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Which ones are gay or trans?
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Why not do it now?
It's never too late.
Also by the queers
It actually might be at this point, although either way I just don't know if I'm cut out for it desu. I'm already pretty old and have kind of a wide build, but due to skeletal structure and not being especially buff, so in addition to not having a narrow graceful look despite being thin I'm not sure how easily I could lift people.

Although I guess it's true that I still might be able to learn it casually just for personal enjoyment, I just never thought about that before. Are there classes like that? It seems like adults only do ballet if they're really serious about it and hope to perform someday.
There are plenty of adult recreational classes offered everyday in various schools/studios, especially in bigger cities. In Toronto area, there are probably 10+ of these kind of places.
I started a few years ago in my late 20s, but I do look young and often pass as a regular student there.
Many other adult guys I see there, however, come in many different ages, shapes and sizes. People usually don't judge since everyone is there just to enjoy themselves.
Hmm. I live in kind of a rural area, but there's a decent arts scene anyway, so if there are classes like that I wouldn't be surprised if there's one within reasonable distance. And shit, I look young too, I'm thirty but everyone assumes I'm about a decade younger, so I guess I wouldn't have to worry about standing out after all. I'd be glad if there were other older guys there too.

You know, I think I'll actually look into this. Thanks, anon.

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you just got dabbed on
lgbt btfo
liberals btfo
discord trannies btfo
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But has there been an actual organized boycott in place and not just angry people calling for one out on the internet for a bit in 2012 before moving on to something else?
Not cope, I'm Canadian and couldn't care less about a restaurant I've never, nor will never visit. It's just that as a person who analyzes stuff like this, I care that proper methodology occurs. I'd say the same if their sales went down by 50%, or stayed the same.
>I'm Canadian
Because LGBT folk have, by far, the highest rate of sexually-transmitted disease, statistically. "Don't give blood, LGBTs!" is easier than potentially infecting some dude in surgery or screening every single unit of blood. Same applies to organs.

>t. bisexual

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How to find a dominant tranny to take care of me?
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What do you mean?
But we could be like a clownfish and a sea anemone
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I won't find a person like that because you're worthless.
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it that... is that a dominant tranny mommy?


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How does this scene make you feel, anon?
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I self-inserted as the man and it made my manpussy hard and slimy.
Jealous af.
>man pussy
Sounds like a medical condition to me anon
it made my busted pp hard.
i jerked off inserting as the tranny a good half dozen times the first time i saw it

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Well, I've now seen the stereotype that is commonly mentioned on this board in real life. Ben Carson has made some derogatory remarks about trans individuals, claiming that:
>he was worried about “big, hairy men” seeking to enter women’s shelters, [and] that society no longer seemed to know the difference between men and women,”
>He also has said sexual orientation is a choice because men who are otherwise straight have sex with other men in prison. He has asserted that LGBTQ parents are not of “equal value” to straight ones. And he believes businesses and elected officials should have the right to discriminate against LGBTQ people.

What do you make of this /lgbt/?
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That's the stereotype I was talking about in the post. I can see that now, and more often in retrospect now that I think about it.
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>I got blown up on by someone who looked like a dude in a skirt, 3-day-stubble
There's a dude at my University that's basically a dude in a skirt, has stubble and shit. It's really weird, like, try to at least fit in. I'm not transphobic in the slightest, I'm dating a MtF, so I know all about the stuff they go through. But, my GF actually got offended from the dude because she saw him as basically poisoning the well and giving trans people a bad name. I get that you may have to shave a lot more often than cis men, as you can't get away with stubble like a cis dude can. But, that's part of the deal of being trans. Maybe get laser or something. So yeah, I agree, for the most part. Only part I don't agree on is FtM, as I haven't met one, so I can't agree without having experience. But, I will take your word for it
I think with his attempt to show just how anti-trans he is, that he's fucking one of us on the side and desperately trying to cover it up.

C'mon, this pattern N.E.V.E.R. changes.
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It's fucking exhausting and frankly your gf is right, makes the whole bunch look bad. Like I get it, it can sting to be misgendered. But holy fuck, don't fucking implacably screech about an honest mistake.

