you can strive towards your will. Death is preferable to an enslaved will. So I follow Nietzsche in that life must be affirmed.
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>>18057227
Why he is retarded?
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>>18055551
What are some philosophical problems that weren't covered by Nietzsche?
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>>18057217
for several reasons, one of them, because it will harder to achieve what i want to do in life, my goals and my artistics ambitions, second because my life was so shitty (still it is in some aspects), i can´t really comprehend having a kid of my own suffering like i did, or worse, thirdly because i don´t think i will be a good father, why is that? well the thing is my childhood was really an unhappy one, i grew up with a passive father and a narcissistic mother who repeadtly abuse me physically and emotionally (to the point of torture), so i never had the chance to have a safe space or doing something that i would like to do on my own and having a kid basically means you have to sacrifice part of yourself for the sake of your kid, you know, putting his/her needs first, i can´t do that, i never was happy, i never had the chance to give my own satisfaction, another reason for not wanting kids is the decaying social structures in the west althought i know this is a weak excuse but it´s a valid one still
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>>18057263
Are you literally me? I have the exact same reasons for not wanting children although I would like a relationship someday. But unfortunately good women usually want children
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>>18057156
Then why do people say Schopenhauer wasn't a pessimist, since Nietzsche is as optimistic as it gets?

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What are your favorite literary romances stories?

I'm attempting to write a novel about young lovers, but I want it to be worth a damn. I accept that it will kitschy, and I'm okay with that, but I want to avoid writing complete schlock.
The key to great writing is great reading, so I need to read some more romance stories, so I want to hear your suggestions of fiction and poetry.
Any tips are also welcome.
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>>18056190
I wasn't a huge fan of the book but I thought Little, Big had some nice romantic bits.
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>>18056190
I really love Kawabata’s Snow Country which is pertinent to pic related actually.
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No anime edition.

>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs)
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ

>Archive
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Goodreads
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg

>Discord
Never going to be created.

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>>18054984
Mars trilogy is really boring i quit on green mars. Just the characters bickering and making drama with 30 pages of geology
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>>18056813
>the Aztecs were no where close to primitive
They had some neat advances but they wouldn't have lasted long even without the blankets and etc.
Iguanas are very expressive
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All this chinkshit and anime garbage is the fault of all you fags that weren't harsh enough towards all the retards that liked and discussed shit like Sanderson's terrible books. If you'd stomped out terribly written anime lite in the first place, we wouldn't be having a full on infestation right now.
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>>18057262
It's better than bakkerposting so I don't really care. Net improvement over two months ago
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>>18057144
Their agricultural practices were the most advanced in the world. They were basically just totally lacking the metal working tech tree




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