ITT: anachronistic looking equipment
>>51199843The entire Swiss Guard is pretty anachronistic.
>>51206894The guys in the pantaloons are not the entire guard.
>>51202161> jet-poweredIt's a turbo prop. There will always be a role for low and slow ground support aircraft.
>>51202012yes? its cheap, it is a trainer so it'll fly with anything, can take retarded loads. and has all the whizzbang electronics to shoot gooderer.for the price of one f35 you can fly like 12 of these things or some crap.
>>51206925Is it true theyre packing mp7s in those hammer pants?
How would a Cessna 172 armed with rocket pods or MGs fare if it were transported back in time over the trenches of world war 1?
>>51204961would probably get golden bb'd by 1000 krauts with mausers
Not great! I'm not sure if fuel would be available, but let's say it was. It would probably be far more capable in terms of dogfighting, wth boom and zoom capabilities due to improved engine specs translating to better top speed and acceleration (I'm assuming). When it comes to ground attack roles I'd have to assume it would fare no better than other planes (ignoring speed). Anti air and infantry would still pose a threat.
>>51204961Hard to say. Typically you're gonna get 105-110kts out of a 172, which is faster than a Fokker D.VIIF but a little slower than an S.E5a. I can't be fucked checking but I have a suspicion that your climb rate in the 172 is going to be less than WW1 fighters, and they'll probably have a turn rate advantage. On the other hand, you're going to be tougher than they are, so there's a good chance you could dive faster than most WW1 types to escape, and while a C172 isn't certified for flight in IMC, you could in theory duck into cloud and be more confident of being able to come out the other side of it with your instruments than they could with theirs. Where you'll have a big disparity is reliability - WW1 fighters were notoriously unreliable to the point that fights tended not to get down to low altitude often, partly because of the threat of ground-based machine gun fire, but also because conventional wisdom was to remain at a height that you could glide back to the other side of the line if the engine stopped. In terms of using the rocket pods, at low level you're still vulnerable to machine gun fire, but depending on how fire control was set up, you might be able to mitigate that by firing your rockets at them, but that would deprive them of use against whatever you were supposed to be shooting at. It might interest you to know that rockets were actually carried and used by fighters in WW1, but only as a weapon against observation balloons - static, tethered balloons filled with hydrogen that both sides used to direct artillery. All in all, I don't think you're going to be at some monstrous advantage in any particular area but I also don't think you'd be dramatically outclassed either.
>>51204978So are WW1 biplanes.
>>51204978It’s faster than WWI planes
It’s been 10 years, when are they going to reveal what the stealth hawk really looks like?
>>51206214meant for>>51206139
>>51206139>50 years oldI bet that guy has more stick time than you've jerked off>>51205882Yes, these kinds of missions get that kind of treatment. It's not that weird.
>>51189730it never existed>>51189748this is more real and substantial
>>51199328Oh, so it does actually exist...
>>51206224Because he was the link that failed.
Why do noguns always want to buy meme super high caliber guns like the Deagle, S&W 500, .50 cal rifle, BFR's and so on.Almost every noguns or people who only own a single gun they never shoot want one of the following or something similar.I do not understand this mindset at all.
>>51199220>.41 magnumCriminally underrated caliber
>>51199167As you get older, novelty isn't as important and then you notice that 7.62 nato is a perfectly acceptable and affordable full power rifle round and 1911's really are nice to shoot
They overestimate the strength of their shoulders and then denounce .50 as a garbage ammo type from their hospital bed.
>>51199066I'd get one of those if I lived in Alaska. Just for everyday carry. Never know when you might get attacked by moose or bears.
>>51199066What if they just want something big and cool? It doesn’t take a noguns to want that.
I Keep Coming Across These CD Book Collection things pic related, are they worth getting and what are the odds they have malware.
>>51207060Don't put that in your computer, my brother died like that.
>>51207116good to know, thanks anon
/v/ transplant here. Trying to design a custom ARMA faction. Can any /k/amouflage lovers identify these patterns? Thank you
troll bait
>>51207002If I wanted to bait someone I'd post something about .40SW. I just want to know what the patterns are called.
>>51207068VSR camobye bye
Have you heard anything new and unusual or is it the same old same old?> Been hearing a lot of "Women" screaming lately, is that a new thing. Random chick in parking lot (or where ever) screaming at the top of her lungs. I've heard 6 of these calls in the last week. Whats up with these bitches?P.S. also a lot of really dumb fucks flashing guns at other drivers, the new one is its the passengers flashing to drivers...How fucking stupid?? Fuck this gay gun crowd!
