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General for gender non-conforming men.

QOTT: what are your short and long term goals?

Sticky: https://pastebin.com/rmr0v3jB

Discord: discord.gg/bxQaahk

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Suffering really bad recently. Really want it all to end. Can't stand the stress and pain.
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>>17983161
I love u
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I think my twink fem bf is slowly moving into femboy territory. I fucked him in a collar and thigh highs and a microbikini.
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>>17983175
Hearing that feels nice even though its meaningless. I wish I had a clear path.

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How do you cope with being attracted to androgynous men but understanding that both their androgyny and your attraction are symptoms of a dying civilization?
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>>17979621
Different cultures treat sexuality differently and seem to have different results.
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>>17976359
I dream of a feminized world. That is a true utopia.
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>>17976623
You're gay, you wont have biological children.
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>>17983029
I have shit genes anyway so adoption is fine
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>>17975966
I'm on the flipside (more androgynous) and idk how to cope. I'm just kinda taking it one day at a time I guess, doing what I can to counterbalance the damage my lacking masculinity does to society

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>lesbian becomes NB/FTM
>starts taking dick
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>>17982032
Prenatal t and probably pubertal t effects how the brain is formed
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>>17982068
interesting theory, am i meta attracted to women now?
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>>17982068
ok blanchtard
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>>17982094
Depends are you mtf, if so it could either be you were meta attracted to men before or estrogen just lowered your libido so much you now aren't as picky/more emotional based. I think the latter idea is more likely since feigning attraction is hard whilst testosterone dominant. Many hsts become more aesthetically/emotionally attracted to girls, not cause they're really sexually into women but the horniness that t causes is stripped from them
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>"lesbian" can't resist dick
>i was enbie all along...

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do i pass?
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>>17983003

i have interacted with more black women than probably any non-black person on this board desu, because i've worked retail in atlanta for several years including a walmart with 90% black customers and 99.9% black employers for 9 months. my personal experience is actually relevant here
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>>17982999
>this is just objective fact lol anyone arguing otherwise either has never seen a black woman in person or is lying

you literal disproved your own point with the last 2 pictures you posted.
of course you have /pol/ rot on your mind so you cant even see people objectively.
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>>17975810
fix those brows and get some makeup.

being black is easymode.
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>>17975810
practice more natural makeup looks, thin your eyebrows from underneath to raise them and give you more lid space - unrelated but I think you would look cute with big reading glasses even if you don't need prescription
and try to go for more natural wigs, the ones you post are cutesy and fun but they usually only look great when people wear these colors/styles with heavy cosplay makeup - if you like to wear them out you can never go wrong with wearing a cute hat that covers the roots of the wig
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>>17975810
not you, creepy you are saving it off of this board, and she passes but a nose ring would help and be cute

What in the nanny fucking shit brains is LGBT doing on a Chan website you little sissy boy cucks
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>>17981632
stupid newfag, the whole trap trend started on 4chan
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>>17981632
election tourist I take it?
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>>17981632
how new are you, and i`m guessing you`re 14.
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>>17981632
Back to Facebook, pede.
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>>17981632
Kill yourself, newfag.

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so if im into another trans girl does that make me an autogynephilephile, a gynoandromorphophile, or an autogynoandromorphophile? im not a trans girl but if i hypothetically was one
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it depends on whether you both pass or not

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I met someone really nice and honestly way smarter than me on a dating app despite neither of us really liking the concept of hookup culture. The problem is I'm just now starting to uncover their freaky side. I'm afraid it's starting to lean into degeneracy despite their pretty trad views on relationships. They're honestly ashamed of some of the stuff they find sexually appealing. Should I just fall into the pit and kinda satisfy these pretty unorthodox beliefs? If I suppress this behavior with making them go nofap will it go away or build up over time?
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>>17983086
Spooked as fuck. If they want to do something, they'll do it, if they don't, they'll make up excuses like "tradition". Lying to themselves is going to just bite them in their ass.
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>>17983086
what do they like? i need to know, you cant leave us hanging like this
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>>17983086
Unfortunately I can relate to this. I have certain interests I keep repressed for the greater good. Don’t do anything you’re not comfortable with Anon. I’m telling you that as a guy who is likely similar to the person you’re with. It’s possible to keep the demons inside so don’t let him make you feel that you HAVE to do anything you don’t like.
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i think you should do what is best for both you and your partner, op. I think that it is always most healthy for a person to be sexually satisfied in their relationship, but if one side of the relationship isn't into what the other person needs, then that's a situation you have to stop and think about for a minute. I think the discussion between you two should be phrased in a "how can we do the best for both of us?" kind of way.

