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The 2020 election just keeps getting worse for house democrats.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-2020-election-just-keeps-getting-worse-for-house-democrats/
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>>737849
https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud
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>>737853
>>737853
1,125
Criminal convictions

Well done. Trump could have had some hundred more votes. That's not enough though. Try mathematics. If a person is losing by millions of votes, does he win even if he gets like 80 percent of those fraudulent votes. Can't be too hard of a math problem even for a smoothbrain like you.

And fucking Heritage lol. You should stop reading manipulative shit for your own sake. The millionaires and billionaires aren't on your side even though they have manipulated successfully to think you that they are.
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>>737839
Then why are they doing so badly in the house and senate elections?
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>>737853
>Heritage
lol

>>737839
>fuck ton
Not in evidence

>fake ballots
Not in evidence.

>dead people voting
No fucktons here

>alzheimer's people "voting"

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>>737989
Some of the stuff that WAS "in evidence" turned out to be hilariously wrong, like several of the "dead people voting" turned out to be quite alive and well, they just happned to share a name with a dead person.

Apparently nobody considered the possibility that, after Maria A. died, there could be some other Maria A still alive in the united states. Like names just get retired after someone dies and nobody can have the same name afterward.

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Holy shit, zoomers are doing something right for once. Fuck sports!
>On any given night, in living rooms across America, the television could be tuned to the big game, mom and dad glued to the action, children nearby. But as most any parent can attest, those children are likely to be virtually somewhere else - an app, a game, a social media feed, perhaps, lost in a smartphone where the scrolling never ends. The big game serves as background noise, if that.

>The bulky and bankable U.S. sports industry, built on towers of cash and lucrative television contracts, is confronting a Generation Z problem. The nation's youngest cohort is fundamentally different from the generations that preceded it. Having grown up with smartphones in their pockets, its members eschew traditional television viewing and subscribe to digital habits that make grooming a new generation of sports fans a challenge.

>That challenge is being met with a sense of urgency in some corners of the sports world and a sense of alarm in others, according to team and league officials, social scientists, research analysts and marketing specialists who focus on Generation Z. Failing to hook young people might not devastate today's bottom line, but it threatens to muddle the future of every league, every team and every sport.

>"If you lose a generation, it destroys value and the connective tissue," said Ted Leonsis, principal owner of Washington-based teams that compete in the NBA, NFL and WNBA. "It's what some of the big sports leagues are nervous about. Could we lose a generation because we didn't give them access and the products and services they want?"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/11/24/gen-z-sports-fans/
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>>737977
And correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't American sports on TV mostly just fucking ads and replays? The only people who like sports these days are the kind of faggots who screams WE DID IT when overpaid atheletes, or unpaid student atheletes win a game, like this fat drunk fuck did anything other than shart his pants accidentally when he waved his ham-fists at the screen and squealed piglike at the referee.
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>retarded fags aimlessly play ball
>adult entertainment
>humans failed
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>>737972
True. We need underage trans beauty pageants to replace toxic masculinity.
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>>737899
>>737904

Black Lives Matter advocacy pisses off boomers and a couple of edgy reactionaries online, not the same zoomers who support those movements. They just don't care about watching football or baseball when they could be watching competitive League of Legends or Fortnite instead.
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>>738001
Correct.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/2020/11/one-in-six-could-go-hungry-2020-as-covid-19-persists
Early one morning in mid-November, Trisha Cunningham, the president of North Texas Food Bank, arrived at a sprawling fairground in southern Dallas that hosts the annual Texas State Fair. Four lines of cars snaked for miles, from the entrance toward the skyscrapers downtown. Some of the drivers had arrived the night before and slept in their cars, waiting for a box of food that would help get them through Thanksgiving.

By the end of this year, more than 50 million people could experience food insecurity, according to Feeding America, the country’s largest hunger-relief organization. That’s one in six Americans and one in four children—nearly a 50 percent increase from 2019. A Northwestern University study in June found that food needs had doubled nationally, and tripled for households with children. The pandemic has laid bare how many people are one paycheck or medical bill away from hunger.

In October, Feeding America’s network of food banks and pantries distributed some 548 million meals, up 52 percent from an average month before the pandemic. In November, with the holidays approaching, it may be more. When the fairgrounds gates opened in Dallas, volunteers waved cars through rows of orange cones to receive a 15-pound box of produce, dry goods, a frozen turkey, and a loaf of bread. In a typical year, the North Texas Food Bank holiday distribution serves around 500 people. This year, when the gates closed, they’d sent 8,500 people home with more than half a million pounds of food. Before the pandemic, the food bank’s clientele were largely employed people who needed extra help to make ends meet. Now, many of them told Cunningham they’d lost their jobs. And a third of those being served, she estimates, had never needed assistance before.

