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>>949682
Conspiracy stuff? Are you denying the ATF fucking raided the Waco compound?

>>949681
>No, I'm saying it cheapens your argument when you appeal to dishonest emotional manipulation to make your point for you. Purposefully trying to instill fear in people and conjure dishonest images of what a policy actually is just makes you look weasley and it weakens your position. My whole point this entire time is that I can argue against a gun buy back program without using cheap scare tactics to do it.
how is it a dishonest emotional appeal to say a program that seizes people's guns via government authority is confiscation when that is literally the fucking definition of confiscation? You are the one making up a retarded arbitrary argument based on your own personal definition.
>But that's not the colloquial understanding of what seize or confiscate means.
it fucking is, you are just trying to say that since it doesn't adhere to your personal definition, which by the way does not conform to the definition found in the dictionary, I am being dishonest
> Making something illegal to own and confiscating them aren't the same things. When someone says the government is CONFISCATING something it clearly implies some kind of active use of force, which a gun buyback program is not.
It does not imply force, it implies seizer based on authority, again the actual definition, not your personal one. Buybacks are forced seizures of guns based on the authority of the government and threat of jail time.
>So I have a question with you that I think will prove you actually agree with my position. When a news story comes out on a left-leaning news website claiming that a police officer EXECUTED a black person or that a specific industry is paying low wages because they're EXPLOITING workers or that migrant children are being put into CONCENTRATION CAMPS, why do you suppose they are using those specific terms and words? Would you say that it's perfectly honest and accurate for the left to frame news like this?
Non Sequitur. I am using the literal definition you faggot

>>949683
>https://www.uslawshield.com/understanding-red-flag-laws-in-new-jersey/

>A judge shall issue the temporary order effective for up to 10 days, during which time a hearing is held in Superior Court. At the hearing for a final ERPO, if the Superior Court finds by a preponderance of the evidence that the respondent poses a significant danger of bodily injury to the respondent’s self or others by having custody or control of, owning, possessing, purchasing, or receiving a firearm, the court shall issue a final ERPO

It took me 5 minutes to find out you were lying. This is exactly the thing I'm talking about. It would be so easy for you to just do some reading and put together some case studies and give an actually sound argument against red flag laws, but instead you just blatantly lie about recently buying guns being a legally sound reason for getting hit with an ERPO. The term "good reason" is not used even once in this entire statute. All you're actually doing is just making anybody who reads your lies not trust anybody who comes out as pro-gun. You just damage your own cause by your inability to be honest.

>>949682
>I'm not doing the WACO/ATF/gish-gallop conspiracy stuff today, anon.
What I gave you wasn't a conspiracy theory. Those were facts.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-05-07/sharp-rise-in-guns-confiscated-under-california-red-flag-law
https://www.californiacarry.org/handguns.html
https://www.ammoland.com/2018/06/prominent-california-farmer-attempts-to-comply-with-law-raided-arrested-charged-with-dozen-felonies/
https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2020/07/28/semi-automatic-weapon-orangevale-neo-nazi-andrew-casarez/

If you're going to dismiss all of this as conspiracy theories then we don't have much to talk about.

>>949686
>It took me 5 minutes to find out you were lying.
nope, you are trying to conflate a FERPO with a TERPO. I was describing a TERPO you faggot. A TERPO requires good reason and they don't interview the person they are confiscating guns from. They then force the person to file their receipt with the court or they are held in contempt and then are railroaded into a FERPO 10 days later where the standard is a civil court standard. Way to go out of your way to prove you don't know what you are talking about
>This is exactly the thing I'm talking about. It would be so easy for you to just do some reading and put together some case studies and give an actually sound argument against red flag laws, but instead you just blatantly lie about recently buying guns being a legally sound reason for getting hit with an ERPO. The term "good reason" is not used even once in this entire statute. All you're actually doing is just making anybody who reads your lies not trust anybody who comes out as pro-gun. You just damage your own cause by your inability to be honest.
Here, I'll pull up a clip of the lawyer who works for US lawshield in NJ and who is the preeminent NJ gun lawyer who got the original ruling against the NJ awb and who currently has a case pending with the SCOTUS has to say
https://gun.lawyer/episode-37-red-flag-law-nightmare-bidens-not-abidin/
That is Evan Nappen, the guy who literally wrote the book on NJ gun laws and has been involved in hundreds of NJ gun law cases as a lawyer and represented people like Ms. Allen

>>949493
>All the pedos rightards defend: otherwise they'd demand their heads

https://rawstory.com/2020/12/gop-candidate-who-pushed-qanon-conspiracy-theory-gets-arrested-for-child/

>GOP candidate (Ben Gibson) who pushed QAnon conspiracy theory gets arrested for child pornography

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2016/oct/13/trump-makes-inappropriate-remarks-about-10-year-old-girl-video (Trump leering at a ten year-old girl: what no normal sane person would so much as think of doing)

