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This board is dedicated to the discussion of history and the other humanities such as philosophy, religion, law, classical artwork, archeology, anthropology, ancient languages, etc. Please use /lit/ for discussions of literature. Threads should be about specific topics, and the creation of "general" threads is discouraged.

For the purpose of determining what is history, please do not start threads about events taking place less than 25 years ago. Historical discussions should be focused on past events, and not their contemporary consequences. Discussion of modern politics, current events, popular culture, or other non-historical topics should be posted elsewhere. General discussions about international culture should go on /int/.

/his/ is not /pol/, and Global Rule #3 is in effect. Do not try to treat this board as /pol/ with dates. Blatant racism and trolling will not be tolerated, and a high level of discourse is expected. History can be examined from many different conflicting viewpoints; please treat other posters with respect and address the content of their post instead of attacking their character.

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Did he speak proper Portuguese, or did he spek the monkey variation that Brazillians speak?
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>>9918704
Actually, the Chinese in Macau mostly don't. Although the tiny local Portuguese and mestizo minority do.
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>>9918644
É uma Hipérbole seu incestuoso do caralho
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>>9918674
The real question is why you think everyone should suck the proverbial dick of the metropole.
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>>9918352
Brazilian sounds like Polish though.
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>>9918740
Nós não soamos como aqueles fdps

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What is the ideal age of a leader to rule a country?
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>>9918751
10 years old
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>>9918751
30-60
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>>9918751
40-50. I honestly think the west is collapsing because of senility in the ruling class. The average age of US Congress is 64. That means there are just as many above as there are below.

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>Military history is not the only history

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What was the worst genocides in history (in terms of number of people of people killed compared to the global population at the time)?
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>>9917658
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority#Appeal_to_false_authority
>It is also a fallacious ad hominem argument to argue that a person presenting statements lacks authority and thus their arguments do not need to be considered.[36] As appeals to a perceived lack of authority, these types of argument are fallacious for much the same reasons as an appeal to authority.
This is exactly what you're doing.
Not that it matters, here >>9913551 you already made it perfectly clear he could have your snowflake qualifications and his opinion wouldn't matter anyway.
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>>9917757
>snowflake qualifications
I don't think it's too much to ask that a person being cited by an article on the Gallic Wars actually be an expert on the Gallic Wars.

The problem isn't that he has an opinion, the problem is that it's being cited as if he's an authority on the subject.

>It is also a fallacious ad hominem argument to argue that a person presenting statements lacks authority and thus their arguments do not need to be considered
But I did consider his arguments. And I spent three detailed posts explaining why they're bullshit.


You're the one who's ignored the main content of my posts and pretended that I'm dismissing Henige's ideas out of hand. What fallacy is that?
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>>9917927
>You're the one who's ignored the main content of my posts and pretended that I'm dismissing Henige's ideas out of hand. What fallacy is that?
They seemed mostly conjecture ("I also find it highly suspicious", "I think it's credible", "It's entirely possible", "it seems improbable",....) and why we should throw historical criticism out of the window because historians have been wrong before.
>just that I have more confidence in his figures than modern historians who, when all is said and done, are mostly just pulling numbers out of their ass. I have yet to see any compelling evidence to believe their numbers over any ancient source except for the obviously fantastic ones.
Don't expect to be taken too seriously when writing shit like that.
Anyway i was merely pointing out >>9917379 that
>Henige, actually specialises in African studies. Which would explain his ignorance of 1st century BC Gaul
isn't an argument, and he's still a historian whether you like it or not.
>"1+1=3, i think that's not right"
>you only have a masters in math, not even a phd, stfu

>What fallacy is that?
Pointing out fallacies isn't a fallacy as far as i'm aware. Well, at least you don't try to hide your appeal to authority while at the same time dismissing modern historians as "mostly just pulling numbers out of their ass".
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>>9912774
Its getting to the point where i cant tell apart the actual commies from the /pol/ false flaggers, you both sound equally stupid
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>>9908526
Yet somehow the Romans lost in Gergovia.

