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We encourage you to have a look around the catalog first to see what we’re all about before posting your first thread. Topics typically posted here include:
>Outdoor recreational activities (Hiking, trail running, bushwhacking, camping, spelunking, geocaching, orienteering, expeditions, urban exploration, backpacking, etc.)
>Gardening, farming and related activities
>Hunting and fishing, and other activities involving the stalking or taking of game (including bird-watching)
>Outdoor survival, bushcraft, foraging, self-sustenance in nature, train-hopping, hoboism, etc.
>Outdoor destinations and exploration (specific trails, parks, regions, etc.)
>Water-related activities (boats, diving, etc.)
>Outdoor philosophy (conservation, Leave No Trace, protectionism, etc.)
>Outdoor building and living (cabins, huts, treehouses, etc.)
>Outdoor social activities and organizations (meet-ups, Scouts, NOLS, etc.)
>Gear related to any of the above topics

Most topics related to the outdoors are fine. Write properly, behave politely, encourage a respectful community, and most importantly, GO OUTSIDE!!
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Just a friendly reminder that threads about weapons which do not pertain to their use in outdoor activities should be posted on /k/ instead. Thanks.

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I will be (voluntarily) homeless within the next few days, as soon as I'm finished preparing. I picked this stuff up at Walmart today. My initial plan was to trek deep into the woods and hang myself, which should explain the strange and lackluster initial setup here. However, I've now come up with the fantastic idea of trying life out as a homeless person instead.

I know that killing myself would severely damage and possibly ruin the lives of three other people whom I love. It's hard for me to justify doing that. My hope is that they won't take my choice to live as a homeless man quite so badly, even if they find it worrying and confusing.

I envision myself as a Diogenes-type character, spending my days reading books, philosophizing, and writing down my own thoughts on things, for what they're worth. Ideally, I'd find some quiet wooded area on the outskirts of a small town to setup camp. It'll be rough living at first, no doubt, but I'm hoping I'll be able to gradually improve my setup over time, and eventually reach a point where I can live fairly comfortably, while also having the freedom to spend my time doing things that I enjoy. I'd like to avoid panhandling, but it may be necessary in the beginning. Eventually, I hope to find some more honest and dignified way of sustaining myself, perhaps something like a part-time farmer's helper.

I figure being a successful homeless person is a lot a about resource management and finding creative and intelligent solutions to problems, which I think are things that I enjoy and can excel at.

Apologies for the wall of text. Once I start writing, it's difficult for me to stop. To get to the point, I'm looking for any general advice, words of wisdom, or recommendations with regards to gear, supplies, or any other aspect of living as a homeless person. My current budget is about CAD $500 and I currently live in Southern Ontario.

Thank you for your time.
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>>2045488
You arent a larping faggot you literally went out and did the thing. You failed but failure is the first step towards success. Being homeless by choice is pretty retarded but maybe you learned something about yourself anon
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>>2078472
ok buddy, way to miss the point
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>>2038838
I'm in hamilton too, but you sound like a weak, insufferable james street reject.
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>>2038754
>I've now come up with the fantastic idea of trying life out as a homeless person instead.
Congrats! Everyone should give themselves the opportunity to view life through a different lens to gain perspectives and experiences that most people lack. Just don't try to make it permanent, a year or two at most is ideal.
> I'm looking for any general advice, words of wisdom, or recommendations with regards to gear, supplies, or any other aspect of living as a homeless person.
https://notreallyasurvivalblog.blogspot.com/2017/08/gearlist.html?view=flipcard has my complete gearlist and a few other notes on other pages you might benefit from, like hitchhiking and foraging specific to North America.
>I may have to resort to using river or lake water for bathing purposes
Not if you plan on using soap (which isn't strictly necessary, desu). Saponins are piscitoxic.
>How much of an unlikable douchebag do I come across as?
I'm on the spectrum and share a lot of the traits you mentioned. It improved significantly once I started hitchhiking and forced myself into choosing between social interaction or walking, lol. Started to come back a bit over the last year with the coof, so I've been thinking about getting back out there.
>could I sustain myself on rabbits and squirrels and such using dead fall traps
This is difficult for people with decent experience and not something that should be relied upon as a beginner. Fishing? Sure. Hunting with a .22? Maybe. Trapping? Not so much.
>I would like to attempt something like this again in the future
If you can make it over to WA, I'll take the time to teach you and put you in a place that you'll be alright for a while on your own. I'm not saying to not get your life back on track, but since you were so dead-set on trying it, it may still be what you need to clear your head before you go back to that dark place again.

