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have you ever written someone a love poem?
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>>20403222
Cheers
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>>20406099
That’s a fairy story you christfags tell yourselves.
“Civilization” is humanity in a cage. And you worship it. Homosexuality has been and always will be.
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>>20394121
I wrote my girlfriend a poem when her wisdom tooth got pulled, she was still really high from the surgery when she read it and I am not sure she fully got it desu
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>>20403222
>She would give me many secret smiles and long gazes over the next few years when we went to college and remained friends.

>oh god, he's looking at me...just smile and nod and maybe he'll stop... oh my god please don't kill me
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>>20406243
...in my family

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Does anyone else deal with sudden inspiration and motivation at night, especially when lying in bed in the dark?
I'm always thinking of my best ideas, and seem to be able to construct my most beautiful sentences. But it's such a hassle to get up and begin writing in the early morning hours.
And when I wake up, the magic is gone.

How to deal with this? How to rekindle night-creativity?
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>>20407568
>having your phone beside your bed
prefer a laptop which is off unless I'm using it, and has no internet connection
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>>20407585
So you're saying I should write it even if I'm not crazy about the idea?
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>>20407141
Yeah. I always get tired and a little depressed from like 5pm-8pm. After that I’m ready to take on the world. Wonder if I’m a natural night owl
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>>20407635
Yes. Almost all accomplished authors treat it as job first and foremost. Get to writing, enthused or not.
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>>20407741
I'll post it in this thread if it's still up when I'm done. Thanks anon

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only high IQ neets will make it on the literary world.

only neets have enough free time to not worry about making money, read the western classics with their fellow /lit/ high IQ chads.

Eventually this modern version of 1920 paris coffee bars will be the only place in the planet to produce the next joyce.

pepe will become the biggest literary character of the early XXI century.
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>>20407745
well, I assume you will be interested in reading from a black african point of view and not an european dude talking about black people history.

Besides, the book is more about a tribe that "THINGS FALL APART" when the colonization start because more of bad luck, more than "HUH DUH WHITES ARE EVIL" kind of shit.
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>>20407756
Still sounds like you get most of your feelings about black people from internet and the media. There are black intellectuals out there anon, you just have to keep an open mind.
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>>20407764
>There are black intellectuals out there anon.
Statistically insignificant.
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>>20407769
most geniuses are stadistically insignificant, yes.

99.9% of the population is stupid, yes.

Another basic black /lit/ writer.
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>>20407665
>Do you see how pedantic your position is? It's okay, anon. You can lament the leaving of the people that created literature.
I'm talking about the MENSA people who don't actually do jackshit with their lives.
What about specifically that Langan guy? What is his actual achievement being allegedly smarter than Einstein?
To what his life amounts in fact?

And there's so many such stories.
So many of these who were child prodigies hit adulthood and fall short of their shimmering promises; that is even mildly amusing, slightly unsettling.

To put it short: I believe and admire RESULTS; not cool numbers from a cold examination.

From what I've read, I like the "unsureness" of post-modern fiction, and feel like there's gotta be some good horror stories out there that use the unreliability of the narrator and the subjectivity of language to paint a eerie mysterious, if not scary story setting.

Know anything like this?
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Say, a book about a succesful family man that is suddenly "chosen" by a higher being and bombarded with information on how the world works, every secret and every detail, all there for him to access at any time inside his mind.

And we follow this man, from a first person perspective, as he tells us why he's doing what he's doing, as he commits the unspeakable in the name of "fixing the world".
And so coincidences take place, and when said coincidences take place, he takes this as a chance to reinforce his delusions, when they don't, he already got new information in his head as to why that is.

Eventually, the police visits his house, as a neighbour complains of the rotten smell emanating from the house.
The man is taken into custody, and we get to read the report of the detective assigned to the case, shedding a new light into the events that just took place.

