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/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/. Philosophical discussion can go on either /lit/ or /his/, but those discussions of philosophy that take place on /lit/ should be based around specific philosophical works to which posters can refer.

Check the wiki, the catalog, and the archive before asking for advice or recommendations, and please refrain from starting new threads for questions that can be answered by a search engine.

/lit/ is a slow board! Please take the time to read what others have written, and try to make thoughtful, well-written posts of your own. Bump replies are not necessary.

Looking for books online? Check here:
Guide to #bookz
https://www.geocities.ws/prissy_90/Media/Texts/BookzHelp19kb.htm
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http://b-ok.org/
Recommended Literature
http://4chanlit.wikia.com/wiki/Recommended_Reading

Books on Hinduism, Vedic thought, yogic philosophy etc?

Due to the magnitude of the Indian canon, I want to read about core ideas, philosophy, mythology, cosmology etc, before diving into the actual works. Collections with commentry too.
Nothing too academic and analytic.

I read the Bhagavad Gita and Patanjali, a bit of Swami Vivekananda.

And if anyone knows of legit online sources to advance in practicing yoga that aren't white women in sexy tights, would be appreciated.
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>>15016740
upanishads
brahma sutras
yoga sutras
bhagavad gita
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White women forever tainted the concept of yoga for me. Any time I see the word I cringe.

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Does /lit/ keep a journal?
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>>15015814
the real question is do you want /lit/ to
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>>15015814
no i dont believe my life is interesting enough to remember
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>>15015814
I had been keeping a journal for years. It's worth it if you want to understand your own actions better and maybe this will make you a less dumb idiot. however, keep in mind that you produce unpublishable garbage that you need to burn before anyone sees it.
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>>15016739
why'd you stop?

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"In a 1986 interview, Green was asked, "And literature is written to be entertaining?" to which he replied emphatically, "Absolutely. My God, to read without joy is stupid.'"
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>>15016036
Like 4chan's /lit/ board
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>>15016036
>One can derive joy from deeply connect with something on an emotional level , or through discovering a profound idea, or altering one's worldview.
Isn’t that still reading with joy? Are you entertained because of the ideas you’re learning?
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>>15015944
correct
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>>15015944
When someone tells you that literature is not meant to be entertaining, you know that he is a pseud because he is not entertained by good literature
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>>15015944
>"Absolutely. My God, to read without joy is stupid.'
I read that in Zizek's voice.

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Was there actually anything remarkable about Jesus aside from being...nice? Why is he important? Was being nice an unknown concept in 0 AD Rome or something?
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>>15014627
>"Treat your foes and neighbors as family" is a hellova dogma for a Jewish spinoff sect.
No it isn't, that's straight from the Old Testament (the Jewish scriptures!)

Leviticus 9:18
>You shall not take vengeance or bear a grudge against any of your people, but you shall love your neighbour as yourself: I am the LORD.

Proverbs 25:21
>If your enemies are hungry, give them bread to eat; and if they are thirsty, give them water to drink;

Exodus 23:4-5
>When you come upon your enemy’s ox or donkey going astray, you shall bring it back.
>When you see the donkey of one who hates you lying under its burden and you would hold back from setting it free, you must help to set it free.
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>>15014627
>profane Nietzsche would profanely """argue"""
OH NO NO NO NO
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>>15014575
>Was there actually anything remarkable about Jesus aside from being...nice?
He rose from the dead.
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>>15014627
The barbarians that took over became Christian themelves. Rome was on a weak foundation for other reasons, anyways
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>>15014575
Just read the new testament. It's not hard, bro

How do gnostlets and wannabe esotericists cope with this novel? I couldn't actually sniff out the satire until around 2/3 through so I know some occucks have accidentally fallen for the trap and read this thing.


Eco tears these people to shreds in this book. He makes them look like a bunch of fat greasy buffoons. The main character abandons his girlfriend and his son just so he could watch some larpers larp, and Eco made it seem like a pretty normal thing to do considering the circumstances. Eco did his homework and wrote a convincing novel about how pathetic and ego centric esotericists are
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>>15011538
lol at you thinking you're smarter than Eco. Dumbass
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>>15013411
>This explains nothing, though.
Now you're getting it.
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>>15015255
Are you saying hating gnosticism is cringe and bluepilled?
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>>15014609
It's a common denominator, anon. No worship is done in lodges, again, each should take his faith and practice it separately. You can see masonic ritualism as a way to practice and better ouselves, not provide service unto God.

