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Historically speaking, what went wrong?
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>>8783672
3 things: Extreme individualism, Biparty system, and to rich for there own good.

The political parties and american mindset if based on the value of individualism, it's almost horrifying, but it is the core value of the US made by the founding fathers the party don't differ that much because of it.
>Republican: you're free as an individual too thrive by working for big buisnness which are the ones our policy really help
>Democrats: you're groups divided racial/social/religion and should unite, but don't forget to be an unique individual

The biparty system just stops any real change, you either vote for the "lesser evil". It stops any possible grand scale reform and concensus. It stops new party and ideology to thrives. There is only two parties that are so similar it's laughable (but it is evolving more rapibly right now). The other effects of bipartism is if one party goes extreme, the other party either win, or goes extreme too. Historicly speaking the only """3rd""" party to thrive was the Teddy rooslvelt party, which made Wilson win, because the american political system when was created was a biparty logic, pro federal and pro state party, and it evolve in the shitshow it is now.

Being rich is cool, but being rich made you arrogant and of complacency (mostly post coldwar and can be extended to every western countries in different degrees).
US """intelectuals""" are now lecturing everybody in the world for such topic as Gender, Social Justice, The benefits of a extreme capitalist society and so on. They think their the best at anything, they can teach the world to be better (as it really means: like them). Because in the last 60 years nothing as really changed in the US, it's the same society as before, only the brand as moderatly changed.

This country should balkanize
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>>8783672
Doing English bidding in the world wars
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>>8783672
allow the good fellow lovecraft to explain.
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white people, specifically anglodescendants, germanodescendants, and jews
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>>8783863
>>8784009
fight fight you whitoid cucks

I’m going to post this every day until you remember it
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>>8781959
>>8783645
he wants his bike yo
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>you will never be a Mexican soldier venting your rage on surrendering muttoids after you and your bros got over the walls
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>>8783419
Mostly whites and Hispanics there. Incredible.
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>>8784561
It's San Antonio, literally 95% of the people who liver there are white and Hispanic. I get what you mean, though. Would be interesting to compare protest demographics to city demographics.
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>>8778801
>I’m going to post this every day until you remember it

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All others, but maybe the Germans, failed to produce works of equal value to Homer and others like him.
How is this?
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>>8785751
yeah.
the german epic only was written, or by the time printed, in one copy. so if a silly dog came or a falling man the best literature of germany would have been wholly lost.
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>>8785673
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>>8785872
100% Gaelic Phenotype.
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>>8785717
>>8785726
>Snorro Snurlsson
Yes, that's definitely what he was called
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Just jumped into this thread because the topic title is fucking retarded.

Ancient and Classical Greeks and Romans are obviously top tier. Doesn't matter what genre. There is nothing in comparison to them. How would you beat Homer? Plato? Ovid? Just imagine living in societies that have spent centuries and millenia studying how to convey their deepest thoughts on absolutely everything there is, from the smallest atom to naming our galaxies. How would you beat this?
The Greeks and Romans are locked safely in a box on the top shelf. Scotland and Iceland are literally absolute shit compared to these marvels of literature. What the fuck is wrong you?

On another note;
Ancient Egyptians, Babylonians, Indians have really need epics, crazy literal flow in how they put together their texts. I'm not talking about esoteric spiritual nonsense, I'm talking about the imagery that is created in your mind when you read this stuff. Beyond hobbies and preferences lies this objectively GOOD literature. And it's a thing of a looong goooone age. After the classical era, and after the renaissance, it started becoming more about the authors than the actual contents of the books. You can see this in the shit that was and still is produced. The ancient originals had first dibs on everything, so obviously they had already written great originals before people started wanting to make a name for themselves in such a massive consumerist scale.

Other than the ancients, that are superdetailed and specific and great, I guess everything else ends up in the shitbin or in the "I guess this is fine." categories. We find Little Women, Wuthering Heights, the books on Alice in Wonderland, some originals of the Grimms, etc. in that middle tier, closer to the "I could probably recommend these" tier.

Bukowski's poems are nice. You get like 2 or 3 images in your head every time you read one of them, and you can sit and think about those images for hours afterwards. That's good literature. The Bible too.

Is Léo Major the greatest Second World War soldier?
>liberated a town of 50 000 on population by himself
>single handedly captured 93 German soldiers at night by waking the commanding officer to force everyone else to surrender, three german soldiers aimed their rifles at Léo and Léo shot them dead
>once went out scouting and unexpectedly encountered 4 German elite SS soldiers and killed them, one of them threw a grenade injuring his left eye
>refused to get sent back home citing he only needed one eye to aim a gun
>refused the second highest british medal of honor because he thought his british general was incompetent
>in the battle of Normandie, he stole a German tank by himself and forced a German soldier to surrender, that German soldier had a secret communications code
>was also vital in the Korean war (which isn’t the second world war but he received a medal of honor for the Korean war)
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getting awarded the DCM but declining to accept it because he thought Monty was incompetent is top bantz
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>>8785774
>are they the most powerful people on the Earth?
when you manage to make them angry yes
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>>8785709
>singlehandedly
>on his own
>by himself
yeah these things truly happened
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>>8785937
You don't understand. His speed was superior.
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>greatest Second World War soldier
for me it's that american dude who officially served in red army after he escaped nazi prison