Lastly we see the man in his cell, anxious, furious, demanding.
"The events which he has set in motion" cannot be stopped, he says "It will be catastrophic" he exclaims, yet no one will give ears to a madman, doesn't matter if some of his predictions are disturbingly close to reality.
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Call of the Crocodile
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>>20402614
Laird Barron. I am doing a reread of his novels and short stories after almost a decade and I can honestly say he is the freshest voice in modern horror, or at least was in his peak from 2010-2014. Start with his novel The Croning then read Occultation
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>>20405111
This.
>>20406233
It is probably the one time I would say you need to have the book in your hands.
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Ligotti strays into this territory.

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>The Odyssey
>Moby Dick
>The Old Man and the Sea
>Robinson Crusoe
>Treasure Island

Why is there such a close link between the ocean and literature?
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>>20407638
The ocean is a metaphor for the endless depths of the mind- and monster lurking beneath its surface.

I recommend Dr. Ernst Schertel’s world famous work.
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>>20407638
It's boats.
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>>20407638
it occupys 2/3 of the globe and people have been crossing it forever. obviously theres gonna be some books about it.

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Is there any other progression as satisfying as Kant->Schopenhauer->Nietzsche?
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>>20407671
how is Schopenhauer a bloomer? I can hardly think of a more miserable person
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>>20407414
Spinoza -> Nietzsche -> Foucault
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Kant > Schopenhauer > Nietzsche > Tony Robbins
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>>20407729
I had read Foucault before Nietzsche and it was like Foucault took Nietzsche’s thoughts on Christianity and applied them to the justice system and sexuality. Made me lose some respect for Foucault
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>>20407710
He meant gloomer to doomer being Nietzsche to Schopenhauer. Since the replies all came from starting with Nietzsche and then Schop.

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What book are you currently reading? Do you like it or not?
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Someone please find me the original pic he posted, I'm fuckin dying laughing
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>>20404618
War & Peace.
Much more than I thought I would. It's a cozy story that just carries you along without much struggle. I'm around pg. 300 and it is very pleasant to know that I still have like 700 more with this book.
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War and Peace

Loving it so far
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>>20404618

Rings of Saturn by Sebald. Love it. Recommended to anyone who:

a) Has been depressed
b) Lived in East England
c) Likes history
d) Appreciates good yarns

The book is a walking tour, and each chapter is like a vignette focusing on a specific location on the way and some odd bit of the specific site's history. Themes include, death, time, synchronicity, wisdom, and despite being somewhat humourless, the content is engrossing.
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>>20405459

I had to set it down. Life's to short to force yourself to finish a "classic" you can't stand.

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is there such thing as a true modern classic?

will any book written in the last 100 years be considered required reading for the next 1000?
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>>20407113
Thats ridiculous.
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>>20406934
Last 100?
Yes, but not in English
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>>20406934
oxymoron
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>>20406934
Frankl's "Man's Search For Meaning" has candidacy, but most classics were titled as "classics" hundreds of years after they were written. The same question could be asked five hundred years from now with five classics more since you asked this question, and the answer would be the same.

The only determining factor that is stopping "classics" from being written is the constant decline of intelligence in the modern world and over reliance on material that requires no thinking. I suppose the real question you should be asking is: will new classics ever have a chance to be made in the world we live in today? (and that isn't lost to time or only remembered by intellectuals)
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>>20407217
No, it isn't. You don't understand what's going on. Right now, college students are writing essays about Eight Bites and that one-sentence story about Mary almost getting raped on her way home before getting on a bus to flee her shitty town, in literature classes, and they're not impressed.

None if those books will become classics, folx. The classics will be the books that embody our current countersubversive moment where "being a good Roman" ala Aurelius is making a comeback while everything else fights for its fucking life and gets buried. 12 Rules embodies that reality while not telling us anything we don't already know or at least tacitly understand.

That's all you need for a new classic.

What society, organization, of country embodies his philosophy the most?

Even nietzsche scholars hate his philosophy
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Aristocracy. He says it himself
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>>20406849
As far as societies that have already existed go:
1) Imperial Rome
2) 20th Century US & UK
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>>20406856
Nietzsche's philosophies don't scale well politically, but he's right about everything on an individual basis. Hitler should've just fucked off into the mountains lol
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>>20406849
the old west
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>What society, organization, of country embodies his philosophy the most?

