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>move to a huge left leaning city
>library nearby, decide to visit it
>enter the place
>at first it seems to be a regular library, but I soon realise that no book of worth can be found on the shelves.
>a weird mix of colorfoul YA books and feminist theory.
>go to the philosophy section
>half decent but very small and hidden in a corner.
>overhear an emasculated young man conversing with a member of staff
>"I'm looking for an introduction to feminism for my godmother, she isn't into it at all at the moment, so something simple and easy to grasp"
>an actual male wants to introduce a sane woman to feminism
>"My lord, please release this poor man from his debilitating sickness"
>the female member of staff responds : "oh yes, I've got just the thing for you, it's called "Witches" from [insert talentless author who will be entirely forgotten in 20 years]"
>[Proceeds to utter a retarded argument about how identifying to a clearly evil creature is actually a good thing] Tee hee
>I watch in disbelief
>360 and walk out of the door

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>>19269372
You claim to be an oldfag, yet you don't seem to be able to tell an actual newfag apart from someone who's >merely pretending?
You were fooled twice
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>>19269290
>move to large leftist city
>cant even approach the library because it's now a homeless den
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>>19269329
>You can do a lot with a good tractor.
Like running trannies over with it
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>>19269290
Your first mistake was moving to a left-leaning city

Which translation of the Iliad did you read anon?
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>>19272857
>a general lack of artistry being the main one
E. V. Rieu's has been my personal favorite for years, I see a lot of talent on display reading his version and I do consider it a fine rendition of a classic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlXvRgbjwlU
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Much have I travell'd in the realms of gold,
And many goodly states and kingdoms seen;
Round many western islands have I been
Which bards in fealty to Apollo hold.
Oft of one wide expanse had I been told
That deep-brow'd Homer ruled as his demesne;
Yet did I never breathe its pure serene
Till I heard Chapman speak out loud and bold:
Then felt I like some watcher of the skies
When a new planet swims into his ken;
Or like stout Cortez when with eagle eyes
He star'd at the Pacific—and all his men
Look'd at each other with a wild surmise—
Silent, upon a peak in Darien.
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>>19262129
Caroline Alexander
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>>19273203
>muh vagina
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>>19273262
Nope, that would be Emily Wilson’s translation. Alexander's is actually quite good.

Wagwan my slime. Damn this shit is actually bussin bussin no damn cap. Like ahlie senpai all the waste commie tings breeze. Bare manz repping JBP, cuz he be reppin the 6ix. I was cheezed but then I read this BOK, and now I'm mossin. Wagwan to all my JBP yutes out there, those cuzos boolin. Those marxists aint lit, those sussy bakas be wilin', mans be looking like poggers, that just aint it, they aint it, no lie?
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>>19273084
fr dem nigga be jeluz n shieet
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>>19273084
on god this nigga know tf up. yall be roasting peterson but yall tripping. he preach that real shit fr
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>>19273112
You just be mad that Jordan Peterson repping the people, and he fightin against the people tryna put us down. He fighting that establishment, he fightin that good fight. People like you that dont like him are usually fuckin with those in power. Nobody looks out for the interests of the people like he does
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Ain't nobody here that can name one person with a higher iq then him, that's what makes him the greatest intellectual of our time
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here are MY 12 rules for life
>get a college degree
>never drink before 5PM
>find a wife who has read Kant
>don't spit in public
>always shit out the same orifice
>find a frank zappa song you like and never listen to anything else
>read a book every day
>live at the hotel
>if you see a vine climb it
>eat a food youve not afore eaten

Hi. I’m an early 20s black woman and yes that is relevant here because we are going to be talking about wokeism, social media (YA twitter) and the obsession with YA

I grew up reading middle grade and YA. I would say that I do carefully pick the YA I read now, but I like to read more “new adult” stuff. I am trying to write a YA book though because that’s what I’ve read my whole reading “career.” I know Twitter has a YA author community and I make a burner just to lurk, see what’s going on

It’s terribly catty, full of older LGBT+ and pandering folx (lol) and they mock what actual teens on tiktok read (earlier YA books that were pre-woke era.) I am even more confused by the white people who are trying to cancel authors of all races that don’t comply with their idea of a diverse book. I’ve seen them attack asian women writers.

Second, my issue is why are these old people trying to write adult books but in 16 year old bodies and settings? They are so obsessed with high school and representation, it’s creepy. They love lgbt sex and relationships, I swear all the books they hype up are basic as hell but because they’re genderqueer or no heterosexual, it’s deserving to be on the NYT bestsellers list???

