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This board is dedicated to the discussion of history and the other humanities such as philosophy, religion, law, classical artwork, archeology, anthropology, ancient languages, etc. Please use /lit/ for discussions of literature. Threads should be about specific topics, and the creation of "general" threads is discouraged.

For the purpose of determining what is history, please do not start threads about events taking place less than 25 years ago. Historical discussions should be focused on past events, and not their contemporary consequences. Discussion of modern politics, current events, popular culture, or other non-historical topics should be posted elsewhere. General discussions about international culture should go on /int/.

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>3.9 million direct famine deaths
Where did all the corpses go? It seems to me that so called "Holodomor" is nothing more than a myth invented by post-Soviet Ukraine to use as a tool against Russia in politics.
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>its a political tool so it never happened
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In the ground.
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Why not eat the corpses?
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Capitalists use the supposed famine as an excuse to discredit the Soviet Union.

Supporters of the genocide myth are mostly Ukranian nationalists who want to retroactively hit out at the Soviet state for crushing nationalist and fascist ambitious during WW2 and the pre-war period.
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What about the famines in india and ireland while they exported food to britain?

Who is better at history podcasts? Mike Duncan or Dan Carlin?
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>>6323608
Carlinnis really good at bringing ancient history to life, medieval too, but his modern histoory is meh.
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>>6323608
John Green vs Mike Duncan in a fist fight, who would win?
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>>6323652
huh?
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>>6323649
No.
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Dan is actually fun to listen to, Mike Duncan put me to sleep.

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I made a Turkmen friend yesterday, but he looks white

I made research on Turkmen people and they look like pic related

How come they look European ? Why aren't they slenty eyed like the other Turks ?

Is it because they live next to Russia ? Which prompts me to ask where the original Turkic people white ? Did they become yellow once they moved further east ?

Or is it possible that Turkic people are actually Slavs like the Russians ?

I don't get it
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Turkmen tribes were still raiding northern Iran (and especially Persian caravans) for slaves into the 19th century. It was a big point of pride for a Turkmen to confess how many slaves he has taken. Most of them were sold to Uzbeks in Transoxiana but obviously a lot were also kept for themselves.
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>>6324174
Turks were once white, they have slanty eyes and dark skin due to mixing with Greeks.
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>>6324174
They assimilate lot of iranian nomads
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>>6324174
Their YDNA is mostly western eurasian meaning r1a/b and J.
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>>6324226
It's actually mostly Q.

How were African women treated during the colonial era?????
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>>6322846
>Africa threads are constantly derailed
Kind of like what you are doing right now?

Jackass
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>>6323296
You're right and I'm a hypocrite.
But I'd rather have discussion of this nature compared to retard IQposters or people screeching the word nigger and babbling about how Africans never have and never will amount to anything.
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>>6323280
>Europeans only had relations with local women due to the lack of their own women or for business ties (slave trade). Once those the latter was negated and colonial migration was feasible for entire families or couples.

Hey to be honest people to this have the exotic beaty fetish, so I don´t think it would be that weird for an italian to go to eritrea just to get some action with the locals
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>>6323344
>so I don´t think it would be that weird for an italian to go to eritrea just to get some action with the locals

When settlers came over they mostly came with family.
Not to say there weren't any but they were few in number.
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1. Anglo
2. Nord/Germanic
3. French
4. Spanish, Southern European
5. Other Mediterranean people (excl MENA)
6. East Asian & Chinese
7. Eastern European & Russian
8. Central Asian, S/E Asian
9. Native Americans
10. Jew
11. Indian & subcontinental
12. Sub Saharan African
13. Australian Aboriginal
10. MENA

Has Islam ever been a truly pacifying factor or a true cause for solidarity among Muslim nations (aside from political and ethnic concerns)? Why do many Muslim groups fight each other against the wishes of the Prophet, much less on the sacred months specifically forbidden for warfare in the Quran?
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>>6322638
Most Saudi tribal Arabs hate Khashoggi and denigrate him for his non-Arab Turkish ancestry calling him agent of Turkey.
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>>6322638
Arab Bedouins in Israel serve in the IDF against Levantine Palestinians. And normalization of ties with Israel isn't the main agenda, beating Turkey and the Muslim Brotherhood is. Turkey has full diplomatic relations with Israel and an embassy. Saudi Arabia does not.
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>>6322638
Ottomans used to do worse than bonesaws and the Muslim Brotherhood and Turkey want them back.
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>>6322638
Do you support the Muslim Brotherhood?
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>>6322119
>That one hadith where Mohammed says the side of the head of Satan will rise from the Najd
https://sunnah.com/bukhari/15/32

To be honest, if there's one thing I can respect about commies it's that their leaders tended to look kind of ugly.
It's a bit of a problem with the right-wing because they always seemed to have a kind of homosexual and effete fascination with appearance.

