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Thoughts on English purism? Is sticking to Germanic words the way to go?
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>>18219371
I believe the goal is to de-mutt English, though it would never be widely accepted outside of enthusiasts. What's your opinion of Icelandic, which strives for purism?
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>>18219357
language is created on the streets not in academic eggheads brains

i am objectively correct in this statement
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>>18219377
That's what the jews want you to think so you let your language and culture rot. Meanwhile (((they))) resurrect a dead language and return to their traditional lands.
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>>18219391
mate you are the epitome of rot
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>>18219372
I have no particular reaction to ebonics. It's not even especially muttish, from what I've seen, i.e. it doesn't adapt foreign words.

>>18219375
>the goal is to de-mutt English
So, to reverse no less than a millennium of historical development? Not even the most insane linguist could pull that off, and to produce a meaningful language for the everyday life.
I myself know nothing about Icelandic. However, it is not precise to say that a language strives for purism. It is some speakers of the language that strive for it, usually some of the academics.

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Recently, I've gotten enough money to start actually buying books instead of just downloading them, and there are a couple that I'd like, but I'm not sure which publisher I should buy from. I've seen the publisher chart but I never saved it, can someone post it? Also, general publisher discussion thread.
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Oxford World Classics. Don’t bother with Penguin. Don’t believe me? Compare translations. Penguin’s is almost always inferior.

Vintage International for more recent works.

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What're some hacker books? My dad went to school with the guy who wrote whatever this is and I figured the schizo guys here would like things seized by the U.S. government.
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>>18219392
GURPS is the most /lit/ rpg. GURPS Fantasy 2 is the most /lit/ supplement

How do you read this book? Is there anything worth reading before it? Is there anything to be mindful of while reading it?
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>>18218390
Based. If Tristram Shandy isn't hilarious to you from the start, you'll never be White.
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>>18218390
>>18218906
I am OP and am white.
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>>18218937
Peasants cannot be White.
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>>18218390
>>18218906
>>18219242
But I am white and trans btw if that matters
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>>18219242
Peasant hands surely typed this.

Say what you want about him, but at least he got straight to the point.
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>>18219301
kinda looks like ernest shackleton

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If you read Homer in translation, you're a fucking butt-munching pleb and you should leave this board forever. There, just fixed /lit/.
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>>18219149
The name "Homer" is a translation.
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>>18219284
kek
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>>18219149
If you read Homer at all you're a pseud. Listening to him recited orally from someone who has memorized him from a long line of storytellers is the only true way to understand him.
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If you read ANYTHING you are a fucking pleb.
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>>18219149
Why would I read a book by a Simpsons character?

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What's your favorite romance novel?
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>>18213718
I'm sure it's rarer but it's also difficult to find good romance novels.
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>>18213197
Katawa Shoujo by Hacker known as 4chan
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>>18213197
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Ada or Ardor by Nabokov
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>>18213718
there's romance in most of the /lit/ top 100, but I do read some romance genre lit at times.

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discuss books you are reading right now and tell us your thoughts on them
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War and Peace.
Almost finishing. Very lukewarm ending, lots of characters are left out and it seemed kinda rushed. Tolstoy really deslike historicians. But overall great book.
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>>18217370
I'm in the middle of Parmenides right now. Honestly, kind of hard to follow, I'm getting the gist, but I don't like how round about the language goes. I almost feel like I need a chart or some kind of visualization to really understand.

I had to stop so I started The Divine Comedy. It seems like it will be fun, if maybe a bit too flowery (and simpy).
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>>18218969
The dialogues are the hardest parts for people to get over with Plato. Just realize that most of his work was supposed to be expressed orally or played out as pseudo theater.

Also realize that the strawman's and questions and breaking down are all part of his overall belief that the soul was immortal and knew truth even if it had to be coaxed out. There are some truly great nuggets within the dialogues, but sometimes it is just a horribly annoying slog.
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>>18218302
I used to like Hemingway when I was young like everyone else but really his novels kind of blow. His short stories are much better than his novels but I feel I’ve matured from Hemingway. I recently reread the old man and the sea and found it quite bad.
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>>18218969
Just tried to read the republic after enjoying gorgias and apology. I felt as though I was wasting my time with it so I skipped to the allegory of the cave and some stuff about the forms and then put it down. Don’t regret my decision

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Is it possible to write erotica that is also great literature?

I say absolutely not. It's possible to write erotica that is great at BEING erotica, but in becoming so, it will not be great literature.

Orson Welles in this video makes a really good point. He's talking about cinema but I think it applies equally well to literature:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jBrhI_qqAY&t=13s

Welles is saying that you can only make a "masterpiece of pornography," but not a masterpiece that is itself pornographic, because the goals of pornography and the goals of cinematic art are fundamentally different. I think he is correct, and I think the same applies to literature. You can, to quote Welles, "get as dirty as you want." You can depict sex, you can describe the bodies of women, and so on. But it's not going to be erotica, because the entire point of erotica is to get you so horny that you jerk off. And the point of something trying to be great literature is to communicate truths, to express something fundamental about whatever it is you are writing about, be it beauty, be it God, be it the nature of war, or anything. And writing in such a way as to get someone horny enough to fap is going to make them incapable of receiving such truths given the nature of the state someone gets in when they get that horny.

You can, as Welles says, make really, really good pornography. A "masterpiece of pornography." This is true for erotica as well. You can write things that are really, really good at making people horny. But they won't be great literature. They'll be great porn, but not great literature. The two are fundamentally different categories and cannot mix.

Thoughts?
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>>18218654
this is all based on authors intent which is a reductive way of thinking. Why? Because why limit categorically a written piece as not literature? Porn is porn and literature is literature, but strictly claiming that porn can not be analyzed on the level of a piece of literary work is limiting.

