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We encourage you to have a look around the catalog first to see what we’re all about before posting your first thread. Topics typically posted here include:
>Outdoor recreational activities (Hiking, trail running, bushwhacking, camping, spelunking, geocaching, orienteering, expeditions, urban exploration, backpacking, etc.)
>Gardening, farming and related activities
>Hunting and fishing, and other activities involving the stalking or taking of game (including bird-watching)
>Outdoor survival, bushcraft, foraging, self-sustenance in nature, train-hopping, hoboism, etc.
>Outdoor destinations and exploration (specific trails, parks, regions, etc.)
>Water-related activities (boats, diving, etc.)
>Outdoor philosophy (conservation, Leave No Trace, protectionism, etc.)
>Outdoor building and living (cabins, huts, treehouses, etc.)
>Outdoor social activities and organizations (meet-ups, Scouts, NOLS, etc.)
>Gear related to any of the above topics

Most topics related to the outdoors are fine. Write properly, behave politely, encourage a respectful community, and most importantly, GO OUTSIDE!!
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Just a friendly reminder that threads about weapons which do not pertain to their use in outdoor activities should be posted on /k/ instead. Thanks.

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What are some good spots to go exploring with a Submarine in Florida?

pic related
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>>1727945
Yeah all the plans have been sold to another firm, nobody bought any of those. The big one would have been something like $100m or some shit.

>>1728119
If you need an experienced chief of the boat I have a contact.
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There seem to be a lot of intelligent people here, but are you sure you want to do this instead of regular scuba with a little thing to pull you around? If you truly want to do it go for it, but just know there is an easier way if its the ends that you're looking for not the means
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ßump
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>>1727044

Hampture guy? Is that you?
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I find it hard to believe that thing is seaworthy but I guess after watching the Real Life Guys on Youtube make a positive pressure sub from 2 bathtubs and successfully use it in a lake, anything is possible

What type of map do you use when /out/? GPS? Phone app? Paper map?

What landforms do you tend to look for, or specially enjoy seeing when /out/?

Been looking for a good map-app that can allow me to download a few maps (elevation, vegetation etc.) beforehand and take with me when out. Suggestions would be appreciated.
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>>1727546
Yo I buy some maps from the USGS store and man THEY SLAP. Every anon should buy a couple, I just don't know where or how I can laminate them.
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>>1728717
Kephart’s Route Sketching. Basically pace counting and a compass. It’s strangely accurate. A couple of years ago I dumped almost the whole chapter out of his book here.
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>>1729111
I'm a forester with a 4yr BS in Forest Management. I do a little bit of everything as far as forestry is concerned, kind of a jack of all trades forestry contractor.

GIS comes in handy when designing timber cruises as well as harvest layout maps, stream surveys, wildlife surveys, etc. I've even used ArcGIS to make some LiDAR maps of an area I knew to contain a bunch of caves, where I could see entrances that I could go and explore.

GIS proficiency definitely looks good on a resume as a lot of the folks in the forestry field are old timers that can hardly open an email, much less used ArcGIS.
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>>1727952
why does this get shilled so much here
all you nigga lives in cali?
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>>1728755
>Tell me about middle eastern /out/
I hiked from the length of Jordan starting at the Syrian boarder and finishing the red sea. Took me 14 days. The route wasn't mine, but rarely has any waymarks and in the south rarely has any actual trail. The north wasn't my cup of tea. It's fairly populated and doesn't feature much interesting geography. And there was a fair bit of road walking. The south was nuts, open desert, slot canyons, camels, nomads, everything.
I slept without my tarp everynight bar one. And there was only one 40 mile section were I met other hikers.
I felt safe the whole time, people are super nice out there, but the bedouin dogs are scary.
I wouldn't hike there outside of winter. And plan to go back to spend more time in the south.
>water
yeah this is the biggest challenge, but there was good enough info on water to make a plan and I was comfortable with doing 25 miles a day minimum so knew I'd be moving bewteen reliable water sources fast enough to never have to carry more then 2 days of water. I was out there in the winter so there was a little ground water around but I didn't rely on it.

