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Why didn't any of you warn me that the life of a poet is a lonely one?
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>>14606798
We did. You weren't paying attention.
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>>14606903
girls that can distinguish actual talent are rare. so you're right, op should have no problem.
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>>14606798
your parents, social circles failed you, everyone shouldve been telling you
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>>14606798
r u really a poet? u published?
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>>14606921
i think the title should be the phrase or swear that destroyed your soul so new and filled it with despair

"kys faggot"
or
"ur mom"

just examples obviously but the idea is including whatever inspired you to write this. it has a potential to be humorous and more personal and sincere. gives the poem some context. but maybe it wouldn't jive with the tone. still, liked your poem :)

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Would you guys be interested in having a series of study threads where we read parts of the old testament and discuss them? Then we could eventually go further to the New Testaments if things go well.

The reading from each thread to another would not be a whole book, put parts. Such as Genesis being split into four parts (The primeval story, the story of Abraham, the Jacob cycle, and the story of Joseph). I can provide supplement reading etc., and would be great if you guys would contribute as well.

If any of you are interested I will make a plan and put something together in the next week or so.
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>>14608392
Should probably use something publicly available as many people might not be willing to invest in commercial editions atm.

As an avid enthusiast of biblical translation, my pick for small portions and individual verses is the ASV and the ESV or RSV-2CE for more extensive reading because of their literalness while being sufficiently simple to read. The reason why I'd hold the Catholic edition of the RSV in regard is partly because changes introduced by it were incorporated into subsequent revisions of the standard RSV, but also simply because of its translation quality. I also see little difference between it and the ESV. I find just about all other contemporary translations to be more sanitized and simplified in comparison. Some of the oft-mentioned 'poeticness' or flowery language of older translations is sometimes the very eloquence of the source texts' languages themselves. The ASV on the other hand was largely a revision of the KJV to incorporate Alexandrian texts in the NT, and is a source to which multiple translations are traceable to such as the JPS Tanakh of 1917, the RSV, NRSV, ESV, NASB, and the WEB. To finalize it's appropriate to judge a translation by the actual quality of it as opposed to its provenance or the number of books or verses it may contain.

Here are some official uploads of the RSV-2CE and ESV.

>RSV-2CE
https://www.catholicstudybible.org/WebBibleTAL/WebPlayer.aspx?bbNum=01001&bVerse=1&F=cbBookPickResult
>ESV
https://www.esv.org/Genesis+1/

>Changes in the Revised Standard Version – Catholic Edition
http://www.bible-researcher.com/rsv-ce.html
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>>14608537
Can you make a poll to see which translation everyone is using? Just for kicks really.
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>>14608619
Sure, I'll throw it in the sticky. Which options should I throw in?
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>>14608645
The only one I'm confident someone will read is the KJV; the poll should have a write-in option for everyone else.
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>>14608645
Don't include the KJV, Douay-Rheims, Message, NRSV, or OSB if you want a meaningful input.

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/lit/ is a Buddhist board
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>i farted and shitted
What did budha mean by this?
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>>14600474
why are his toes so fucking long?
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>>14600336
>liking to smell, touch, ear, be conscious

all this is shit and disappoiting
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>>14608282
It doesn't predate the the pali canon though. It predates sectarian Buddhism but the pali canon(in some form) definitely existed by the latest at the time of the second council which was around 380 BCE.

You're right though that Pyrrhonism gives great insight into pre-sectarian Buddhism.
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>>14608575
>It doesn't predate the the pali canon
authoritative source?
>definitely existed by the latest at the time of definitely? provide proof
>380 BCE.
where did this date come from?
>pre-sectarian Buddhism.
I don't know what "pre-sectarian" means.

Where's all of that famous "critical thinking"?

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Books featuring a quixotic protagonist? Any recommendations bros? Specifically referring to books with a charismatic, idealistic hero who has the odds stacked against him but succeeds anyways and saves his country
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>>14601538
none of the overdressed walmart employees on Nick's patreon will be able to influence much, they locked themselves outside and have no way in
BAP's advocacy for establishing a powerful professional life (instead of being a "professional influencer" or whatever it is Nick wants to be) is correct
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>>14608311
>The goal is not subservience to God, but to become Him.
This is what my priest had to say on the matter.

>Metaphysical unity with a being implies unity in all properties.
>Thus unity with God presupposes a total unity of will with God, for indistinct beings have indistinct wills.
>Denying God's attribute of being 'the Eternal Dominating' and 'Controller of All' is patently absurd.
>Thus not serving God is a rebellious action of going against his will.
>Now assume a being exists who is 'in unity' with God and yet does not submit to him.
>The being then goes directly against God's will, and by extension against his own will, in virtue of the assumed 'unity'.
>This splits God into two 'parts' - a 'part' which follows God's plan and a 'part' which goes against it, creating an immediate contradiction.
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>>14608528
this is the plot to shin megami tensei
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>>14608528
God is the All. The idea is ultimately to make God conform to our will. We do this by winning it. We win it through the advancement of science, technology, and our well being.