best of luck, fren
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>>17983098
They're into the diaperplay and ddlg. Maybe if we were like 14 I'd buy into it but we're both in college

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What could HRT realistically do with this body? I'm 21 btw.
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>>17974382
Fat redistribution will help with softness and give you some shape to your hips, itll help make your arms less masculine, but it won’t do much about yours shoulders. It’s not the worst starting position to have, and not much worse than mine was, and I do pretty well. What’s more important is the side angle for you, I think. How’s the rib cage, is it broad? It doesn’t look too bad from the front. Your shoulders aren’t terrible either, just obviously wider than the average cis woman.
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>>17974382
widen your hips by a slight but significant margin, give you B cups, and all around softer body
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>>17974382
It’s risky but you could take black marker relaxin to make your hips bigger
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>>17974382
Just give it a shot, there's not really anything to lose. There's not many people who had feminine bodies pre hrt
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>>17979750
You need borises cock in your ass bitch

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STOP GHOSTING ME
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Have you tried being poly?

If you take in partners faster than you break up with them you can build up a buffer of partners, so when one breaks up with you, you don't have to wallow in sadness alone. Not knowing if it might be years before you meet someone you're compatible with, and they happen to be monogamous, yet single and interested. And then you have to assume they aren't lying about one or more of those things. I mean, what is cheating, but someone saying their monog while secretly indulging their poly inclination. We have the patriarchy/theocracy to thank for making so that Cis/het/monogamy was literally the only legal option for centuries, but those chains have been broken.
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lmao stop being a bpd freak and you wouldn't have that issue
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>>17982730
This
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>>17979019
I'm like that too :/ real nigga til the end uwu
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I ghost people all the time because I'll get some spontaneous desire for friendship, but then my introverted nature kicks in and it becomes too draining to keep up. I don't want to ghost but I have no idea what else to do, I've spent hours trying to write messages explaining why I don't want to talk to someone anymore, but it never sounds right and I don't manage to send anything.

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When is it too late to go on HRT

I don't live alone and i wouldn't be supported so going on hrt would be risky, but it eats away at me and i dont know if ill ever be able to repress. Im 20 how much time do i have left before im guaranteed hon
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>>17980856
your life*
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>>17980841
wow, someone on the board who actually passes
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>>17980856
Cry more
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>>17980427

>I'm 20
it's too late, kill yourself.
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>>17980427
I have no clue but 23 sure was too late for me.

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Im too broken to be around other people, I hate exposing other people to my toxic bullshit. I dont even know what im doing here anymore.

At least there I couldnt off myself and I couldnt hurt anyone else. It was just me and my stuffie and some books. They gave me all the meds I could ever need to not need to think again. I wanna go back.

Im almost 23 with nothing to look forward to and no long term connections because I push everyone I care about away so they dont have to deal with me anymore. Unironically I actually have none now.

I dont eat. I dont sleep. I consume drug to cope and its not even working anymore. Life is suffering. Nobody reached out to me for thanksgiving because im a disappointment to everyone in my family. I ate maybe 400 calories that day and felt like a pig for it. What the fuck is the point.

Theres only one place I belong.
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>>17979396
if pic rel is living with you, why don't you two bond over your apparent alienation/distrust from the outside world, and help give eachother some courage to pursue self improvement and feel more at ease outside of the psych ward.
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>>17978118
You are super duper fucked and doomed and also I agree psych ward is top comfy id go back and probably will
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>>17979396
I wish I knew you irl so I could give you a hug
I hope things work out for you sometime and that you're able to rebuild yourself
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>>17976762
the week i spent in the ward was probably the best of my life. no worrying about what to do. no big problems to deal with. just one day to the next. picking out stupid little meals on a sheet of paper (hamburgers again please) and sharing comics i got from family with the guy across the hall. shit was easy. real life is hard and it's full of too many hard problems that nobody else will take care of or help you with. too many decisions.
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>>17977998
yep, exactly this. it made living a lot easier having everything scheduled in advance and sharing that schedule with others.