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Traditional folk beliefs, old cultural practices, and just plain superstitions used for safety and fortune in the outside.
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>>1726522
based on what?
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>>1729095
No it’s always been the case. If you’re not married you’re partners.
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Let’s say you had to kill a 10 foot tall muscular goat man that can run across a street in less than a second, is 300AAC enough to kill something like that or should I use a bigger round?
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>>1729095
You daft cunt the term's been around way longer than that bullshit
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>>1729516
The Brides of Dracula (1960)

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>go on a short 3 hour hike
>later get home
>notice a tick on crawling on my shirt
>mfw

So it begins. I'm usually pretty meticulous about treating pants, shirt, socks, and boots with premethrin(also my pack, hat and car interior) . I got lazy this time and since it was only a 3 hour hike I wore jeans and a t shirt.

Earlier I read a paper about premethrin from clothes entering your bloodstream and eventually being excreted via urine, especially when wearing treated clothes in hot weather and for a long time. So now, on top of being worried about the tick jew, I'm worried about the carcinogenic (among other issues) effects of premethrin. So do I risk Lyme and other horrid tick diseases or take my chances with premethrin? The season is here and with it the tick menace returns. Paper I referenced linked below.

(https://www.nature.com/articles/jes201365)
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If you think ticks are bad, never ever go to the asian jungles.

Western forests are so peaceful and easy to live in compared to most of the rest of the world. And you're scared of tics?
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>>1729805
they said "fluoride and aspartame" are safe too. Yet drinking soda with only stevia+sucralose gives me headaches almost every single fucking time. And thats just from the tiny amount of sucralose, that i thought "meh its probably fine, its not aspartame".

You cover only the lower part of the pants when the ticks can come in contact.
You should try those "oils" from the youtube tick videos anyway instead.
And yeah, just wear solid pants, tuck them in the shoes. no need to cover your shirt in poison.

Also those shoes....are not solid at all. Any tick can bury tiself through the laces.

stay safe off-road bro
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>>1729805
also fun fact.
people thought paraquat was not so bad too, until it got banned in every country, and people in china use it to kill each other.
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>>1726531
Americans soak themselves in chemicals before taking a walk lol.
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>>1726531
Just spray everything with a bit of citrus repellent.
Citrus turns away most pest insects.

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Hey guys, just got back from a trip to alpines. What is this pandemic everyone is talking about? If you mean all the fat woman roaming the streets, yeah LOL there is a FATTY pandemic ALL RIGHT!
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Just in case anyone's legit in this boat.
1x very over hyped flu style disease being used to take all western rights and liberties by the usual suspects.
Leftist boomers are acting as snitches against anyone who dares go for a walk without permission from the dear leadership.
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>>1723505
>LOL there is a FATTY pandemic ALL RIGHT!
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>>1729166
Also this, I kind of want to live in the middle of nowhere now.
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>>1725909
Doesn't look like very tasty prey.
>>1726754
>go out?
Ew no, there's bug and I might get sun burn. Going out is for gross normies.

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does /out/ like Jas Townsends?

I enjoy his/their channel. I don't plan recreating any of it but it's nice to learn.
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>>1729785
His cooking videos are nice, but he really needs to shut the fuck up on all other topics. Especially everything relating to woodworking. His cabin videos were a bad joke, with him mislabeling tools (ex. he claimed a scandinavian felling axe with a short handle was central european and meant for carpentry - I have several inherited german carpenters hatchets, and they're nothing alike), showing unnecessarily dangerous practices and generally repeating cliches everybody who's done some research shouldn't fall for. And I'd be willing to bet that once his cabin unavoidably starts losing it's chinking and the roof starts leaking in a few years, he either won't mention it on the channel or claim that this proves how cabins were temporary structures - nevermind that properly build cabins lasted decades or sometimes even centuries without major repairs.