“People are seeing hunger like they’ve never seen it before,” she says.
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>>737955
>What the fuck happened to "believe science"
That's not how it works.
>you retard
>fag
Why so mad? Did mommy take your video games away?
>The rich left NYC due to left wing violence done by BLM and Antifa.
Wrong again. Repeating your dumb lies ad nauseam won't miraculously make them true, you know?
First, having enough reserves to retreat for a year or five doesn't make you rich. It just makes you not poor. Go find a job. Second, the human rights protests are no threat. The pandemic with the tens of millions of infected is the threat. I know you can't understand that simple fact, but it's true.
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>>737719
China should use the opportunity to send food aid to the famished people of America.
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>>737722
You always fucking do this
You blame the other side but never actually address the issue
No wonder everyone is sick of you Republicans and Democrats
You would rather watch the world burn then actually step the fuck up
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>>737897
what do guns and slavery have to do with putting food on the table?
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>>737958
> if you are homeless you are unable to earn money
Cool story bro.

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>Six weeks ago, Facebook announced a ban on Holocaust denial. It’s still easy to find.
>As of Wednesday afternoon, one of the first results in a Facebook search for “Holohoax” — a term popular with Holocaust deniers — was a post decrying “Zionist White Jewish Supremacist Child murdering Apartheid State, Talmudic Satanic Holohoax promoters.”

>Right below it was a video, posted by a group with more than 6,000 followers, captioned “Research: Holohoax and Jew world order.”

>These results showed up six weeks after Facebook announced that it was banning Holocaust denial and distortion across its platforms, including Instagram…

https://www.jta.org/2020/11/25/united-states/six-weeks-ago-facebook-announced-a-ban-on-holocaust-denial-its-still-easy-to-find
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Yes. Disinfo needs to be controlled before it causes millions more to die. Why is this news?
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>>737985
it has already been declassified that no holocaust took place and it was just a psy-op to demoralize germany and to try to make it look like the germans were the bad guys when the allies and russians committed all the war crimes, targeted civilian population areas for bombing ignoring legitimate military targets, and in russia's case committed genocide through gulags arranged famines
see the original declassified documents
or see sykewar written by psyops people of the time
or look at jewish historian David Cole's research before mossad's constant death threats and beatings made him recant
the germans were innocent people framed with false confessions extracted with the worst torture and fake evidence like zika heads from africa from a university exhibit on disease and items claimed to be made from human remains that were later proven to just be cow leather and such
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>>737759
Id date them
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>>738010
Stfu conspiratard, if your gonna spew bullshit post sources that are verifiable
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http://www.psywarrior.com/OSSBlackOpsPC.html
http://www.psywarrior.com/Cornflakes2.html
https://www.psywar.org/sauerkraut.php
https://lawcollections.library.cornell.edu/nuremberg
http://www.psywarrior.com/links.html
http://www.psywarrior.com/psyhist.html
https://archive.org/details/psychologicalwar0000lern
https://archive.org/details/SykewarPsychologicalWarfareAgainstNaziGermany

Was scientist’s killing the opening shot of a Trump-led war on Iran?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/nov/28/was-scientists-killing-the-opening-act-of-a-trump-led-war-on-iran

DIS DUDE AINT A LEADER!!!!!

The assassination on Friday of Iran’s leading nuclear scientist has heightened suspicions t hat Donald Trump, in cahoots with hardline Israeli and Saudi allies, may be trying to lure the Tehran regime into an all-out confrontation in the dying days of his presidency. Trump’s four-year-long Iranian vendetta is approaching a climax – and he still has the power and the means to inflict lasting damage.
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>>738007
Mr. President if you're reading this, please nuke Los Angeles and New York City. Also south Chicago and Atlanta if you have time.
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>>738011

UNFORTUNATELY t-Rump CANNOT READ
SO CALL t-Rump DIRECTLY:

Write or Call the White House | The White House

Call the President. PHONE NUMBERS Comments: 2024561111

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https://thehill.com/homenews/news/527734-dont-talk-to-me-that-way-trump-lashes-out-at-reporter-over-election-question
President Trump lashed out at a reporter during a pool spray Thursday, calling the journalist a "lightweight" after the president was pressed about his election defeat.

