I hate wide sized books. why are they so wide? for what?it’s the main reason I have to adjust the the height of each shelves on my book shelf.also small but thick sized books just fits my hand feels real cozy.
Will Duolingo actually help me read Tractatus or Being and Time in the original German? I feel like a lot is lost in English translation, rendering a lot of the text nonsensical.
>>23318640Duolingo is not a good way to learn a language.
>>23323729Is AJATT incomprehensible input method?
>>23321083I've heard this shit from a lot of German philosophy students but every single professor reads them in German.
>>23325313ajatt is about comprehensible input. https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/what-is-comprehensible-inputhttps://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/introduction-to-learning-japanese#how-to-immerse
>>23318640https://youtu.be/K_F86BAdeNw?si=W8Jyxy5_imtH1Lb3&t=82
>>23325880>Nietzsche is for artistsWow look, someone who understood Nietzsche. A rarity
>>23325846Idk about that. In many cases, I think that's true. But I also think people who believe in the value of "truth," dismiss or forget that for some people, violence is their argument. Take Stalin. Stalin didn't give a fuck about communist ideology; he understood how it worked, and how the Party worked, and how to climb the ladder and secure his position. Once he secured the position, he consolidated it, then he enforced it through sheer brutality and violence against anyone who opposed him, or who he wanted to make an example out of; or just whoever he felt like fucking with, because he was absolute ruler. So his argument from day one, was violence. There was no argument in the sense that you allude to. The argument was, "I really think I should be in charge of everything and that anyone who disagrees should die or be too terrified to ever even speak about it."And he stated his case, directly, through the whip. Guys like you and I, like to pretend that deep down, somehow, our rationalism or our articulation confers some objective benefit, or objective validity, but the guy who believes he can just beat us into submission, believes in the objectivity of his "argument" just as strongly.
Everyone in this thread is a retard expect for me.
>>23325902It depends on your goal. If you want to change someone's mind with facts, feelings, and ethics, or if you want to appear correct, reasonable, or intellectual, then there's no worse thing you can do than resorting to violence.But if you don't care about what people think, don't want to change anyone's opinion, and don't care too much about what's right or wrong - morally or factually - then sure, violence solves everything sooner or later.
>>23325240Scent flows deeper than words.>>23325247I have nothing to brag about, I have never taken one of the tests. At any given time there are about a handful of IQ threads on here, so you must be addressing the people who brag anonymously about their IQ.
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>>23325811I like this, although there are plenty of non-nuclear WMDs.
>>23324798>Huge plague kills a bunch of people>Vampires living in populated city must leave as food source dwindles>Go to "the North" (Canada/Alaska/Whatever) to feed on people living in small isolated towns>Get to town>There's werewolves there, and they have an innate sense for vampires >Werewolves protect the town from vampires>Both must fight for their own survival
>>23324798based on a true storykind of like rosemary's baby in that that you don't know if the protagonist is a schizo or if it's real till the end
A magical realist bildungsroman about a middle schooler on his summer break before entering 8th grade:>protagonist's best friend is a compulsive liar wracked with insecurity and half-lost in his own reality>whenever something bad happens to him, he tries to pull MC farther from reality in their games that he treats as being progressively more real>protagonist is visited by himself from the future>he knows too much about MC to be discredited but there is zero trace of MC's personality in this other person>every character's parents are divorced and all the kids only refer to one of their parents as mom or dad, using the stepparent's first name>MC's stepdad acts like a goofy redneck, but he's a skilled engineer, and MC is the only one that never sees that side of him>stepdad implies at one point that nothing exists after you cross north into Kentucky>MC and his friend's favorite place to play is a stretch of suburbs that are still being built but look abandoned>no one ever sees construction crews and the houses are only wooden frames on dirt lawns with nothing but dirt and asphalt in all directions>MC doesn't want to move forward into adulthood but can't decide on what fantasy or delusion to choose instead because they all seem like different forms of reality
>>23324798The eldest son and heir dies in a helicopter crash, and it's now up to the spare child to learn what it means to be a leader.
