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This board is dedicated to the discussion of history and the other humanities such as philosophy, religion, law, classical artwork, archeology, anthropology, ancient languages, etc. Please use /lit/ for discussions of literature. Threads should be about specific topics, and the creation of "general" threads is discouraged.

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>>5822149
Who draw this?
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>>5822149
Pincer attack with Japan could have defeated Soviet Union but Japs were retards and Germany could still get nuked by Yanks.
Best Chance of winning would be to befriend Stalin and abstain from attacking USSR. If they planned to attck them why give them half of Poland?
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>>5822149
Making Japan not bring the US into it
Investing early on in some decent landing craft so they could invade Britain
Don’t attack Stalin until the situation in the West is fully under control
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>>5822149
by winning ww1, thus not starting ww2. aka kaiserreich
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>>5822186
>>not losing, staying the hegemon of Europe
by not invading the USSR and not declaring war on the US
Not possible either, Germany's entire economic revival worked around building a massive arms industry. Also, they went into debt while doing it hoping to pay it using spoils of war

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What would have happened if he decided to nuke cuba?
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>only USSR gets collapsed
>USA USA USA
Ok.
But it would have resulted in a better world since most other countries didn't have to launch nukes. It would have been a white-free world.
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>>5830212
The world become a better place after 80% yanks and 30-40% rest of the humanity is wiped out
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>>5830633
becomes*
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>>5830634
Became*

That future already could exist.
We need to trigger a russian american war.
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>>5830212
price of cigars increases

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Did the Homo Sapiens Cro-Magnons who first entered Europe even know that Neanderthals were a different species when they met and interbred with them?
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>>5830623
>discarding data because of sample size in favor of preconceived ideas without data at all
Idiot.

And if the data doesn't demonstrate a general case it proves at least that regular warfare can exist in hunter-gatherer societies.

The idea that these cases are aberrations doesn't pass occam's razor.
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>>5811538
if they lived close to the equator then yes
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>>5830685
Go fuck a cactus retard. Backtracking, damag control and apologetics for your debunked and refuted source isn't gonna make it any less discarded.
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>>5830685
>Get's BTFO
>Uses special pleading fallacy
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>>5830722
It proves that you are an idiot not by accident but by your own design.
I had to check, because I for one don't make my opinions before having information.

What happened to all the Turks in the Balkans?
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>>5830624
converted to orthodoxy
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>>5830624
They comprise the majority of the modern balkan population :^)
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>>5830624
They became greek
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There were never that many Turks in the Balkans. There were a lot of Islamized Balkanites who were either converted to Christianity, forced out, or still live in those places unchanged.
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>>5830749
tartar turks

Why?
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>>5830324
>dogs bond to us at least 60,000 years ago and offer us thousands of years of protection and companionship
>repay them by degenerating their species into a hellish shell of its former self

>:(
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>>5830675
I blame women, their incessant need to make things cute created rat dogs
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>>5830715
I doubt that the trend was instigated by women but this desire that you mentioned no doubt increasingly exacerbates it. Every women whom I've discussed to any degree the degeneration of animal breeding has ended their argument by saying "but they're cute..."
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>>5830715
I blame white males and their tendency to bitch about everyone else before themselves
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>>5830743
Are you implying I’m wh*te?

How long does the idea of Pan-Europeanism exist? Has there ever actually been any real sense of European identity beyond being white and Christian?
The Roman empire gets mentioned by EU federalists, but it's a pretty weak claim considering the Romans thought of Africa and Egypt as more civilized and integral to their empire than Gaul or Dacia
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>>5830611
>>5830611
I'm sure we can unite behind Centurion-chan.
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>>5830611
>Romans thought of Africa and Egypt as more civilized and integral to their empire than Gaul or Dacia
Source?
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>>5830622
The EU is definitely not a white supremacist creation, you idiot
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>>5830646
>tfw she will never be real
God it hurts
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>>5830611
>Pan-Europeanism
Like >>5830622 mentioned, it's really mostly one of Wilson's pet projects than one with a proper historical basis. Even old "international" political movements, like the Mazzini's Giovine Europa, were more of a response to European absolutism and occupation by other (European) countries than a pan-European movement. Napoleonic Europe came close, though, and revolutionised the means of government within the occupied countries.

The justification for a pan-Europeanism is really more economic than cultural nowadays. It was a (legitimate) method for smaller, more vulnerable European countries to avoid being at the economic and political mercy of the US or the Soviet Union (probably countries like China nowadays) without fading into irrelevance.

I’m going to post this every day until you remember it
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>>5828414
There's a difference between just being white and being a WHITE anglo-saxon "person"
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>>5826426
based and redpilled
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Pls rembr
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>>5828544
Texas was founded on the singular principal of "Fuck you, I'm Texas."
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>>5828421
>the common people loved him
Santannaboos really believe this

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>The Hodolomor
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>USSR grain export was 3 times lower during the food shortages
>Stalin sold all bread abroad to starve the people
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>>5829007
>No serious scholar denies this.
The anon you replied to supplied actual names, you just say this vague stuff.

Be better, supply sources.
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>>5824364
>Who is deng xiaoping
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>>5830054
>USSR
>1913
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>>5823099
Lets talk about the mexicanocaust instead. How many millions of mexicans died when they were gassed with zyklon B by US goverment?

Tell me about the Bell Beakers.