Reuters White House correspondent Jeff Mason repeatedly asked Trump if he would concede the election to Joe Biden if the Electoral College votes in favor of Biden, eventually asking Trump to just answer the question. Trump responded firmly, "Don't talk to me that way."

Trump interrupted as the reporter attempted to interject and apologize, saying, "I'm the president of the United States. Don't ever talk to the president that way," before Trump said he would move on to someone else's question.
Before addressing Mason directly, Trump began to provide a lengthy response to the question, during which he reiterated his claims of election fraud and compared the election to one in a third-world country.

Trump has engaged with Mason before. In September, the two had an exchange during which the president requested that Mason remove his mask while asking a question, which the reporter declined to do.

The pool spray, in which the White House invites reporters to observe and sometimes ask questions of the president, marked the first time Trump has taken questions from press since Biden was announced president-elect earlier this month.
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>>737911
>>737910
>>737909
>>737907
Holy shit. Anyone else would be locked into a straight jacket and administered a Thorazine drip. That is completely unhinged.

I clicked through and watched some of the video, too. It's much worse then the mere words on a screen can convey. He's experiencing a complete psychotic breakdown. You can watch it progress from the beginning to the end, just keeps spiraling down and down into incoherent gibbering.
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>>737942
> That is completely unhinged.
That's why he's so popular with his base, he acts so much like them that they see in him an affirmation that they can behave the way they want to and still get as far as the White House. It's become little different from a cult.
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>>737738
>This is a well documented tactic of the federal government
It's also a well documented tactic of right wing terrorist militia cells, and they've actually killed more people than any other domestic terror group. The idea that every foiled plot is a hoax and every successful one is a false flag is the peak of denial.
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>>737868
No its the assertion that the fbi are repeat offenders of manufacturing terrorist plots by entrapment.
It is no different than not believing a crack addict trying to sell you a car radio didnt steal said radio.

https://web.archive.org/web/20080128131937/https:/www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/18137343/the_fear_factory

h ttps://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article135871988.html

I dont know how you can listen to this guy and not agree that hes mentally ill.
He literally sounds like sam hyde going on about how he would defend himself against lena dunham or reporters outside their homes.
https://eu.detroitnews.com/videos/news/local/michigan/2020/10/17/caserta-threatening-to-take-out-thugs/3693400001/

And obviously the defense is playing the crazy card but one should point out the fbi had two agents who completely infiltrated the team and yet their evidence consists of ideas being thrown around and withmer being "left out in the middle of a lake"?
This sounds more like they dont have a lot of evidence that doesnt tie back to their entrapment and have to work with scraps.
https://eu.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/10/13/whitmer-kidnap-plot-defense-adam-fox-kaleb-franks/3639980001/

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>>737979
if god were a slob like one of us

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Sigh... he's definitely getting acquitted.
>Kyle Rittenhouse, in a jailhouse interview, said he used stimulus money to get a gun. The first man he shot had just left a psychiatric hospital.

>In a summer roiled by protests for racial justice, Kenosha, Wis., moved into the national spotlight in August after a White police officer shot a Black man named Jacob Blake seven times in the back.

>Peaceful protests during the day were followed by rioting and civil unrest at night. Just before midnight on Aug. 25, tensions peaked when a 17-year-old named Kyle Rittenhouse shot and killed 36-year-old Joseph Rosenbaum. Moments later, Rittenhouse shot two other men, one fatally.

>Rittenhouse was arrested and charged with multiple counts of homicide and weapons offenses, but right-wing groups have rallied to his cause, celebrating him as a hero who sought to protect Kenosha from destructive rioting and who fired in self-defense. The events have become a litmus test for a deeply divided nation.

>A Washington Post examination of video and police records, along with other documents, sheds new light on the mindsets of the two people principally involved - one a gun enthusiast who thought of himself as a medic, the other a homeless man with a criminal record who was discharged that day from a psychiatric hospital.

>The Post found that Rittenhouse, who was too young to buy a rifle, had arranged for an adult friend to buy the weapon for him using money Rittenhouse had received from a government stimulus program.

>The Post interviewed Rittenhouse, who spoke publicly for the first time since his arrest. He said he did not regret that he had a gun that night. "I feel I had to protect myself," he said. "I would have died that night if I didn't."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2020/11/19/kenosha-shooting-kyle-rittenhouse-interview/
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>>736492
If you're not an American then it's really not clear why you're running your mouth off about a legal system you don't know jack shit about.
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>>733430
He violated police curfew, and Wisconsin law states that one cannot plea self-defense if their illegal conduct lead up to the altercation
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>>737336
>939.48(2)(a) (a) A person who engages in unlawful conduct of a type likely to provoke others to attack him or her and thereby does provoke an attack is not entitled to claim the privilege of self-defense against such attack, except when the attack which ensues is of a type causing the person engaging in the unlawful conduct to reasonably believe that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm.

