It keeps evolving! New fortification meta just dropped
>>61504997Tbh, this should work since there is a shit ton of space between the netting and the silo. Wont stop UL planes packed with explosives or a cruise missile.Will work against backline saboteurs launching fpv drones tough.
>>61504997Looks fake desu
>>61504997Did they run out of car tires?
>>61504997oh no, we have to switch from an explosive to thermite *gasp*
>>61504997>*rams an unmanned plane into you*
>>61504997>i missed out on investing in Big RebarbFeels bad
Looks fake. Also, I doubt they have the money and manpower to put this shit up everywhere. Maybe this image is from some kind of proposal.
>>61504997This whole war was set up by Big Chain Link Fence.
>>61504997Did ziggers failed to notice that instead of KURWA BOBR, Ukies started using Ukrocessnas filled with explosives to the brim?
>>61505004>regular drone drops incendiary grenadeNot everything needs to be an fpv suicide drone, anon.
>>61505037This still isn't a use for LINK tokens
How long until they put these up on the Kremlin?
>>61505038Those Gazprom nepo plants gotta appear they're at least doing something or else they'd be the next one to get defenestrated by an angry Monke.
>>61504997I've said it since almost the beginning of this war, but all these copes will probably be a military historian's paradise or nightmare to research
>>61505004FPVs can fly through the nets anon.
>>61505004>Tbh, this should workYou'll get dozens of these responses every time cope cages are mentioned, and it's never true. It's some literal mental patient or glavset cock doing damage control.
>>61504997Will it stop a Cessna plon?
>>61505016The Russo-Ukrainian war just flew over my house!
>>61505139probably not. just fit the bomb with a delay fuse and it'll smash right through the next.
>>61504997bros, I don't know much about weapons, and I don't know much about industrial things. 1. How flammable are .50 BMG API rounds? 2. Would a .50 BMG API round penetrate those oil tanks? 3.a. Would a .50 BMG API round light the oil on fire? 3.b. Would it blow up the whole oil tank? 4. Could a dude with a .50 cal rifle simply shoot them at night from like half a mile away and then fuck off without getting caught?
>>61505082nyet, executive had a scaffolding misadventure
>>61504997>2 years into 3 day SMO
>>61505153The less liquid gas inside. the more likely it'll catch fire. But a .50 BMG API would most likely not do much, the walls of these things are pretty thick.If you want it to burn you don't shoot the big storage tanks, you shoot the pipelines.
>>61505159This would actually work in case of an assassination attempt.
>>61505153VeryYesNoNoNoFuel needs air, or an oxydizer, to ignite. Which is why cars do not blow up when the fuel catches on fire. You need to aerosolize a significant part of the fuel within to even get a partial explosion, and even then it's just going to rupture and burn, not explode.I imagine even an M2 with a full box of 100 API rounds is just going to leave 100 leaking holes in the side of it.
>>61505153They're tougher than most people think, generally on a big tank like that they have a 6mm-1/4" structural steel wall on the outer and a fairly thick layer of concrete on the outside that varies depending on the location and usually a 3mm thick inner which can also vary up to 6mm sometimes and there's a brace structure to keep it all together, Do it properly its all x-rayed quality welds and pretty fucking tough because there's a zero point of failure when you're dealing with hundreds of 1000's of litres of stuff that catches on fire.API will cruise through something like 2.5" or 7-8cm of solid steel at close range, I kind of doubt its going through 20-30cm of reinforced concrete with steel outer and inner shells. It might, but wouldn't guarantee it, I've seen it go through brick walls just fine and will quite happily go clean through even some light vehicles, but concrete takes a lot of the sting out of projectiles especially when its cured and poured properly like you get on an oil tank
>>61505262>layer of concrete on the outsidemeant to say inside (between the outer and inner walls)
they should cover their entire copeland with nets lol
>>61505153blowing up the tank won't do much, they can replace it pretty easily. Ukies aim for the expensive, irreplaceable, hight-tech columns that actually make oil usable.
>>61505355How do you turn a bakery into a munitions factory, Ivan from Washington Oblast?
>>61505355fucking lmao is that why Puccians need to buy worthless crap from Cousin Kim of Pyongyang Oblast?
>>61505364Offer up the space to be used for such a purpose. It would greatly help it it were located near the actual factory, I imagine. This has happened. Also, tons of people have literally gotten factory jobs because the government is offering to pay so much for the labor.
>>61504997Barrage balloons when?
>>61505355Can you show an example of this?
>>61505378>Russia is literally devolving into cottage industries to try and produce war material, Imperial Japan-style.>This is supposed to be a good thing according to vatnik shills.That's a big yikes.Also>efficentWhat you're describing is the literal OPPOSITE of efficiency. Shitty little cottage industries are exceptionally INEFFICIENT compared to proper industrial setups when it comes to mass production.