It's a good thing. The universe / God rewards to strong. Let's look at humanity as a microcosm for the universe. The mind of humanity is completely confused, because it so divided, broken into these competing slivers of consciousness. The goal is to bring unity to the mind of humanity. To make humanity sane.

Right now we are a demigod in the universe, and the strongest we know about. Once we unify under one Will, we will go out and proceed to unify the rest of the universe. And we'll continue doing this, unless a competing demigod manages to beat us.
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>>14604227
Not the guy you are responding to. But it is true that Nick is just a kid and therefore there is a significant limit to what he understands about the real-world simply because of lack of experience with it. There's a reason why there is a minimum age requirement to become President of the US for instance. Its because some knowledge and wisdom only comes from time and experience.

I'm not going to listen to some Zoomer who lacks sufficient experience with the real world and all its nuances

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How come lit loves to talk shit about him but never properly refute his arguments?
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This board is contrarian and just dislikes whatever is popular.
>harry potter popular so harry potter bad
>jordan peterson popular so jordan peterson bad
>Guenon 3 years ago when he was more obscure = good
>Guenon now when he is super popular = bad

I don't like Peterson's Jungian stuff and frankly he seems a bit uninformed with the whole post modernism stuff but this board very rarely treats any thinker with intellectual fairness. For a board that loves to appear smart, it is just as irrational and emotionally charged in its popularity contests as any other. Everyone wants to be in their secret club of elitism.
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People in general need to put others down to make themselves appear more elevated; they are coping.
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>>14606720
lol take cyanide you gigantic mongoloid faggot
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>>14598383
>wasted important developmental years playing vidya and dicking about on the chans, who then found themeselves ill-prepared to function irl.

This must have been the worst book I've ever read; not even the inconsistency of the premises, but the sheer lack of scope. How many freaking times can you say the same thing, over and over again? At least 200 pages too long, what a waste of time that was.
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>>14608236
in the preface the translator was already backpedaling - it's just a prank bro!
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>>14607974
>hehe, all abstract concepts and social constructs are spooks. welcome to the free world kid; no gods no masters. hehe
>oh, except the enlightenment concept of the self, the individual, the ego etc. that's 100% real and isn't an historically contingent formulation that doesn't implicitly contain within it accordingly contingent social and anthropological assumptions. you can't criticize that bro
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>>14608272
Kill yourself.
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i think his core ideas are pretty smart but yes it repeats itself and is way too long.

i was sick and depressive when i last read it and it seemed a kind of despairing philosophy to me. i hope to read it again some day when i'm feeling on top and have a laff at life and spooks with max as one who knows his own property and power
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>>14607974

Aside form your point, when looking online I've seen this edition is going for some stupid amounts - 400 in some cases. Why is this?

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What can you read if you're like this as a male and want a gf?
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>>14608544
Not OP but I identified with this image as an 18 year old. I'm now 22 and every attempt at new experiences have reaffirmed my old beliefs. I think I'm beyond repair.
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>>14608544
He asked for a reading list you moron, not life advice.
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>>14608495
Joyce, Lobster Guy, Other Lobster Guy Who Plays Tennis, Any Recent Female Nobel Literature Recipient
Why do you think guys have always this shit? All of /lit/ is loser guys like you.
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>>14608495
I still have some of these problems but got over some of the others. I can socialize deceitfully normally now, to the point where I've tricked many normal fags into thinking I'm one of them. However, its all an actor's facade I put on and it can get very tiresome sometimes.
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>>14608495
This image is just a more pseudo-intectelkecual version of the “virgin walk” image.

LITTERALLY EVERYONE feels these things, it even includes a little humble-brag with the “others may find relationship with them meaningful” so you can read this and declare to yourself
> Oh yes, I am such a troubled person, I am way too humble, I’m never good enough everyone hates me but secretly I can never fully believe that, only pretend to, and must cling to hope that I’m actually great and people love me

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We're having a /lit/ meetup in Boston.

Email bostonliterature at gmail if you're interested & I'll give you the place & time.

>Why?

If you've been to university organizations, reading groups, or hung out in a cafe up here, you've noticed the stifling eggshell-walking culture. And also that no one reads /lit/ books.

>What?

Something in the vein of Emerson's Transcendental. Discussion, critique, &c.
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I gonna bring some cookies ;)
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ok
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Book shelf thread. Post shelf faggots.

1/5
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6/7
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>>14608413
7/7
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>>14608413
>storm front
BASED
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Only patricians collect their books in digital form.
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>>14605119
>>14605128
>>14605141
>>14605147
Have you read all of these?