And of course, his tree felling video (taken down by now) was even worse - not only did the guy doing the felling make every mistake imaginable (using a splitting axe, cutting to deep on the notch, stepping into the tree's fall direction, trying to stop the falling tree with his hands), Jas then went on to claim that accidents like that, where a perfectly straight tree falls in the opposite of the inteded direction, were supposedly common and would show that axes were just unsafe compared to chainsaws.
Which is a load of bull. If you know what you're doing, axes are at least as safe as chainsaws, and I'd claim that they're even safer, as a glancing blow hitting your leg won't kill you, while a kicking chainsaw might (even with safety equipment, I've seen helmets split even when the kickback brake worked).
And even when he took the video down (after many people pointed out his mistakes), instead of admitting that he messed up, he whined about how he was trying to reconstruct the past and could not have known better. as reference, last time somebody asked about felling with an axe here, he had explanations in a day.
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I like his videos but the guy gives off a weird vibe to me. Like he's super obsessive about the stuff he does and it ruined his marriage or something. Also is the super fat guy that's in some videos a son of his?
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>>1729785
>orange fool
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>>1729785
The ones I watched are interesting.

>>1729852
Hmm, I didn't see anything you're referencing but youtube's do make videos on things they know nothing about quite often.
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>>1729873
The really big guy I've seen looked older to me.

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I've always toted my sleeping bag with me everywhere I go until I discovered YouTube. All the big bushcraft channels on YouTube told me wool blankets are better than sleeping bags. I paid over a 200 for 2 high qualiyt 100% wool blankets.

Last night I used them for camping and wrapped myself around in them as they recommend. I still froze my butt off.
They're also extremely heavy. 12 pounds total. I even took that wool blanket off of my ruck due to the weight of it. I am never going out with them again
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>you gotta sleep next to a fire for it to work
>wool doesn't lose insulation when it's wet
I'm really sick and tired of this board sometimes, a lot of you guys are fucking idiots.
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>>1726998
>what if, instead of cheap as shit sheeps' wool, it was something more like mohair or angora (rabbit) wool?
Then it would be expensive and start losing it's hairs immediately. Both mohair and angora have much shorter fibers than sheep's wool.
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>>1727130
>When will this meme finally die?
Says the guy posting meme diagrams. If you look at the actual research, you'll find out that what your diagram shows as "wet" means completely soaked. However, neither being rained on nor submerging will soak wool. The only way to do that is to wash it with soap (to remove the lanolin) and knead it under water.
Also, if your diagram was from a scientific source, it would define it's terms or simply replace "wet" and "dry" with weight percentages.

>>1727155
>if you're already soaked, wrapping up in anything is better than nothing
Wrong. materials like cotton, that don't insulate at all but still hold water are even worse.
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>>1729220
>>1729456
Ok, I thought it would be more that big slow burning logs.
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>>1725980
wool is the ultimate comfy but it's better in relatively warm weather/climates
perfect for the PNW starting right about this time of year and thru early fall
not good for winter though unless you sleep dressed or bring 4 of them

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Anyone got any tips/infographics for deer hunting?

Discuss
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>>1725930
What projectiles are you using? What load? What is your average distance? How far do they run, if they do?
Tell me EVERYTHING, I have some people who think muzzleloader = flintlock hurr durr unreliable
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Get your deer checked for CWD before you eat it
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>>1722960
Dude that shit actually works. Me and my brother did the same pretending to be a 4 legged animal. We could stalk and kill a roe buck on a open field. Got close to 80m to it.
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Any california people here? i'd like to hunt deer/wild pig, mainly for food, but from what i'm reading it seems like you have to win a lottery to be able to hunt the good spots or you have to pay a lot of money to do a guided hunt on private land, so that it isn't even cost effective to hunt for food here.
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bump for interest

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Not really sure if this is the right place to ask, but I was wondering if I could somehow get into the geology/mineralogy field without a college degree? I really don't think I'll be able to graduate.

