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Good ones please.
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>>>/v/
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>>2938255
Didn't we already have a thread like this?
>Cyberpunk 2077
>Deus Ex
>Deus Ex:Invisible War
>Deus Ex:Human Revolution
>Deus Ex:Mankind Divided
>Fallout
>Fallout 2
>Falout T.A.C.T.I.C.S
>Fallout 3
>Fallout NV
>Sepretta Core:Legacy of the Creator
>Wasteland 2
>Wasteland 3

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>>2938274
Well this works. Thanks anon.
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>>2938255
Star Ocean, Phantasy Star 2-4, E.Y. E. Divine Cybermancy, Albion (DOS), Might and Magic 6-8 (yes, it's Sci-Fi, shut up), Xenogears.
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>>2938282
>E.Y. E. Divine Cybermancy, Albion (DOS)
Ah crap, how did i forget to add those to my list >>2938274 I guess i simply can't pull all games from the top of my head on command. Thankfully anons remember those that i forget.
>Might and Magic 6-8 (yes, it's Sci-Fi, shut up)
Less sci-fi than Wizardry 7 and 8 but you're right. Sci-fi mixed with magic.

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about to buy this. what am i getting into?
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>>2936178
Anyone who can answer that?
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>>2935356
I like the main campaign in Neverwinter Nights.
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>>2937945
Just download either version that you have and play the prologue (afaik you have to anyway) then if you want continue with the rest of the OG campaign or skip to SoU.
If you have EE you can download updated models and stuff from steam workshop or NWN vault. Never bought the EE dlc, haven't even palyed all the Diamond Edition campaigns or mods I wanted yet. Apprently Diamon Edition isn't available on GoG anymore unless you already bought it before EE came out.
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>>2938252
Also if you want to learn the DnD 3.0 system the game uses you can use https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pc/188666-neverwinter-nights/faqs/56338
But you don't really need it, can beat the original campaigns with just a plain Barbarian or whatever class. The first time i played I used some ridiculous multiclass Rogue/Fighter human with a bunch of feats and dual wielding and then I realized I could have just played a Ranger.
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>>2936861
I've played NWN more than you ever will.

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>>2937021
The only characters relevant to the plot in FF10 are Tidus, Yuna, Auron, and Jecht.
Wakka at least has has more to do than Lulu, who as far as the story is concerned is just a life support system for her cleavage.
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>>2937226
>no pregnant Lulu model in X-2
still mad, bros
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>>2937488
It almost feels as they could have rolled Lulu and Kimahri together since ther onso storyline is a pretty weak, if inoffensive one; while Lulu does have a number of points where she does open up and contribute to the emotional tone of scenes (Lulu's history as a veteran guardian gets subdied by Auron and i think i preferred her "Listen, tidus, you little shit, this is how this works", and the deal with chappu is shortlived). i eprsonally think more chacters usually devalues a story; less is more: more than six characters, I think is the point where you start seeing shortcomings. i could be persuaded without much difficulty to drop Rikku, too, to an NPC, give steal to teedus.and mix to Lulu (her ultimate is a bit unimaginative anyways), and her "I'm an al-bhed token character" role phases out by the time we're out of Bevelle.
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>>2937961
Stop posting from your phone.
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Man the hd version really fucked up the faces.

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What's the chance of this mother fucker showing up in Rebirth?
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>>2935721
Not RPG.
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I hope 0%.
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>>2935721
It's a guarantee with deepground appearing in yuffie's story.

And I fucking hate it
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>>2936159
Gackt is over 30, so he's basically dead in Japanese terms.
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>>2935721
About 90%.

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Other than chrono trigger and secret of mana, those are outliers
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>>2937501
This must be a baitpost, because if it isn’t you’re insanely ignorant and stupid OP
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Stop playing only japanese games, retard
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>>2937501
Fable
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>>2937506
>>2937920
Japan OWNS you.
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>>2937501
Probably like Temple of Apshai or some shit, play Western RPGs.

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>Character generation
If you are not making a character from scratch, NOT RPG
>Reactivity
If you are not in control of any decisions that have consequences at all what so ever, not RPG
>Stat (NOT ABILITY) customization
>Combat
Must have combat. Because otherwise it's just an interactive movie.

>Skyrim
NOT RPG. No stats. Action adventure game
>The Witcher
NOT RPG. Can't generate a character. Action adventure game with reactivity.
>Souls
NOT RPG. No reactivity.
>Gothic