Personally, I think art should be separate from authors intent. Intent is a useful tool, but it should not be the decisive factor on what a piece of work IS. I think that good literature can come from anywhere even if its unintended to be so.
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>>18218898
Your requirement for "the entire work" makes your conjecture tautological, since you classify only things dedicated solely to onanistic stimulation as erotica.
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>>18218654
>Is it possible to write erotica that is also great literature?
What is ‘erotica’ and how is it differentiated from literature that is erotic — for instance the Song of Songs, or the poems of Theognis, Catullus or Petrarch?
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>>18218659
This
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No.
>Why
Because I say so.

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Why didn't Voldemort just make his horcruxes something indestructible, or at least something functionally so, like a mote of dust or the Earth itself or a children's hospital or a digital file that he could just copy ad infinitum giving him an infinite supply of horcuxes. This seems like a massive oversight by Rowling.
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>>18213720
The main story takes place in the 90s, Harry was born in 1980, there were no digital files like that.

>>18214053
This. The main point was not to make something no one could find and be indestructible, the point is to have something only your allies could find and use them to ressurect you.

Also >>18213887
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>>18214053
>>18214344
A fun thing to remember is that Voldemort invented the magical process to regain a human body at the end of book 4. Ergo, prior to him no one who created a horror thtoughout history has ever fully come back. Thier fractured soul piece is forced to wander the earth.
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>>18213629
Voldemort has a very easily readable laundry list of personality traits that are essential to understanding his behavior. 2 of which are his tendency to hoard 'trophies' of his crimes because he is insecure and wants reaffirmation of his greatness and dominance, and absurdly high gradiosity for himself.

The dude's not otherwise stupid, he's generally a few steps ahead of everyone else and is coolly calculating. But his insane ego very seriously makes him make dumbfuck decisions occasionally.

It's not enough for him to put his soul in any random thing and hide it any random place. He wants granduer. He literally, unironically thinks he is sacred and basically a god. He refuses to place his own sacred soul in anything normal. One of the locations for a horcrux of his was the area where he first learned he could talk to snakes and where he did his first serious crime by mentally traumatizing two children. It's strategically idiotic because someone could AND DID research his past and search that location. But he does things like thing because he's obsessed with his own greatness and it makes him blind.
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>>18213629
Le plot holes #gotem!! Epic take down.
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read hpmor

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I'm looking for novels in the Middle Ages and these two called my attention. Which one would you suggest to a person who knows nothing about the period?
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>>18217727
For the first half, Baudolino is a humorous but grounded story of the middle ages. Then it goes off the rails and becomes a story about what people in the middle ages thought was far to the east. Monsters, Prester John, etc.
Both parts are great.
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>>18218276
Thank you. I watched a video about it and the girl said the same thing.
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>>18217727
Tirant lo Blanc was written at the end of the Middle Ages while Eco's work is contemporary historical fiction. Can't really compare the two.
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>>18218737
It's also never clear if the narrator, Baudolio, is bullshitting about everything or not, so maybe it's a fantasy novel, maybe it isn't. (one of the novel's main THEMES is ambiguity)

I have the same edition, and my MAJOR GRIPE is this: the novel takes place during the 4th Crusade (1204), but the cover art comes from a fresco made by Pietro Della Francesca in 1466, and depicts contemporaneous fashion in clothing and armor.
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>>18219282
...it's really good, you'll like it.

I want to learn about the lives of the saints.
I am not so much interested in the religious aspect of their lives, simply their biographies.
For example, I learned about Saint Clement (Pope Clement I) who was killed in 99 AD when he had a chain attached to an anchor tied around his and was thrown into the sea.
A big book of biographies of remarkable saints would be a dream come true. Considering there are thousands of them, it’s hard to find ones with interesting stories without sifting through a lot of ones with little to no info
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>>18217433
The Golden Legend by Jacobus de Voragine
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>>18217433
Most saints/martyrs probably never existed/were never martyred. Most of the "persecutions" also never happened.
I also don't think there exist many non-religious hagiography books.
Interesting thread btw, good luck with your quest
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>>18217433
The Saints Collection, by Catholic Way Publishing, available on libgen. It has 2k+ saints' lives in it. Some hagiographies are shorter, some are longer. It also has a "reading list" to give you either 1 saint a day or a few saints a day.
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Butler's Lives of Saints is a classic.
If you want Protestant saints who got persecuted by Catholics, then get Foxe's Martyrs
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>>18217433
>Saint Clement (Pope Clement I) who was killed in 99 AD when he had a chain attached to an anchor tied around his and was thrown into the sea.

tied around his what?

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What do you think of Wittgenstein's private language argument and its implication in epistemology?
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I’m retarded
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>>18219186
it spawned an entirely new field of philosophy involving language
pretty nice, and I can imagine how it loosely resembles autoencoders (neural net stuff) but it's just part of the story
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>>18219220
> I can imagine how it loosely resembles autoencoders (neural net stuff)

Wittgenstein denied that a private language was possible. The weights in an autoencoder seem a lot like a private language since they're totally fucking meaningless outside that specific neural net.
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>>18219186
Ddebonk
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>>18219186
>>18219197
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>>18219246
How can he slap?

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>Ecce Homo
Not gay erotic fiction
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>>18217929
Kek, did you bought it thinking it was an erotic book?
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>mfw
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>>18217929
>The Gay Science
>Nothing about how to get a bf
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>Mein Kampf
>not industral mining operation manual
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>>18217996
It's between the lines, anon.

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Rationalists Silenced
New Atheists destroyed
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