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This pic gets posted around by tranny haters like it's some big insight but God it is such bullshit.
>while on the right is nature, effortless being, no doctors appointments or hormones or surgery, just an "is" that needs nothing added to it in order to be complete.
Except for the clothes, the makeup and the countless hours and the hundreds of dollars invested every year in skin and hair care. And maybe a liposuction and a prescription acne treatment and a "subtle" boob job and a hairline correction... But noooo, cis girls never go to a doctor to become more feminine lol. You have to honestly be pretty stupid to think attractive femininity is effortless for anyone, ever, except maybe some hunter-gatherers.
>he tries so hard and yet, the harder he tries to "become", the further he takes himself away from the effortless "is" that is the thing he wants to be.
Not really? You learn something, you achieve mastery and it becomes effortless and your second nature. After enough voice training you don't have to think about it. After a few years female socialization is just something that you have for life. FFS changes bone. Etc. You can actually become. From there it is just maintenance - pretty similar to cis women's.
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>>19246550
What are you gonna do about your axe wound stinking of rotting feces though?
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>>19252276
ite because we don't care dumbass this place has been mainstream for a decade now
this isnt a secret club
if you care about sitewars this much you have literal autism

stay

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>>19258954
I'm not trans. When I read that reply I got 'frisson' (mental mic-drop feeling) and wanted more people to have the opportunity to see it, not just those who happened to be on that thread.
And my golly did more people see it.
Well, I'm not lying when I say that Warren and Harris responded on Twitter, but I can't find the links. They expressed support for Clymer of course, but I mean... at the end of the day they were spreading the meme further.
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>>19246550
Not really bullshit, it demonstrates mega hons like Clymer really do look like men in dresses.
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>>19254716
have sex

Does /lgbt/ have a religious faith? I've been trying to get into Greco-Roman polytheism lately and i found its community to be very tolerant of LGBT individuals, what Gods do you anons worship?
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>>19259133
>>19259141
Also consider that you are culturally Christian in terms of your moral conceptions by virtue of being raised in a Christian culture
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>>19259161
I thought we were arguing taxation?
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>>19259164
I'm not opposing taxation, I'm just curious about whether you're a rabid "queer" secularist. It seems not.
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>>19259172
no I'm not really fanatic for any ideology and much less consider myself any flavour of queer.
I do appreciate the separation of church and state, but like all things these also have nuances.
There are a lot of things about The Church that I do not like or approve at all, but I will always appreciate Catholic opposition to the Holocaust for example.
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>>19251055
probably less so than other similar groups; a lot of organized religions have socially conservative backdrops.

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Reminder that an uncut penis cannot be cute. A proper feminine penis must absolutely be circumcised and if yours isn't you should get that fixed as soon as possible. No chaser is going to want a trans GF with an ugly, manly dick.
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>>19245307
How else would it happen?
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>>19223445
You are SO right, anon, bless you!!!
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>>19223445
imagine sabotaging a future bottom surgery just because some weird prudes in 1900 tricked you into mutilating your dick
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>>19256108
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Im gonna cut it off anyway so who cares

if you don't pass with your hair wet or pulled back, your hairline is fucked and you should probably give up. sorry.
framing the face = cope
tranny bangs = cope
mid parts = cope
bunchan was right
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>>19250606
>mid part
Isn't this how most cis women typically wear their hair?
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>>19257610
>I'm a manmoder
why are you transitioning then
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>>19257647
does it actually work if my hairline is not receded, bit naturally high?
>>19257657
yes, but they don't look like men without it
>>19257671
preventing further masculinisation mostly
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>>19253530
Tranny bangs and that other stuff just make me look worse. Honestly the bun like evens out my face somehow. I kinda semi-pass, it's awkward cause I don't really look male anymore either. I have a job interview today and idk if it's weirder to go in boymode but with obvious boobs or just tell them I'm non binary or something
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>>19257412
>>19257610
>depressed thread about hairlines
>"hi, I'm op and I'm a manmoder who doesn't pass reliably"
should have known.
nigga I have receded temples and I've never been clocked with the hair tendrils not covering them up because of the wind. Going to hair salons in one for the worst non-muslim countries for LGBT people in the world and getting a haircut (so hair wet and hairline obviously visible) wasn't an issue as well; like I said, you have a fucked skull, not a fucked hairline >>19255837
can't believe I went to bed feeling bad even though my personal experience hasn't matched what your sorry ass wrote in the op, fuck
never again.