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>>2038754
Glad you decided against the rope anon. It's a shitty way to go and unfair on the people who care about you and whoever finds your body.
If you're going to live outdoors, I'd recommend picking up a trangia stove. You'll also probably want some tarps and more rope for waterproofing and creating shelters and a large backpack you can line with binbags for when you need to stash your stuff.
That aside though given that you're interested in philosophy, have you thought about looking for a library assistant job in some tiny town? It's less menial and gives you more time to think and often lets you work part time. You could get some shitty cabin in the woods and slowly do it up while you work part time. Check out Mark Riley's work on Wittgenstein and Heidegger for inspiration.

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does /out/ dirtbike?
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Not exactly, but Im excited to take my new cb500f camping this year.
Clearance issues on the V4 were limiting me to logging roads only. This one shares enough parts with the 500x, I can fit most accessories by chopping up the fairings. Change the suspension internals, get larger wheels, if I'm still not satisfied.
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how else do you get to the trailhead when the weather is fucked
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>>2079132
I'm 6'2"
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>>2077204
125cc is enough for a dirt bike but only if it’s 2 stroke
I recommend that you buy a crf250l Its road legal, cheap (5k new) and great for beginners/off roading. It is also very reliable The only thing that is not good about it is the fact that it’s pretty slow Fast enough for the woods and to normally drive on the road but it still lacks the power that a 450 has.

Man dies, woman rescued in Death Valley National Park

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-04-09/man-dies-wife-rescued-in-death-valley-national-park


An Arizona man died and his wife was rescued Friday after their vehicle got two flat tires and they went missing in Death Valley National Park.
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>>2080356
No, but it IS true that you're a gigantic flaming faggot.
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>>2078294
>I'm clearly walking in circles
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>cant drive a car with flat tires

People really are dumb. Youre going to fuck up your rims hard, but you can still drive on them.
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>>2080458
hearty kek

>he packs out his poo when camping instead of digging a hole because the forest rangers told him to
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>pack your poo
Fucking lol
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>>2078127
I’m not even kidding bro. That ranger stuck his big thick finger up my anus to determine how much more poo I would be defecating over the next couple days so he could fine me for that too.
Fuck America
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>>2076801
imagine digging a hole and not just shitting in a nearby stream
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Doesn't it just go away or decompose or something after a while, why do I need to take it away
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>>2077313
What if they taste it?

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I'm tired of hiking in big heavy boots, so I did some research and bought pic related.

What does /out/ use for multi day hikes in the mountains? High top or low? Quick drying or waterproof? Stiff sole or soft soles? Discuss
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>>2079990
What about fresh snow?
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>>2076378
No man. I wear nothing but steel toes. My job has me hiking in the woods 50 + hours a week. Just picked up a new pair last week.
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>>2080222
Your job likely has you exposed* to the woods for 50 hours. 50 hours of focused HIKING in these is another story.
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>>2075814

Remote hiking guide here.

Depending on your location and terrain you're traversing, I'd highly recommend trying some barefoot style trail runners like mine in pic related. They are extremely light-weight, comfortable, can be worn in water and very beneficial for the health of your foot. I hike in these 70% of them time, mainly on day walks or multi-days with terrain thats not extremely rough or in a very cold climate.

I use these to train, toughen and strengthen my feet and ankles. If you exclusively use high support and padded hiking boots, you feet become soft and ankles will become weak. Much better to strengthen your feet and ankles in conjunction with wearing hiking boots than purely relying on the protection and support from boots.

This is not to say never wear boots. I still use them in cold wet environments, extreme terrain or extended remote hikes where it would be unsafe to risk a foot injury.
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>>2075814
Alfa m77's or vivobarefoot trackers

What do you guys use to boil water
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>>2076417
What is "smoke test and cyanoacrylate" Alex?
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>>2072834
My sheer force of will.
If not that, than a steel nalgene bottle or the nesting cup that goes with it
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One of these usually does the trick when /out/
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>>2072858
Lodge dutch oven
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>>2072834
Optimus Terra Xpress HE Cooking Pot 1,75L

