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When I talk to contemporary homosexuals about the AIDs crisis, they're of the opinion that the government failed the homosexual community and they're responsible for a lot of the damage that happened to the homosexual community during that time. That they were benign and not properly bringing awareness to the issue is the usual complaint.But I'm really failing to see how it's the government's fault. The government did put an effort into AIDs awareness once they realized a problem was there, it just so happened the homosexual community was absolutely devastated before the extent of the disease was realized.
>>8389986based
>>8393142It's been known since the fucking 19th century that STDs spread from sexual intercourse. Fags and other cumbrains, straights included, are almost always contracting and spreading shit. Promiscuity is why these diseases still exist and still mutate. Fags have no excuse. Whores don't blame others.
does anyone have a link to a series of posts (it might have been a blog or feature article) from a gay man who lived through the 1980s/90s and dealt with aids as well as permanent health issues from anal? It was long and discussed the 'scene' at the time, as well as the rectal issues it left him with for the rest of his life.
>>8394438Do you mean "Surviving Gay"?
>>8394438https://josephsciambra.com/surviving-gaybarely/
Why do Americans put France as a people that always surrenders? literally france marked the history of mankind with a multitude of victories>Gauls plunder Rome>Gauls wreak havoc in Asia Minor>Franks defeat the Huns>Franks defeat the Arabs in Tours avoiding the Arab conquest of Europe>Franks defeat the Pannonian Avars>Franks humiliate Turks in crusades>Normans conquer Sicily and Tunisia>France expels the English>France humiliates Native Americans>conquest of algeria>France supports the independence of the United States>french revolution>napoleon on tour in europe>France conquers VietnamComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Any historian worth his salt knows that France is one of, if not THE, most militarily successful nation in history.
>>8389896You forgot>Rome Plunders gaul>Napoleon beat out of Russia>Napoleon beat by a man who has food named after him>Getting ass raped in the franco-Prussian war>Losing so many people in WWI that soldiers flat out refused to fight>Being overrun in 46 days in what should have been a stalemate>You forgot the miscarriage that was the vichy franchCan we stop to take a second and observe that the french lost WWII TWICE!!>BTFO Vietnam>BTFO literally of Africa>Currently being colonized by the nation of islamComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>8393887The Prussians surrendered after a decisive defeat,the French surrendered because the Germans had outsmarted them. The difference is the French still had an intact army when they surrendered and could have kept fighting
>>8394450>The Prussians surrendered after a decisive defeatCaused by the French outsmarting them>the French surrendered because the Germans had outsmarted themThus causing a decisive defeat>The difference is the French still had an intact army when they surrendered and could have kept fightingWrong, most of the French army had been eliminated and 70% of the country (including all of the most important locations) had fallen when France surrendered
>>8389896>Surrenders to Prussia>Twice in the same century.
Reminder social democracy are moderate fascists.
I'm getting really confused by the origins of the Quran. It seems like the easiest explanation for why it exists is to just accept the Islamic account. I don't understand why we still haven't found any pre-Islamic scriptural sources for the Quran, I don't understand why Muhammad would make up the entire religion when he didn't have anything to gain for most of his life.
>>8393212Allah comes from the Syriac Elaha which is cognate with the Hebrew Elohim you nitwit.
Try looking into "The Syro-Aramaic Reading of the Quran." It makes the most sense when interpreted through Syriac and Aramaic traditions.Additionally, also look into Dan Gibson and his theory that Mecca isn't the real Mecca, and it is instead Petra. The Scholar proves this by showing how all the earliest mosques point to Petra as opposed to Mecca.
>>8393965>nitwitI didn't realize we had boomers on this board
Reminder that Yahweh was a Bedouin God
>>8393972>Dan GibsonIs a retard
>We are not so different, you and I...
>>8380587Both are left wing
>>8380664based
>>8394206>Both are left wingBoth are right wing totalitarian states.
>>8380664>Every single death under communism was like an Aztec sacrificeMore like a cow paddy being burned.
>>8380664>latifundiaI know you didn't know that word until Matt Christman said it
Who would win?
>>8394010>Meem would be cucked by Turko-Scythians very soon.I'm more worried about those totally indefensible Mesopotamian borders getting attacked by two persias
>>8392565Roor would fucking dominate, imagine have 2 Romes go at it.
>>8392565before the islamic invasions, meem
This completely depends on where they're situated geographically relative to each other
>>8392565roor for sure. Roor is basically a huge archipelago, while Meem is surrounded by possibly hostile land on all sides
>defeats French>defeats Americans>defeats Cambodians>defeats ChineseBased?