They also love to talk about how some YA books are annoying because the characters sound young… well they should, they’re 16.

Why don’t these people get that the average teen doesn’t care about this shit that deeply and that they’re not cool for being part of a clique on Twitter??
When I was a heavy reader, I didn’t even look up any authors or honestly care too much what the MC’s sexuality or race was.
Thanks for reading my rant.
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>>19266136
Post n word pass
I dont want to see purple nurples today on a blue board
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>>19273234
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>>19273132
>he thinks he can be part of the club
oh no no no
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>>19273257
You're clearly new here. Return to reddit where you belong
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>>19266306
I don't know; Spike Lee seems to accomplish it with a fair degree of regularity if lodged primarily in 'the black community' itself

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After the wild success of the /lit/ edition of Moby Dick, I propose that the world's foremost literary society combine its talents towards the aim of publishing first ever annotated edition of The Cantos of Ezra Pound.

"Fiendishly difficult," as the late Jonathan Bowden describes them, the Cantos reflect Pound's deep erudition and immersion in literature from throughout the history of not only Europe but the world. Even the best educated among us no longer receive the kind of education that Pound relied on his readers having.

It is high time that Pound's work receive a properly annotated publication so that the power of this great work can be experienced by the readers of now and beyond. As a controversial figure, most in academia speak of Pound in hushed tones. This work which I propose will not come from them. We, /lit/, must be the ones to do it.
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>>19268549
I'm the resident Pound retard who got genlit to read Ezra Pound after breaking my computer screen over a post someone made about Ezra Pound. I've read the cantos like two times already and know like a dozen cribs to work from, does somebody want me to create a telegram or something? I plan on cutting the chaff from the wheat with most of the cribs and making a minimalistic compilation of all of them to add our own cribs to it. It will take some money to honestly accomplish this considering how rare some of the more obscure cribs I know of but I will honestly put time into it. I also plan on going to Italy and searching through libraries that I know Pound has been to. I've reread Pound for like 3-4 years and would like to head the effort. The goal would be to create something like the Finnegans Wake skeletons key. add me on discord if you want to talk more about this david817#3366. Create a telegram and reply to this post if you personally want to create a group chat otherwise I will do it myself.
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>>19272397
>discord
I was with you up to this point. Go back to ****it
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>>19272397
fucking feds man baka kys
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>>19272397
yeah, man, make the telegram

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>"Protestantism is a halfway point to Atheism. I enter a protestant church and it resembles your average community library. Where's the grandeur, the history, the awe? Protestants would rather philosophize religion than worship, and so they imagine themselves peers of God, far more than his subjects. The true purpose of religion is to strike fear into your heart. You acquire a healthy fear of God, and this way, ritual overtakes philosophy and the religion retains its mythos and tradition. Protestants will never understand Catholicism."

Was he right?
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>>19271468
>Church fathers
No such thing, the church has one Father, God.
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>>19268694
>protestants will die soon thankfully
lmao
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>>19263665
>blablablabla... I'm incapable of making decisions
This is why you'll never be happy, anon. An indecisive life is an unfulfilling one.
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>>19262912
>loving your neighbour and your God, being selfless, hopeful and joyful in your eternal salvation, remembering that actions have consequences.
All good things. Its better to fear what happens after death than to fear the judgement of fools (humans). And if you want to pull the Socratic line I'll point out that his lack of fear was conditioned by his life devoted to living in line with his conscience- which was my original point. If you live morally and believe you can go beyond fear. But "fear of God IS the beginning of wisdom."
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Heres a simple test: when the judgement comes and our Lord asks you: "why didn't you become as one with me and our Father? Did you not hear of my agonised prayer in Gethsemane (John 17:20-23)?" What will you tell him? "I liked the seats in the mega churches more"? Your a part of Jesus church or your making that agony in the garden all the more agonising.

Retards: syfy is a respectable genera worthy of praise
>Entering the phone booth, he did a phone thing. Ring-ring-ring.
>Philip K. Dick, A Scanner Darkly
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>>19272060
I would recommend starting with "Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep".
It seems to be everyone's favorite, plus it's the basis for the movie "Blade Runner".

After that, it depends on your bent.
If you like horror, I recommend "The Three Stigmata Of Palmer Eldritch".
If you're into religion, the "VALIS" quadrilogy is pretty intense.
If you want to see postmodernism done right, I cannot recommend "Ubik" highly enough.