>>61504997How's it cope? It's a good idea. Total war is evolving to involve cheap RC toys with bombs crashing into things. This is a makeshift and evolving way to stop it.
>>61505402It's cope because it won't actually do anything substantial to stop the threat, barring perhaps (and I stress PERHAPS) force an adaptation of tactics that will be order sof magnitude cheaper than building all these new cope cages.
>>61505402>This is a makeshift and evolving way to stop it.AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Yeah, stop this 50kg bomb diving at 200km/h with HEAT precursor with you copenet
>>61505401>What you're describing is the literal OPPOSITE of efficiency.Way cheaper than getting a bunch of "experts" who get paid six figures each to manufacture a handful of rockets that cost several millions of dollars each. If the bad guys get wealthy enough in the coming decades, there's no way the West would win in an all-out war. Too many damn regulations, and the morale would be way too low to actually want to put your life on the line to fight for literal degeneracy.
>>61504997Drop the thermite load.
>>61505413>Way cheaper than getting a bunch of "experts" who get paid six figures each to manufacture a handful of rockets that cost several millions of dollars eachAlso does absolutely nothing to protect fuel
>>61505037>Here's what Bergandi don't want you to know about the war in Ukraine!
>>61504997Honestly not a bad idea
>>61505413
>>61505355>If
>>61505414You don't even need thermite. An explosive will turn the nets and cages into penetrators. They are just cheap metal. Set off an explosive, turns cage into molten metal jet going into the tank or whatever.Cope cages let the Ukrainians not have to pack anything but the explosive. Russians are just very stupid same with their shills.
>>61505450That's some wild theory. So the cage armor would effectively function like a shaped charge? I'm sure this would happen if properly tested.
>>61505443Didn't the ">if" memesters get BTFO in that war?
>>61505467They were virtually the only part of Greece to remain independent.
Seriously what the fuck you thinks going to happen putting cheap metal changes with easily to melt metal. An Explosive will go off and you have as fucking bunch of high speed molten metal cutting through your armor at high speeds nowRussians are just fucking stupid. Other countries use actual military grade steel for this kind of armor and it's insanely heavy. You can't just use regular steel that's absolutely insane and just adding weight and penetration metals.first person drones are hitting these cages and shooting buckshot bouncing around inside of vehicles because all the energy went into the penetrators rather than a flat surface spread out. 23 years of war. I've never seen a people as dumb as the Russians and their paki/Indian shills. What's next they cover their golf carts in reactive explosive armor. Oh wait they've done that.
>>61505465Go>>61505490It's not all cage armor. It's the type of metal the Russians almost are using which is covered in Rust as well. So you'll have chunks of aluminum and rust quit a bit as well. Cage armor can work use but it has its pluses and minuses. Russian cage armor is acounter productive
>>61505490This isn’t remotely true. Why do idiots feel the need to trip?
>>61505413>Way cheaperAnd you get much less per penny spent. Welcome to the real world, this shit has been figured out for literal centuries. Cottage industries are only relied upon by those too poor and backwards to build proper industrial setups for a very good reason.>the bad guysLMAO.>get wealthyGrowing reliance on cottage industries is a sign of IMPOVERISHMENT, retard.>muh regulations>muh degeneracyFuck off back to /pol/, you absolute clueless retard.
satellite images of Smolenks base came out, it had those copenets, didn't protect shit
>>61505413you niggers are in total war economyand ur getting BTFO by like 1%, 2% of western economies. literal hand-me-downswho are you trying to fool? your economy is a joke. you're a joke.
Refining copium
>>61505413cheaper != more efficient.
>>61505488This is a retarded, bad faith argument.
Will armed mobiks perform better?
>>61504997So what's stopping them from having a point drone take out the cage, 2nd one going through the hole the first one created?
>>61504997This looks like a good idea
>>61505004this installation is hardly safe to operate if there is an explosion 10 feet away from it
>>61506288>Christmas 1983whut?
>>61506215That Philip of Macedon bypassed Sparta?
>>61505004>>61506605Already failed btw
>>61505153If you want to do damage as a xXxL0nEw0LfxSn1pErxXx take your hypothetical .50 and go blast some electrical substations.
>>61506932That's a Ukrainian refinery
>>61507351full of ukranian POWs
>>61505137It's just retards hopped up on too much "common sense thinking" and rational actor nonsense to realize the Russians do stupid shit like this to mark off that they're doing at least SOMETHING on a checkbox somewhere.