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Say something nice about stinky Abi
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>>19259150
She looks beter with a smile.
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>>19259150
ugh british p*ople
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>>19259150
The videos about abuse she made back when she was a man were genuinely touching. I guess.
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she smells like dookie

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>rejected by coworkers
>rejected from jobs
>rejected by siblings
>rejected by IRL friends years ago, can't make more
>rejected by people online
>never even had a bf
>literally rejected by a therapist half an hour in

I don't know what I'm doing wrong
I try my best
I don't try to hurt people
I always want to help, to the point of being a doormat even
I self-improoved
So why am I still constantly abandoned and spat on


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>>19250525
No, he's just a less delusional NB
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>>19255301
Based
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>>19249898
>literally rejected by a therapist half an hour in
how? what happened?
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>>19258880
See
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>>19249898
repressing is the problem. you need to just be yourself.

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Post letter(s) and attachment style

https://www.idrlabs.com/attachment-style/test.php
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>>19256845
Bi female
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>>19258196
It means you are capable of healthy
and happy relationships, unlike me and the other miserable bastards here.
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Repressing transbian
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Bi male.
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what am i if im a mtf strictly attracted by other mtfs?
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>>19259014
Transbians are cringe and t4t only is the cringiest type of transbians. Congrats!
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>>19259014
A fetishist
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>>19259028
thnx
>>19259033
but like, im only interested in those who dont really pass
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>>19259014
Transbian relationships are the superior dynamic and you can't convince me otherwise
t. Mtf that's tried everything else
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>>19259014
>Transbian without having to deal with cislesbos, cause seethe among penis-repulsed cislesbos etc.
Transbian/gayden relationships are the best choice for everyone involved. Especially when we have the internet, and a way to find someone across the globe.
I unironically hope OP finds a nice discord polycule and never has to navigate "the discourse" ever again.

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I like to tell myself if I ever got raped again that I would do something to stop it, but with how small, thin, and lightweight I am I know I'd end up just waiting for it to be over, I literally have broken bones while casually playing with friends, I broke three bones in my foot jumping on a diving board, there's nothing I could ever do to a rapist.

I hate my life, I hate myself.
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>>19255698
Buy a gun. Take the initiative in your own defense.
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>>19255698
stash guns in your room, stash guns on your person. carry knuckle dusters, wear braces
be prepared to kill for your chastity and safety anon
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It's just shock and fear that stuns rape victims. It's easy to slip into a psychology that facilitates your assault.
Most rapists are just impulsive and haven't prepared for any kind of resistance that a threat won't quell. Even some dude with tiny hands would scare them off if he threw punches.
t.almost rape victim that fractured my hand preventing rape
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>>19255698
You either have very tiny fists or very thick wrists.
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>>19255698
>>19255785
Hang in there OP, i have been in similar situations(no one ever sticked their finger into my asshole tho), thing is i'm actually strong enough but i just didn't do anything because i'm stupid and submissive, now i'm alright i dont ever let anybody touch me without my permission
Also you might get your T levels checked

Ok, I get it, she's transgender. But why doesn't she look like a woman? Why does she look like a monster?
What sane person goes outside looking like that and think "this is ok".
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>>19247265
this is what boomer women look like
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>>19254069
And she killed thousands to save one person
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>>19248809
>because it makes you feel icky
It's out of concern for children, fearing they will have their lives irreparably damaged.

I don't see why so many people here have such difficult understanding this.
It's exactly the same reason you want the option for earlier transitions. He's just on the opposing side.
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>>19247265
>diversity hire
>is still an old white male
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>>19247265
>Why does she look like a monster
The older a jew gets the more they start to look like an A Wyatt Mann caricature.

