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This board is dedicated to the discussion of history and the other humanities such as philosophy, religion, law, classical artwork, archeology, anthropology, ancient languages, etc. Please use /lit/ for discussions of literature. Threads should be about specific topics, and the creation of "general" threads is discouraged.

For the purpose of determining what is history, please do not start threads about events taking place less than 25 years ago. Historical discussions should be focused on past events, and not their contemporary consequences. Discussion of modern politics, current events, popular culture, or other non-historical topics should be posted elsewhere. General discussions about international culture should go on /int/.

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When discussing history, please reference credible source material, and provide as much supporting information as possible in your posts.

>No evidence for Adam and Eve
>No evidence for Noah’s flood
>No evidence for the Exodus
>No evidence of angels or demons
>No evidence that Jesus existed

How does this religion stay afloat again?
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>>14541452
Great so eyewitness testimony suddenly becomes inadmissable when it's written in a book and... ages? Yeah that's not arbitrary at all.
>why my claim doesn't convince you
Convince me of what exactly?
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>>14541444
Atheism is just a religion that denies the ontological reality of gods, it's closest to the Indian religions. Most atheists who do a modicum of research even believe in an eternal or cyclic universe of some sort.
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>>14541464
>Great so eyewitness testimony suddenly becomes inadmissable when it's written in a book and... ages? Yeah that's not arbitrary at all.
You asked me if it's admissible in court. Now you're seething because I pointed out to you that an old book claiming to be a second hand account of an eyewitness testimony indeed wouldn't be admissible in court. And as for the claimed first hand elements, Paul's claims wouldn't be admissible in court either.
>Convince me of what exactly?
Nice, we're at the stage where you're playing stupid. Always happens. Convince you that my grandpa had a dragon, obviously.
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>>14541462
None of those things is shared by all atheists, though. You can be an atheist without believing any of that stuff, just so long as you don't believe in any gods.
>>14541466
It is a belief, but it's not a religion. A religion is a complete worldview; atheism is merely one component of a worldview, and is used as a component of several complete worldviews, e.g. communism, objectivism, some stripes of buddhism
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>>14541429
No. The first human is the OG carrier of A0-T, the current MRCA is merely one of his descendants. The wikipedia article you're getting your information mistakenly conflates the two of them but they are two separate individuals that lived 40k years apart.

Abrahamic religions require (blind) faith, which in my opinion is something that goes against the European tradition.

Already in the Iliad you can see Achilles challenging the Gods, forcing them to prove themselves as superior to him.
Something similar can be observed in the story of Alexander the Great. His companions disobey him and don't want to adopt the Asian customs that Alexander wants to enforce. Alexander is forced to prove his authority.
Even in the Platonic tradition, faith is not central. Through the method of the Socratic dialogue one comes to their own conclusion and realises for themselves the truth, instead of having to just believe it.

Questioning authority, forcing it to prove itself worthy and the desire to find out the truth by yourself is quintessentially European.
The schism, the reformation, the enlightenment are all consequences of the European man not agreeing with the requirements of blind faith/obedience put forth by Christianity.
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>>14541465
Yes. That's why European """"paganism"""" always becomes atheism without an intervention of sand babble.

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>Sells you the cure to the illness it created.
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>>14541430
>they believe some things are better than others
Do you think a moral relativist would disagree with you? Consider skimming Plato Stanford for 5 seconds to understand how much of a non point you are making.
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>>14541414
Why is god's bad feeling more valid than the child killer's good feeling?
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>>14540658
faith is infinitely costly: if you don't already have it, you cannot obtain it at all, no matter the sacrifices you are willing to make in return.
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>>14541414
Morality predates the Jew on a stick whether you like it or not. There is no OBJECTIVE morality, that is true, but societies have always evolved to have some sort of morality. Generally, child murder is frowned upon because it is hurtful for the society/group/family and more people are discontent with such an act than happy with it.
If we talk about religion in general, the presence of an idea of God doesn't necessarily guarantee the existence of a moral code, as different religions have different moral codes. The moral code of one religion may not align with another, and in some cases, it may even be contradictory.
Secular morality systems have developed throughout all history, whether it's Greek philosophers like Aristotle and Plato, or semi-religious systems like Confucianism and Buddhism. Ultimately, the society chooses what moral code they use. There is objective morality, but there are some acts that are almost universally frowned upon.
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>>14541440
>Do you think a moral relativist would disagree with you?
No, they really are this dumb. I don't care if you think otherwise, other people get what I'm saying. If you think that moral relativism teaches that some things are objectively better than other things, (as in this post >>14541261
, which says "good" and "bad") then you're misunderstanding or you're getting ready to start switching definitions disingenuously around to suit yourself now that things are this far.