Or you could coast with one of his five short story collections.
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>>19270913
That's a book about me going insane though
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>>19270913
im reading this now and its awesome
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>>19272060
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep, it reads very smoothly and has great imagery.
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>>19272675
more like Do Assholes Dream of Electric Dicks

There was a thread(not mine) asking for books about how Martin Luther and the protestant reformation damaged Europe.

This is completely on topic so I'll posit the same thread again since I and many others are interested:

What are some books or literature on the topic of Martin Luther and the Protestant Reformation destroying the West?
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>>19272242
t. atheist / protestant brainlet
Why so mad little guy?
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>>19272239
>What are some books or literature on the topic of Martin Luther

Jacques Maritain, Three Reformers, has a merciless critique of Luther.

>and the Protestant Reformation destroying the West?

It's not the main theme of either book, but the subject is touched on in Chesterton, The Dumb Ox, and Karl Adam, The Roots of the Reformation.
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>>19273020
Where should I start with chesterton?
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>>19272289
This board is dead. The more threads the better. Do you also bitch and moan this hard in polbait threads?

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ching chong want marry wu leng
ohhh, is a spicy curry sauce prevent river feng
lotus petal is not spoon for scoop ho teng
river many forks but are sized meng

thank you.

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wtf is this shit?
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>>19273035
P
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>>19273035
Idk retard, what does the back of the book say?
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>>19273035
Jesus was a Hindu, bro.

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> 2021 read challenge starts
> sets target 25
> starts strong 5 books in less than 2 months
> heartbroken from a girl
> rhythm slows down
> pull myself together, but too late
> 10 books until now
> total failure, feel ashamed

Need some boost anons. Recommend akin books to complete my challenge :(
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>>19271727
i don't exactly read YA bro. maybe you're just dim.
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>>19271823
>i don't exactly read YA bro.
Never implied you did
>maybe you're just dim.
Never implied I wasn't
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>>19271694
That's actually a bust of Epicurus.
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Same here, OP. But I've finished Mason Dixon this year - which I'm proud of, specially for discovering that Pynchon is a fraud. And listening to the audiobook while I follow the words is helping me with Ulysses.
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>>19270186
>Not going to finish IJ before 2022
That's only 15 pages per day...

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Is this the key to Hegel?
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>>19268982
The word salads must be amazing in that book
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>>19268982
>key to Hegel?

Im Sklaven fängt die Prosa an
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>>19272877
Cool thanks. Just wanted to confirm with someone else. Actually I've read Kants first critique like twenty times, read Reinholds essay on the mind, Fichtes intros to Wissenschaftlehre, and the preface, intro, and first two chapters to Hegels phenomenology. It seemed pretty clear to me from my readings that that was what was going on with Hegels project but its always nice to find out someone also sees it.
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>>19273053
I think magee is saying that magic is science or that hermetecism was proto-science and dominant interpretations of hegel as an idealist are wrong. Hes not saying that he isn't rational as an insult. I think he is in agreement with Zizek and Todd McGowan, that even Marx's standing Hegel on his head was a misreading, that Hegel was always already right side up and that Marx, Deleuze and Stirner, etc are actually in agreement with Hegel and are instead critiquing misreadings or detractors and they only really only reaffirm the real Hegel or merely disagree with the semantic convention of which side to call up. You can't really turn a mobius strip inside out. Absolute Idealism(mind, spirit, geist, god) is matter in motion, as above, so below.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intuition_(Bergson)
>Bergson introduces two ways in which an object can be known: absolutely and relatively. Pertaining to each mode of knowledge is a method through which it can be gained. The latter’s method is what Bergson calls analysis, while the method of intuition belongs to the former. Intuition is an experience of sorts, which allows us to in a sense enter into the things in themselves. Thus he calls his philosophy the true empiricism.

>Within philosophy, however, problems arise when the symbols are treated as the objects they represent and when, through composition, the original is expected to be found within the simulacrum. An example of this is the substance theory of rationalists and the bundle theory of empiricists. Empiricists, searching for the substance within the gaps of the composition, fill them in within even more symbols. Unwilling to continue filling in the gaps ad infinitum, they renounce that there is a substance and maintain the properties, or symbols, which are not to be confused with parts, are all that there are. The rationalists, on the other hand, are unwilling to relinquish substance. Thus they transform it into an unknowable container in which properties reside.

https://thetragiccommunity.wordpress.com/2015/04/06/correlationism-and-vitalism-comments-on-henri-bergson/
>Bringing Bergson and Hegel into conversation with one another will help us clarify how Bergson approaches the problems addressed by Kant and how Bergson himself differs from the traditional of German Idealism itself. Here it is useful to quote Ray Brassier’s commentary on this shift at length since it gets right to the heart of the dispute: “So…famously, in Hegel’s objective idealism, the relational synthesis which Kant takes to be constitutive of objectivity is simply transplanted from its localization in the subject and construed rather as the relation between subject and object, which Hegel recodes as the ‘self-relating negativity’ that yields the structure of reality” (Brassier, et. al., ‘Speculative Realism’).
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>>19272877
I also smoked a lot of weed. That also helped.