Self-defense privilege is not affected by illegal activity unless you were doing something which was likely to provoke an attack (which breaking curfew is not) and even then it only raises the bar to "feared death or great bodily harm", which is already the standard under which he was going to be judged since it is the standard for the deployment of lethal force.
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>>737339
You can write that up and send it to him when he gets to prison, your great words of wisdom will no doubt be really soothing in between daily buttblastings.
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>>737336
>and Wisconsin law states that one cannot plea self-defense if their illegal conduct
[citation needed]

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>https://apnews.com/article/gun-politics-scott-tipton-shootings-1534f121e3944ad26bb87c6e7fd13808
BASED
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It's more likely that she'd get disarmed and have it used against her than for her to legitimately use it.
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>>737589
They (Sen. Evie Hudak) said the same thing to Amanda Collins after she was raped on a college parking lot - less than a hundred yards away from the campus police station - where she wasn't allowed to carry a gun.

And that's bullshit. Maybe the guy would have took her gun and used it against her (either way she got raped). OR maybe he would have got shot - and not lived to rape another woman and then rape and murder one more girl before he finally got thrown in jail AGAIN.

But thanks to fucking faggots like you who want to ban guns everywhere...
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>>737589
>It's more likely that she'd get disarmed and have it used against her than for her to legitimately use it.
Got any evidence for that, fag?
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>>737589
Statistically this is false, you stupid fuck
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>>737589
Do you have a source for this?

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What is happening now in Paris cannot be called anything other than a massacre. Groups of anarchists, which had split up, concentrating not only on large areas, were hunted down by the police. They are generously watered from water cannons, despite the fact that it is very cold outside, but this does not cool the ardor of shareholders. The confrontation between the protesters and the police turns into a kind of cat and mouse.

Due to the endless use of tear gas, the police themselves lose formation, get confused in the smoke and add chaos to what is happening. Involuntarily breaking up into small groups, law enforcement officers are often targeted by anarchist groups. They are hit with sticks, stones, bottles and other revolutionary props. In such a situation, the police no longer think about maintaining law and order, but only try to protect themselves. Nevertheless, about forty law enforcement officers have already received various injuries, many of them seriously wounded.

The riots are spreading into small streets that give the impression of being bombed. Absolutely everything has been destroyed, shop windows and overturned cars are burning, garbage cans give off a stench.

Observers note the good coherence of the actions of the protesters, the proven technique of their maneuvers. This is not the first time they have trashed Paris with luxury cars, shops and restaurants, banks and offices. Today the Bank of France has come under another attack, its facade has been set on fire, and this time not by a crazy "artist", but by bandit groups.

https://www.vesti.ru/article/2491805
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>>737860

thank you captain obvious!
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>.ru
Nah. Fuck off with your bloggy manipulative shit.
>cannot be called anything other than a massacre
Fucking lol.

>>737832
>>737860
>>737861
Okay Ivan

Remember to report this thread as blog article.

>inb4 vodkachimps chimping out like the chimps they are
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>>737832
Imagine being so retarded you think a protest in Paris is news. Something that happens like clockwork every week isn’t news, it’s ethnography.
>BREAKING NEWS: GENOCIDE in Paris as strike enters its third day, why genocide? Because it sells newspapers garzone
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>>737980
how many more need to die before you consider it a genocide? 2000 people die every single day in paris and this isnt enough for you?
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Generous Massacre II: Water Cannons of Death.
>Televised.

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https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/11/largest-ever-research-integrity-survey-flounders-universities-refuse-cooperate?utm_campaign=news_daily_2020-11-25&et_rid=330717169&et_cid=3573310

The world’s largest multidisciplinary survey on research integrity is in danger of falling short of its goals after two-thirds of invited institutions declined to collaborate, citing the sensitivity of the subject and fearing negative publicity. That left researchers leading the DutchNational Survey on Research Integrityon their own to scrape many email addresses and solicit responses. The survey will close on 7 December, but the team has gathered responses from less than 15% of 40,000 targeted participants.

“It was supposed to be a collaborative effort, but it ended up as a satellite on its own in the Solar System, trying to send out signals,” says Gowri Gopalakrishna, a postdoctoral researcher at the Amsterdam University Medical Center (AUMC) who is coordinating the €800,000 survey.