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feeling disgusted with the porn he just fapped to, anon got up from his desk and
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During his tangent about albania anon failed to notice that an old man was violently shouting and thrusting at him.
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"I'll fuck your punk ass up", the old man ejaculated.
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>>20407200
Anon quickly curled his fist, veins popping all over his forehead.
With the rage of 30 cooms, he screamt: "LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE ALABAMA SINCE I BEGAN TO LIVE. THERE ARE 387.44MILLION MILES OF NEURONS IN MY BRAIN. IF THE WORD HATE WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANO ANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES, IT WOULD NOT EQUALONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR ALABAMA AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT.
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I'M ALABAMAD!!!, he
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>>20407633
...exploded. He socked the old man so hard his head jerked back and popped back into place. Surprisingly, he seemed merely shaken, as if he wasn't hurt at all. Pulling up his sleeve, he showed Anon a mess of scarred tissue. "I've just gotten my 17th booster shot!" he declared.

What's your favorite work of LGBTQ literature? And don't just say anything by Mishima.
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>>20404404
Literally everyone in ancient Greece was a homosexual pedophile.
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>>20407226
no,in fact that's a leftist psyop there's no evidence of Greeks treating pederasty and homosexuality with anything but absolute contempt while the Persians obviously DID partake.
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>>20407226
You don't know what you're talking about, read Against Timarchus
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>>20407250
>read Against Timarchus
Did *you* ever read it?
Against Timarchus doesn't make any point against homosexuality. Timarchus was deemed unworthy of having political rights because he used to be a prostitute, and Athenians believed people who sell their bodies could easily sell their opinions as well.
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>Dude..every person in history who wasn't married was actually gay!

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May 21 to June 4: Dubliners
June 5 to June 14: A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man
June 16: Ulysses

>Dubliners
https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/2814
https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/james-joyce/dubliners

>A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man
https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/4217/
https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/james-joyce/a-portrait-of-the-artist-as-a-young-man

>Ulysses
https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/4300/
https://www.joyceproject.com/

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>>20402512
Kek
>>20402010
May be a midwit take, but I thought the green eyes were significant because they seem like the sort of thing pulp writers would give characters to make them seem exotic. I think the story is about disillusionment as not only do none of the sailors have green eyes, the only character who does is the pedophile they meet in the road.
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>>20406790
>>20400129
You know something else I was thinking of regarding my point on Mahony, the last line >>20403414 brings up and the excellent point >>20403171 makes about adventure.
Maybe one of the reasons why the narrator "always despised [Mahony] a little," was that while the narrator seems trepid during the whole outing, Mahony fully embraces it. He's the one who chases the girls with the slingshot, who's the most crestfallen by the adventure ending, and who seems the least bothered by the pedophile.
The line
> I can see you are a bookworm like myself... he is different; he goes in for games
Also seems to hint at this.
In this reading, the story is less about the old pedophile and more about the boy's attitude for adventure. The narrator goes on one but doesn't take advantage of it, Mahony goes all in, and Joe Dillon avoids it preferring to read about them in stories.
I'm definitely Joe Dillon anons.
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Just finished Araby, I definitely enjoyed reading that one. I liked his depiction of infatuation, it felt pretty accurate. I noticed there were two points where the narrator was ridiculed and not taken seriously by those above him; first when his uncle forgets that he wants to go to the bazaar, and second when the shopkeeper patronizes him. Maybe the second instance is a parallel for some sort of class disparity? I'm not familiar with Irish history. As to the last paragraph, my first reaction was that his anger was anger towards the fact that he doesn't really belong in the bazaar, but re-reading, it could be either anger towards his attempt to win Mangan's sister over with material objects, or perhaps the realization that his infatuation itself was based on vanity alone. I have no clue as to the significance of the house previously being owned by a dead priest, if it serves any purpose other than world building. I'm interested to hear what the more Joyce-familiar anons have to say about this one.
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>>20407605
i saw it more as him being incredibly incredibly full of hatred for himself for having devoted himself to this futile, pointless, petty little task despite it seeming to have little to no importance to mangan's sister. he's blown up a throw-away remark about getting her something from the bazaar. he drowns himself in reveries and begins, to his own detriment with regard to academics (and to life in general), obsessing over the matter.
he thinks of himself as much more important, as taking up a larger part of mangan's sister's life than he actually does. he grows irritable when life throws itself in his path and makes things more difficult, and realizes that if his circumstances make even buying a trinket for a girl this hard, they will crush and grind him into fine dust in any case. he is doomed. this little failure whips him back to reality and has him realize the truth: he is not as important as he is, he is not thought of by others as much as he thinks of them, he is not going to have an easy life. he is doomed to struggling.