Practice writing with flash fiction and join anthology #3!

Flashes will be collected from these threads and turned into an anthology. Leave a prompt after your flash for the next person.

>Publication
Free .epub on archive.org
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>Requirements
1,000-word maximum. No porn, extreme abuse or gore, etc. Original fiction written from a thread prompt. Prompts cannot be used more than once.

>Deadline
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>Prompts (listing most recent/active only):

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it's over...
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>>19266574
I concur
>>19270198
not yet it isn't
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>>19271119
ok...
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>>19266378
>Dead worms and Crystal Pepsi
mine
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>>19272216
Brave man, that’s got to be the strangest prompt…i tried to think of something for it and drew a complete blank.

Here’s an illustration for inspiration :-)

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What am I in for, /lit/? Is Wolfe just a meme or one of the greatest, if not the greatest, scifi writer of all time?
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>>19271667
Moral messages are for children. You should have worked out your notions of morality by the time you enter adult life.
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>>19270510
It's got some of the best linear plotting ever devised. There are plot threads that take multiple volumes to resolve, so that you have to refer back to the earlier books just to confirm what happened. Clearly you weren't paying attention.
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>>19268555
Literally this. It's amazing how these books transition from random shit happening to seeing all the connections and meaning by the end.
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>>19272917
>Literally this
The books are fucking gay
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I read books 1 & 2 a couple months ago and liked them. didn't know 3 & 4 were better, I hope I can pick them up without having to re-read the others.

What are some nice books that also adults can enjoy? I really enjoyed the Moomins growing up and the books are really beautiful and have themes that everyone can understand and enjoy, from depression, abuse to friendship and adventure. The Moomins still give me joy to this day and would like pass on that joy to my kids.
Winnie the Pooh, with the Zen of Pooh and the Russian version are similar to the Moomins. Any other good childrens books?
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>>19266512
Please do give them these things but also keep your kids as far away from modern media as possible. You cannot compensate one with the other, every second of YouTube or other cancer you let them watch is like a poison and they will stop caring about other things. My brother's kids at this point have literally zero interest in anything except the Super fucking Mario and Minecraft pajeet youtube poop they watch on repeat. They don't care about animals, dinosaurs, or any of the other things I was trying to make them curious about, they have zero attention span. Can you imagine a kid who doesn't give a shit about dinosaurs and can't name 10 animals? I try every now and then to share some of the things I loved as a kid but it's like talking to a wall, they give 0 fucks. It's so depressing and corona made them even worse. Sometimes they talk to me and they say that they have collected the special level of the super mario faggot shit and they made 99999 points in the gay level of fucking enderman steve cancer. I hate this shit so much and I wish I could erase it all from existence.

Back on topic, I loved Richard Scarry as a kid. I had tons of books, peak comfy.
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>>19266512
Nutcracker and mouse king by Hoffman. Had it read to me as a toddler, still occasionally see in nightmares.
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>>19270139
>They don't care about animals, dinosaurs, or any of the other things I was trying to make them curious about, they have zero attention span
>Can you imagine a kid who doesn't give a shit about dinosaurs and can't name 10 animals?

This is my biggest fear
I have a 3y old niece so she was born before corona and she went absolutely crazy after seeing my turtles and cat, she hasn't seen an animal (except dogs on the street, stray cats, etc.) irl before or touched one. Seeing her filled with joy reminded me of how I was as a kid
I cant imagine what kids that are focused on the digital are going to turn into once they get older, seeing how internet addiction (which also is linked to porn addiction) already creates the most wretched people
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>>19268577
It relies heavily on wordplays, the usual cause to turn down translations. Dutch and Swedish managed it somewhat, there's also a Japanese translation of the first volume, and the Russians tried it too, although some jokes got lost. Some things had to be changed in other languages, too.
The original is in German and is called "Das Sams" written by Paul Maar. They are fun children's novels that can be enjoyed by adults, too.
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my mom read this to me :)




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