>Richard 'Punchable Nazi' Spencer: condones CP
>Andrew Filipino Jailbait' Anglin
>Nathan Larson: white supremacist and pedo: the only way it'll be leaving prison is in a box
>Trump-lover Josh '19 Kids and Counting' Duggar: after motions by defence denied by judge, is now thoroughly fucked, due to possession of some of the worst CP imaginable

https://thedailyedge.substack.com/p/gop-gang-of-pedophiles

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>>949483
>>949526
So a boomer claimed he founded anonymous and then later trolled a social media platform by downloading the prerelease app and getting the url from it, and registering troll accounts, and so he calls the new York times and tells them all this, and now the new York times is reporting that anonymous hacked a Trump website.

Sounds about par for American journalism

>>949572
The NYT has nothing to do with this.

>>949526
>Kirt was always insane
insanely image conscious to be specific, thats what drives him. if someone were to post a link to this thread over there and kirt saw it, he would be here to screech at his detractors in a small matter of time, he can't help himself.

>Meanwhile the stock is still up 800%
Making millionaires over night, thank you daddy Trump

>>949651
Blaming everyone except the person who pulled the trigger on cast members between takes.

>>949660
he did nothing wrong

>>949665
The police already confirmed In reports it was a "prank turned accident"
He absolutely did something wrong, and it starts with not having a modicum of intelligence concerning an object he pontificates like he's an expert over.

>>949668
Biden
Harris
Lower your expectations

With his legislative agenda in limbo if not peril, Biden was this week forced to step in, host both factions at the White House and take a more aggressive role. This gave some Democrats fresh hope of a breakthrough but indicated that he will pare down the $3.5tn package in favor of a more modest proposal, threatening a clean electricity programme that was the centerpiece of his climate strategy.

It also underlined concerns that Biden is yielding to corporate interests on fossil fuels, prescription drug prices and tax increases. Critics say he has become so consumed with the grind of policy sausage-making that he has lost sight of big picture issues dear to his supporters.

Among them is the fate of democracy itself.

Do I think that he supports voting rights? Absolutely. Do I believe that he is willing to use the full power of his office? That’s yet to be seen.

LaTosha Brown
Last week Senate Republicans deployed a procedural rule known as the filibuster to block, for the second time, debate on sweeping reforms that would protect the right to vote. Activists who knocked on doors and raised funds for Biden warn that his failure to prioritize the issue above all others could prove his biggest regret.

LaTosha Brown, co-founder of Black Voters Matter, said: “Do I believe that he’s against voter suppression? Absolutely. Do I think that he supports voting rights? Absolutely. Do I believe that he is willing to use the full power of his office and his administration to ensure that voters that voted for him are not punished for voting for him? That’s yet to be seen.”

In a CNN town hall on Thursday night, Biden signaled support for filibuster reform. But he should have pushed the cause earlier and more forcefully.


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>>949153
Marxism is a way of looking at life through a lens of class conflict, which was the basis of Marx's philosophy. And like it did to Marx, Marxists become obsessed with this magic bullet explanation to the point that they lose the ability to analyze things without blaming class conflict. Marxism can come in many varieties because class is an abstract concept that can be applied in a variety of ways, but the common element is the obsessive need to qualify everything in terms of class.

>>949202

Points for at least trying to explain it.

>>948817
No, he didnt claim to be smart. He is using common fucking sense, maybe you should try it.

>>948834
Congratulations you won by calling him a boomer.

Post name, pic and address so I can send a trophy.

>>949627
Keep waiting until after the panic buying starts to fill your pantry, moron. Fill your pantry now while demand is normal and supply still exists.

He was just following Dick Cheney's order

Good riddance

>>949594
A. you just reposted what I said you literal retard
B. they aren't from gun shows, see https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/suficspi16.pdf. They would be from either gangs from chicago going over state lines and stealing guns or via gang members getting girl friends in Ind and doing illegal straw purchases with them because again nearly all face to face sales of guns used in crimes are between 2 people who know each other.
C. That article is literally 5 and a half years old and when the ATF was asked to release their data on this with a FOIA request the ATF violated the law and refused to comply
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/joe-biden-lied-and-the-atf-is-dragging-its-feet-to-avoid-proving-it/
D. You are the same fucking retard who thought a PoC state meant california was exempt from NICS checks, you literal retard

>>949602
The article is quoting the ATF, moron. Are you saying they are lying?