FM aknowledges through GOATU that there is ONE GOD, and countless understandings. The idea isn't to fuse your personal belief (Christian) with another brother's (let's say Islam) but to find thr common denominator and try to appreciate our somewhat relative unity. This doesn't mean that for me Jesus is no longer the Messiah or that I accept Muhammad as a prophet. FM is not perenialism, it is not religion. It recognizes that these subject are under the law of free will, and thus undiscussable. You will not find any debates about religion in any regular lodge.

Also as a note I don't believe a buddhist can be a regular FM if he truly practices buddhism and not some form of deism instead. FM explicitly requires it's adepts to believe in the existence of a Divine Principle and in the immortality of the human soul. Without these all that FM stands for would be empty words. It's ironical that while FM birthed the Enlightenment, today it's one of the last fortresses where atheism and materialism are shunned

To understand the mindset of FM you need just to try and put yourself in the place of another unlike you. Do you believe another human being will end in flames or should be persecuted just for having another spiritual linguistic, historical and conceptual framework other than yours? Maybe some saints truly existed in Sufism as well and taught unconditional love and compassion; would they be holy unto another god? GOATU is about professing empathy towards another. I will give you one final example: There is a tale about a man who was walking on the moutains in a terrible blizzard. Walking as he was he saw something through the weather which seemed a big stone. Nearing closer his eyes focused and he saw it was an animal. Arriving close to him he realized it was his Brother.
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I'd imagine anyone with some reasoning skills would see it's a work of satire

last one hit three hunnid
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Fuck, I went to /lit/ again for my yearly check and it's still full of actual retards like every year and I can have better moral and philosophical conversations with random coomers in random threads on /gif/ than with these maladjusted psychotic pseuds.
How can anyone read so much and still be so entrenched in the infantile faux-intellectual generic Marxist grumblings their soft-headed teachers fed them in their youth?
Why do they all want a piece of another man's success rather than making their own, if they think themselves so competent and individualistic?
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what is that image
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>>15014933
thanks bruv, you too. the sky is unreal today
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I couldn't get a job before the pandemic, so how am I supposed to get one now? I'll have to borrow money from my parents. I do nothing all day but write things no one reads.
>>15016205
what's your imaginary friend's name?
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Is soup the ultimate food? I can make a lot of it at a time. Very different soups can be made. It warms up easily. It's easy to make. You can put almost anything in it. It can keep you hydrated.

I'm going to make soup later today after I shop.

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books that changed your life?
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>>15016722
Atlas Shrugged
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>>15016724
Most are soulless hedonists who only live for attention from males until they have a kid. Then the kid and pleasure is all they live for.

t.incel soon to be wizard
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>>15016722
sauce
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>>15016722
looks like wax dripped on her
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>>15016724
They're sperm receptacles, I'm not sure what you expect them to be like. This girl is rather ugly and an seems to be an anglo so I wonder how disgusting the man who unloaded into her face was. Truly a repugnant mental image. Tolkien was right about raising a daughter y'know, imagine if this was your offspring, I'd probably kill her with my bare hands and throw her into some river, never to mourn her.

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What is your perfect book (that does not exist yet) about?
What would it be about, what would you get out of it?
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>>15015551
Lauterbrunnen
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>>15015903
imagine living your life like this
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>>15016697

I'm doing well, and I only want what is best for everyone, which is why I wrote what I did.
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>>15016702
you could have any book you wanted, but what you want is to tell people what they believe in is wrong.

either you're so arrogant, and think you're so much smarter than those poor religious people, you're so bitter that you want to take faith from the people who have it, or you're so naive as to think religion is the only source of evil in the world.

If you only want what's best for everyone, you would have wrote something like "a self-help book on communication and personal happiness that actually works", but that's not your motivation.
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>>15012432
It would be about a man in a lifelong struggle with pedophilia. Not wanting to act on it, because he knows that it's morally wrong and hurts people, but he still occasionally has these desires popping up in his head.

