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>decide to reinstall Reddit and check out the poetry sub
>it's all free verse retardation with no rhythm or meter and it's about virtue signalling topics

let's have a poetry general. post your own or your favorites.
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If you want to be sold, then yes, by all means make something entertaining and simple. If you want to make something that will most deeply resonate with the highest largest number of people across multiple ages (or at least until the language dies out or so radically changes it transforms into something else), then you need form; you need meter; you need Craft and you need Art.

It's just not optional; I don't know what to tell you. No, you don't have to make allusions to Greek legend. No, you don't have to use "thy" or "thine" or "hither" or "thither". You can use plain modern diction if you like, or can even swear if you like. But the basics of linear meter and stanzaic form have been unchanged since Middle English and will continue to be unchanged until English ceases to be English.

Look at Hamilton, for example:

I’m in the cabinet. I am complicit in
Watching him grabbin’ at power and kiss it
If Washington isn’t gon’ listen
To disciplined dissidents, this is the difference:
This kid is out!

Fifteen dactyls followed by two iambs. Not a beat out of place. Falling rhythm to parallel bemoaning and bitching, rising rhythm to parallel action and conviction.

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Partly I was tricked into this
I had my life but wanted his
But every day I thank the Lord
That I didn't fall for discord
Why write this, when the book of Job did it like a zillion years ago a zillion times better?? I dont understand it! I don't understand. I DON't understand.

Like im trying to make it right, like the FIRST line, which is a dooozy, and I just keep hearing
"There was a man, in the land of Uz; whose name was Job, and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil."

THAT's a first stanza.
The devil played a trick on me:
He tricked the one, the two and three.
Through the apple of my eye, you'll see;
The Lord hath played a trick on thee.
Beady eyes, anglo lies,
muffled in their women's cries.

from there I would go to 'not a stone is left to stand," which is fine and very masonic you free mason you, and then the rest sucks and i would go "the anglos's face sweeps 'cross the land."

you're writing this from the perspective of a mason, who does NOT see (does not see-nazi; lol) man, as a fallen Angel 'anglo, ang-lo, aim-low' but as the rising ape.

But I will warn you, its confusing muddled and stupid, like free masonry. because, like, i dont really see the low angel. I just see Tubal-Caïn. Its a poem about Caïn, Lamech, and Tubal-Caïn, to me. So IM not tricked by it. Its not scary, and Im not scared of it, and like, you should be scared of Tubal-Caïn.

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When I sat down at my lecture today I spotted a very fat and ugly lad quickly put a book in his bag. His teeth were gnarly—yellow, misshapen, with wide gaps. His tiny framed glasses were greasy and unclean. Just from his physiognomy I deduced what he was reading and engaged him with glee.
>What book are you reading?
He hesitated with worry, as if to plea.
>’Tis a fantasy book, I swear to thee!
>What’s the title, you putrid swine?
>Ah, Brandon Sanderson!
Before I could flurry him with insults and berate him for his poor taste his beady eyes widened with disbelief. A smile formed on his porky face and his cheeks went red with joy… The simpleton had mistaken me for a fellow fan! I hadn’t the heart to tell him the truth. Now, when I pass him by, he nods his head as a sign of respect.
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He's very active on reddit lmao, they love him there

Writing is very much mediocre, but his fans are insufferable and act like his books are god's gifts to mankind. You can ask for any variety of fiction, and some dumbass is gonna reccomend him. It is truly surreal
Like others said, he's great at worldbuilding and magic systems, his character work is fine/functional from what I have heard but not great. He and other hard fantasy writers are lot like the old school hard sci fi writers like Clarke and Niven (and their successors like Andy Weir), its not character work where their strengths lie but the intricate worlds they design. There are hard sci fi writers that can write great characters (Alistair Reynolds,Greg Egan and Peter Watts for instance) what are the hard fantasy parallels though?
At least Jordan left extensive notes and thus allowed Sanderson to compentently finish off the books, unlike the post-Frank Dune books that are shitty cashgrabs and contradict his work.
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Are hard/defined magic systems inherently retarded?

“What foul sorcery is this?”