>I am told to study the Greeks>I read the Greeks>They are just fag fanfiction about some old fag teachings of life.>They are just analogies to the fact that your wife fucked a black man and you have to support your new zambo son and your daughter is a whore, and your son starter to steal in stores and you kill yourself because trump lost.Fuck philosophy, my parce.
>le culture_war.exeget patched
>>23324140What did he mean by this?
>>23324140>>23324237Whatever. Bye.
>>23324245There surely is a newfag wave. I have read the word "onions" more times today than in the rest of the year
>>23324237>>23324140Filtered. But here's your (You)
Jordan Peterson is widely considered to be one of the most influential writer of all time. An absolute triumph and a giant of western philosophy. His book the 12 rules for life is often considered as his magnum opus and labeled by the national literary society as a “Great American Novel”. New York Times called it “in defeated masterpiece that few could ever surpass”Times magazine “Peterson, the Confucius of the west, the 21st century Immanuel Kant, a National Treasure”. We give our greatest gratitude to one of the greatest and most important writers of all the time: Jordan Peterson.
>>23325659I was thinking of reading Ten Rules for Life but I didn't know Peterson was a neo-nazi. He seemed like a pretty chill guy from the podcasts I listened to.
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>>23324480It turns out the context is the octopus was being used as an anti-kike dogwhistle in reference to some old political cartoon about a jew with tentacles spreading across Europe, but it's so obscure it's funnier just to assume he's yelling about stuffed animals.
>>23324480>That's not real..is it?Nope.
>>23325691>>23325698Thanks fren, I didn't think clown world was this bad.
Fickle sugar-coated bargaining has never appealed to the inferior retrospect of causal [naïvet]y. A la the superior of never having experience negen-cedes non-experience finé
Ruining reputation?
BINGO :^)
>Utmost is trying to something
I was pretending to not have any fault when it occurs to me that having any imposition required something to come and harm who I am. >Utmost
Remind me why the blood is a myth.
What's a book or books that are red flags in a partner make sure to say why
Any femgoon 'romance' novels
>>23323980>anything by Rupi KuprTry-hard poet fagging at its finest
>>23323980Dan BrownJohn GreenMurakamiCoehloAny Young Adult fiction/fantasy writer after J.K. RowlingsJewish writers after the 20th centuryColored writers from this century and on a big publisher like Penguin, Knopf, etc.
>>23323980Hollowcost books. Modern social justice slop books.
>>23323980There’s a certain type of chick who thinks she’s a literary genius for having read The Great Gatsby even though it’s the only book of substance she’s ever read and she didn’t even understand it
Let's discuss Chinese poetry. Who are your favorites? What periods do you like? Do you have particular translators/sinologists/critics who you believe to be good curators? What are you interested in reading? I'm reading Du Fu right now, I *almost* see what people mean about how great he is but I think I'm a little too caught up in the immediate experience of reading to really take stock of the whole, once I'm done I'll be able to look at him with more clarity. But it's obvious enough that he has the sense of scale/humor that is the seed of all genius.
>>23324751I don't see the point of a translation of poetry that makes no attempt to replicate the form of the original, unless it's just intended as a crib to aid with understanding the original.
>>23324764I agree that it's far from ideal, but it is capable of capturing certain dimensions of greatness nonetheless. I wish I had the patience to learn the languages of every poet I want to read, but that just isn't me.
>>23324772Well, if you like poetry Chinese opens up an especially great amount of good poetry.
>>23324783If I ever do it, Chinese will almost certainly be the one, yeah. And I've put a bit of time into it on and off, I know most of the standard poetic words, your yue, qiu, shanshui, all that. I'm just not enough of a poetic technique connoisseur to really feel like I need to prioritize it when my backlog is such a black hole of time and attention.
I'll just bump with random thoughts/observations/questions: Decided to skip ahead and check out the rhapsodies (ahead in the collection, that is, they were written very early on). Definitely feels a little smoother, a little more refined, with somewhat different concerns and a different flow, compared to the old rhapsodies. I suppose even the Wen Xuan rhapsodies were written over quite a long period, although even among those the later ones are already quite imitative. I had thought of it as a form that was not relevant after the Han, and I don't think Du's stuff disproves that really thus far, but it's interesting to see that it still existed in some capacity and great poets were still attempting to keep it alive.
