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Or, close to the question I really want answered - if you're not hunting birds, what is the point of a shotgun, for game or for home defense?

Obviously I don't wanna catch a chestful of double ought - but I also don't want to catch a 308 either.

Is there some magical combination of distance and loading where shotguns outperform rifles of similar weight and size?

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The real question I have here is not really about firearms, it's about game design. Games often try to be "balanced" which sometimes leads to stupid shit like e.g. Mass Effect where pistols are more accurate than Assault Rifles.

And thinking about game balance, I got to thinking about the point of shotguns in a game. Is there (again, besides shooting at birds or, I guess, drones) anything they're better at than a similar size rifle?

Clearly people purchase shotguns in real life so they must have some advantage - but what is it? Is buck shot actually better for taking a buck than punching a 308 through its chest cavity?
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>>58430218
>implying every single person on 4chan doesn't occasionally browse /v/

I actually never have. I don't care about other people's opinions on video games, and don't particularly feel the need to share my own.
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>>58430134
>the real question is not about firearms, it's about game design

remind me again where you're asking about guns?
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>>58420693
You are so obviously an underage nogunz faggot.
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>>58421302
>You can sneak around ponds and just shoot them on the water with a rifle
Because that’s illegal in every state. People do it for fun, so hitting flying birds is way more of a challengd

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What are some good books or other sources to read about US/Coalition and Taliban tactics in Afghanistan?
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Yeah it’s probably alright for you in moderation. I like two cream two sugar per 12 Oz cup.
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>>58431365
This is /k/
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>>58431381
He can't stand the sight of a Russian, his autism makes him freak out
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>>58431343
Rape
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>>58431343
Pretty sure there is alot of books, but the coalition tactics come down to targeting anti coalition groups on the region and leaving it in the control of the ANA afterwords. The taliban tactics changed a bit because they wait until the coalition to leave and also set up some IEDs. Along with targeting officials associated with the Afghan republic. The taliban tried fight the coalition head on, but that ends up in failures and even taking a pot shot will lead to a quick death.

>enter a knife fighter's "zone"
you done goofed.
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>>58430843
You're a faggot because you're acting like "disemboweling a degenerate" is "cost", and not a benefit in and of itself. Slotting retard trash isn't a "necessary evil" it's an objective good. You should be happy to do it.

Any decent person should *want* to do what he did. You should be willing to pay for it.
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>>58420280
>he's turned around helplessly and getting stabbed repeatedly
The epitome of the concept fuck around and find out.
Moralising idiots are attempting to make the idea of self defense irrelevant by pretending a criminal has no intent to cause harm.
As a functional human you have no intention to go out an cause harm, but if you where placed into a situation that mean you where desperate enough to attack someone you are desperate enough to kill someone - if you where not that desperate you would have chosen a path other than violence.
Self defense works on the assumption that if there was no intent to harm, or atleast a disregard for the possibility of harm, they would have avoided violence.
You are simply responding in light of that intent.
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>>58430843
>can't even rob a wagie in the USA
Hello??? Isn't that a good thing?
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>>58419816
>the spinal stab
was it necessary?
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>>58431862
He was a fan of Spiñal (can't do the N trema) Tap I guess

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Ukraine is fucked once Russia decides to deploy it's ace in the hole
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>>58428325
If nothing else chinks are really really good at (and absolutely obsessed with) keeping appearances. You can bet anywhere an officer might show up is kept squeaky clean, although other places probably not so much.
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>>58421117
KEK
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>>58421078
Judging from its track record, slightly more than the russians currently feed it
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>>58421011
Welp. it was a good run for a while Ukie sisters.
Guess its tie to pack it in.
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>>58421055
>but can it play doom?

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Would weather weapons be effective in war? By weather weapons, I mean things like man made tsunamis, droughts caused by cloud seeding, artificial forest fires, or perhaps engineered pests that damage food crops
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The US literally used weaponized weather in Vietnam and it was kind of successful.
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>>58430941
I see, that retard of pic is talking about the nuclear coperdo
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>Literally some schizo on the street
It's like twatter, except even worse.
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If drown swarms ever become super serious I thought that localized tornado generation may become a thing using something similar to how cloud seeding goes.
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>>58431865
>drone swarms

KWAB

https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/06/03/frontline-report-russian-insurgents-imitate-large-scale-attack-prepare-for-referendum-in-russias-belgorod-oblast/

RVCBROS... WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK!
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>>58426641
>We cannot stand against both Mordor and Isengard
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>>58427712
>LotR reference

Cringe
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>>58428381
You are cringe
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>>58426722
>Reject K-Pop
>Embrace S-Pop

https://youtu.be/SU1apJTv94o
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>>58427600
Kek