Also general /out/ career thread
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>>1728656
Hi OP

Geologist here. I work in diamond exploration out in British Columbia.

What is it about geology that makes you want to work in it? If it's because you'll be outside hiking all day looking for cool rocks, you need a BS from a highly regarded school like Colorado School of Mines, The University of British Columbia, University of Alberta. Then, as an undergrad, you'd need to have an internship.

To do the type of geology people think of in their heads (i.e. mapping, taking samples, fly in-fly out type of work, that would fall under the career of "mineral exploration." Need good experience out in the field for that, and it doesn't pay super well without a masters degree unfortunately.

My sound advice to you would be to get into geology as a hobby rather than a career. It's incredibly volatile and relies heavily on the market. Head on over to /r/geologycareers to learn more about us
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>>1729496
I thought that geology would be a good choice for me (OP) because I like to be outside and I do have in interest in minerals and rocks. I don't really know what else I could major in.
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>>1729693
Oil
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>>1729693
try being a miner or a geodetic engineer?
or try working on a quarry.

they don't pay much but you're out there.
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>>1729023
volcanic vents and hotsprings

Have ultra-light gearfags gone too far?
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>>1729771
No
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>>1727393
Think back. Did your gramps have any teeth left when he told you that?
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>>1729651
I grew up carrying big heavy gear, canned food, and the rest. Now my base weight is sub 7lbs most the time. It's awesome. My bag is tiny and weighs so little. It's helped me go further and hike more very, which has allowed me to access more remote areas quicker with less effort.
Why people have an issue with this I will never know.
>bunch of limp-wrist FAGGOTS
It's funny how this sentiment is very rarely spouted by any who actually does properly challenging out. And how those engaging on the more difficult end of the spectrum all talk about making efforts to reduce pack weight. Just food for thought.
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>>1729862
Unless that 7lb includes a shotgun you never made it that far
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>>1729865
Ok boomer

> Roman recruits were first required to complete 20 Roman miles (29.62km or 18.405 modern miles) with 20.5kg in five summer hours
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>>1729517
It was actually a poster who said those things
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>>1729522
And now it is a pasta.
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>>1729263
... You realize that the average modern, healthy human can walk a mile in between 15, 20 minutes? And that many people from antiquity relied on walking as their sole form of transport?
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>>1729517
Superspeeder...
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>>1729262
is it on relatively flat grounds?
I can pull like 20 km on hike with same amount of gears and time
never tried on flat grounds tho

What are some items that total gimmicks and provide little advantage in the wild?
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>>1728731
packs small only bad thing is you have to oil it it's a bit messy, but store it in a metal candy box and it's fine.
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>>1727057
>Doesn't actally exist yet
>Posts a picture of it
>Not mass produced
It exists, you can actually get ahold of the owner and have one made for you. It's stupid expensive for a retarded knife. I'd only order one to be like that Espada meme guy on /k/, post it to rustle some jimmies.
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>>1722904
Bitch the tent is set up, you can take your rucksack off now
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>>1722904
well mules can carry stuff for you
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>>1726487
Not this time

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Has anyone grown citrus fruit trees indoors? Any tips/advice/pictures or anything related? I bought a dwarf meyer lemon tree online, but it won't arrive for a month so I want to be prepared. For context I live in the midwest in an apartment without a balcony (east facing window) so it's not really possible to ever put it outside.
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>>1728287
HEY WHAT THE FUCK
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>>1727544
I have a dwarf Meyer in a 50 gallon pot- also have a ponderosa in same sized pot.
Had them about 10 years.
They get dragged into the greenhouse every autumn before it gets cold and dragged out when the chance of frost is over. So that's usually about 5 months.
They do very well. They're alway confused as to when to bloom though.
Just keep it near a window and it should do fine.
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>>1728961
Thank you
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>>1728287
A WHORE GUSTO FLEW OUT MY HOUSE
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>>1727926
Nah, just placed it right in front of the window. The fruits haven't ripened yet though, so I can't say for certain that it'll work.


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