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22 sadly and still boymoding at 24
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>>17978332
>then again I want a big man to embrace me and tell me I'm cute so... I guess some have to be men for us to have that
I say this often too lol! Some of them have to take that crap so we can have boyfriends and husbands.
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>>17974807
I'm 20, I still haven't. Plan to partially hormonally transition at 22 or 24. I wanted to go on hormone blockers at like 12 but couldn't, god life would be easier if I did.
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18 and I never thought about it until now... but I think transitioning is really something for me. I've never felt socially, sexually or spiritually accepted but, that was until I met my new transitioned, pansexual, demigod roommate Ernesto. Never seemed to really fit in with the other boys, but after meeting Ernesto I think this change may be one of my only hopes at unveiling my true self. Thoughts?
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>>17983040
Be sure Time and testosterone stand still for no tran.

Listen to daddy Jocko and practice aggressive decision making. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Joatn09rLGg

If you want something and you are certain you want it, don't be the sitting duck and wait for it to happen.

cisbians using “I’m just not attracted to penises"

Expect not one is attracted to penises. No one is attracted to vaginas. No one is attracted to genitals. You’re attracted to a person.

When you first see someone you’re attracted to them as a person. You don’t know what genitals they have, implying you can tell a trans person from a cis person is cissexist and would force you to admit you are attracted to trans people before you find out they’re trans.

So ask yourself why you’d be attracted to a trans person until you find out they’re trans or what genitals they have?

Hint: It’s because you’re a sad little transmisogynist and you deserve to have your teeth beaten in.
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>>17982845
I'm just gonna have to accept being gay one of these days since my whole sexuality revolves around loving dick too but damn, i never asked for this. it was always there. right from the start of puberty, agp tendencies even earlier than that.
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>>17982886
Honestly I love breasts too, which is why I my preference for trans women is at the top.
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>>17974568
It's either a bait or pure retardation.
Genital preferences are a thing. Technically, I'm a bi mtf top, but I vastly prefer fucking cis men, while I can fuck a pussy, pussies still weird me out because I became a bishit quite late in my life, and fucking a dude is just hotter and more natural to me.
For a good and healthy relationship I need both romantic and sexual lives to be fulfilling, if I'm attracted to a person, but sexually they aren't what I'm looking for they get friendzoned.
Personally, I also don't consider FtMs and bottom dysphoric MtFs to be good dating or even hookup partners. Our compatibility is pretty much nonexistent.
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>>17982905
It's bait, they always mention the teeth knocking thing.
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>>17974568


>>17974568
>Expect no one is attracted to penises.
i am, anon.
i want to smooch a big dick so bad as a symbol of my pure respect, admiration and submission to it.
i want to pleasure one so bad

I’ve had ~4 cisbians reject me in the last month. Two of them said something along the lines of “Sorry, I like women.” with that little smirk when they say ‘women’. One of them had the fucking nerve to say “I’m not into dick.” One decent one said “I’m not looking to date right now,” and didn’t try to passive aggressively insult me, but of course I knew the real reason.
This is the kind of discrimination trans women face. Especially lesbian trans women.
But of course, TERFs have the gall to deny it, and not only that; no, we have “male privilege” too.
Transmisogynists do not care about women. They care about those they deem “good enough”.
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>>17980344
>estrogen penis =/= testosterone penis. they are different physiogically
What kind of a cope is that? Bottoms with genital dysphoria are hilarious in how you cope with it. My E dick is still definitely a dick, and is used like all dicks, I top men with it. The only major difference is how it smells, even after all these years this smell change weirds me out, so bizarre, bi guys say that it's funny and confusing that it smells more like fem genitals.
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>>17982099
Like white guys who "just don't find black skin attractive" we need to look at the sociological construction of that preference, and not just take it at face value.

Any lesbian could say "I'm not attracted to you" and that would be valid, but when they make the declarative statement "I'm not attracted to MEN" to a trans woman they are being shitty and transphobic, categorically misgendering all trans women. That's textbook transphobia.

Cisles just have the cis privilege of openly transphobic to a trans person's face and facing no consequences.

But calling them phallophobic is stupid. Just call them TERFs.
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>>17982099
Nah it's dumb. I wouldn't call a straight guy homophobic for not wanting to fuck a guy.
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>>17983035
jesus christ dude
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>>17983035
nah dont make this a race thing
You don't get black people bleaching their skin and then demanding white people date them.

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bitch got a penis
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>>17982828
Not me :(
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so? so what?




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