If you dealt with MtFs like my fwb then you'd think they were all sweeties, but unfortunately it doesn't work like that. As with all things, YMMV.

And yeah, shaving causes problems for MtFs but it's part of the job description.
Yep, it happens. It really comes with practice, because we are conditioned to see "masculine"=he, especially with those beginning to transition. But, so long as you make an effort, the reasonable trans people will be fine with it, may sting, but they get over it.

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i have considered myself transgender for so many years now but remained in the closet and boymoded. but for the past two weeks or so i haven't had any physical dysphoria and actually feel okay with my body. Prob is I still do want the standard woman life of getting married to a nice man and possibly having a family. being a woman in general. idk how i feel about this because right NOW i am not happy, not sad, but OK as a guy. Maybe my subconscious is ignoring my dysphoria just so i don't have to be so sad.
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I've been on hrt for like 8 months now, I thought the dysphoria went away, I was really wrong today. I felt terrible and was in tears for hours and my bf wasn't home either so I couldn't call him.
Have you started down HRT or anything like that?

I know it sucks, my best friend's going down that road. Just steady on and maybe it was a temporary state caused by hormonal imbalance.
i am not on hrt or anything i totally wish i was though. IDK why this is happening which is why i am so worried. I asked a trans friend and he said that sometimes it just goes away for a while.
Sounds like it was just internalized homophobia. Try finding a nice gay guy to settle down with. The world needs more wholesome, family-minded gays like you and less stereotypical promiscuous faggots.
well there's a problem with that, i want to be someones wife. I have always dreamed of being a mother but i personally cant do that. i know that i am not a gay guy.

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I've noticed some commonalities among all the trans people I've met (all 5, not much of a sample size)

And after talking to them I came to realize that they all transitioned NOT because they truly believed they were born the wrong gender, but because they more identified with the gender ROLES of the opposite gender from their birth.

So I have a few questions
>1. How old were you when you first learned of transgenderism (age and year)?
>2. Where/who did you learn it from?
>3. How old were you when you decided you were going to transition (age and year)?
>4. Looking back now, was you decision based on true gender dysphoria or a simple dissatisfaction with traditional gender roles?
>5. Current age, Ethnicity, Nationality, and MtF or FtM (non-binary is a different questionnaire I'm still figuring out, so don't answer)?
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1. 25 around 2017
2. The internet
3. Same as 1
4. Prolly, I don't really know. I haven't ever done anything super manly so probably not due to roles
5. 27 estonian mtf
Aside from sexual violence, men are statistically more prone to acts of public violence like fights, robbery etc. the majority of those incarcerated are men, it's mostly men who die in war even in civilian casualty, and men have higher suicide rates.
Doubtful, myself among others have met far more MtF'S therefore that's the majority
FtMs blend in better with the general population, whether they pass or they don't.
>1. How old were you when you first learned of transgenderism (age and year)?
13, 2014
>2. Where/who did you learn it from?
this retarded board, i thought i was a gnc bi guy, i had dysphoria but couldn't identify it, it manifested itself always as hating how i looked and being jealous of skinny girls at school
>3. How old were you when you decided you were going to transition (age and year)?
14, 2015, diyed at 15
>4. Looking back now, was you decision based on true gender dysphoria or a simple dissatisfaction with traditional gender roles?
all of the above, when people started to treat me as a guy, i shut down and any further development stopped until i figured out i was trans, always hated my body too because i had to have short hair and my face looked retarded, was happy when people mistook me for a girl etc.
>5. Current age, Ethnicity, Nationality, and MtF or FtM (non-binary is a different questionnaire I'm still figuring out, so don't answer)?
18, slavic, polish, MtF
what are you trying to find out?