Lex Bouter, who studies research methods and integrity at the Free University of Amsterdam (VU), began to plan the survey in 2016 to address a lack of data about questionable research practices and scientific misconduct. He wanted to ask all working academics in the Netherlands not just about how they conduct their research, but also about work habits, pressures, and other aspects of academic life. Bouter, a former VU president himself, assured the heads of other universities that the survey would not generate an institutional ranking of misbehavior.
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>>737506
The participating universities helped Gopalakrishna by providing staff email addresses and sending reminders to fill out the questionnaire. To get responses from researchers at the 10 other institutions, Gopalakrishna and her colleagues had to scrape email addresses and send out the surveys unannounced. “This resulted in many more bounced and unopened emails,” she says.

Even some researchers at the collaborating institutions, wary of phishing scams, didn’t open their emails, says AUMC epidemiologist Gerben ter Riet, a co-investigator on the survey. “Researchers are flooded with emails and flooded with surveys,” he says. “It’s extremely difficult to stand out with something legitimate.”

As of 24 November, 13.3% of researchers affiliated with collaborating institutions had responded to the request, versus 9.5% of those at noncollaborating institutions.

After 7 December, the team will have to determine how representative the sample is. Bouter still expects it will be of value. “I am kind of disappointed about the proceedings, but with over 5000 completed surveys this still is the largest survey so far.”
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>>737505
My sister is a doctor and they had a talk at their last congress about the 50% replication rate of 2/3 papers that were peer reviewed in the year before.q

They werent interested at all in talking about booting social sciences from the peer reviewal process who produced the studies but on how to frame the topic so that the public "doesnt lose faith in the integrity of the academic community as a whole".
Just to reiterate a 50% replication rate is the worst possible outcome because it proves that your theory has absolutley nothing to do with the subject matter at hand.

Btw just so you guys heard the nonsense before their solution is to claim that this two third mayority of papers are isolated cases of rare diseases that simply cant be replicated reliably because there are only a handful of patients with these afflictions worldwide and that a rejection of the process of peer reviewal were conspiratorial and an inherently anti science sentiment.

It comes as no suprise to anyone that 85% of the academic institutions outright refused to participate in the survey in any capacity.
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>>737611
>3rd hand anecdote
>someone heard about someone talking about something
>unspecified meeting
>unspecified timeframe
>unspecified topic
>asspull a number
>about another number that was asspulled
>"they" weren't interested in something
>"they" said something
>on a topic unrelated to "their" profession
>about all these "studies"
>that "framed their topics"
>in a conspiracy to fool "the public"
>with obscure "research" papers that "the public" will never know about

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>>737611
Did you have a stroke while writing this? I can’t even understand what the point you’re trying to make is
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>>737898
Yes a literal anecdote. I never said you can quote me and nobody said this were a conspiracy. It literally cant be one if its held at a medical congress because its not secret. Its not about medical papers either you retard but the process of peer reviewal losing credibility due to non scientific fields being flooded with people who have to falsify their papers to graduate.
Also yes its a given that to diasolve the basis for many a persons academic career would be undesireable and until a solution is found the proplem is not to be exacerbated by telling the public that the boundries between academia and the unwashed/unverified masses is about as stable as you appear while you had that fit on your keyboard.
>>737982
>I can’t even understand what the point you’re trying to make is
Its called the replication crisis sweetie and im sure you will understand it some day.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis

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ANDY HUANG, WHO SERVES AS CORE INFRASTRUCTURE MANAGER OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AT DOMINION VOTING SYSTEMS, PREVIOUSLY WORKED AT CHINA TELECOM, THE NATIONAL PULSE CAN REVEAL.

China Telecom is wholly run by the Chinese government, and has been identified by the U.S. Department of Defense as having collaborated with the country’s military for over two decades.

Similarly, the Department of Justice flagged the firm for “concerns that China Telecom is vulnerable to exploitation, influence, and control by the Chinese government” and how “the nature of China Telecom’s U.S. operations” provide “opportunities for Chinese state-actors to engage in malicious cyber activity enabling economic espionage and disruption and misrouting of U.S. communications.”

Huang, who fulfills the critical technology role at Dominion, worked at the Chinese firm from 1998 to 2002.