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Any suggestions for getting a lot of scallions?
Do they naturally just divide after a year of growing? I prefer using the white bits so I can't just trim the green parts
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is it true plants can grow faster/stronger if you play music to them? which genre is the best for making them grow faster?
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>>2080473
You cut the leaves off
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>>2080487
Does that encourage the plant to offset?
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>>2080473
I know nothing of onions but I planted one old red onion from my kitchen and it grew into multiple stems

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Post your packs boys.
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>>2080433
WHy is the gameboy photoshopped in?
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>>2080474
>sad and scared eyes
Need I remind you that you are humanizing animals. It looks like it’s paying attention like a good boy.
>fat body structure
It’s not fat you dingus. Not in the slightest.
I think that comments like this prove why vegans shouldn’t have animals as pets. You think they are humans.
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anon pls stop it
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>>2080474
Shut up, punk ass.
Henry is a fit, happy and handsome boy
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Norrøna Recon Syncroflex 125L and Arcteryx LEAF Assault pack 30L

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I made this oven out of rocks
It has two sloping rocks that makes coals fall down into a hollow compartment under it for well i don't know what for but i thought it looked cool, you can also blow air from under the fire to heat it up
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Neat. You should try to bake something in it.
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>>2078521
just dont use rocks from stream beds. They can explode.
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>>2079186
no worries, there are no streams here
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>>2078521
Cook something.
Document.
Post results.
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>>2078521
>>2078521
the worst cairn since ages

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How do i make ranger beads so that the beads stick to the cord instead of moving around? What cord? Will any bead work?
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>knowing how far you´ve walked?
LOL what are you, gay? I'm not telling, none of your business haha
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>>2077237
You've just outed yourself as someone who's never been off a trail
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Are these so that you can tickle your prostate while on the move? seems like a good idea if not.
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>>2077568
>>2077380
You establish a "pace count" for yourself on flat ground, ie, how many times your left leg hits the ground in 100m or 100yds. Then, if you're smart, you do the same thing on a couple of grades of uphill and downhill, and on long wet grass vs dirt vs gravel, and finally do all of those over with a pack on at your normal weight. Scribble them down or note it in your phone.

Now, when you're /out/ and going across ground where there are no paths, if you know for example your pace count on the terrain you're in is 65, you count every time your left foot hits the ground and when you get to 65, you shift one of the small beads up the cord. When you've gotten to nine of those and hit 100m/yds again, you shift one of the large ones and reset the small ones. Now you can reliably measure your distance across terrain really quite accurately without fucking up the count. By keeping a decent line with a compass and intermediate waypoints or fixes, you can walk through woods in a fairly direct line without GPS and maintain a pretty reasonably accurate idea of where you are the whole time.

Not super useful on premade trails though still handy to some degree; not super useful if your phone works and stays working, but it's a good old-school skill to have.
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>>2077160
No i only sucked my dick once that's it.

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I'm gonna buy a mess kit, what should i look for? Steel? Anytihng else?

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How much seed would I need to feed one person?
Preferably with enough yield to last the winter.
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>>2080453
those arent seeds
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You need to eat over 3kg of potatoes a day to even get 2000 kcal and potatoes are extremely energy dense.
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>it's this thread again
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>>2080453
Even the mere mention of seed makes me think of Sneed's feed and seed.
Help me.

What trail pillow is the best?
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>>2078719
practical tier, it's not neon colored and can be washed
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>>2071954
Pick a decent-sized rock.
It's free.
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>>2079018
>cope
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Your mothers tits
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>>2071954
My sleeping bag stuff sack filled with jacket, spare socks and undies. Also stuff it with soft vegetation if there is any around.

My pack has padding on the back and have used that a few times.

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how do i use a compass together with a map? i think i can orient a map north, or so i think at least. you lay map flat on ground, you put compass on the edge of the map so that it lines up, then you rotate the map till it lines up with the red northward pointign arrow ok?

but how do bearings work? i try to make one but it always ends up as 0 degrees, i have a silva transparent compass very standard. am i retarded? this is so difficult i am so confused i follow the instructions over and over again but it returns 0 degrees
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>>2077328
i dont know
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>>2077323
Andrew Skurka has a very good two part video on the bare basics. I’m not going to Google it for you.
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>>2077323
why use a silva transparent compass when you can use Alltrails Pro?
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>>2077328
If you have a known landmark, take a bearing on it. Go to your map, draw a line at the same degree from that landmark. You are somewhere on that line. If you have two known landmarks, do the same for the second. Where the lines cross is where you are.
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>>2077475
thanks! i understand a bit more now at least




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