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>>2937374
>That's impossible
Prove it.
>This problem simply doesn't exist in turn based games because [I'll continue to pretend exploits can't exist in turn-based games but always do in non-turn-based games].
As I predicted.
>you tried to sneak out of this fallacious argument by taking the most extreme example possible where numbers would have been kinda relevant, a starting character against Vivec, unfortunately it still doesn't work like you say
How is the argument "fallacious"? Also, you haven't addressed the possibility of a game providing justifications for certain actions to succeed.
>This has nothing to do with roleplaying, PCs were [appeal to authority]
Nice (read: shit) try. You'd be playing "Mother May I?" to """roleplay""" the GM's character and not your own.
>>but because Morrowind & The SHITcher don't have (adequate equivalents to) GMs.
>Then basically nothing but multiplayer Tabletop Simulator and NWN1/2 played on servers with active GMs is an RPG by that metric, what a load of garbage.
Yes, now cope and go back to dilating.
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Weak shitpost thread. To actually answer the question, a game is an RPG if its core mechanics descend from tabletop RPGs in some significant way. For most games that crib from DnD et al that means statistics-based character traits that are defined by, or define a character into, a ROLE in the story and/or gameplay loop. Roleplay can be creative or purely mechanics-driven, it just depends on what tabletop tropes the game in question is cribbing from.
Games with roleplay mechanics that do not use statistical bases are just fucking charades with extra steps. Games that only use statistical bases as an afterthought to elements of their core gameplay (like Minecraft and many other action/adventure games) can only be considered RPGs if you're being so liberal as to make the term meaningless.
Completely linear JRPGs are still RPGs. You may not like those games, but they still use tabletop-descended mechanics.
Open world WRPGs are still RPGs as long as they're using tabletop-descended mechanics.
Etc. Etc.
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>>2932960
You know you can roleplay as a predefined character, right?

What is with this boards obsession with "Woah, I made a dude!"
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>>2938125
>Can't understand the difference between playing within and outside the rules of a system
>muh appeal to authority
You're literally too stupid to argue about anything, no wonder you know nothing about tabletop but try to invoke rules it created and do it wrong, nobody wanted your sorry ass at a table so you have to cope with shitty imitations
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>>2938174
>>now cope and go back to dilating.
>n-no u... ur dumb, u don't suck nerds' dicks hard enough, u have to cope with shitty imitations bc nobody wants u...
Pretending for a second that the argument is relevant to finding people to play a tabletop game with, I could just play one on my own, according to your "arguments" / line of "thought" so far.
But yeah, (You)'d totally find a group to play with while not acting as the GM, given that you seethe so hard over pointless internet arguments.

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How come there are like 2 RPGs where you can take prisoners?
Everyone makes fun of skyrim for the I YIELD I YIELD dudes who just get up and attack you, but basically every game does this except in most they don't yell i yield
Fix?
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>>2933589
immersive games are bad at integrating fiddly systems like it would take to do prisoner-taking. Rockstar can do that kind of shit, Bethesda can't.
non-immersive gameplay driven games don't want to give you tedious busywork
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>>2933589
Alls I want is the ability to enslave people and have an entire system built around it.
Is that so much to fucking ask for?
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>>2937850
Play Rimworld then you faglord.
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>>2937060
This is true. It's not an all encompassing statement whether they treated all prisoners well or not.
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>>2937060
Prove it.

https://twinfinite.net/2022/12/harvestella-interview/
>Giuseppe Nelva: Is Harvestella a game you envision as a one-off or perhaps the beginning of a new franchise?

>Daisuke Taka: I’d be delighted if we could keep this game going. We ask for all your support.

You heard him. Support HARVESTELLA. It's a great game made by former Rune Factory devs and it's 20% off now on Steam and Switch. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1816300/HARVESTELLA/

Also, play Rune Factory: Tides of Destiny while we wait for Rune Factory 3 Special.
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>>2934922
You'd be retarded too if you were raised like an animal by animals.
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>>2889364
Another generic gook shit.

How impressive...
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>>2935322
checked
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https://twitter.com/RuneFactory_PR/status/1620980336426450946
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Why do none of your choices in quest in Morrowind matter?
GUILD
Your choice is to kill everyone and become leader of one guild, or do like 2 more easy quests and become leader of all guilds. This is not a real choice.
MAIN QUEST
Your choice is to kill vivec and skip 90% of the game or just do the quest line normally. This is not a real choice.
HOUSE
Your choice is to become a wizard and get easy access to all the best armor, vendors, and spells in the game, or you can pick two houses that were dropped halfway through their design. This is not a real choice.

These are your only 3 major quest choices in all of morrowind. Additionally, character builds do not matter. You need minimal stats to cast every important utility spell in the game and using enchanted items, which have no stat or skill req, will easily outpace a dedicated caster. Markmanship doesn't start paying out until skill level 70 because they had to attempt to balance a game where you could simply fly away from every encounter. You can cap every important stat for both melee and casting very early in the game, and have plenty of time to max out every other stat. Itemization does not matter. Medium and heavy armor are just objectively worthless and slow you down. Weapons merely exists to serve as a quicker tool to one shot things when you cannot be bothered to cast for.