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What's the most YOLO thing you've done?
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Schizo tranny isn't around anymore to flood the thread with conversations with herself
it's small town hours, you know the drill
>tfw no boring normie bf
you are the boring normie bf delta, literally just walk down to any fast food place and get a job and you're it
delta if you don’t have sex before you’re 30 I swear

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Why are you gay?
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so, who is gay?
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"no one here is gay, we are all trannies" LOL
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The point of being gay is that you like dudes. Those are traits guys have. And I love them.
>want to look almost exactly like her
>don't want tits and want to keep my cockenballz
I wish plastic surgery was affordable so I can be a just chubby enough beauty boi

Why is the r/detrans subreddit filled in a big majority with FtMtF?
Why is it that MtF are much less likely to detransition than FtM?
Is it the taste of male socialisation/male social expectations that gets them or is it something else?

inb4 >they just want to get female privileges back
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Exactly natal female bodies have their highest testosterone on their periods, which explains a lot about guys who have twice to 3 times that in their system
Same. I'm at 4 years and like a part of me is terrified that I'll change my mind, or wake up feeling dysphoria about looking like and being treated like a woman. The nice thing is, I have access to the female support network, so like I don't have to deal with the shit parts of womanhood alone. When I was male and got groped and harassed it was all on me to comfort myself
Probably because MtFs hormones don’t do anything in the first place so they don’t need an online community to go to.
Because nobody likes having periods and tons of low-value men wanting to fuck you (or any men in the case of lesbians) but when most of them get to the point of considering hormones and surgery they realize it's just not for them.
Get so fuckin' dark in here

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S/G = Sexuality or gender status (L, G, B, T, etc.)

Most American S/G: FtM
Most British S/G: Gay
Most German S/G: Bi
Most Polish S/G: MtF
Most Canadian S/G: Bi
Most Australian S/G: Lesbian

Most MtF nationality: Finland
Most FtM nationality: USA
Gayest nationality: UK
Straightest nationality: N/A (numbers are too low)
Most bi nationality: Germany

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what in the hell am I looking at? These are countries, not sexualties?
There's a bar chart on the left of answers for the LGBT question. The plurality is MtF at about 25% of all posters here. Followed by, in order from most populous to least: bi, FtM, gay, lesbian, and straight.
POLL TIME! Suggestions for the next /lgbt/ survey, if I ever decide to make one!

I'm torn between age, occupation, and other boards desu.
O-oh, okay I see it now. Sorry, I'm dumb. Thanks anon.

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>mommy tucks me back before taking me out to dinner to make sure i'm a smooth gurl
>mommy tucks me in when we get home to make sure i'm a comfy gurl
I love my mommy
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Feign incontinence. Mommy wouldn't let her wittle gurl go back to big boy school if she's too ill

This is just an excuse to wear diapers
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>tfw cis male
>tfw mommy mtf gf to diaper me, dom me, and force me to top her
Reality is cruel.
You mean squishy undies? Nothing feels more comfortable

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1. Post the song you're listening to or have last listened to
2. Guess others' LGBT statuses based on their music
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John The Fisherman by Primus. take a guess
cis L
chaotic good G

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First time posting, forgive me if I mess it up. (For additional context, I was homeschooled)

>7 years old, little sister dresses me up in some of her clothes, I liked it, and vaguely remember wearing her Cinderella costume.
>10 years old, I grew my hair out far past shoulder length because I really liked the look of it and people would mistake me for a girl, and I'd pretend like I didn't like being mistaken for one but I loved it.
>Parents make me cut my hair after I misbehave for a week.
>I have nightmares shortly after, of standing in the mirror looking at my long, lovely hair, and then I wake up and try to feel for it only to remember it had been cut, and start crying.
>I had these nightmares for a long time, and I didn't want any pictures taken of me.
>13 years old, hair grew back, people mistook me for a girl constantly as I had a lot of naturally feminine features, and a high enough voice.
>One day I felt a weird urge to dress up in my sister's clothes, so I did so in a private place.
>That was the first time I had masturbated.
>I kept dressing in girls clothes and I'd get an indescribable high from looking at myself in the mirror while wearing them, I looked just like a girl.I felt so complete, so happy just to be me.
>14 years old, I still passed for a girl, but my voice had dropped quite far, I passed up until I opened my mouth.
>15 years old, I get mistaken less and less, and I start to feel worse about my appearance.
>At this point in time I've assumed it to be some sort of fetish. And I am disgusted by it.
>16 years old, I start to get pretty depressed about it and all these feelings I'm having about myself and the strong desires to be a girl that I continue to believe are a creepy fetish.