Were Bell-Beakers a single population or cultural influences that spread in different populations?
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>>5826006
>CHG was 0% ANE to begin with, at least the J1 and J2 guys weren't.

It's a mystery how exctly CHG formed and from what but CHG is like ~60-70% ANE-related+25-30%% basal eursian in monte. Although based on its PCA position ANE that went into CHG was admixed with a different type of mongoloid than Siberian ANEs. ANE/EHG is Amerindian shifted whereas CHG is shifted towards East Asians proper (but is admixed with something not closely related to modern east asians).

>>5826015
>CHG itself is a mixture of ANE and Basal

Yes but their ANE related ancestries were different.
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>>5826117
>ABA population

What is that?
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>>5826218
>Sredny-Stog don't cluster with Yamna

Do you have any PCA with them?
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>>5826558
What study?
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>>5826688
>>5826702
SHGs were deemed that they do not contribute to modern populations. Moderns got it from the EHG.

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>Professor starts asking the female students about their sex lives again
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>>5830697
That's the leftist's utopia
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>>5830684
>White south americans
never seen one
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>>5830668
holy FUCK that is based
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>>5830705
looks more like my sex fantasies
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>>5830689
>>5830708
South american rulers/politicians look white and probably have upwards of 80% white Spanish genes.

Even if you count them out, whites number way over 1 billion. Too many

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How legitimate are claims of modern Russia, Belorussia, and Ukraine about being successors of Ancient Rus?
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>>5830719
romes furthest and most natural extent, pretty good claim
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>>5830719
It's true but only because they are russians in denial.
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>>5830719
> it's just empty land, bro
> there were totally no Finnic tribes east of Rus
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>>5830730
yeah but they didnt join till wwii

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>Damnatio memoriae is a modern Latin phrase meaning "condemnation of memory", i.e., that a person is to be excluded from official accounts. There are and have been many routes to damnatio, including the destruction of depictions, the removal of names from inscriptions and documents, and even large-scale rewritings of history.

>It was a form of dishonor that could be passed by the Roman Senate on traitors or others who brought discredit to the Roman State.[citation needed] The term can be applied to other instances of official scrubbing; the practice is seen as long ago as the reign of the Egyptian pharaoh Hatshepsut in the fourteenth century BC.

Who the fuck still takes ancient history seriously?
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>>5829714
>historical accounts might be biased
wow, what a revelation

The fact the Romans admit it and had to go through a little procedure to do so shows they were exceptionally devoted to the truth compared to their peers that would just fudge records at will and never admit it.

Read between the lines, brainlet.
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>>5829726
shut the fuck up faggot

>dude just study maths but we've removed numbers 2-6 from base 10
>it's still a totally valid and respectable science because we look very closely at 1, 7, 8, 9, 10!
>it doesn't matter that we know we're missing the whole story, we'll just pretend the story we present is the true story, with a minor disclaimer about how history is writen by the victors hehe XD

what an absolute shite cock up of a 'subject'
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>>5829773
>mathematicians look at one apple and three apples
>literally cannot infer the existence of the number Two, sit there paralyzed by lack of other numbers
how the fuck do mathniggers live with being so handheld? historians don't rely on calculators to do everything for them
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>>5830159
>Just make shit up when you have gaps in your information dude
Yea that sounds like history writing

>Geneticist and anthropologists previously suspected that ancient Africans domesticated cattle native to the African continent nearly 10,000 years ago. Now, a team of University of Missouri researchers has completed the genetic history of 134 cattle breeds from around the world. In the process of completing this history, they found that ancient domesticated African cattle originated in the "Fertile Crescent," a region that covered modern day Iraq, Jordan, Syria and Israel.

Why does this information make people so mad?
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Wasn’t that region the cradle of civilization? What exactly do people want? When it got to Africa,they used it right?
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>oh boy a mesolithic subject
Not even fucking OP could finish his 68 word post without diving straight into dick measuring Whatabousisms

fuck the lot of you I just want to enjoy studies on early domestication and pastoralism with you guys
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>>5827929
>Germans are their descendants.

Slavs, Balts, and some Central and West Asians are their main descendats. Germanics have more Dzudzuana and CHG.
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>>5828365
>me build slightly taller mud hut! me smart!
>me make slightly pointier spear! me genius!
>me tired of carry water pot in arms, me carry it in head!
>me think small canoe is not enough for cross water! me make bigger canoe!
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>>5828594
people from modern-day indonesia to be more precise (like Comoros)
like iberians discovered cape verde and other pacific islands before them
or like Arabs discovered Mauritius and Seychelles before them

> China unified thousand years ago
> Europe is still a bunch of meme states
What is a Chinese secret? Why we never figured centralization out?
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>>5830448
Except that's what Christianity was like under the Roman Empire. The Pope only became relevant after the fall of the Western Roman Empire and the Catholic-Orthodox schism was mostly about the pope and Eastern Emperor fighting over who should be the leader of Christendom.

Christianity was adapted to fit Roman needs, and as such reinforced the Emperors rule and the Roman legal system.

The Justinian Code is a good example of this.
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>>5829208
>$0.05 Yuan

Anon....
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>>5828609
Why are you comparing a continent with a country?
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>>5830568
China is better than equal to a continent?
Wew whipipo
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>>5828614
Yes there are no mountain ranges in china and it was always unified at this same modern size throughout history


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