>>61507405and Boris Johnson on a pear tree
>>61505355>I don't know if this obviously retarded thing works, but if it wasn't retarded and it worked it would work and you can't make fun of it.It's like this with all the stupid retarded faggotry the neo-commie pussians do in this fucking war. Fuck you.
>>61505402>it's a good ideaDoes it work? If you don't know if it works then how do you know its a good idea? Get fucked.>>61505413You're poor.
>>61506636anon you've just woken up from a coma, we're currently in year 50 of the two week SMO. Grab a Nork AK you're going back to the front
>>61506932Have you heard of clouds? That’s a shadow
>>61507685Only one BoJo? Guess the new emergency medevac teleporters must be working.
>>61505600Jesus fucking Christ, stop embarrassing yourself in public and replying to your own posts, you mildly retarded glavset rooster. You're like the gunk someone scraped off of their taint.
>>61507744Are you having an aneurysm?
>>61507772Look on google earth. There are clouds. That is shade. Prove otherwise
>>61507762That anon is different than me, the anon he was replying to.
>>61504997There's so many smoking accidents we're having air defense fun in Bryansk and reports of a new shipment of Newports in Crimeia arriving right now.https://nitter.poast.org/Osinttechnical/status/1784338674630476164#mhttps://nitter.poast.org/bayraktar_1love/status/1784329363439198337#m
>>61508767their internet defense force is everywhere rn including b0ts.better to not mention certain keywords.other threads are currently getting filled with digtial feces
>>61507803no u
Why not? Full cage
>>61505037At last I truly see
>>61504997>explosion turns the pieces of the net into shrapnelWhat are the oil tanks made of?
>termite bomblets>incendiary ammo>molotov>just send a bigger droneThey still have so much to learn.
>>61511287>>termite bombletsEven Russia wouldn't try a wooden oil tank.
>>61505133you see those little dots anon? that is a steel net
>>61505355>They are unironically super efficient with spending in this war. lel
that pic is from a tweet from 2022
>>61511834Feelings before facts remember.
>>61505488>Alexander, son of Phillip, and the Greeks (except the Lacedaemonians) dedicated these spoils, taken from the Persians who dwell in Asia
>>61505004It wouldn't protect it against a regular cessna, let alone one with a FAB-500 strapped to it (and especially not against a V-1 rocket)
>>61511317The Shoigun dislikes being underestimated...
>>61511834Frankly, that makes it worse.
>>61511317You filthy kohkhol tranny, I'm reporting to FSB for demoralizing and insinuating that Pure Natural RUSSIAN (Russian = Pure) Liquid Containers aren't up to the Patrioric Task Of Holding. You will be raped in siberia and family tortured xaxaxaxa )))))t. John Wayn from Texas oblast, home to independent warm water ports
>>61511834link it
>>61511834proofs?
>>61506636If I remember correctly, Serhii Sternenko and his community did a big fundraising drive around Christmas, and all the drones bought with that money were named "Christmas XXXX" on their OSD. For example, here's Christmas 1099.
>>61512707Puccians have brought retardation to new heights ever since this war began, I swear to the good Lord, even FAS shouldn't make people this stupid
>>61512707top kek, hadn't seen that one>>61512718FAS is kind of weird, it certainly can produce fucking morons, but there's a lot that just have the impulse control of an angry chimp
>>61512718>>61512775Their brains have had a train run on them starting with alcohol in their mothers womb to pollution from heavy industry and propaganda growing up, finally ending with a gangbang of all the factors I already mentioned, but with a veritable smörgåsbord of drugs joining in on the fun.
>>61511287>>termite bombletsI ask you, my friends: Has technology *finally* gone too far?
>>61512833That's one of the most flattering photos of Norilsk I've seen; the low resolution hiding all the details probably helps
>>61513135Bottom left actually looks sweet, but it also looks like hell to actually live there.
>>61513135I think that's the place from this video, kino as fuck in a fucked up way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW1nGHunAkc
>>61513135Reminder that Norilsk alone produces more sulphur dioxide emissions than the entirety of the USA, and over a full percentage of global emissions as a whole.It's effectively an ecological dead zone.
but have they actually TRIED trampolines?
>>61512833>>61513135Russian heavy industry towns are something else.
>>61504997I think this might stop grenades FPV but anything more than that and it can be a bit iffy. Also sustained attacks.If one of those tanks explodes, it will probably take out the other next to it too.
>>61505355>They are unironically super efficientThis has been the cope for being Russians being poor since time immemorial. They're not doing these things to save money, they're doing it because they don't have the money
>>61515991>mir.jpg>Horriblov is a mining town in Russia, the town is used to mine one of Russias most used commodity: depressive feelings aka russian sovl. While Russia is rich in natural occuring depressive feelings this mining sight is especially interesting for its pure form of depressive feelings and the ease to mine it at that spot.