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>All that did was make me very depressed, and for the first time I felt like killing myself.
>I slowly slipped back into old habits, I always pictured myself as a girl no matter what so it was impossible to masturbate without picturing myself as a girl. Even without feminine clothing.
>18 years old, my hair has grown back for the most part, and was nice and long, well past shoulder length like a girl. My face had changed a lot though, and it became rare to get mistaken.
>Horribly depressed, I didn't know what to do, I wanted to kill myself but was far too cowardly to do so and didn't know how.
>I don't know what's wrong with me.
>19 years old, I finally find out in March what AGP is, and realize that what I have isn't a fetish.
>I started to finally dig up all those emotions and feelings, and start doing a lot of self introspection about myself and what this is.
>Over the course of the next few months, I start to realize just how much I envy women, the only thing I've ever felt jealousy about.
>I start having frequent emotional breakdowns in private about my appearance and desire to be a girl.
>I think I have gender dysphoria
>I figure I have two options, to repress and live the ideal life I wanted, wife, kids, etc. Or to transition and become some sort of freak, neither male nor female.
>Not sure if I could repress, I'd likely find the courage to commit suicide before then.
>Not sure if I could pass, I'd likely commit suicide eventually if I can't.
>With my face and broad shoulders, I don't think I'd ever be able to pass.

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Sounds similar to a lot of stories tranners have.
Minus the parent having weird ass hair cutting punishments.
I male-failed multiple times a day til i was like 19, then it started to go downhill from there and took the plunge at 21.
Ive got broad shoulders but im not really tall - 5'7, 5'8 on a good day.
I was told if youre slightly overweight/muscular your shoulders can look bigger cause they're straightened out more. Dunno if thats true.

Just give it a go and try. I pass way more than i thought i would, especially after i started to care about myself more. Skincare/eyebrows/makeup, ect.
If you're in an informed consent state the appointments are like ~$100 or less without insurance at planned parenthood.
Look into HRT medication more 'cause i heard Spiro leads to side effects or something.

There’s nothing more hilarious than watching tranners use straight up TERF rhetoric to justify why GNC trans people and enbies aren’t actually trans.

>Enbies don’t have shared experience with trans people

but somehow your autistic incel weeb ass has cis female experiences

> Enbies/trenders don’t have dysphoria, you need that quintessential pain and discrimination to be trans

but somehow a bunch of healthy white males have decreed that periods and sex based discrimination aren’t essential to the female experience

>Those trenders wear beards and expect to not be read as men!

if macho ma’am is a woman then a muscly bearded lumberjack is trans if they say they are

>These trenders are setting back trans rights and making me feel unsafe with their bullshit

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Im non binary and have been on hormomes longer and earlier than most of you gangly ass nerds.

They arent entirely wrong, NB people without dysphoria are not trans, if they are heteronormative in gender expression they do not have the same issues as visible trans and stealth trans people.

Its political statements and feeling special for most of them. Maybe if they got off the internet and engaged with trans communities irl itd be different but yeah.

I dont identify as a woman because well i never cared to but i identify with women when i was passing because our experiences with life were similar.
they are literally, by definition, trans. transgender if they express themselves differently than the gender that they were assigned; transsexual if they change their sexual characteristics by taking hormones or getting surgeries
i guess some retards feel insecure with their identity, and think that trying to fit perfectly into the gender binary as 100% male/man or 100% female/woman makes them more valid. so they believe that any kind of androgynous mixture isn't real or some stupid shit
Based op
>transgender if they express themselves differently than the gender that they were assigned

>behaving in a certain way makes you trans

>RIGHTEOUS RAGE dopamin receptors
lol. really reaching for some way to make me sound unreasonable, huh.
>living your formative years as a man
assumptive again
>allows you to escape quite a few female disadvantages
which are likewise not universal, might we point out
>nets you some male ones.
according to you.

We're sorry your privilege theory doesn't really hold water with those of us who were never accepted as 'men' in the first place, but do keep trying. It's cute to watch what disingenuous crock of horseshit you're going to brew up next. Like a game of bingo without the numbers.

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