Tasks which Huang assisted with include the “Xiamen IDC Project,” the “Xiamen Metropolitan-are broadband network,” and the “OA Intranet infrastructure reformation project.”

https://thenationalpulse.com/news/dominion-techie-worked-for-ccp-military-proxy-flagged-by-u-s-govt-for-malicious-cyber-activity/
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>>737681
>it's not voting out when people opt for the/a opposition party
semantics is beside the point
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>>736754
Is there any evidence he modified Dominion voting machine technology to somehow steal votes from Trump or add to Biden?
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>>737984
Why would he need to do that in order to give CCP access to the exact specifications, modules, chips, firmware and software used by Dominion. Also the memsticks to these machines were stolen days before election day:
https://www.inquirer.com/politics/election/philadelphia-election-trump-equipment-stolen-usb-laptop-20200930.html

Anyone who knows anything about computers knows every election that uses voting machines is so vulnerable to data manipulation it might as well be an open invite for malicious actors to interfere, that's why real elections never use computers for anything be it voting or counting. Looks like the entire election has to be done over, this time using paper ballots observable from casting to (manual) counting. It's an extraordinary measure but until we drive the last senile boomer who thinks voting computers are acceptable out of office there's just no other way to guarantee free and fair elections and they'll steal elections every single time.
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>>737711
No, I am saying that the US regime routinely invents external threats as distraction from the internal problems it has no intention to solve.
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>>737711
russiagate was internal though... unless youre saying the trump administration is an external power?

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China criticized Pope Francis on Tuesday over a passage in his new book in which he mentions suffering by China’s Uighur Muslim minority group.

Foreign ministry spokesperson Zhao Lijian said Francis’ remarks had “no factual basis at all.”

“People of all ethnic groups enjoy the full rights of survival, development, and freedom of religious belief,” Zhao said at a daily briefing.

Zhao made no mention of the camps in which more than 1 million Uighurs and members of other Chinese Muslim minority groups have been held. The U.S. and other governments, along with human rights groups, say the prison-like facilities are intended to divide Muslims from their religious and cultural heritage, forcing them to declare loyalty to China’s ruling Communist Party and its leader, Xi Jinping.

China, which initially denied the existence of the facilities, now says they are centers intended to provide job training and prevent terrorism and religious extremism on a voluntary basis.

In his new book “Let Us Dream,” due Dec. 1, Francis listed the “poor Uighurs” among examples of groups persecuted for their faith.

Francis wrote about the need to see the world from the peripheries and the margins of society, “to places of sin and misery, of exclusion and suffering, of illness and solitude.”

In such places of suffering, “I think often of persecuted peoples: the Rohingya, the poor Uighurs, the Yazidi--what ISIS did to them was truly cruel--or Christians in Egypt and Pakistan killed by bombs that went off while they prayed in church,” Francis wrote.

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>>737539
China is not a person. Nothing wrong with criticizing both China and the US, no matter who you are. That's retarded.
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China knows the only thing that muslims understand is violence.
Its how the british dealt with them as well, communal punishment. If you know your entire village will be rounded up for suicide bombs, you'll report the extremists.
If you know the extremists will butcher you in the night for speaking out, but the government WON'T for refusing to oppose the extremists, then you hide and shelter the terrorists.
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>>737580
In addition to "what he said", already mentioned that my family oft uses "Happy Amer-Indian Extermination Day" in place of the traditional greet, but the internment camps on our border of course came up in discussion (where, reportedly, some have been sterilized), as did the potential gun grabbing, in addition to various evils various corporations, some of which they have major stakes in or outright own, are doing.

Doesn't matter who or whose government is doing the evil, you point it out, or it not only goes ignored, but becomes acceptable.

Plus you get guys like this (>>737712) willing to end the right to life for a large swath of his population, due to a couple of dramatic instances, who is probably also 2nd amendment supporter, and doesn't realize that he's doing the same thing that the anti-gun crowd is,in response to the occasional dramatic school shooting. Even in Israel, which sees more islamic terrorist attacks than any other country, you are several times more likely to be killed by a lightning strike than a terrorist attack.

>China is not a person.
Less true when you have a king in charge. One word from Xi could end this shit. Granted, we've pretty much turned our office of the presidency into a throne that cycles out every four to eight years (a limit which may yet be removed, and if it isn't, can only hope the new lame duck that's on it realizes what's going to happen when one of his rivals takes it, and is up to the task of dismantling some of that).
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>>737819
By China is not a person I meant that criticism against China should not be taken personally. A large part of the zealotry of CCP supporters comes from listening to the state-sponsored media, which encourages a strong sense of oneness with the state. In that regard, the culture of the US is quickly catching up, as news consumers become increasingly selective of partisan news sources, though in your case it occurred naturally by way of capitalism.
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Family is fairly divided among the wings, which is why we get "Amer-Indian Extermination" and "Corporations are ebil!" at the same table, and thus no shortage of folks pointing out evils, both at home or abroad.