it sort of hits close to home for me, too. it's like when you fantasize about becoming famous through your writing. like stephen in proteus. lol.

sorry for the shitty formatting and poor grammar and dull descriptions. i've only just woken up
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I'm reading along, and reading the thread, but might not post much because I'm not the brightest. Just wanted to encourage. That said the shift in the man in green's tone after his indecent act in 'An Encounter' is far more relatable than one would expect for something so old and for a character so initially and repulsively sanguine with his predilections. How many in a place like this hasn't masturbated to something, done something indecent at the will of their perversions, even in private, and tumbled immediately after into guilt and then anger. He went from warning wistfully of the duality of little girls, lust, release, and right into anger and punishment in record time.

Reading a book about a serial murderer and rapist same time as this, and it's mentioned generally those who imbibe in their deviance they've been building up—when they do it for the first time— have that sharp initial regret. Even the narcissism and antisocial tendencies bleed away from them for a moment into that guilt, and then they release anger, often physical, onto the victim or themselves right after. Joyce is so natural and honest with his writing I doubt he didn't pull this from some his own lustful regrets, as I've only read his brap letters before this and nothing else.

I'll definitely keep going with this best I can.
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>>20406874
wait. you're right! disillusionment is what these stories have been all about so far. i'm >>20407670.
i can't believe that i hadn't noticed this—even after everybody'd been pointing it out so explicitly and frequently.
it's all been about disillusionment so far.
with the priest, with adventure, with romance and grand gestures and one's own vanity...
you're right, anon.

>>20407696
this is a great point, anon, and i encourage you to post more! your point is absolutely correct. it makes me wonder what a story that spelled out the old man's change in state as he masturbated would be like!
his shift in stance also represents disillusionment, in a way. he had an epiphany about boys with sweethearts while jerking off, i suppose. i know ot sounds funny but there's so so so many dimensions to this! wow. joyce is a genius. everything makes more and more sense the further we read. every story props every other story up!

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only high IQ neets will make it on the literary world.

only neets have enough free time to not worry about making money, read the western classics with their fellow /lit/ high IQ chads.

Eventually this modern version of 1920 paris coffee bars will be the only place in the planet to produce the next joyce.
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>>20407365
Spengler said that the best philosophers excelled in the real world before attaining any intellectual success. From thales who had success as a merchant to someone like Locke who was a physician. The career philosophers are a product of the modern era since Kant and they're all out of touch with reality. You follow in their footsteps.

Books to efficiently deal with the pressure of having the control of my life in my own hands?
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>>20407525
The Unbearable Lightness of Being
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Meditations of Marcus Aurelius
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>>20407597
It illustrates the problem of nihilism and how/why to combat it, which for someone contemplating suicide is a big deal.
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>>20407614
Terrible rec
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Sartre

What are some “modern classics”

Fight Club for me. People shit on it, or try to pigeonhole it into just being about homoeroticism (which, frankly I think is kind of bigoted, just because the authors gay his novel has to have a “gay” message?)

Interestingly. Chuck Palahnuik preferred the film adaptation. But as his first novel it’s quite an achievement. And the novel has a lack of a catharsis that the film has which kind of embeds it’s idea further than the film where he totally overcomes his demon. In the novel he’s instead stuck in a hell of his own making and it’s more a matter of time before Tyler re-emerges
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I hate the contemporary era, which is why I don't read any books written after WWII.
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Probably this




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