This just barely seems like a game to me, let alone an RPG. It's more like a hiking simulator, but I don't really see the merit in such games as I could just load up google street maps and walk around, and would see much more interesting things. Additionally, mods like Tamriel Rebuilt seem to exacerbate morrowind's problems even further, but seem to recieve universal praise here, with people sometimes even linking to the discord or subreddit. This is all very confusing to me. If you ask genuine questions about the quality of the game your post gets reported or someone just throws a tantrum full of disinfo and leaves the thread forever.
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>>2934520
>>2934607
Incorrect.
>>>/v/
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>>2934607
>the number of choices will always be less than infinity so it might as well be 1
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>>2936048
why the fuck would you bump this shit thread with a one word reply
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>>2936694
the point is you would be mad if you had two options
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>>2934520
>20 years and they still haven't finished the Morrowind mainland
Nigger TR is already bigger than the entire games of Oblivion and Skyrim COMBINED.

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Specifically, the switch version. Never played the original on the PSX, but loved Chrono Trigger on PS1.
Seems like this game is never mentioned.
Thoughts on Chrono Cross?
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>>2933070
She has the same age as kid though? I agree with the hair thing but saying she's a loli because of a bad model is lol when the game literally state Kid and Schala are the same and they literally morph together at the end
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>>2921663
Liking Chrono Trigger has very little bearing on whether you'll like Cross. I quite like Cross but it's a heavily flawed game. If there's a way to mod the main battle theme for something less grating on the PC version I'd go with that.
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>>2921663
Great music and lots of waifus. Hands off Miki and Riddell tho, they're mine.
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>>2937811
jesus, that pic...
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>>2923044
>anime reaction pictures
>garbage opinions
checks out

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kind of hard to see Cloud as a "loser" like the game tries to portray him as when he's still beating up crooks, has 2 smoking hot babes after him, rides a kick ass motorcycle and talks back to the toughest motherfucker with an arm gun all the time.
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>>2937421
it's just an social laddering insult, anon, and so it doesn't describe anything external, but rather the values of the person using it
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>>2937444
Cloud is a fictional character. He doesn't exist within society and can't be insulted. People still recognize his motivations as a loser.

Just like we can recognize your uncanny posting style of judging people while missing the point of the conversation.
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>>2937806
i'm not being judgemental, i'm being dismissive, dear penpal.
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>>2937815
Of people's word choice? Or of people?
Don't answer that. It's rhetorical.
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>>2937996
of judgements.

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Um here's a game
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what
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>>2933405
>>>/prosperium/
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>>2933405
What game is this.
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>>2933405
This looks so SOVL.
What is this?
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>>2936869
Its Blockman Go i think.

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has anyone had a chance to try it? It's described as a tactical grid based combat CRPG but there's no demo and there are so few reviews on steam that it's impossible to get an idea even though it looks interesting
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>>2936880
I will not play your game.
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>>2936880
Fuck off and die shill.
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>>2936880
It looks pretty classic in a good way but dunno how actually it is outise some youcancer video
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>>2936882
>>2936931
bump
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gane looks great been waiting for a gog release

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KNOW THIS, /VRPG/. NOTHING MAY CHANGE THE NATURE OF A BOARD.
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>>2935435
>Belief
Did this end up being the actual answer to that question? Or is it a wimpy copout answer where there is no right answer?
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>>2937900
>If there is anything I have learned in my travels across the Planes, it is that many things may change the nature of a man. Whether regret, or love, or revenge or fear - whatever you believe can change the nature of a man, can. I’ve seen belief move cities, make men stave off death, and turn an evil hag's heart half-circle. This entire Fortress has been constructed from belief. Belief damned a woman, whose heart clung to the hope that another loved her when he did not. Once, it made a man seek immortality and achieve it. And it has made a posturing spirit think it is something more than a part of me.
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>>2937903
Great passage. There is beauty in it's simplicity. Belief is the answer but belief in itself is related to many things.
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>>2937904
>Great passage.
It's my favorite, with Morte's tale being the second.

"An elderly man was sitting alone on a dark path, right? He wasn't certain of which direction to go, and he'd forgotten both where he was traveling to and who he was. He'd sat down for a moment to rest his weary legs, and suddenly looked up to see an elderly woman before him. She grinned toothlessly and with a cackle, spoke: 'Now your *third* wish. What will it be?'"
"'Third wish?' The man was baffled. 'How can it be a third wish if I haven't had a first and second wish?'"
"'You've had two wishes already,' the hag said, 'but your second wish was for me to return everything to the way it was before you had made your first wish. That's why you remember nothing; because everything is the way it was before you made any wishes.' She cackled at the poor berk. 'So it is that you have one wish left.'"
"'All right,' said the man, "I don't believe this, but there's no harm in wishing. I wish to know who I am.'"
"'Funny,' said the old woman as she granted his wish and disappeared forever. 'That was your first wish.'"
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>>2937905
Thanks for the read. I remember being so immersed into the world of planescape, it was a well written game.

Recommend some good RPG Maker games.
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>>2934818
Yeah, and this is "director's cut" feature, on release you started immediately at the village.
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>>2926550
lol
BS2 is good, but the combat isn't its strong suit until DLC3.
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>>2936187
Where can I pirate it?
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>>2936508
/hgg2d/ on /vg/ or f95zone
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>>2870018
what are your favorite non-indie RPGs?


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