/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/. Philosophical discussion can go on either /lit/ or /his/, but those discussions of philosophy that take place on /lit/ should be based around specific philosophical works to which posters can refer.Check the wiki, the catalog, and the archive before asking for advice or recommendations, and please refrain from starting new threads for questions that can be answered by a search engine./lit/ is a slow board! Please take the time to read what others have written, and try to make thoughtful, well-written posts of your own. Bump replies are not necessary.Looking for books online? Check here:Guide to #bookzhttps://www.geocities.ws/prissy_90/Media/Texts/BookzHelp19kb.htmBookzzhttp://b-ok.org/Recommended Literaturehttp://4chanlit.wikia.com/wiki/Recommended_Reading
>co-worker finds out you're a writer>oh, do you have a blog?
Yes it's called lit dot com
>>15814061neocities but you'll have to write the website yourself
>>15813784>co-worker found the coming-of-age novella drafts
>coworker finds out you speak english>oh do you like to eat food I have a dog
Blogs still exist? I thought they went out of style with YouTube and tumblr/twitter.
I have a challenge. If you bump this thread, you have to read 80 pages before coming back to 4chan. I'll come back when I'm done to see if you can keep this thread up for so long.
>browse /lit/>every few minutes take a break to do push ups, squats, kettlebell swings, or kettlebell OHP>drink plenty of water and be sure to do a stretching routine every hour or soWhat are you doing to get /fitlit/? Come on anons, you can do this easily and start to form good habits, one step at a time.
Sustained By Low Quality Posts EditionHow do you feel about combining high and low tech in a single setting?https://boards.4channel.org/lit/thread/15778682#bottomarchive https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffgcharts https://mega.nz/folder/JrhSyY6S#7qmTPol52TnmpFOdbag7RQhttps://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
>>15818031>reading modern fantasypretty cringe desu
>>15818163Based, Moorcock hung out with the band Hawkwind back in the day
The fuck happened to Neal Stephenson? Everything since Anathem has been just pure garbage. A solid decade of doggerel. FUCK.
>>15818215Oh shit I'll check him out hawkwind is b&r
>>15811305>why yes let me blunt the tip of my sword on the gourd in order to rest my hands for a bit.
Was accelerationism ever a serious philosophy or is it just a rancid meme from five years ago?
>>15814933I happy being a reproductive organ is enough for you anon. It seems nice.
bump
>>15814299>which means you can somehow have a Capitalism without use-values or exchange-valuesCapital has been surprising us for millenias and marxist think their context-dependent definition of capitalism transcends time? They couldn't even foresaw Technique as the determinant, and instead propped up economics (a technique) as the driving force. A "capitalism" that isn't "capitalism at all" is not a counter-argument to capital as noumenon. It only shows that your own constrained definition of what Capitalism entails might be too narrow.
>>15814194You better start believing in accelerationist societies... you're in one.
>>15814194couldn't the same question be posed with every continental philosopher from the poststructuralists onward
How can we recover from this litbros
>>15818687But money is an invention in itself and so is private property. Well private property is a vestige of our monkey ancestors, but its still in itself a legal invention.
>>15816320By scrapping Marx and reading Nietzsche. Both he and Marx understood the death of God, but Nietzsche loved God and therefore still loved mankind, whereas Marx very clearly hated mankind. Is there yet any question that political systems built off the back of his theorizing don't always result in severe punishment and mass death?
>>15818701>money is an inventionYes, it is. It's explicitly so we don't resort to bartering a goat for 50 loafs of bread when a person neither wants nor needs that money loafs.>Private property is an inventionAre a troop of Chimpanzees that patrol and defend their territories merely victims of capitalist propaganda? What an absolutely retarded take. The only animals that don't have "private property" are ants and termites. And even they will kill outsiders from other colonies that intrude on their territories.
>>15818701>>15818770Private property is a direct reaction to one of the most single fundamental laws of nature, that resources are limited and we compete with everything else. Every animal observes this rule. Every plant observes this rule, competing for sunlight and water. To envision some utopia where resources are no longer competed over is childlike delusion at best. And before you even begin to argue we are not animals, humans have only escaped the malthusian trap in the last 2 hundred years after 12,000 years of settled agrarianism. And to it we shall return one day, when the carrying capacity of earth is reached and the only hope of economic expansion and growth is off world.
>>15818810>To envision some utopia where resources are no longer competed over is childlike delusion at bestI wouldn't say it's childlike, just unrealistic -- hence why it's utopic thinking. Another unrealistic thinking is that giving an overseeing force the power to be a third-party redistributor will not result in absolute corruption.
Weren't the Pyrrhonists right? How can you be sure about any of this shit?
>>15818011Eclecticism is the actual redpill
>>15818011You can't, but who cares about certainty when you can be reasonably confident
>>15818011I'm not sure.
>>15818098>Exactlyhow can you be sure of that?