>>8394025there are 22 mcdonalds in vietnam
>>8394025mcdonald
>>8394025Mdondolds are closing in Vietnam they didn't catch on. Also for the 1100000th time if the war were about whether there should or shouldn't be a Micky D's in Da Nang then yeah the US would've won. But it wasn't, it was over "should Vietnam be unified under a Northern Government?" And the Americans said no and then the north unified it lmao. To this day Vietnam is one of the few truly independent countries, they're balancing China and the Jew SA in a dangerous game but hey they're not sad puppets like North Korea or Germany
>>8394019>frances goal is to continue occupation of vietnam>they fail to do so>declare victory>chinas goal is to occupy vietnam>they fail to do so>declare victorysorry retard
>>8394460>frances goal is to continue occupation of vietnam>they fail to do soThe French kept occupying Vietnam after the Sino-French WarChina's goal was to kick them out and failed>chinas goal is to occupy vietnam>they fail to do so>declare victoryExactlyChinks declare victory even in defeat
When did Ukrainian Nationalism see its great rise? When did it spread and take over?Most of the people in the western half of Ukraine referred to themselves as "Russian" at least until the October Revolution of 1917. There was a minority in Austria-Hungary that promoted the name "Ukraina" and claimed a separate existence from Muscovy, the so called "Great Russians." They were joined by a minority in the Russian Empire.According to my understanding the rise occurred around WWII. It was a combination of stimuli:1. During WWI, Ukrainian nationalists in Austria-Hungary ratted out Russophiles in their community, and the government retaliated against these would-be allies of Russia (See Talerhoff). This resulted in a strengthening of the Ukrainian movement as those who did not go along with it were killed or fled behind the Russian front line.2. Soviet Korenization and the creation of the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic granted backing to the Ukrainian idea.3. The Holodomor created a powerful reaction to the Soviet regime. People banded together and used Ukrainian nationalism as an alternative identity to the Soviet identity. Although the Holodomor affected regions outside of the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, the nationalists claimed that it was a genocide against them.4. Operation Barbarossa provided an opportunity to break off of the Soviet Union, which appealed to Ukrainian nationalists, who enlisted in the Wehrmacht in large numbers. It was also an event that would cause the deaths of those who did not go along with Ukrainian nationalism, just like during WWI.5. Immediately after the war, lots of Ukrainians flooded into western countries for protection from the Soviets, where they formed very strong, or perhaps chauvinistic, community centers and schools, teaching their version of history.What I am curious about are the alternative theories.
>urkaine>ukrainian>urkainiansNo such things.>holodomemeNever happened.
>>8393415This meme map only justifies Russian claims on Ukraine. Never use stupid propaganda as an educational source. >>839441915 rubles per post
>>8393415>of Ukraine referred to themselves as "Russian"Rusyn and russkiy s a different thing. Russia stole Kievan Rus's identity in 1721. At the same time people from Western Ukraine still had they Rus identity, which got nothing in common with so called "russia"
>>8394419sip of vodka per post
Be African>poor but free with access to natural resources when there aren't roving tribal gangs pillaging and rapingOrChina>absolutely zero human rights or freedom, total dystopia of sludging misery in overpopulated overworked and dirty cities and rice fields
>>8394124Jokes on you I only talk to people under the age of 10.
>>8394100But Mongols aren't racist
>>8394043puk
>>8394043Ask why you see Africans moving to China but not Chinese moving to Africa for work (except to be slave masters)
>>8394111>As for distant ancient China... yeah kung fu monks is ok.What did he mean by this? Ancient china conscripted peasants who won with crossbows and horses, not martial arts.
uggghhhh.... what couldve been
>>8389113What map program are you guys using?
>>8393541>map programFUCKING PAINTGod, we get a dozen of these replies every fucking thread. It's called Microsoft Paint.
>>8389388>>8389452>>8390197>>8393541
>>8389064FUCK IM COOMING
Was the victorian era the best era to live in?>top tier fashion>just the right amount of technology to live comfortably but not feel the degree of alienation and purposelessness we feel today>rise in nationalism>relatively peaceful time for a lot of countries>traditional values>right amount of secularism and religiosityNot even a Brit
>>8393370They even have no mercy on their own species. Imagine what they would do to our species.
>>8393360This, jungle bunnies are dangerous.
>>8391221If you weren't w*rking class, sure.
>>8391227>>8391527>YOU'D BE A CHIMNEY SWEEPthe majority of people were skilled workers or some flavor of lower-middle class
>>8391857>>8393293>>8393304you guys know they just wore less layers and lighter fabrics right?
Why is the world so unequal?
>communist guerrillas and corrupt statist generalissimos completely destroy a country>"western corporations bought some bauxite from this country therefore they completely control it and are responsible for everything that happens in it, the problem is not war, corruption and instability but my boss scolding me for not showing up on time"
>>8393555>>8393594>>8394249>im 15 and this is edgy
>>8394321Based.
>>8394404>>im 15 and this is edgyunfortunately no edge was intended in this post, just bringing forth the idea that both individuals and societies should govern themselves with little to no outside influence
>>8394433that's a moral absolute fantasy with no bearing on realityto use an example that you might sympathize with, if le evil capitalist factory owner is dumping waste in a river and you live downstream you absolutely should try to impose your will on him
Was Idi Amin justified or a mad man?
>>8394009Redpill me on this nigger
>>8394076Elaborate
Just a dictator whose domestic forms of legitimization in recently independent Uganda seemed funny to britbongs. Don't think he was insane, but nationalistic boasting can sound really weird without the right cultural context.
>>8394172He created systematic errors which likely contributed to many people's deaths.And he did so due to the debts he acquired. He's essentially Uganda's Caesar.
>>8394087He was the average African strongman but he provided more memes than the average African strongman. Nobody cared about him until Entebbe. Once he sent a message to the queen of England asking her to have sex.reminder that Milton Obote was way worse than Idi Amin but no-one has heard of the atrocities in the Loweero Triangle
Didn't he say he was being a bit hyperbolic in this very same writing? Or was that another one?
>>8394434Nope he didnt have very good words for the jews either
>>8394439That was a fake. Anglos are kindred spirits with God's Chosen.
>>8394420Yes. Unfortunately Americans' view on race has deteriorated to the point of absurdity.