What are some things you respect about the other side, about those you absolutely detest and abhor?
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>>6323911
Looks like a character profile in a video game
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>>6323918
t. kulak
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>>6323404
Doesn't matter how you looked, it matters how you are immortalised.
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>>6324063
>there is still no russian revolution RPG where you get to play as stalin, lenin or trotsky during 1917-1922 period
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>>6323404
There were some good looking ones.

>You will never experience the timeline where 9/11 never happened

How much better off would we be?
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>3,000 more mutts in the world
no thanks
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>>6324212
>For the purpose of determining what is history, please do not start threads about events taking place less than 25 years ago. >Historical discussions should be focused on past events, and not their contemporary consequences.

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itt we draw a historical event, others have to guess what it is
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>>6323471
the mongolian baron
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>>6321705
Russians retreating at Austerlitz across a frozen lake and being pounded by French artillery.
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>>6322045
ARVN soldiers trying to jump on that plane during the fall of da nang?
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>>6322045
Indian Airlines Flight 814
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Why did the USSR destroy the Aral sea?
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>>6324087
1) Paranoia isn't rational.
2) They didn't see a contradiction because, for them, both international labour and international capital were conspiring against the nation-state. They didn't like foreign workers, they didn't like foreign companies, they didn't like like foreign banks, etc.
3) Big businesses and banks from the west did cooperate with the Bolsheviks. It just wasn't a jewish thing, it was a mutual benefit thing: businesses got paid, banks got interest, the bolsheviks got technology and expertise - race wasn't a factor.
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>>6322775
Wasn't it because of a botched project of sorts which was abandoned when the Soviet Union collapsed?
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>>6324130
It became two botched projects of sorts by two countries that can't coordinate for shit.
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>>6324024
>nytimes
Ah yes
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>>6324067

I love Medieval art. The color, stylization and distorted sense of perspective is just kino. Post your faves
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Where muh snailz at?
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>>6322826
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>>6322841
WHERE THE HOOD, WHERE THE HOOD, WHERE THE HOOD AT
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>>6322841
This. Post the snails nigga
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How did Rome's enemies formation survive getting pilum'd at point blank range?
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>>6324163
Shields, regrouping, throwing javelins themselves etc.

Also
>Barbarians
>Formations
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>>6324163
Most of them didn't.the ones who were lucky to have shields were rendered useless

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Will Russia keep on chimping out throughout history until it gets its warm water ocean port?
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>>6321621
can you give even 1 example of Russia chimping out?
Every single bad thing, every war that happened in the entire world in the last 200 years can easily be traced back and blamed on either USA or Germany, what did the imaginary Russian scary boogeyman do to you?

I still remember the boner-inducing clips of Russians wiping off ISIS from the map in Syria in like 2 days, while the American halfbreeds couldnt do it in 3 years.
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>>6321696
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0bZD05uWp9H
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>>6324030
Stay mad, you sub-khokhol level IQ baltoid.
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>>6321686
The Mediterranean is still boxed in by Suez and Gibraltar which are owned by an American vassal and Great Britain. Russia cannot be safe until the Anglo encirclement of their country is smashed
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>>6321621
What about Kaliningrad, Novorossiysk and Vladivostok?

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Why couldn't the Pagans beat the Christians?
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>>6323259
>German customs
such as? In whole Europe? Mmmmmm
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>>6324126
Look at this board from time to time and you'll see
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>>6324129
WOW THANK YOU FOR THAT CONCRETE EVIDENCE SIR
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Precisely we're touching the thing in class, it's about the nature of the religion, at. Least in Rome times it was due the fact the Christianity was patronal instead of contractual(I care for you in exchange of devotion, instead of the Roman style of appease me with the right rituals and i'do shit happen)
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>>6324171
Not him but literally every thread on the Trinity prompts a string of posts from Christians unwittingly posting heresies. It's pretty clear most Christians don't get the Trinity.

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why do people freak the fuck out when I tell them I work for pic
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>>6323839
>Why are they no longer as big as they once were?
State monopoly on violence, with all the 3 letter organizations they really can't serve much of a purpose for the government anymore
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>>6323488
because every pinkerton should hang
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>>6323488
Probably because they played RDR
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>>6323488
I played bioshock infinite and i remember they beat up trade union workers or something
Is that true?
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>>6323488
video games


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