“Um, ackchyually, the enemy identifies as a Wizard, so it would be ‘What WIZARDRY is this’, you bigot. Respect their profession.”

“What the fuck. It’s evil and heretical and demonic and I don’t like it. Therefore witchcraft.”

“Ackchyually, a Witch is a female Warlock who makes Pacts with-“

“Please shut up…”

Sounds like pretentiously semantic crap, the kind of crap that trannies and leftists resort to.

Bitch, it’s magic, it’s not supposed to be hard understood, it is something to describe, not to define.

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Yeah, Branderson should be so upset with how he's viewed....

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Retardation. The true meaning of Kafkaesque is to follow reason to the extreme and see how absurd the reason is to begin with. He doesn't do unreality.

His true precursors are Walser and Kleist.
Based schnauzer.
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>society ruled by women since its inception
>queens constantly backstab each other and treat their underlings like shit
>still in the stone age
What did the author mean by this?
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What do you think the cover artists thinks about painting the same shit over and over and still getting paid for it
Not really. It has surprisingly mature themes and tackles them somewhat well, but you can save book 11 to 14
but if i were to ask you why is fucking sucks so much?
He is asking about your mom I believe anon

Post the hardest to parse Mccarthy sentence you know.
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reads like someone describing their rectal hemorrhage suddenly started talking
Filtered pleb
>The horse raced past the barn fell.
the worst is the judge talking about judging people.
It's so bad it came out ambiguous. Whole thread on it a while ago.
Clarity is not the Judge's point. Or rather it's his point only ironically.

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What did Kim Stanley Robinson mean by this?
I read this book and subvocalized John's dialogue in JFK's voice and Frank's dialogue as a Fishburne/Wong style voice. I didn't finish Green Mars. I am planning to revisit the trilogy and read them all together.
They are fearful about the mayhem the life-extension treatment could cause and how the global elite will exploit it to create a brutal population control scheme and world regime. Robinson is an ancom iirc.
Benedict Wong from Prey 2017

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>read half a book this whole year

I was reading 70 books a year just 3 years ago, what the fuck happened.
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stop scrolling on your phone. stop making 4chan threads. just simply read book
I actively post in tv, v and lit every day despite not playing a single game, not watching a single movie and not reading a single book this year
I've had it in February and still can't concentrate like I could before. Does it ever stop?
That's the thing. We can't

>“Somebody must have slandered Joseph K., for one morning, without having done anything wrong, he was arrested.”
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The actual joke is 'both dead'
You botched it.
the full extent of the humor is lost in translation though. the german "verleumdet" (translated as "slandered") literally means wrongly accusing someone of, specifically, a crime, whereas slander includes anything that might damage somebody's reputation, even if not illegal. so in the original german the first sentence is strictly tautological reasoning
cough qu'est-ce que
Fa-fa-fa-fa, fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa, better run, run, run, run, run, run, run away
The Castle is slightly more kafkaesque.

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I lied and faked being a literal retard to get on disability and get an extra of 300 eur more a month so i can buy more books
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first R ain't no neutral double down
I'm getting a fat paycheck and I'll be buying tons of books.
>not being Celine-pilled and literally becoming a doctor
based and bookmaxxingpilled
good on you, you have nothing to be ashamed of.

So im reading madame Bovary. Only around 60 pages in and just finished part 1

Wtf? I think my brother married someone like this. This Emma person strikes me as someone who lives in some fantasy world and has delusions of what life is like. And even if she gets it, it's then onto the next thing or event.

My brother's wife is literally like this and now after getting everything she wanted over the years is now wanted a divorce lmao. What sort of mental illness is this?