What should I read before Edith Stein and Gabriel Marcel? Like Kant, Hegel etc... is that necessary?I'm taking the Start with the Greeks approach -- so far, I've read the presocratics, some plato and aristotle, and some of the early church fathers but nothing modern at all.I intend to read everything in between eventually but I'd like to take a break and go off on a tangent for a few months.
Anscombe
>>23324589They should read Max Scheler instead. And are you really claiming Heidegger's deconstruction of western metaphysics as in line with John? Heidegger is clearly a giga-atheist. That said, he did revert back to Catholicism at the end of his life.
>>23324812Heidegger was a polytheist
>>23324251Where should I start with Blondel?
>>23324651The works of the Doctors of the Church are on my reading list. However, I'm also interested in Catholic thought today and how it differs from Thomism, which I understand to be the dominant current of theological understanding in the Church for centuries.I'm reading for my own interest and also to become a better Christian so I guess for both reasons but ofc the latter would take precedence.
Im looking for a picture of the map of Middle Earth thats in the HIGHEST resolution possible. This ones not bad but there must be a better one somewhere. Can anyone assist?
>>23323916>>23323916This is too big to post here.https://tolkiengateway.net/w/images/f/fb/Christopher_Tolkien_-_The_West_of_Middle-earth.png
>>23324329>>23324230>>23324225Thank you all.
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I always find a map of middle earth without beleriand empty
Any books/authors similar to the work of Shane Stevens (dark, brutal, well written pulp)? Read pic related and loved it, currently about halfway through By Reason of Insanity.Amazing author I haven't seen widely discussed.
Hard Freeze and its sequels, by Dan Simmons. There's a part in the sequel where the protagonist sees some assassins approaching while he is in public and he considers using a nearby kid as a human shield.
Why do pajeets believe in this shit? It's literally impossible according to classical logic
>>23323811>>23324144The uncaused cause still creates an infinite regress, since you can never arrive to a cause and effect relation from an uncaused cause, even Aristotle realise that, that's why he creates the idea of a middle mobile that mediates betwen then, but in doing so he fucked up since tbat still creates an infinite regress, only with 3 parts instead of 2, but this notion of mediation is what will pretty much decide the agenda of western philosophy to this day
>>23325581>you trying to dismiss another person's view in a manner and using a specific argument which you don't accept as valid when applied to your own beliefsI can believe whatever dumb shit I want and it doesn't make your shit any less dumb. You are pretending your dumb shit is "logical" because you said so or something, and I'm not convinced that the rules developed by theo-logians to argue for theo-logy easily lead to a rejection of it. I'm not going to bother to try to convince you that emptiness is logical in terms of Hindu theology, I am waiting for you to explain how you have knowledge that an eternal unchanging Self unrelated to your embodied experience exists which is then admissible to this system of so-called logic as it it were water being wet or the sun being bright. If it is through revelation, just say so, and admit you don't believe logic needs to have premises a non-magical person can accept equally as a magical person. Just admit you are starting with the premise of complete divine knowledge and the rest of the "argument" is to edify and impress to impress less scrutinizing persons and serves no real purpose otherwise since nothing is proven only revealed. If you won't then we'll have to agree to disagree.