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Know of any lighthearted books to calm the nerves?
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>>14606866
This.
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>>14606424
Only minimalism can do that.
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>>14608571
>organized by color
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>>14606424
https://principiadiscordia.com/book/1.php
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Wodehouse

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copied from /fit/:

Masculinity is discussed a lot on 4chan and i think its often discussed in an unhealthy way
>Alpha/beta and chad/virgin
>lifting to attract women, which is pretty dubious at best
>Being onions or physically weak means youre not a man
The list really goes on and i think /fit/'s, and even 4chan's, views on masculinity are really self-harming and set men up to be politically radicalized and generally unhappy/unfulfilled, just searching for a meaning or hating others
My mom died when i was young and i heavily internalized the "just man up" mentality growing up as a result and think im worse off for it as i struggle to connect to others in my adult life
I don't think I'm projecting my own experiences on others here and it really seems like masculinity as we know it is pretty empty and could use changing
Im sure some of you think I'm a huge pussy fir even posting this but i just wanted to hear what do you guys think about this/is this the case in your country?

is there any literature, feminist or otherwise, that discusses this?
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>>14607597
Trying a bit too hard there, buddy.
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>>14605176
2pac liked to be pumped
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>>14603956
How about being versatile and resourceful as to adapt and conquer any situation to the best of your abilities? If that requires physical fitness in your situation, so be it. If that is not an option, it is up to the man to still guide it in the best way possible, using for example your intellect and social skills.
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>>14607597
lolll someone bought a ticket for the Try Hard express
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>>14603956
>set men up to be politically radicalized
All of public internet communication is now set up to be politically radicalizing
You think people post all this shit because they honestly have nothing better to say?
It's simple implementation of control and disinfo measures
But you are all still faggots

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>mfw writing down thousands of words of my sex novel that no one else will ever read because every publisher would think it’s just a shitty 50 shades of grey ripoff
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>>14608298
That is not true anon, erotica is a huge genre that existed long, long before 50 shades, if it's good you might have a decent chance of getting published.

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Thinking of buying a physical copy of Edith Hamilton's Mythology. Is it worth going for the 75th anniversary edition? It's about twice the price.
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>>14608223
I already have that.
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>>14608220
It's bad and the illustrations are laughable, don't bother
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Hi
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>>14608220
No. Just buy one at your local used bookstore that probably has dozens of older copies in stock for a fraction of the cost.
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>>14608220
whatever you do dont buy the hardback copy of this version, i have it and its a real piece of shit to read

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https://youtu.be/MTWwkpQzajA?t=41
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WORM: I shall eat harry percy's corpse.
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I worked upon the hills and turned
all arrows of the past to shining stone
and all that earth beneath my tail
belonged to me alone.

Ten million times a day I lift my head
with thought to pray;
what fate has vexed me here to craft until I die
what witch's tale has hexed me here, for just a worm am I.
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By the sweet morning dew while I do poo
And worm along all gay
I see you stray so come this way
I pray you brought your blade

By the sweetest morning dew while I do poo
And worm along all gay
Split me apart it wont be hard
And we’ll both be on our ways

I must implore you do this chore
Of cutting me right in two
Its not a crime Ill be just fine
So help me to reproduce


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I have heard legends of the surface, and few who have seen it ever come back to enlighten us. We laugh at the ones who say they've made such a journey, and discount them as disconnected maniacs. Their stories consist of much of the same. That we can never make it there because of the difficulty in passing through the dry crust, but still these stories persist. That it's a large open expanse, where the dirt ends and becomes flat. That there is an energy so bright it causes living things to grow, and dead things shrink. That other worms have accidentally traveled too far when the crust was wet, and finally broken free, only then to be shriveled, contorted, rendered into a dead black and desiccated shell of our former self. That creatures like giants roam above us at this very moment. We shun the worms who ramble off nonsense like that. We call them outcasts. We call them crazies. We banish them to their own corners of the mud, where they mingle together in small groups and weave their tales for rest of their lives. We keep them away from the normal worms. Sometimes, however, when I'm alone is when I find myself thinking. Away from mundane life and the taunts from the other worms, when I can finally be myself, sometimes I actually do stop and wonder. And I think other worms would be lying if they said they didn't stop and wonder just as much as I do, that maybe the crazies are actually on to something. Maybe the final joke is that we really are the crazy ones. Crazy for not being able to believe the Light exists, and for letting ourselves believe only in darkness.

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what book has actually improved your life
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>>14605044
>>14605095
Not a grill
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Bok e abot pus e
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>>14606579
mine Uber
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Infinite Jest... maybe
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>>14603116
first three books are great (teachings, a separate reality and journey to ixtlan), next books (like 17) are schizo shit
there's something satisfying in the author being BTFO by based Don Juan again and again
Journey to Ixtlan is a review of non-psychedelic techniques for "strengthen your spirit" i.e. self-help. Unironically better than Peterson's 12 Rules


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