Bros, fr fr, he careful who you marry and especially have kids with (my brother has 3). This type of woman can and will destroy your life AND your kids. Nothing will ever be enough. Even kids to these sort of women is just a prop, once they get them, they will just be bored of them and want to have minimal to do with them besides having them around to keep getting child support
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>And they all turned out old virgins, so he must've done something right.
Bruh the ending of The Leopard was absolutely not a happy or desirable one.
>I think she just likes the idea or aesthetic of something than the actual thing
Yeah. That's how it is with almost everything, not only women suffer from this, as you (probably) fantasize having a girlfriend yet in that fantasy ignore the unpleasant parts of being in a relationship.
>inb4 But I don't fantasize about it because I know the realities of having a relationship
And this is exactly my next point: men acknowledge their fantasies are just that, fantasies, mostly embellished by the fact they've never experienced them. Women often lack this insight which is why they want to fulfill their fsntasies whenever and however possible
>decadent of vile species
>Anna Karenina
women don't like you because your reading comprehension skills are subpar
Yes it's bleak, but still the best case scenario once one has daughters
Anna decides to cheat because muh love and muh bored, even though she's an aristocrat and has a child already. Should have known better.

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Is there a memoir or fictional book, of man well into adulthood renouncing formulaic bourgeois life, going on trips to exotic places, exploring city and town, living bachelor's dream, learning local dialect and wandering under the city night sky then escaping to next destination before he becomes too settled down?
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>i-it's not laughable!!! They just don't geddit!!!
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For anyone interested, BAP's literal zionist grifter project has been exposed. BAM is a larp grift because whites are bred to be niggercattle and eat it up. His goal is to decrease antisemitism:
fuggin bazed
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Gravity's Rainbow

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The book tries to discredit traditional masculinity by beating down the husband who provides for his wife, while some trust fund kiddie alcoholic spends his father's fortune trying to bang this wife by hoping that someone will bring her to him on a silver platter. All of this is told through the lens of the most bland and uninteresting character ever written. The only good part was after they ran over that broad and that was the last few pages of the book.

I liked that Gatsby got clipped.
>ends up wanting to argue semantics like I predicted
>"you are dumb for calling me out though"
Fuck off midwit. You have nothing of value to add. You are as predictable as a house tour.
I'm not arguing semantics you imbecile. You are reading things into a post that are simply not there and acting like you think you are some idiot savant when you are not a savant of any kind. Go back to jacking off to pictures of your fat mother Jesus f Christ.
It just illustrates that there is a difference between the impression a person creates outside of themselves, and what's actually going on in their reality.

Some stories don't have meanings or morals as such, they just depict a thing.
Actually the autistic phenotype is probably the most suited to enjoying an author like Proust in the Current Year.

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Have (You) taken the /fitlit/ pill?
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>/fit/ trying to make their hobby out to be some intellectual pursuit to compensate for the lack of reading they did growing up because they viewed it as a gay feminine activity
>t. /litfit/
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I'm trying to swallow it.
I'm trying. I'm sitting at a 325lb Zercher squat but I'm struggling with Baumgarten's metaphysics and realizing just how far I have to go to understand Hegel. My bench is also stuck at 205lbs and I can't figure out why.
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Yeah I used to be. Now I am a collapsed mess after a back injury. I have lost all my will to read and crawl through books and am often in pain when exercising. Use to be a 3000IQ martial arts monster though.

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Is it possible to draw some connection between Kant as the driving force behind the birth of current analytic philosophy through the centuries as a mixture between historicism, neo-kantianism, 19th century's hermeneutics, logical positivism, reaching the philosophy of language of Wittgenstein as far as Quine?
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Frege completes nothing, prove me wrong. Nietzsche is a fucking repairman.
Are you saying that Nietzsche completes Kant?
Nietzsche as an anti-positivist neo-kantian?
I'm saying he completes the entire history of that World. By correcting your impression while you read. Frege is the initiator to Quine imo. They are called Historical Unities.
Thank you. So Nietzsche completes the german idealism refuting it? The entire thing is a circle?

On Frege to Quine. What is Historical Unities?
Augustine-Abelard (kind of a guess desu)
Bacon-Duns Scotus
Kant-Nietzsche (ultimate, concluding in Marx AND Schoppy was the failure)
~Husserl-Derrida (extended one, can probably be broken down or tied to other things)
~Frege-Rorty (same as above)
roughly, I'm not an expert.

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He was just trolling. He didn't mean it.
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>It was just a life affirming prank bro
Blegh :P
No his philosophy was relevant during his lifetime. Times were different back then.
Is it not relevant now?
If you want to study the historical ideas of the time.

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