>>949607
They are lying you fucking retarded faggot.
A. their data was only guns traced to completion, as said in the article, not all guns.
B. Why don't they release the data from the FOIA act if it is true that criminals in human rights denial states get their guns from good states?
C. You know the ATF is also the organization that was embezzling federal funds right? And you believe them?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/whistleblower-atf-bonuses-allege-fraud-waste-abuse/

>>949588
>doubling down on pretending there is no evidence
>still no evidence of people bypassing illinois law

>>949607
yes. The ATF constantly lies and goes out of their way to justify their existence all while ignoring actual crimes they could investigate and make arrests for. However, arresting straw purchasers is actual work compared to getting a list of people who bought a drawing of a drop-in-auto-sear and raiding their house when they're not home, so they prefer to do the latter. Another anon posted BJS statistics in this post >>949602 that show gun shows account for a tiny percentage of crime guns, so yes the agent is lying.

>>949510
>thinks 4chan or the internet is controlled by conservatives
kay

I don't understand why this story makes people angry.

>>949510
4chan is still heavily censored depending on the board, regardless if it is less censored compared to other platforms

>>949484
their algorithm might boost right-wing content but their website obviously boosts left-wing with them going as far as to change their logo to promote blm

>oh noes we're not censoring enough speech
Literally the American left

>>949621
faced with real evidence of republican voter fraud, confused idiot retreats to fantasy evidence of democratic voter fraud

many such cases

>>949621
This
Something like 25,000 people voted from addresses that don't even exist in Arizona
I don't care about one dude voting on behalf of his dead wife that really seems like a drop in the bucket compared to the Democrat voting fraud that happened

>>949625
Proofs?

You don't need critical race theory to teach about the Tulsa race riots. Also history lessons should be about something other than slavery, genocide and holocaust, don't you think? All these upstanding scientists and interesting events in history and you fixate solely on white people being mean to brown people and make that 95% of classes. It is obviously intentional.

These Boomer comics are getting annoying.
I know op is a boomer in his mid 40s but please just don't post an image if all you have is Boomer political cartoons

>>946307

Yep ASML

And Carl Zeiss AG makes the lenses needed for them.

SEIG HEIL

Basically its a matter of being able to educate and skill people to be able to manufacture the huge demand for silicone chips nowadays.

>>946352

Also very much this

>sieg heil

>>946352
Governmental in-fighting is bad for business dusu

Strong names in business remove power from the Chinese government and place it in the given company desu

>>946352
>For actual free market capitalism, China is a better example.
Well worded
Just another reason America is falling behind
Crony capitalism

>>946352
>I trust them to reach full independence from western suppliers in less than ten years.

already done. why do you think muricunts are going to the war with them. China man got way to independent.

>>949415
The Republicans are the worst you don't know how to eat my breath. They don't trust press and not believe news. Our loyal, loyal, reliabed land might be relied on if the deaf. If there is any level, they do not make public things, but they don't do something. I am laughter of Republican and his glorious leaders Donald Trump.

>>949631
>T. Butthurt MAGAt.

>>949633
Well, if this ain't a post by someone who is brainwashed then I don't know what is.

>>949584
Yet they told their journalists they should call literal torture Orwellian terms like "enhanced interrogation"

https://www.salon.com/2009/06/22/npr/

There's a lot of discussion in here about NPR and their validity
I'm just here to Correct the Record© and bring Facts® to the discussion for the sake of America©©℗
NPR is registered as a non-profit corporation, but was created by the US Congress using official legislative power.
It is a membership-based organization and most of its members are government entities.
Roughly 1/5 of it's funding is received directly from government sources.
The CEO of national public radio Inc is John F Lansing. Prior to becoming CEO of NPR 2 years ago, Lansing was the CEO of U.S. Agency for Global Media, a federal entity operated by the US State department and used as a propaganda outlets in foreign countries to push US foreign policy.
Well known propaganda outlets owned by USAGM include Voice of America and Radio Free Asia.

>>949237
>NOOOO You can't treat us the way that we want to be treated!
the stupidity of libruls, everyone.

>>949028
>You're not gonna make it fam
You aint my fam, deplorable.

This doesn't make sense. How does he injure two people, unless if they were live rounds? I heard speculation about a slug being left in the barrel when a new blank was inserted, but how does that hit two people? And why were they in line of the killzone in the first place?

>>949576
It was a live round.

>>948882
>>949129
>>949102
Baldwin, the producer of the film, fired the union armorer and went with some 19 year old to save money. he should be found criminally negligent and kicked out of SAG

>>949630
https://youtu.be/-EjukzL-bJc

>>949630
Baldwin, the producer of the film, fired the union armorer and went with some 19 year old to save money. he should be found criminally negligent and kicked out of SAG

>>949615
A work of fiction about the human race overpopulating to such a high degree that they build skyscrapers just to accomidate rising birth rates.

>>949612
She's an autustic welp who looks like putin with fetal alcoholism. You really find that hot?

>>949616
I dont think thats gonna happen. People dont want to have kids anymore
I dont know anyone under 35 with kids

>>949570
Just bought it on ebay for $7.08 delivered. Thanks.

>>949612
She looks a lot like the "I can count to potato" girl, minus a couple pounds