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The last thread went pretty well and was fun. Post your main or who you think is interesting from any fighting game and have people guess your letter.
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im apart of bullied out of the guilty gear discord gang, Ramlethals rise up.

Or Byakuya mains in UNIB
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>>19251721
Zoomer

>>19252098
How did a straight guy get here

>>19252215
Gay

>>19252506
Mtf or ftm

>>19252998
Mtf


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When did you realized you werent gay?
I did when i kissed a guy and touched his penis
Really Disgusting desu
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>>19258133
when i choked on a guy's penis and swallowed all his cum, it's then I decided i wasn't gay
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>>19258242
phew that was a close one wasn't it
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>>19258133
I have this horrible feeling this is gonna happen, barely into sex as it is. yet i'm not into women in the slightest.
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>>19258542
Yeah I was very worried for a minute there
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Man this was a weird moment for me. I was deep DEEP in repression through my teens and fully thought i was straight. Realised i was gay when i made out with a guy for the first time and we moved onto the bed and i felt his boner through his pants.

I was so so so fucking nervous but jesus it was like the hottest thing ever to me. Ive been completely and all for men since.

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does my face pass? i know my body passes
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>>19258877
>does my face pass?
Yes, but the most female thing about you is the whorish validation seeking in this thread
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>>19258976
Show us your tats!
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>>19259036
first time i've heard that one! i only have that one, it's the OWSLA logo, my favorite record label. got it at this amazing place up in minneapolis.
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>>19258877
You definitely pass gurl
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you look so pogggers wow

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>/agpg/ autogynephilia general: Bridal edition

Do you wish to get married some day?
Do you want to be the bride?

>Becoming What We Love:
https://muse.jhu.edu/article/222241/pdf
>Men Trapped in Men's Bodies:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MsWnRwzokH21f1WRg7nwS5hUgBaCT83N/view
>The Gender Variant Phenomenon:
http://www.avitale.com/developmentalreview.htm
It's strongly recommended that you read these books before you post! The large variety of first hand experiences with being AGP are the important parts, and are must reads if you feel ashamed of your AGP in any way. You are not alone in your struggle to understand and express your desires!

Awaken Your Inner Girl Now!


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>>19257418
That's silly. How can they tell?
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>>19256034
The thing is, I was never scared of what my parents would think. They're both very open minded and kind, and I'm blessed to have them. The main reasons I repressed so long and hard was fear of being a hideous hon and a lack of understanding of what trans is. I didn't know muchbat all about hormone therapy until a few years ago, and just thought trans people did a lot of surgery lmao.
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>>19254955
Yes. I want to wear a tight white sports bra and be on a women's soccer team and go on long runs and where my boobs still jiggle a little and get sweaty. I want to be on the field in a tight white uni that starts to become see through as I get sweaty and I am being watched by hundreds of people. Funny thing is I have the sports bras and the leggings but I will never be able to make it feel real

Maybe in another life
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I wonder what it's like to be a tomboy cis woman discovering her own sexuality for the first time and guys who up until that point have been her peers suddenly seem irresistible, like she would feel the oddly exhilarating kind of weakness just by what they say and what they do.
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>See cute anime
God, I wish I was her
>See action movie
God, I wish I was him.

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Does your body pass?
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>>19258752
I think the advice “just work out lol” is as vague enough to be useless. Of course we know excersize helps with general health my point is that it doesn’t widen hips ya goofball
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>>19258807
I'm worried about passing, not looking good. I'd rather be a 3/10 passing woman than a 10/10 non passer.
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>>19258814
You just gotta make it. Anything will help. Anything is good. Find any kind of workout you enjoy doing.
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>>19258761

>i think she hates me now. idk why.

Why do you think she hates you? Does she not talk to you anymore?
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>>19258807

Workouts for ciswomen focus on getting a narrower/smaller/leaner butt/hip-region because they often have the problem of too much butt/hips. All tranners ITT need broader hips tho to balance out their masculine bone structure. You can try to build muscle but be sure to eat enough because what makes a womans butt look like a womans butt predominantly bone structure and fat.




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