Nonetheless, there are people who deny that there is such a thing as objective good or bad. Yet they implicitly work with these concepts, and even appeal to them. That in itself outs them as being willingly dishonest, and specifically intellectually dishonest, because they do one thing in practice but say (and try to teach) another. The real teaching is on how to deceive others. Maybe someone deceived you and taught you that way of thinking, and you truly don't even realize this yet, I don't know. Nonetheless, appealing to good implies an ultimate good. There is none good save one, that is God. Glad I could clarify that for people and I pray that you will see the facts even if you decide not to acknowledge them here.

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I'm worried. What if the world ends, society collapses and we're all bombed back into medieval living, and Jesus hasn't returned yet?
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>>14540995
Keep waiting retard
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>>14540998
Thanks I will.
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>>14540982
The clear choice is to embrace the most radical versions of AI and automation, in order to create a wholly autonomous industrial base so vast that no amount of human action could hope to disrupt its output to a material degree.

Then man can make war against his brothers as much as he wants, and it would just be like zoo animals tussling in their enclosure before going back to receive food from a caretaker they can never hope to overcome or even fully understand. Then they go at it again the next day, and it's just like that forever, regardless of whether there's ever any supernatural savior.
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>>14540982
so jesus gets more time to decide whether he wants to return or not. what is the problem?
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>>14540982
Jesus didn't exist. You might as well wait for the return of Batman.

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Hero or villain?
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>>14540591
I don't get why Napoleon was so hated by the Rothschilds. He was rather friendly to jews.
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>>14541320
He was pretty happy to come begging for the golden cavalry of St George to save him again in 1809, and 1813, and 1815.
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>>14540591
Wtf macron looks like him
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>>14541322
Because the rothschilds were brits.
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Hitler, Napoleon, and Joan D'Arc are the three most evil human being that ever walked this earth.

what's the lore behind this flag? why did hitler make the flag of germany a buddhist symbol?
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>buddhist symbol
how do people still believe this shit
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>buddhist symbol
GOOD MORNING SIR
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>>14537456
The swastika inside a cog was the symbol of Deutsche Arbeitsfront, the Nazi labor organization that replaced the trade unions.
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>>14537406
It looked cool as heck

Even pro-Native sources agree that all the tribes, when they got ahold of a captive, would never kill them normally but instead would invent the most sadistic and brutal ways of torturing them slowly to death. Why did they do this, and is there any comparable level of sadism in other cultures?

tl;dr what the fuck was their problem?
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>>14540534
Can't believe the truth stings so hard you degrade to seethe posting
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>>14541100
here's an alternative view: they were all unnecessarily cruel, so we lump them together in this respect. the "analogy" you try to push does not work because those european nations really were different, as you yourself admit.
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>>14540389
Definately an asian thing. I read that chinese during their civil war would execute people by forcing them to swallow needles. They are genetically incapable of empathy.
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>>14540739
And? As you can see they arent torturing them to death for fun unlike chinks and injuns but just efficiently and mercifully exterminating the jewish pest with one whack to the head.
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>>14540547
Pretty sure it wasnt done to the woman but rather "let us fuck you or we shit torture your kids/husband/etc."

>Singapore manages to have a low crime rate with the death penalty.
>In contexts where executions are widespread and public, death penalty is a good deterrent.
>"NOOO MY HECKIN DEATH PENALTY IS BAD!!! NO WE MUST SHOW COMPASSIONARINO!"
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>>14541296
>Living in a censored nanny state where you can’t defend yourself, and have zero privacy is a good thing!
You decry shitlibs but you’re exactly the same as them.
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If it works for them then good. I doubt you'd see approval rates in the 70s if there was even an insignificant amount of worry people don't have they'd be falsely implicated and sentenced to death.
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>>14540646
>you can still get sick despite washing your hands
>therefore you shouldn't wash your hands
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>>14541223
Conservatives will rail against twitter banning chuds for telling people to kill themselves and then support this.
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>>14541296
Anon you're not edgy or avant-garde for simping for Singapore. You're a faggot.

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How will /his/trannys will cope?
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>>14540764
Do they just pull random stories out of their ass?
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>>14540807
The answer to that is yes. Every nigger story you hear is bullshit. The left want to saturate society with so much nigger bullshit that there's no longer a reference point for what's true.
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>>14540764
Meroitic is a very cool-looking language. It's a shame that it's not deciphered, so we don't actually know much aobut the Kushites at this time except what the Romans said about them.

>>14540807
In this case the story is true. Romans tried expanding south, found too much resistance, and decided to focus east and north instead.
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>>14540826
This.
History is already becoming retarded with conflicting standards of proof, universities pushing agendas, established historians pushing back against exploitation into their field for fear their theories may be proved wrong, etc.
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>>14540829
>Meroitic is a very cool-looking language
hey, look, it's the "cannot understand the difference between language and writing system" schizo again.