But of Americans in general, that tends to be what they dislike about the CCP most, its aspiration to be a harmonious hivemind (despite the fact that so many Americans want everyone who doesn't think just like them dead). But yes, here, we're down to two hiveminds, that really don't disagree on more than a half-dozen things, even though they treat one another as if all their members are the demon spawn of Satan.

Nonetheless, in China's case, there's only one place for the buck to stop, with but a word. It's true, a president in the US whose party controls of one chamber and the courts can do anything in this country, but it at least involves a lot of court battles, even if it's just to stop something. And, currently, consequences come election time, but I dunno how much longer that's going to last.

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Trump supporter who gave $2.5m to fight election fraud wants money back

A Donald Trump supporter who donated $2.5m to help expose and prosecute claims of fraud in the presidential election wants his money back after what he says are “disappointing results”.

Fredric Eshelman, a businessman from North Carolina, said he gave the money to True the Vote, a pro-Trump “election ethics” group in Texas that promised to file lawsuits in seven swing states as part of its push to “investigate, litigate, and expose suspected illegal balloting and fraud in the 2020 general election”.

But according to a lawsuit Eshelman filed this week in Houston, first reported by Bloomberg, True the Vote dropped its legal actions and discontinued its Validate the Vote 2020 campaign, then refused to return his calls when he demanded an explanation.

The founder of Eshelman Ventures llc, a venture capital company, said he asked “regularly and repeatedly” for updates, the lawsuit asserts, but that his “requests were consistently met with vague responses, platitudes, and empty promises”.

The lack of success of True the Vote’s efforts to challenge the outcome appears to mirror that of the president himself, whose team has lost 38 court actions since the 3 November election, most recently in Pennsylvania where a federal appeals court panel blasted Trump’s legal team for filing a case with no merit.

True the Vote did not immediately return an email from the Guardian seeking comment. True the Vote did not respond to Bloomberg’s request for comment, but posted a statement on its website, attributed to the group’s founder and president, Catherine Engelbrecht, seeking to blame outside forces for the failure of its efforts.
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You laugh you loose thread.
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Damn what a waste of money.
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>>737976
>Damn, what a waste of a human being.
FTFY, no charge.
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>>737967
>only smart people get ric-

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After one man was snatched off the street for tracking protests online, he spent four years in custody and remains under close police watch

By Chun Han Wong
Nov. 27, 2020 11:56 am ET

On a summer day in 2016, a posse of men surrounded Lu Yuyu on a street in China’s southwestern city of Dali. He said they wrestled him into a black sedan and slid a shroud over his head. His girlfriend was pushed into a second car, screaming his name.

Mr. Lu had for years posted a running online tally of protests and demonstrations in China that was closely read by activists and academics around the world, as well as by government censors. That made him a target.

While China’s Communist Party has long punished people seen as threats to its rule, government authorities under Chinese leader Xi Jinping have engaged in the most relentless pursuit of dissenters since the crackdown on the 1989 Tiananmen Square pro-democracy protests, according to academics and activists.

“Over the past eight years under Xi, authorities have become hypersensitive to the publicizing of protests, social movements and mass resistance,” said Wu Qiang, a former politics lecturer at Beijing’s Tsinghua University.

“Lu’s data provided a window into social trends in China,” Mr. Wu said, and that made him a threat to the party. China Labour Bulletin, a Hong Kong-based group that promotes worker rights, used Mr. Lu’s posts as the primary source for its “Strike Map,” an interactive online graphic tallying worker unrest.


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Days later, friends and supporters sensed trouble. Human-rights lawyers learned Mr. Lu and Ms. Li had been accused of “picking quarrels and provoking trouble.” The charge was commonly used for disorderly conduct such as damaging property. In 2013, it was expanded to include online behavior by defining the internet as a public space.

The couple had compiled a data set comprising 67,502 protests that spanned June 2013 to June 2016, according to a 2019 research paper by Zhang Han, now an assistant professor at the Hong Kong University of Science and Technology, and Jennifer Pan, a Stanford University assistant professor who studies authoritarian governance.

Through their blog, Mr. Lu and Ms. Li drew broad attention to protests in China, Ms. Pan said, “which is precisely the information government censors want to suppress.”

After Mr. Lu’s arrest, investigators waved copies of his social-media posts at him. “Why do you collect and publish this information? What’s the purpose?” Mr. Lu recalled an official asking him. He said he was documenting history.