>>51205433Last time I sat and listened to a police scanner was during the Minneapolis St Paul riots last year. I think it was the 2nd or 3rd day.The chick dispatcher sounded 110% done with the rioters as did all the cops.I can't remember how many lootings I heard or buildings set on fire. I even remember hearing rocks hitting some riot cop's shield as he spoke on the radio.Oh and I heard that a group of people were hurling stuff at Fire Fighters who were trying to put out the fires they had set.
here we just have the average weekend DUI's and domestic violence and speeders, but now we have homeless carpet bagging niggers from California doing their California acts here and ending up in prison. People dont put up with shirtless niggers harassing people i stores and on the sidewalks. Cops give them 2 or 3 warnings then its off to the hoosegow! They are all mentally ill too. I wish my state have private airliner they could fill with this vermin and fly them to Maryland or Connecticut. Oh Yeah, saw on of the new wall hoppers walking down the sidewalk before. Had that stupid look on his face of >Well Im here in the good old USA, NOW WHAT!
>>51205433>women screaminghttps://youtu.be/m7mYS3oCI74
>>51206168OMFG>this is weapons right? Please someone shoot me or shoot that beast OMGWTF!
>>51205433>punch>not rapeDegenerate anti rapist that hates America
ITT: Kino futurist weapons. Extra points for a mix of retro and futurism.Just watched BR2049 for the first time and am slurping up all the kino.
hand held bofors
The future is multicaliber anon
Do you regret buying any of your guns?
>>51206762The handling on ARs is terrible. Maybe a fixed stock, pencil barrel and plastic handguard makes them better though
>>51202281yeah i have a henry .22 and i hate it. it came new from the factory bent as shit and its unusable past 10 yards
>>51202281NO.
>>51205409Bren 2 guy here. I fucking hate CZ after this (used to be a complete fanboy) and will never trust anything new from them again. That being said, I believe their handguns are generally solid and still have my RAMI. The Phantom will likely be at least decent but woe unto you if you have to deal with CZUSA customer support, even when they’re not jerking your dick around with shitty broken x39 Brens whose military versions somehow work they take absolutely forever and their staff is entirely incompetent. Seriously, first four times I called them the employees did not even know what a Bren 2 was lmao.
>>51205821It was double feeding rounds when I would press check it. Locked the slide up and wouldn’t release the mag. Slide release never broke in properly. Trigger wasn’t great. P-01 was an omega model which had a really shitty stacky double action and malfunctioned quite a bit. It also started rusting out from daily carry even with routine cleaning and oiling. PCR was alright but the sights sucked for carry and I couldn’t put a light on it. I just carry a stock Glock 19 these days.
8 pockets. 8 fucking pockets. What modern brand makes a jacket with 8 pockets?
>>51205601>>51205667Aw did I hurt your feelings? A little close to the mark I guess, I'm sorry anon. I tell you what, if it makes you feel better, you can imagine I'm gay. I'm sure it's hard to go through life with the social handicaps you contend with so out of pity for your miserable existence, I'll grant your insult creedence. I'm gay now. However tomorrow when you wake up, you'll waddle to the bathroom, look in the mirror and say to yourself "well, it's Saturday, I'm still a sad, lonely, useless waste of oxygen that anon probably isn't really gay."
>>51205301If you’re in all matching camo, then yes. If it’s just a jacket then no.
>>51205540>>51205762Kek! Fag alert.
>>51205628
>>51205540tl;dr?
Just bought a Vortex Spitfire AR and I'm not sure what to think of it. I have mild astigmatism that makes red dots starburst if I'm not wearing glasses, and this is by far the clearest 1x optic that I've looked through without glasses. Previously I was using an EOTech XPS2 which worked better than a red dot but still looked blurry if I didn't wear glasses. Also, since the Spitfire AR has an etched reticle I won't have to worry about buying irons for this POS gun. The biggest issue I have with it is that it has less than 1x zoom... probably like 0.9x zoom. It also lacks the unlimited eye relief of a red dot. I can still return it to Cabela's for the next 3 months so I can try it out for a while before I decide if I want to keep it. Any advice? Are there any true red dots that don't starburst for someone with astigmatism?>INB4 just get your eyes fixedI asked my eye doctor about Lasik and he said that my vision isn't bad enough to justify it and that I would have to shop for a doctor who would allow it.Also should I rattlecan the gun gray? Sick of looking at the M&P tramp stamp. Will probably replace it with a DD in a few years, this is my first AR15.
Every time I see astigmatism brought up with dots I just laugh. Literally never heard of people bitching about it ten years ago. You're astigmatism isn't as bad as you think it is and if it really is? Get laser eye surgery and then worry about optics. You'll be happier.
>>51206893The board is getting older
>>51206908Never saw it back in my arfcom lurker days either and that's a lot of old fuck
>>51206908Astigmatism has nothing to do with age.>>51206930Illuminated optics were far less common in the past, and people tend to assume that everyone sees the same thing they do unless they're told otherwise.
>>51206961>Aimpoints and cheap dots didn't exist 10 years agoStfu zoomer. My point is people didn't used to bring it up constantly like it was a real issue when it literally isn't. Buy a quality dot and stop talking about your faggotism.