>>61515991That hole looks like it's ripe to collapse at the edges
>>61516067>Decades of pollution has made it profitable to simply harvesr the topsoil for suicidal thoughts
>>61515991Really feels like these denizens wouldn't actually notice if a nuclear war happened. They'd just start dying a lot younger and write letters to the tsar begging for more vodka rations to help ease their suffering.
>>61516133>Really feels like these denizens wouldn't actually notice if a nuclear war happened.In their world, it already happened, and they live in the Mad Max timeline.
>>61516214What would happen if, one day, the trains just stopped coming?What are they gonna do? Fuck, thinking about this makes me want to write a short story
>>61513135>>61515991>>61512833It's like if someone said "How can we make Silent Hill worse?" and then went and actually did it.
>>61513135Mordor?No wonder they associated themself with the orcs.
>>61504997Welders are making bank in this war
>>61505004It won't work against the Cessna-sized drones designed to reach that far. For quadcopter-sized drones, an easy fix is to use command-detonated EFP warheads, which will punch right through the cage and into the storage tank.
>>61517887This is the real lesson hereDon't want to get drafted as drone fodder? Learn to weld.
>>61516372Drink, since no train = no work. And then once there is nothing more for them to drink they'll die from lack of alcohol. Because without vodka train, no vodka.
>>61505355>People literally volunteer their bakeriesHe knew, based Bubi
>>61505037Big links at it again
>>61505037>the only chainlink you need is a FENCE to keep your dumbass from walking out into the freeway. Sell it all, tonight, if you can.
>>61505401>>Russia is literally devolving into cottage industries to try and produce war material, Imperial Japan-style.>>This is supposed to be a good thing according to vatnik shills.>That's a big yikes.this is a good idea if you want to produce lots of low quality shit really quickly but the bills absolutely hammer. reminds me of post fall of france UK
with enough of these strung across you force the the drone to get stuck or elevate altitude. you can go much higher than picsteel wires strung across can slice off components of the drone
>>61515991Yakuts are really really dumb. Thats why kremlin genocides them so efficiently.There was like 60 years old yakut contract soldiers POW few days ago, who couldnt answer basic logic questions.His town also has no gas. The pipe that was supposed to supply them with gas suddenly turned to Mongolia and never turned back.
>>61521093based femboy link
>>61507803Wrong. It's aurora borealis
Haha imagine if we go back to kinetic ammo previous to hollow shapes...
>>61504997>It keeps evolving!a tank is a tank
>>61506015>2% of western economies.lol The last aid that past for the US to Ukraine is 3/10ths of 1% of one year of GDP...The joke that is Russia would be funny if they were not killing others.
>>61505378>the government is offering to pay so much for the labor.with what money? backed against what?
>>61505413>morale would be way too low to actually want to put your life on the line to fight for literal degeneracy.Should I post HIV, abortion, or divorce statistics?
>>61524723Sounds like Abos.
>>61531048Those are too well known, we need the murder, rape and drug use and alcoholism statistics.
The COPE CAGES THEY DO NOTHING!https://nitter.poast.org/Osinttechnical/status/1785520426300436851
>>61533455Fuck me, have they hit thirty of them yet? They must be past twenty refinery hits.
>>61533455Is it the same refinery as >>61504997 ?Gross if true.
>>61533455>Eyewitnesses heard characteristic roarsThe bear is waking up.
>>61504997what happens if they send two drones?
>>61505355>government compensates them heavenly for it.Hahahahahahahahahaha
>>61534059Relative to how much they currently make. Becoming a welder at a munitions factory has the potential to increase your income by several times if you're just a typical worker in Russia.
>>61504997Scaffolding guy here. They're supposed to do that from time to time anyways. It's anything but cheap, but if they do regular maintenance on it too... Also for anyone interested while I can't make out the type of scaffolding from OP's picture, I would bet $3000 it's all steel. Feel free to ask shit.
>>61504997Why dont they make a kit that can transport a jdam
>>61534125>Scaffolding guy hereScaffolding...guy...?
>>61535275Yeah I build scaffoldings. Day in day out nothing but scaffoldings. Stay in school kids.
>>61536089At least your profession is important and useful Anon.
>>61536089Thats cool dude. Keep it up.
>>61505004Even the ancient original PG-7V rocket (half the penetration of more modern ammo that actually gets widely used today) could go through an inch of steel when detonated 10 feet away from it. These tanks are definitely not using walls an inch thick so they are going to be useless without an entire car length of distance between the tank and the net/cope cage