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With masturbation machines
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>>9918709
>masturbation machines
Never existed. Just denier cope.
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>>9918718
Antisemitic holocaust minimizer detected. Look at him concern trolling about deniers. Pathetic.
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>>9918729
Shut your trap. No one but deniers even talks about masturbation machines. If you go to any historian and ask him about them, the response will always be a confused "What?"
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I'm legit tempted to make up some kind of retarded claim about the Holocaust to see if deniers will take the bait.

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Did Christianity make the Roman Empire fall, or did it contribute to it's fall?
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yes
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>>9918712
no, it made it last until 1452
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Contributed but it probably wasn’t the primary cause.
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>>9918712
Yes, the gods stopped protecting the empire after it converted to Christianity.

That's why it was sacked and overran not long after becoming Christian.
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>no goy it isn't because of abandoning the gods that rome was sacked
>wre falls entirely 50 years later

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how long can you uphold a claim on land? zionists claimed israel on a claim that's as old as written history. azeris declared war claiming land that didn't even have any azeris living there, chasing away armenians. nobody in germany on the other hand really cares about the land they lost 70 years ago.
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The only claim one can make is with force. Any claim is valid as long as you have the ability to defend and enforce that claim. I can claim to be the ruler and possessor of Mars if I have the ability to travel there and enforce my own sovereignty. So in the case of the Zionists, the only claim they had was due entirely to the support provided to them by the west... if they didnt have this it wouldve remained entirely Arab.
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>>9917842
>how long can you uphold a claim on land?
Ask native Americans, they prolly know.
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You can't because it's an arbitrary number. People will scream about "muh Native american land" whilst at the same time talking about how America "stole" land from Mexico.
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>>9917882
roughly fifteen thousand years
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>>9917851
This.
2nd post best post.

Romans noticed North Europes obsession with height before brutally raping them.

“When sieging a Gaulish fortress, the Romans found the defences to be impenetrable so started constructing a siege tower. The Gauls laughed and mocked the Romans short stature, compared to the great size of their bodies, and treated it with contempt. They asked what buildings such short beings could build. But after the siege tower was constructed, and started moving to the Gaulish fortress at a great speed, the Gauls sued for peace, saying only divine will could cause the tower to move as the Romans had moved it. The Romans promptly burned their town and massacred the inhabitants.”
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>>9918594
And look were the greeks are now...
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>>9918630
Nothing lasts forever. Look where the british and germans are now... I guess every great thing must come to an end when you notice Turks becoming your neighbors
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THE ITALIANS AND SPANISH ARE MIXED WITH ARABS AND THE ROMAN EMPIRE WAS THE CAUSE OF THE JEWS MOVING TO EUROPE, ALSO FOR CHRISTIANITY WIPING EUROPES NATIVE CULTURE OUT
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>>9918502
>short
>small penis
>builds tower to compensate
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>>9918696
fuck off varg

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The most ruthless man in American history
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Literally who?
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>>9918475
He helped Hank and Cotton so he wasn't that bad
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>>9918475
He was Alexander the Great of peanut farming

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>threads in this board: What language did X speak? What genetics does Y have? What if Z happened? Which religion should i follow?

>threads that could be on this board: Discussion about actual historical events.

I know that the issue is you need actual knowledge for talking about historical events, which is why it's so sparse, but seriously: Doesn't it get boring? Not only is talking about this incosequential minute bullshit absolutely boring, but it's the same shit over and over again. Don't you just get tired of it?
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>>9918442
I’m actually an adjunct at a state university (desperately looking for a TT position.) but i am a political scientist, not a historian. I come here to shitpost. I don’t care.
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>>9917919
i guess you're right
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>>9918655
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>>9917919
Reminder to everyone that agrees with this that reporting works because /his/ has jannies and mods, who seem to care about this board
Its YOUR fault when you bump that shitty "." thread or post a based basedjack to epic btfo that other faggot that posted once in the thread with 100 replies
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>>9918732
jannies and mods have a sleeping scheudule, dumbass.
this is evident by the fact that at night, the board becomes 10x shittier.