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Why is the Nord vs Med debate such a big deal on here? Who the fuck cares? Why is everyone here so emotionally invested in conflicts that happened thousands of years ago?
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>>14541435
no, irl i mostly fuck your russian women while you think about some non existent "alpine"
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>>14541443
Troonwitch, I offer you to unite against the Bolivian faggot. He is the one who made me angry this day.
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>>14541441
projection, you made multiple identical comments about incels, pretending to be 2 different people
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>>14541447
is darkwitch in the room with us?
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>>14541449
>BBBBBUT YOU MEANT SOMETHING I KNOW THIS!!!
Dear Darktroon, new posters are showing in my 4chan-client.
>>14541450
In this thread. Do you accept my offer, Troonwitch? I'm serious, this faggot made me furious but I'm banned on /int/.

The statement that stops Christians dead in their tracks.
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Not everything can be proved.
Consistency is impossible
If you dig down deep enough into any discipline there are unproved assumptions

Socrates & Godel
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>>14540844
Yeah.
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>>14540478
This doesn't stop me
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>>14540507
Literally this. Belief in God is simply the proper functioning of the creature's mental faculties operating in an environment for which it is designed which is conducive to the generation of true belief.
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>>14540934
learn first what was it that Gödel actually proved, you nitwit.
... oh wait, this is /his/, you guys haven't got the capability.

Along with the Shoa Remembrance Day we have the Samudaripen or Porrajmos Remembrance Day for the romas, gypsies, zingaros, gitanos.
I'm pretty sure you guys are either happy they got killed and so will not try to claim their holocaust was fake so, enjoy it.
Or not.
Works for me in both cases.
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>>1454032
I'm not saying it didn't happen. Just that the numbers aren't as high as I'd have liked.

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>Haplo-autism
>Wikipedia historians
>10+ Christian threads
>10+ Hitler or Holocaust threads
>Dunning-Kruger effect in every single thread
When did this board become so cringe?
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go to reddit if u enjoy echo-chambers and one note discussions
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>>14541397
>Dunning-Kruger meme
Just going to fucking say it, the "Dunning-Kruger" dogshit is unironically a fucking paradox. To imply that one is overbearingly confident in their knowledge on a subject because they, in reality, know nothing also means whom who is accusing this to is subject to the same criteria.
As a consequence of this, it is entirely, if not more than rational to then infer that the sheer confidence in knowledge on the subject matter as to assess other's knowledge on the subject matter is actually a symptom of the so-called "Dunning-Kruger" effect, which then means that the initial accusation of the Dunning-Hominem effect is in reality likely null, and therefore creates a fucking paradox.

The "Dunning-Kruger" effect is basically an ad hominem for people too fake and gay to just call someone fake and gay. Blow your shit out of your ass.

Why did that retard Hitler invade Czechoslovakia when he was given the Sutenland? None of his actions prior to the war makes sense, its like he was trying to piss off everyone.
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>>14538766
>Not him and I'm not even a /pol/tard but you have to be braindead to think those subsidies came from Czech pockets rather than Sudeten German tax money lmao
Germans did not have special taxes, but they had special gibbs for preservation of German culture.
>The GDP of Czechoslovakia dropped severely just after the annexation of Sudetenland because that's where the industry and businesses were
Skoda in Pilsen? Ironworks in Ostrava? Weapon factory in Brno? Shoe factory in Zlin? Anon, you have no clue what you are talking about. GDP wasnt really a thing before 1944.
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>>14541308
>Skoda in Pilsen? Ironworks in Ostrava? Weapon factory in Brno? Shoe factory in Zlin?
Industry in Czechia was largely built during Austro-Hungary era by Germans. So yes, Czech economic success was based on German labor. Their economy has never been the same since 1945 and never will be.
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>>14541316
>Industry in Czechia was largely built during Austro-Hungary era by Germans. So yes
Pointless seething without evidence. 3/4 of factories mentioned were founded by Czech entrepreneurs and one was traditional center of industry bought and united by Rothshild.
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>>14541346
>Pointless seething without evidence.
> The new Czechoslovakian state was founded on excellent economic premises; prior to 1918, 70% of Austria-Hungary’s industrial production was based alone on the territories of the Bohemian lands (without Slovakia and Carpathian Ukraine).

Austria focused on building up Czech industry with heavy subsidies.

> 3/4 of factories mentioned were founded by Czech entrepreneurs and one was traditional center of industry bought and united by Rothshild
Retard I'm talking about the engineers and management of the factories. Those are the people who build up industry not bankers. Without the Germans those industries would not thrive as evidenced by the state of Czech industry since 1945.
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>>14541382
>Austria focused on building up Czech industry with heavy subsidies.
Austria did not have much of an industry to begin with, it was traditionally a poorer region than Czech lands. 70% of imperial industry was in CZ.
>I'm talking about the engineers and management of the factories
Bata? Laurin? Klement? Holek? Skoda? Schustala? Krizhik? Petrof? Novak? Where are your proofs, retard? Germans were mainly Aristocrats, while industrialists were mainly Czechs and Jews. You sound like an amerimutt who found out he is 2^(-69) German.


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