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Does any country on earth have a more tragic history than Poland?
>>10304161I mean, it's only tragic from second half of the 18th century to the 1950's / 60s. I'm sure there are countries with more tragic history.
>>10304161I dunno, Tibet is a strong contender right now
>>10305065Our aristocracy got buttfucked and temporarily replaced by some other aristocracy, who gives a shit.
>>10305073found americanwhen will you give land back to natives ?
>>10304161finland unironicly
Does Britain get enough credit for their role during the Napoleonic Wars or not?
>>10305075It's funny how Britain is always the third contributor of the winning side in every big war.WW1 = biggest contributor after France and RussiaWW2 = biggest contributor after Russia and America
>>10305092>WW1 = biggest contributor after France and RussiaWhat the fuck did Russia contribute other than handing over huge food supplies to the starving Germans
>>10305105They kept massive German armies tied down and captured more prisoners than the French and British put together, and utterly smashed the KuK army who otherwise would have been a decisive force
>>10305138I think actually beating Germany, and forming the blockade which ultimately forced them to admit defeat, is a bigger achievement than just being big enough to tie down some armies until you fall apart.
>>10305160The French were the ones to defeat Germany and without Russia there would have been no time for the blockade to work - and the blockade only worked anyway since the French Mediterranean fleet enabled the British to concentrate everything in the North Sea, abs only became really effective when the Americans joined. Russia might have lost but played a more important role in victory than Britain did.
Kemetbros....
>>10304346>>10304402southern France gets the same UV as e.g. Toronto, Vancouver, Sapporo
>>10304788Blister from a really bad burn. Look up what happens from 5 minutes in the sun after direct skin contact with giant hogweed.
>>10304050>Egyptians were nords
>>10304086Englishman here. I do not tan. Never have done, never will do. I just burn.
>>10304084Accurate
ITT: post /his/torical images that gets your dick hard
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>>10303597VGH, VVHAT COVLD HAVE BEENIF NOT FOR THE RESSENTIMENT OF SLAVES
>>10303597Why did Britain even get an occupation zone?They barely did anything...
>>10303597Why didn't the USSR get half of the capital in west berlin?
The premise of Jehova is taking the YHWH tetragrammaton and combining it with the vowels from the Hebrew word for Lord, Adonai. The word LORD was substituted for YHWH when read aloud by Jews. No one actually knows how YHWH is pronounced because you have to fill in the vowels yourself.But think about it. Why did this tradition start? Why LORD in particular? Maybe because those WERE the vowel sounds of YHWH. I suspect Jehova is the correct pronunciation on this theory.
>>10304776So where exactly is your cutoff point and what is informing it? Is enlightnment era Hebrew unpronounceable? Medieval hebrew? Mishnaic Hebrew? What makes יהוה impossible to pronounce but not any other random word found in the Old Testament? You don't see people running around saying we don't know how to pronounce things like בראשית or היתה or אברהם.
>>10304824>he actually doesn't know Modern Hebrew is a reconstructed languageGo read a book mate
>>10304903>Not knowing that there is a continuous corpus of Hebrew literature.Here's a story I'd like to recommend to you. 13th century, first discovered in Italy. It's an Arthurian Romance, of all things. Are you saying all the words in it are of unknown pronunciation?
>>10304980I thought we were talking about a language everyone forgot for centuries and then was revived again based on (then) the current status of closely related languages, instead of a blatant goalpost shift
You do realize different languages pronounce things differently right?This is like asking what is the right way to say "James". it all depends because in Spanish James is pronounced "Santiago"
>catholic church literally tortures and kills anyone who disagrees with them the moment they get a taste of worldly power>make sure only their inner circle has access to the Bible for thousands of years, denying "peasants" God's word>"the catholic church is the true church because historically everyone agreed with usHuh funny how that works. Weird how the moment the average Joe was able to Crack open a Bible and not get a visit from the inquisition, that supposed consensus fell apart...
>>10304109Complete nonsense. Catholicism maintains the validity of exorcism to this day whereas Protestant churches have, by and large, been responsible for such backsliding as lesbian Bishops and transgender confirmation ceremonies - precisely because they believe the secular can reinterpret the divine. Come. On.
>>10304442>explain it to me so it makes sense from within my paranoid fantasy
>>10304187No it doesn't. If you had actually read what you're talking about, you'd know that the Pope claims that it's "a mystery" before ending on the point that they (generally) will come to Christ regardless of their current beliefs. It's an excessively diplomatic document, for sure. But it isn't dogma and it isn't saying what you are saying it says.
>>10304512There were vernacular bibles available as well, Protestrannie.
Redpill me on Al-Andalus /his/
>>10305079This is indeed bullshit, but its not what you are saying. Italy was starting to recover from the fall of the Roman empire, but Belisarius and his gang ruined Italy by launching an invasion.
>>10305091>>10305115the eastern roman emperors incorporated 'flavius' as a title until heraclius decided it was inappropriate for a christian emperor in light of the flavian persecutions iircit's still a barbarous usage but not entirely absurd.
>>10305119>Muh Ostrogothic RenaissanceWhenever Renaissance is used to describe something it's a red flag
>>10305146Where the fuck did I say that? Are you seeing things? Do you need your medication?