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We will rise again
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>>9918153
Not to build the pyramids as the image implies, you seedless watermelon. >>9918307
Source on a well documented strike during the reign of Ramses III.
>https://www.ancient.eu/article/1089/the-first-labor-strike-in-history/
Sources staded in the bottom of the article.
>The tomb found in Giza contained artisans, craftsmen and royal architects alike with ceremonial offerings for the afterlife.
Why would you do this for even 1 slave?
Wouldn't you just burn their body or get rid of it in some other way if they really were an expandable human resource?
>They were peasants forced into building a giant tomb for their lord by hand under the burning sun and the flailings of a hippo-skin whip
This little poetry you put together clearly shows how influenced you have been by the modern media. The workers was on the job for three months at a time and then allowed to return to their families for some time before going back. The only historical claim there is that slaves build the pyramids comes from the Greek historian Herodotus, which has been debunked by numerous archeological evidence. The general consensus of aegyptologist around the world is that the pyramids were not built by slaves, and I choose to belive these men and women whom have dedicated their lives to study this amazing ancient civilization over what people think on an Filipino leatherworking forum.
Also staging this thread because it's a thinly veiled /pol/thread/wewuz posting
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>>9915215
A multicultural society which regularly collapsed, fell into civil wars, and kept hopping from theocratic dictatorship to theocratic dictatorship, yes.
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>>9918633
>contained artisans, craftsmen and royal architects
So, nothing about the actual workers who built the pyramids?
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>>9913244
WE
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>>9915168
>>9916753
>payed

They missed their biggest opportunity of spreading communism globally.
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>unable to defeat finnish farmer boys
>"why didn't they conquer all of Europe?"
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>>9918253
They defeated them you utter retard.
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>>9914165
Because it would be easier to do in 1975 but they were too nice to do so.
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>>9917670
All of this is exxagerated bullshit.
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>>9916262
>Unthinkable
Completely insane. In that case? Soviet victory guaranteed.

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And what's your refutation to this?
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>>9918070
It’s about disease control, yes. You cannot give commands to a plague, but humans can be ordered and have their behavior altered.
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Vietnam has only had about 1000 cases since being the first hit, out of 100 million. They had experience with SARS before and literally all they had to do was put on their masks.

If Americans did the same in quick order we almost certainly would not need a lock down. You wouldn't need to follow the arrows, you wouldn't need to scald your hands with alcohol, you wouldn't need to keep 2 meters apart at all times.
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>>9918118
>b-but muh freedums
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>>9918070
This is the single largest and most intrusive quarantine in history and it's for one of the least deadly pandemics the world has ever seen. If people correlated the "high amount" of covid deaths with the fact that most of the western world's largest age cohort if >65 we wouldnt be freaking out. But nope, the boomers have to live forever guys, just keep chucking yourselves out of your prime years so the boomers can stay alive just a little bit longer.
You cant refute it, politicians are scared of death because they know they as re getting older.
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>>9918070
take your meds schizo

The Weimar Republic in mere 14 years produced:
> Metropolis
> M
> nosferatu
> The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari
> All Quiet on the western front
> Siddhartha by Herman Hesse
> The magic mountain by Thomas Mann
> Berlin Alexanderplatz

Nazi Germany in 12 years of its existence produced:
> Triumph of the will. A boring proganda film that didn’t even advance film making like it’s often claimed. All the film techniques used in the triumph of the will had already been used before. It’s just no one had wasted so much money just to make a boring propaganda film about people mindlessly marching and sieg heiling.

Why does this say about nazi germany? Why were they so artistically dead inside that the only thing they could produce was a propaganda film?
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>>9916458
the translation is accurate ("Fänge" in German means the same).
>then clutches could be understood as being the bite.
That would still make it nonsensical, because Hitler is specifically saying that "if you've never been in its clutches, you'll never feel the bite".
So obviously those are two different things.

> Furthermore just because someone famous said something doesn't make it true.
True, but I think Orwell provides ample reasoning and evidence to support his claims.
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"Le Feu: journal d'une escouade" > "Im Westen nichts Neues"
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>>9915591
Source: it was real in my head and also stormfront.org
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>>9911468
Is this a copypasta or a schizo obsessed with trannies? I see it everywhere and on every board.
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>>9911105
This is true, but there's a reason why you focused on videos, why tripe like All Quiet replaces a Weimar author like Jünger, why Heidegger is absent, and why you compare the finale of a culture's decline to its penultimate period rather than its peak.




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