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Literature says a man cannot be free because he either has a family or sexual urges. Take into account my case
>I'm basically a sensory-let, I don't even normally feel hungry, the TV volume normies put sounds like a concert to me
>I like women for their aesthetics. I don't really have an urge to fuck them
>It's not about "Muh nofap" or "Muh stoicism" I literally have zero drive to escalate relationship to that level
>I don't enjoy fapping either. I used to fap to seduction, tease, basically "plot" rather than the sex part
>Ratchet women can turn me on though
>I try sleeping with said ratchet women but I cannot even get horny. The best I can take from them is a blowjob
Am I free or into another level of autism. Any book that shows people living like this.
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>>15016716
You're free.

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Why do women read this crap?
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>>15016617
what is mein kampf about?
how good is it when i want to be like hitler?
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Why women?
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>>15016629
its about 720 pages
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>>15016599
This, since she unintentionally made it clear she doesn't have an actual kid and has to imagine one
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>>15016525
As you approach a more "pure" expression of sociopathy, so too do you approach a single meta-individual. There is an underlying pattern-mind that isn't actually conscious which all sociopathic people have in common as the basis of their Self. Strip away our memories and the false identities we have built on them, and yes, I am you and you are me. Rather, we are both instances of the same pattern.

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>For all intensive purposes
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>>15016316
>he should of payed closer attention
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>>15016316
Trump is using immigrants as an escape goat.
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>>15016316
the fact that people can't get these simple phrases right is mind bottling
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>>15016703
I could care less about this sort of thing
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>>15016316
>irregardless

Atheism is just modern day stoics ...
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>>15016167
Humans created gods, they thought of them, they describe them, they use them to describe things that they don't understand.

Stop with your creationists babble. At the end of the day, MEN infallible human beings gave you the idea, and creation, and teachings of gods. Not gods themselves, not one book, scripture, etc, was ever written or publicized by a god.

Here is food for thought, instead of trying to dismantle science, why not prove it, because you aren't doing a good fucking job at it, and in the sense of philosophy, religion is shit.
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>>15016187
>dodging the question again
>and again
>b-but humans create idols
yes, idols are blasphemy in my worldview because I have a standard of objective truth, logic, and morality.

Looks like you just tapped out, see ya
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no omg. no . pls delet however you can. delet now. this thread needs to be destroyed. how retarded can you be? delet
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>>15015817
This thread should be burned to the ground. Why clutter up the only good board on this site with this kind of retarded shit.
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>>15016167
While the lack of god(s) doesn't simply prove we can't reach conclusions about the world there is a lot of discussion about this in philosophy, many post modernist, and some modern, authors agree with you and reject rationalism.
Anyway if you are interested in how we can acquire knowledge in a world without god(s) you should try reading some philosophy of science.
Personally, I'm an agnostic who think the most likely possibility is atheism, for ethics I would reccomend you to read Stirner or Nietzche, they work with the nihilism you are getting at, and for knowledge I'm even simpler to me, I trust scientific discoveries because they are practical and have been working all my life even though I have no objective way to prove things will keep working this way, and for logic and reasoning I just follow what I feel is right, whatever argument is most compelling to me.
Yes, it's not perfect but it's practical.

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I respect Jordan Peterson, only post-modern marxists trannies seethe when confronted to him.
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>>15016567
only "argument" these nutjobs ever give you: if you don't believe in our cool-aid we must do everything to character assassinate you
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>>15016609
>character assassinate you
How is me addressing him refusing to address the issue when directly asked in a public forum a character assassination?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAqcge10Mfc
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>>15016650
He can't respond because he's very disingenuous about the issue.
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>>15016650
He dealt with this very professionally in my opinion.
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>>15016725
Whoever made this can't even write the character 商 correctly.

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>Violence is the supreme authority from which all other authorities are derived.

Try to debate this. I fucking dare you.
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>>15015844
What people value neglects the symbolic importance of an official political concern with issues or problems, as a way of marking their importance or urgency, and hence of expressing, intensifying, channeling, encouraging, and validating our private actions and concerns toward them.
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>power is the supreme authority from which all other authorities are derived.
fixed that for you
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>>15015945
Power is just a form of authority and is preceded by violence or the threat of violence.
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>>15014721
Paraphrasing, but:
>Harm, by definition, is the removal of quality. Therefore, all harm done results in a lower quality existence for all beings, including the being preforming it. Also, any organization, any group, must operate on some level of peace, or they'd be destroying each other. Gangs of villains would murder each other if they were completely bad. If a beings body was without co-operation, the cells wouldn't work together.
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That's not the heart of the issue. Don't bother unless you go straight for the core issue. Your head will just explode or you'll become a smug redditor.


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