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Congratulations /k/, you are gifted a are magical staff that allows you to summon 4 loyal military related beings that will follow your exact orders and are given all of their guns/gear/ammo that they require. The catch is that they cannot speak a language you understand and are only around for 12 hours then they disappear for 36 hours before you can summon them again. What current (or past) country would you overthrow using them?
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>>58429230
>>58429130
>>58429084
>>58428840
All that matters is if they can have your children. Both biologically, and by the conditions of the OP.
(i.e. do they "reset" each day when they disappear?)
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>>58422792
I choose Esdeath, Albedo, Faora, and finally an extremely OP booba sorceress that can, among many things, create infinitely customizable OP minions so I can create anyone else I can think of at any time regardless of military relation, and open up portals to parallel universes, fuck your gay ass rules
All speak Classical Latin, a prime Monica Bellucci minion is created to teach me, they also learn English
>What current (or past) country would you overthrow using them?
All of them... eventually, but my dick comes first
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>>58431553
>extremely OP booba sorceress that can, among many things, create infinitely customizable OP minions
You couldn't even come up with a name.
No-imagination "I wish for more wishes" fags get to spend eternity with Pinhead and the Cenobites.
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>>58431682
Her name is OP booba sorceress
Or as I like to call her, magic tits, or sometimes just "mmmmm" while my habds are outstretched and making a squeezing motion in her direction
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I would summon the cast of EYE Divine Cybermancy and have MC Rimanah triangular gate the religious leaders of nation controlling cults. Also there would be lots of Franco-Germanic-Japa-Chinese swearing and I’d score myself a Fuller Auto SMG since EYE agents can conjure that shit out of thin air.

wood edition

post wood (furniture)
admire wood
handle wood
embrace wood

thread theme ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_V6y1ZCg_8&feature=youtu.be

As always; No Trips, No Traps, No Airsoft
Previous Thread: >>58363341
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>>58422282
So you want op pic M1A wood stock? Well, of course you do!
Lam is more stable: https://www.dupagetrading.com/product/java-laminate-m14-stock-set/
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>>58429101
>Yeah that's what I wanna do but at the same time I need to get the ball rolling on that new Flow 762 ti
I stupidly was lazy about it and missed my chance. Going to backorder it today though.
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>>58429948
Each Silencer bought advances us towards common use law. Keep doing your part.
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>>58431221
Not gonna kid myself, once you have a couple probably not helping much after, but having them has meant being able to introduce more people to them and dispel the very, very, very common misconceptions. Some have even become new owners, but if nothing else helps build political pressure. There is some obvious low hanging fruit there that really shouldn't be controversial if only we can make it something of a priority on even one side and avoid polarization too, which should also be possible. Doesn't have to be a big cause just a small one.
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Finally got a bipod on the vepr

Russian Civil War 2.0. Design your faction like an RTS. Choose their special weapons and tactics.

If Chechens don't have snackbar trucks, I ain't playing.
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>>58431326
>Shoigus curse: Factionwide penalty in ammunition generation
Gold.
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>>58431201
>the USSR might refoorm?
>not if the KGB has anything to say about it!
The 1993 was just the same coup done by the same people but disguised as a liberal uprising.
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>>58429890
>Wagner Group
Elite mercenary core made up of volunteers from russian ex-military and maybe some others supported by prison conscripts and random mercenaries they picked up in Africa as cannon fodder
Middling armor and almost no airforce
>New Russia
Has the best armor and airforce by far, but regular units are made up of unmotivated mobiks since all the best guys are either dead or joined Wagner for better pay
>Kadyrovite Horde
Fanatical force driving shitty vehicles "supported" by Kadyrovites proper who apply debuff on enemy morale but are middling at best themselves, no airforce at all

I am bad at making RTS
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Alternative concept: Cold Civil War
>the real Vladimir Putin died years ago
>different political factions have taken over and independently run seperate regions and elements of the country's government
>using body doubles, they have collectively created an illusion of him being still alive and managing affairs himself, allowing them to operate independently without the public catching on
>even within their own hierarchies only a handful of key individuals know the truth; many within may know about the body doubles, but merely think it's done for their leader's safety
>these seperate, independent factions continuously fight one another for greater control of Russia
>at the same time, they have to work together to keep up the deception of a single united government led by a beloved leader, lest the whole sham collapse around them
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>>58429890
so this is gonna be like Another Warhammer 40k Game?
Necromunda, The Russian Civil war.

Also I wanna have the Orthodox-Church.
Battle Priest.
Martyrs
Zealots

The old Communist Factions.
The Communist Commissars
Old Drunks/Mobiks that can only do Human waves
Old Russian hardware from before the WWII

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Will this catch on? To me it seems ideal for CC. Everyone wants the ballistics of 9x19, as much capacity as possible, and as small a frame as possible. Clearly these three demands conflict with each other. 30 Super Carry satisfies these requirements better than 9x19, .380 ACP or anything else. I could see 30 Super Carry growing in popularity with something like .380 phasing out.
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>>58431643
And it was developed during the high-cap magazine ban when people were trending to larger calibers to offset the lower capacity.
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>>58427098
I'm just mad it's not really 30 cal. If it was, I'd have been more interested.
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>>58431733
i think the biggest reason they created it was the police obsession with bigger calibers and hiring women as cops
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>>58431710
>>58429632
Bullet length fucks you from using any legacy designs for a custom barrel. Perhaps a 10mm Glock frame with special steel mags could get you the necessary clearance (32 vs 35mm OAL)?
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It seams like the famed artillery advantage of the russians is vanishing. Did ukies save up the shells for so long or do russians not engage in counter artillery stuff?
Are they starting the counter offensive in zappo?
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>>58430590
Worse, I held LPL and got rugged. No worries, making good gains elsewhere.
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>>58430615
I applaud thee
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>>58426929
Oh, if they were smart enough (And Ukies are) to hit exactly at the bridge part, that is not so easy to "quickly repair".