What do you use for your EDC light? Not talking about the light attached to your pistol or rifle, but the light you keep in your pocket or clipped on your belt or whatever.Should I go for rechargeable batteries like pic related? It can also use non rechargeable so it seems like a good pick. I already have a WML that uses CR123a batteries so I was thinking rechargeables would be good for my hand held light.
What are the recommended batteries to look for? I bought a bunch of chink batteries off ebay a while back I'm looking to replace. 18650s
>>51201244LG, Sony, Panasonic
>>51202042Fair enough, I'll go lurk battery junction for some of them. Thank you
any good black friday sales?
>>51205576olight.
>The s.S. ball projectile with a 5.9 millimetres (0.23 in) long 6° 25′ 51″ boat tail was designed for long range use and offered the best aerodynamic efficiency and external ballistic performance of any standard rifle bullet used during World War II, with a G1 ballistic coefficient between 0.593 and 0.557 (ballistic coefficients are somewhat debatable) or a ballistic coefficient of approximately 0.295 (G7). >Even by contemporary (2012) standards 1000+ m (1,094+ yards) effective supersonic range is quite remarkable for a standard military rifle round. >In 1940 Germany introduced S.m.E. - Spitzgeschoß mit Eisenkern ("spitzer with iron core") — mild steel cored projectile ammunition.[24][31] The S.m.E. ammunition was developed to replace the s.S. ammunition to save on lead and other metals that became scarce in Germany during World War II. >In 1943 the lead content of the S.m.E. bullet was further reduced. To compensate for the lead reduction the mild steel core was redesigned resulting in a projectile lengthened to 39.8 mm (1.57 in) to retain the original S.m.E. bullet weight of 11.55 g (178.2 gr).>The S.m.E. lg external ballistic characteristics were practically identical to s.S. ammunition up to 1,400 m (1,531 yd) and the lengthened S.m.E. lg projectile was more accurate compared to the shorter S.m.E. projectile.Wait so the resource saving alternative they came up with out of desperation outperformed the original bullet that was already the best of the war?How the fuck does that happen?And when will American manufacturers stop downloading the rounds because of muh antiques? Plenty of new or even just not ancient guns can handle the pressures the cartridge is designed for.
>>51203772Turned out to be a boomer hunting round.
>>51203303
>>51203585>Decreasing a bullet's density but maintaining the same weight and diameter means increasing length. Longer length increases the ballistic coefficient due to reduced aerodynamic drag with roughly identical velocity retention due to weight.>Basically, the physics behind iron-core ammo having a higher BC is the same as modern copper or brass solids. However, increasing length decreases stability so you may need a faster twist rate.Solid post for the OP's question. And, in the USA, the antigun politicians have banned steel core ammo for the most part. The only one left still manufactured and sold to the public is the partial mild steel core M855/SS109 projectile. Steel core plinking and target ammo could lower ammo costs and reduce lead consumption thereby lower lead and ammo prices for other ammunition, but there are drawbacks to steel core ammo as well. Necessity is the mother of invention. Aluminum core or tipped, long and high-BC bullets are interesting.
>>51206738>Steel core plinking and target ammo could lower ammo costs and reduce lead consumption thereby lower lead and ammo prices for other ammunition, but there are drawbacks to steel core ammo as well.in the US, lead is cheaper than steel significantly. A pound of lead is also lighter than a pound of steel.
>>51206857>in the US, lead is cheaper than steel significantly. A pound of lead is also lighter than a pound of steel.KEK classic
This kills the Boomer>http://shootersnotes.com/battle-rifle-cartridge/iii-velocities/
>>51206583>$1 per round with 168 gr ELD-M handload, vs 1.50 per round with 150 grain 6.5 MK, also handloaded>barrel life maybe 1/3 of 308 (sub 1.5 MOA)yeah those are some pretty big fucking pros dude
>>51206277The wounding potential of smaller diameter bullets increases relative to .308 with increasing range. It stops increasing at 800 yards once everything is subsonic and aerodynamics matters less.
>>51206277the y axis is the ratio of wounding potentials between 2 cartiges, not absolute value
>>51206643308 remains supersonic well past 800 meters with most 150+ grain bullets my dude. They generally don't go subsonic with a 20" barrel and 168-175 grain bullets until 1000-1100 meters.
>>51206600>150gr 6.5MKYeah Nigger, use the 147gr EDLM and its 60-70ct
Is it a good idea to enlist right in the near future? I want to go Air Force and try to get into the TACP job. Also, carry handle supremacy
>>51206677Yes, just go guard or reserve this active paycheck fucking sucks
>>51206677right should be a dissipator instead of an sbr
>>51206812I would like to try out for the special tactics TACP in the future, and I saw that you have to be in active duty to get a chance to
>>51206821Maybe it’s a 733, or 723 build