>>15818566>confident>con fide>with faith
I acknowledge this thread gets posted daily, however I thought I might give my thoughts on it as what I heard about this book was not what it really was. First of all, Evola is not hard to read, with enough concentration,a surface level understanding of myths (however I acknowledge more background is good), and is spiritual and open to ideas, and by open I mean open, this book lives up to it's title and goes in full force against every academic assumption about history and "progress." Evola is not just some neo-pagan LARP like many make him out to be, and gives credit where credit is due to the Abrahamic faiths, and explains in detail why he is against them, at least in their "pure forms" by giving a decent summary of historical events and patterns. However it is painfully obvious Evola ignores the failings of the "traditions" he uses as points of reference, most likely due to his inner bias, however despite his view of Christianity, I think Catholics can even gain a deeper appreciation and pride in their faith by reading Revolt. I give it a solid 8/10.
Why was Achilleus so personally distraught over Agamemnon's seizure of Briseis? His anger is righteous in the face of the affront, but it seems disgraceful for a man of his prowess and stature to be reduced to tears, crying in his mother's arms and pleading with her to intervene on his behalf, like a child who has had his toy stolen by a slightly bigger boy.
>>15817679The society of the heroic age depicted by Homer is one of a shame culture, in which what other people think about you defines who you are. Agamemnon basically bitch slapped Achilles in front of everyone, making him look like an absolute beta cuck, which is especially insulting to Achilles because he is one of the most honored among the Greeks, one that single-handedly won them countless battles. A similiar thing is told in the Oddyssey, where big boy Ajax literally killed himself, because the Greeks valued Oddyseus over him and gave him Achilles' armor.
>>15818015Homer mentions it (24.25-30), so he was clearly aware of it. Which, should be obvious, as the entire meta narrative of the Iliad and the Odyssey is that they're being performed as the best stories to tell a specific part of the Epic Cycle. How could Homer NOT know the full story?
>>15818045You mention how Paris pissed of Hera and Athena.
>>15818347I’m not saying that Homer didn’t know the full story. I’m saying that Homer did know the full story and chose to only make use of part of it.
>MOMMY MOMMY>AGAPOOPYHEAD STOLE MY MAKE UP ARTIST>HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO LOOK PRETTY FOR PATTY NOW
Itt we discuss the best current /lit/ mags out there
>>15816934I for one enjoy the lit quarterly
bumpppp
Is non-existence the only logical conclusion to what comes after death? Is sleep the same thing as non-existence?
>>15813732i think I'm taking a non-existence
>>15813732On*
>>15816950>I’m not obsessing over her, but I suggest such caution with your heart for all girls.Haha she told me the same thing
>>15815260this is unironically true. every high test guy i know is bimbopilled
The concept of "nothing" doesn't become a reality until you die.
>but plotinus and shankara and all other cow worshippers told me it was going to be different
>>15818556has your arguments endedare only you left with Cyrilian insults because you have no real arguments against Julian? But yes, if you stick to Maximus the Confessor and throw out the pseud guenon, and actually read the "neo"platonists directly, maybe you'll become a based christian like he and the Areopagite. You're clearly knowledgeable and could perhaps influence the church to a better direction.
>>15818606I'm another anon. Still you are not part of any tradition and all this you speak of (Osiris, Odin, Dionysius) is long lost and just archeological curiosities. Your mythical knowledge depends on the work of contemporary academics and I doubt scholars have any valuable means of interpreting anything from old traditions
>>15818606>Still you are not part of any traditionpic related just killed modern philosophy as recently this springhe has made Plato undeniable
>>15818725Whatever. Good luck on being saved based on the readings of Gerson
>>15818713>>15818725Plato and Plotinus are the stem (not roots) of all philosophy, all philosophy is platonism.What we've had the past 1300 years is no different to the period of the middle platonists, just like Plotinus revived true philosophy, so Gerson now has. Death and revival is at the core of truth, unlike Christianity where death is to be abhorred and permanently ceased to be a reality once "christ returns".
Is this about race?
>>15814354Yes it is anti-racisthttps://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/herman-melville-answers-questions-about-racism-with-lines-from-moby-dick
>>15816404That article might be the only funny thing mcsweeners has ever published.
>>15816385I thought it was called “Heart of Darkness” not “Heart of Nigger”
>>15816830heart of nigger was the original title but they censored it later. kind of like ten little niggers/ten little indians/and then there were none
>>15816245Yes, reddit is cringe.
>>15807715u guys do realize that there's probably 10x more people with a nose like that that aren't jewish
>>15818312All Jews have big noses, but not all big noses are Jews.
>>15818269I agree anon, what I am describing is exceedingly rare. Does not mean it doesn’t occur. Though, I will concede that there is a conditionality in all relationships. Everyone seeks some personal utility from them. That’s why I’m sceptical of unconditional friendships. At the end of the day what is it? It’s two parties being able to confide in each other because the inability to do so would drive them mad. Ask me how I know.
>>15818435I will also add that men also feel lonely because the world frankly does not give a fuck about male suffering.
>>15818445Sure, but how much of that loneliness is a result of men not putting in the effort to maintain friendships? Toxic masculinity etc.