It's one thing to repair a rail track that has been bombed. It is entirely different to repair a railroad bridge.
That strike would have completely severed the ability to provide supply, maintenance, ammunition and food from the direction of Kerch Bridge to Melitopol.
If we are going to see similar strikes on railways on Melitopol-Tokmak-Chernihivka-Mariupol axis, that would leave that part of the front line pretty much without any heavy reinforcement or supply.

The russians might still try to bring in supplies to Melitopol-Mariupol axis on trucks, that that is nowhere near to be enough, if the Ukies are going to push to that direction.
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>>58426912
At this point I'm not sure if Smerch, Tornado-S, and especially the guided munitions for same, even exist. We've seen Uragan in combat, where are the Smerch?
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>>58426838
nah, you losers "refrained" from nuking Kiev because you have no functional nukes. The onlyy ones you potentially had were the ones you almost lost by dumping them near the front line so you could maybe use them.
Even if you fags could use them, patriots would shoot them down because your launch systems, personel and intel are that piss poor.

provided by planting IEDs in the path of your own withdrawaling forces?

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1664686772259782667
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>>58420521
intel was much more spotty in those days. Air recon was the only way of getting aero photos, no spy sats existed and the vatnik union was a paranoid police state with closed borders.

Even german, despite sitting right next to them, were disturbed at the amount of captured/destroyed gear that came out of the first year of Barbarossa
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>>58422673
Live and learn then, friend.
Every singly pillar on which modern society operates is a liberal invention, and every single time societies stray from the path of liberty they enter terminal decline.
The reason both ends of the horseshoe hate liberty is because it works, because it provides what their promise at a fraction of the costs and because it has consistently btfo them throughout history.
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>>58423773
We wanted anglo dominance for europe but the bongs dropped the ball on that one.
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>>58430586
My Plan for Israel and Palestine was just to nuke both if they can't figure out how to get along
There's no problem if you just nuked the Problems and it would overall save a lot of money
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>>58418236
t. Patton

What is the Submarine of the Skies? Is it the AC-130?
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>>58428447
What kind of submarine? nuclear? diesel? SSB, SSG, SSK?
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>>58428447
Comparing the look it's more an airship.
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>>58428447
There's nothing really perfectly comparable to a submarine's combination of isolation, stealth, and ability to glass entire continents. B2 is close but you don't spend 6 months in a B2 on each sortie. Spaceships are close in terms of isolation but they're not stealthy.
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>>58429675
>What is the Submarine of the Skies? Is it the AC-130?
It's this thing.
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>>58431007
My immediate thought is what happens if a rocket malfunctions and fails to clear the tailfin

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>>58430040

Meanwhile Russia struggled for 10 months to take ONE city....and apparently Ukraine STILL holds a tiny part of it, lol.
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>>58429614
>How has the Ukrainian military evolved in weapons use during the war?

Are we talking about the Ukrainian military 2014-2023, or just 2022-2023?
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>>58429813
That's very shallow overview mr. anon, i would add that even before himars we got a lot of at weaponry like Javelin, Panzerfausts and AT-4's which were incredibly important as before our guys literally couldn't do anything against russian armored groups with bmps and t72's besides just sitting in the trench aaand that's it. Technological superiority of russians felt a lot higher then it is now with all this western tech, as an example, i remember that during battles of Severodonetsk russians were picking ideal long range positions for their t-80BVM's and were using guided rockets from more than 5km range - meaning being absolutely involnurable
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>>58429991
The opening of the war was loterally a 'who can fuck up harder' competition

For example the ukranians had no military formations between kiev and belarus, they thought the main offensive would be in the east

If russia had used the tactics they actually trained their army in, soviet style wide front offensoves, instead of trying to replicate the iraq war, we could be looking at a very different situation today
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>>58430054
>city
Bakhmut is roughtly the size of Wilmington, Delaware.

Hey friends. Small thread about a clash that happened this morning and the weapons used.
It seems 3-4 Israeli soldiers armed with small arms broke into the Egyptian border and were killed by Ak-47s. I'll post scenes of the class and the guns used
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>>58429023
This is pretty bad even for conscript standard.
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That is antisemetic, our greatest ally is in jeopardy, send 4 trilion dollars.
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>>58428061
well deserved desu
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>>58427397
I don't hate Jews but Zionists deserve the most painful death.
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>>58431651
I don't hate Zionists but Jews deserve the most painful death.


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