Through the weeks of interrogation, Mr. Lu said, his thoughts often drifted to his girlfriend. He worried about who would take care of their pet, a tomcat named “Little Yellow Fur.”

A interactive ‘Strike Map’ made by Hong Kong-based China Labour Bulletin tracked incidents of worker unrest in China. It used data compiled by Lu Yuyu and Li Tingyu until the couple’s detention in June 2016.
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Prosecutors and police pressed Mr. Lu to plead guilty, which typically is rewarded with a lighter sentence. He said officials brought his father to the detention center hoping to persuade Mr. Lu, but he refused to acknowledge wrongdoing.
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In November 2016, the journalist advocacy group Reporters Without Borders and French television broadcaster TV5Monde jointly awarded Mr. Lu and Ms. Li a press-freedom prize for “their commitment to freely and independently-reported information in China,” work the couple did at a high personal cost.

Officials visited Mr. Lu the following April, he said, to let him know Ms. Li had been convicted and given a suspended sentence. Mr. Lu said officials hoped he, too, would plead guilty. A copy of a Chinese court document related to Mr. Lu’s case, viewed by Journal, said Ms. Li had confessed.

Mr. Lu stood trial in June 2017. Prosecutors accused him of spreading false information. Mr. Lu, who denied wrongdoing, was convicted and sentenced to four years. His appeals were denied, according to court records.

In prison, Mr. Lu lived in a 12-man cell and worked 10-hour shifts sewing jeans, skirts and other apparel. He was paid the equivalent of a few dollars a month, he said.

Prison life wore on Mr. Lu. Last year, he suffered hallucinations and bouts of paranoia, he said. Prison officials offered counseling, but his symptoms persisted. About two months before his release, Mr. Lu said, he received a judicial notice forbidding him from setting foot in Beijing, Shanghai or Xinjiang.

No escape

After leaving prison, Mr. Lu moved in temporarily with his brother in their hometown. Police showed up to get his cellphone number. An official with the police department’s political-security arm would call him to ask where he was and what he was up to.

Mr. Lu moved to an apartment in the city of Zunyi, near his home village. Local police found him within a week, he said. He returned to social media with a new Twitter account, circumventing Chinese internet controls that block the platform. He listed his location as “hell” and posted an account of his detention and trial.
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Mr. Lu tried to track down Ms. Li and eventually reached her mother. She said her daughter had married. Mr. Lu insisted on speaking to Ms. Li, and that night she called, sobbing as she apologized and said she had a new life, Mr. Lu recounted. She couldn’t be reached for comment.

In early August, police issued Mr. Lu a warning for using a virtual private network to circumvent Chinese internet controls. They seized his mobile phone and computer, which were later returned. He said police told him not to speak to news media.

Mr. Lu said he no longer felt safe in Zunyi. A couple of weeks later, he began traveling, first within Guizhou. He posted photos from his trips on social media, including shots of the lush cliffs along Guizhou’s Wuyang River and cattle on a grassy mountain in Fujian province.

Zunyi police kept close track of his whereabouts. An official would call him and ask, “What are you doing?” The phone calls and questions were repeated every time he reached a new city. Mr. Lu knew it was pointless to lie.

In late September, while Mr. Lu was staying at a friend’s apartment in the southern city of Guangzhou, officers called the friend and asked to meet. Mr. Lu then moved to a second friend’s apartment. The following day, police called the second friend who alerted Mr. Lu. It was too late. The officers were already at the door. They had made the call from downstairs.

The officers told Mr. Lu he had to leave Guangzhou. When he refused, they drove him to a police station, collected data from his phone and hauled him to the train station, he said. Hours later, the police texted a request: Send a selfie to prove he had reached his destination.

Police and justice-bureau officials in Zunyi regularly summon Mr. Lu to ask about his plans and warn him against circumventing internet controls.
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While Mr. Lu has enough savings to survive for several months, he said he hopes he can secure a job soon. Police surveillance makes it tough to leave his hometown, where job opportunities are limited. Depression at times keeps him from sleeping more than a couple of hours a night, he said. In late October, his landlord, under pressure from authorities, told him he had to move.

Mr. Lu is comforted by his work documenting tens of thousands of protests, even if he can’t return to that role. “I’d just end up in jail again,” he said. “You can tell people how brave you are, but in reality you wouldn’t achieve anything.”

—Jonathan Cheng contributed to this article.

Write to Chun Han Wong at chunhan.wong@wsj.com
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>>737877

CIA paw with fake stories bullshit. that fuck should try some americunt boot camp or nigga prison before talking shit about China.




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