>>10305153>Italy was starting to recover from the fall of the Roman empireThis is a lie
It's time to STOP
>>10305040He had to redeem Man and offer them a chance at salvation.The alternative was only having absolute exemplars pass the bar. Most of Humanity doomed to hellfire. By taking on the sins of Man on the cross as He died for His Father, Jesus offered the erasing of sins to the repentant and possible Perfection of History to the men who sought exemplarism, impossible beforehand.How many religions offer not only a path to Actual perfection but also Historical perfection? Apotheosis, true Apotheosis, is impossible if your history is faulty, thus making you imperfect and therefore not at the apex.
IVPITEROPTIMVS MAXIMVS
>>10304616I reject jesus
>>10305069How does that work though? Jesus was going around starting shit, he got arrested and executed for it and then suddenly it was all part of the plan? Sounds like cope to me.
>>10305069>The alternative was only having absolute exemplars pass the bar. Most of Humanity doomed to hellfire.I mean Yahweh supposedly created this whole thing, so if humans malfunction and don't do what they're supposed to do, doesn't that make Yahweh a hack? He had to intervene in his own game and break his own rules because otherwise everyone would lose?
where did the myth of mutually assured destruction originate from and how did it become so widespread?
>>10305014>nowadays nukes provide little to no real guaranteeAnd this is where you jump off the cliff into the ravine of retardation. Nukes don't need to be global civilization ending events to be a deterrent. Hell, conventional deterrents have worked for ages, nukes just raise the cost of hostile action even further.
>>10304928From the perspective of states, MAD is completely legitimate, because none of them can expect to survive nuclear war.The fact that individual humans would survive matters little to them.
>>10304928>myth>implying MAD hasn't led to the 'long peace'
>>10305151belief in MAD not the actual effects of nuclear weapons
>>10305173NAYRT, but even the "lightest" estimates of a full on exchange between the U.S. and the USSR once atomic weapons started becoming prevalent led to hundreds of millions of deaths. What policy gain could possibly be worth that kind of utter devastation?
>octavian bad
>>10305021There are no primary sources for vast swaths of historical events
>>10304595>Happy Indigenous People’s Day from a transgender askhistorians mod!Yeah fuck off
>>10305048Historia Civilis how does it feel knowing that Augustus will forever be known as one of the ideal rulers in history and your YouTube channel will whither and die like Channel Awesome?
>>10303943Wrong Wrong Wrong
>>10305048>he never fought alongside his men and avoided it whenever he could.Couldn’t care less about meathead retardation >he was a sadistic, sociopathic faggot who let rome starve to feed his ambitionsHe created the Pax Romana with the force of his own will and his genius >Caesar was based but octavian was a cowardly faggotCaesar chose Ocatavian. Choke on my cock faggot
What was his problem?
>>10301605Fenians are goblins not white people
>>10301074Being the greatest leader in England's history, and even greater than Napoleon.t. Carlyle
>>10301145In this context, this is the case though.
>>10301074I'm actually a direct descendant of Cromwell. Yes my last name is Cromwell. Far as I know after he died our family was chased or pressured out of Great Britain by royalists and Irish Catholics and into the new world.
>>10303674Your dad sounds unreasonably dogmatic. I understand that older mentality though, but one must understand that it is in (the movie's) Cromwell's belief that images have little importance to the truth of God, and can even corruption that truth.
is there a correlation between the post ww2 rampant secularization of western societies and their progressive decadence and inability to generate offsprings?
>>10305127False, a creator loves his creation just like a father his son.
>>10305118Why? You're a cringe retard that thinks an idea is inherited like a dominant gene or something>le muslims will outbreed you!They will outbreed everyone including you cringe christkek larpers, that's why keeping secularism and a good education is key to not destroy human civilization as we know it in the next centuries, something rampant christkekkery goes against when it takes power
>>10305154Definitely some childhood shit going on here. Sorry about your dad anon.
>>10305143The reality of atheists is that everything is material.Killing the elderly who are about to die just to save money, killing something without a face via abortion is considered good.A pile of thrash and lies.
>>10305169Not an argument.
>great, talented man who radiates potential>actually lives to fulfill all of it and doesn't die to something stupid like petty assassination or diseaseHow often does this happen?
>>10305141Augustus is said to be poisoned. Do you mean before or after they did things?
>>10305126>less to conquerDude what? China's fucking BIG and constantly fractured. They don't have the world's largest population for nothing. Anyway, the founder of the Han who beat 400,000 men with a 10,000 army counts.
Great man theory is shit.Kill all great men and someone else will rise to take their place. No such thing as a great man
>>10305141>AugustusPoisoned by Livia> TiberiusSuffocated by Caligula >Marcus AureliusMurdered by Commodus according to the great /his/torian Ridley Scott
>>10305148>Augustus is said to be poisoned. Do you mean before or after they did things?He was a sickly man in his 70s. The Livia poisoned him theory is complete crap
Was the IJN better than the royal navy? Could the British have successfuly took back Malaysia or Indonesia without american intervention?
>>10304923Island hopping.
>>10304923Eventually, yes, they wouldn't lay a finger on Japan until Germany was beaten, and then it would take such a monumental effort and investment to beat Japan that it would've been written off as not worth it. There would be no Midway, or any other major battles, from 1941-45 or whenever it would be that Germany fell. Australia might even be forced to sign peace regardless of what Britain wants if Japan takes Port Moresby and starves them out, but I doubt India would since Japan still can't redirect enough troops there in this timeline.Your question is basically about shipbuilding capacity, and Britain beats Japan in that regard, but that doesn't mean they actually would've seen it through for the sake of a few islands.
>>10304923No and no.