>>23324211This isn’t an entirely objectionable and uninteresting hypothesis or possible axiom to start from (that of “ontic structural realism”, or the belief that structures themselves are real existing entities and the world is fundamentally composed of them), but what is objectionable is that there was neither serious reasoning or arguments put forward as to why this should be believed, nor investigation of its necessary consequences and their deeper meaning. To seriously argue this, you’d have to inevitably get into the weeds of Platonic questions, the same questionsthat occupied Socrates and Plato in their day (yet another example of just how much thought goes all the way back to Plato, even some of the sophomoric ones elaborated over a bong-rip in a college dorm at night). Namely, you’d have to ask, “Are so-called ‘IDEAS’ or ‘CONCEPTS’ as fundamentally real as what we call ‘solid real-life material objects out there’?” Then, like Plato, come up with an answer to this question, explaining at least something of how/why some abstract concept or structure like “a times table” exists as much as (or maybe in a different way from) a literal physically empirically-observable thing like the structure of a computer does (its hardware). Do the abstract or conceptual structures exist in some ‘higher immaterial intellectual or spiritual realm’ like Platonic Forms/Ideas do? Are they what material structures making up reality are mere reflections of? If so, how did this framework itself and the universe it describes come to being (forming the link between conceptual and physical structures/idea and matter). Etc. Plato may not give the best possible and most satisfactory answers to all these questions (for instance, to explain his cosmology, he gives way to speaking of a Creator God and a Demiurge, and recourse to mystical/spiritual phenomena such as a posited metempsychosis/transmigration of the soul, or mythology inspired by Greek culture generally, etc.), but the depth into which he dived at least into arguments for his ideas at least makes it coherent to speak of “Platonism”, and of arguments for and against it, natural consequences of it, etc. But just dropping something like “ontic structural realism” is really interesting and compelling an idea, but doesn’t give enough meat to chew on without getting into deeper elaboration about it (e.g. about arguments for it, or further natural consequences of it that make sense and fit with our experience of or rational thoughts about the world).>>23324269There is some of Buddhist tradition (or even Taoist, for that matter) and its mythology and legends that can be taken as suggesting something like “apatheism.” I.e., “even if there is a God or gods, it’s not the entirely most relevant thing to this teaching and to your own potential for spiritual development though overcoming/eradicating suffering”.
>>23324269>>23325624(Continued)Like legends in the Pali Canon that even the Devas (Gods) went to listen to the Buddha’s teachings and bowed down before him. You can take a plausible and reasonable interpretation of Buddhism, as saying that it does believe in supernatural and miraculous phenomena, as well as remains agnostic or apathetic on the existence and provenance of a God, basically saying its teachings are relevant and helpful transcendental wisdom for one’s own personal path and life regardless of whether a God exists. Or basically even saying in its own mythos, “Even the mythic angels/demigods/gods (or their equivalent in Dharmic mythology as Devas etc.) can learn from this teaching, having bowed down to its transcendental wisdom in our own stories.”Basically, it would still say that “What you take to be a ‘self’ and unchanging and permanent like a solid object actually isn’t so and this can be shown by deconstructing it down to its various aspects and a meditative practice concerning this”, “This process will give you release from suffering, and this suffering is what it a fundamental aspect of ordinary phenomenal unenlightened life”, etc. — all the basic axioms and teachings of Buddhism.
>>23325581>I'm not claiming to prove it's true The vedas are, so they're question begging, so posing that the atman is self evident is a fallacy, so the other anon is right in just negating the existence of the self, something which existence can't be proven, since the burden of proof is on the people saying that the self exist, so he's logically robust on his argument, he doesn't need to entertain the idea of a self since there's no proof whatsoever of even the posdibility of it's existence, in trying to do that, he would also have to entertain the idea of 2 different selfs existing, or 3,4,5 and an infinfte number of metaphysical theories, that's why the burden of proof is on the side that pose the existence of something, ignoring that actually create illogical articulations, so asking for proof of the existence of the self is a valid logical argument
How can someone be so accurate and so skilled in expressing in words the introspection of the human condition? Does anyone even come close?
>>23322527>Shakespeare>Proust>Kafka>Mishima
>>23322527David Foster Wallace >>23323357Let's hear it. Dick on the motherfucking table
>>23322527Fernando Pessoa
>>23322527Léon Bloy
>>23322527did i fuck up by reading TBK first and not saving it for last?
Feel like I was too much dumbfuck back then to appreciate Steinbeck's Of Mice and Men, and I get the impression that, what was a beautiful emotional reading experience was completely lost on me at the time because of that fact. Glad enough time has passed to give it another shot. hbu?
>>23325916I liked OMaM in high school. I just got a copy of Catcher, not sure if I missed anything with that one. I have a pretty good memory, though.
I want to give Great Gatsby another go because I love every other Fitzgerald book I’ve read as an adult.I want to go back through Grapes of Wrath again but that’s because it was actually a very formative piece of art for me. I’m working on East of Eden though so it’s on the back burner for now.
>>23325916I liked of mice and men at the time but have never gone back to read it. I do feel like it'd be a good reread. My favorite book we read in high school was definitely Ralph Ellison's Invisible Man.