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>Once a woman (a pilot) refused to meet with me. She explained on the phone: “I can’t … I don’t want to remember. I spent three years at war … And for three years I didn’t feel myself a woman. My organism was dead. I had no periods, almost no woman’s desires. And I was beautiful … When my future husband proposed to me … that was already in Berlin, by the Reichstag … He said: ‘The war’s over. We’re still alive. We’re lucky. Let’s get married.’ I wanted to cry. To shout. To hit him! What do you mean, married? Now? In the midst of all this—married? In the midst of black soot and black bricks … Look at me … Look how I am! Begin by making me a woman: give me flowers, court me, say beautiful words. I want it so much! I wait for it! I almost hit him … I was about to … He had one cheek burned, purple, and I see: he understood everything, tears are running down that cheek. On the still-fresh scars … And I myself can’t believe I’m saying to him: ‘Yes, I’ll marry you.’
- The Unwomanly Face of War, Svetlana Alexievich

Thoughts on Women/Tomboys/(((Tsunderes))) in war? I feel like it's a very underappreciated thing in history, although, excusably, rare; doesn't it offer such a great view on what a woman is?
None of this bullshit modern "traditional" shit, and none of this strong independent woman who doesn't need no man -- it's some odd yet realistic mix, it feels right, no? She's strong yet wants to be held; she loves him yet wants to be recognized for her struggle...
I feel like we've strangled women into the definitions of male excellence in an attempt to "fix" society, but it feels all so dumb when you read the above. Why can't a woman fight with her own way? Why must she not want to be held? Why should we judge her by male standards? She survived, didn't she? It's not like women are the only contradictions: men want a special "one" woman to settle with, but have brains more wired ready and able for sex whenever it comes
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>>8785618
They're afraid she'll turn her sisters into sluts too
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>>8785922
Mikoto would never do that! If anything Misakas are far more perverse and lewd than their big sister.

The only thing you have to worry about with Tom boys is hugging them, loving them, hugging them, helping with their anxiety, hugging them, and dying at the same time so they never have to suffer without you or worry about such a fate. And hugging them.
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>>8783988
The Unwomanly Face of War, refer to the OP

>>8781262
>Our struggle is worse than that of these women.
You mean these same women who fought in WW2's Eastern Front and then had to return to daily life? Being a big fag doesn't mean you have to be a fucking faggot, you know
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>>8781176
Wtf is this thread, I thought it would be an interesting discussion about the psychological damage caused by war but as soon as OP mentioned "tsundere" my hopes were shattered and the replies are significantly worse.
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>>8786202
This is animeposting like I honestly have never seen. I wonder if it's just synchronized periods and symapthetic pregnancies on the weeb boards regularly.

That book has been on my list for a while though, I'm sure it's really interesting but I'd rather not associate it with whatever is going on here

I understand the strategic value of it to avoid giving France or Spain a foothold on the British Isles.
Yet it is kind of difficult to argue that you need to control the totality of the island to fend off an invasion.
Just take Dublin (a former Vikang settlement so not even the most important city for Irish nationalists) make it a stronghold to project power into any kind of enemy army. And then use they Royal Navy to destroy any kind of Armada.

You could have saved many head aches dealing with the constant rebellions and need to keep tens of thousands of soldiers at all times stationed there.
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>>8785488
Spain held southern Italy for 200 years and defend it from France and the Ottomans.
Those domains are almost double the size of Ireland.
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>>8785745
That it’s the same samefag who wanks off De Valera

Yes almost definitely.
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>>8785547
I wish the Germans had taken Britain. If it weren't for the Red Army and the Yanks you'd be fucked. Imagine your country without Pakis and Nogs and all other non natives.
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>>8785696
Not mention the millions of non whites too.
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>>8786115
Cope retard

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Do lives in general matter?

Obviously, there are certain going-ons which has brought this up, but the consequences and after effects of those will still take years to analyse.

But it's got me thinking: do lives generally matter? Because researching history for this many years have always pointed to the conclusion that: no, they don't. Because you're always used to a means to someone's end. Such as to fight someone's war, to gather resources for a larger entity, to work jobs someone with all the resources is providing, or maybe to work/fight for the collective good rather than the individual, &c.

It consistently appears that your life is basically a convenient catalyst for someone else's goals, and typically it's a someone else who has the resources and range to be able to do with other people's lives.
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>>8783007
We are animals that exist within nature. The cosmos or planet can kill us at any moment in the same way they have with every dominant species.

Humans are the only creatures on the planet that can convince themselves that they exist for a reason and therefore matter.

Human lives matter to other Humans for various reasons. Emotionally we rely on each other to reproduce and create the memories that distract us from the suffering of reality.

Humans lives matter to the systems created by humans because the system needs people to sustain itself and the people that live within it.

We are nothing more then apes, and apes together = strong.
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You are a sapient being. It follows that the other walking bags of flesh like yourself in this world are sapient unless you want to get into a longwinded debate about if there is 100% certain truth or if there is a small chance this is a solipsist universe and everyone else is a philosophical zombie.

You value your own sapience so it follows there is some value in others also that sets them apart from rocks and water, even if it is mere intellectual curiosity.

To me people are like house plants. Most people here want to torture and rape people for whatever reason. To me that would be like running around the apartment screaming and tipping over plant pots, slicing up cactuses to see the jelly innards, tearing off branches and chopping them up. I don't see the point. If I were Emperor of planet Earth I would not genocide aborigines or Andaman islanders, I'd let them sit in their plant pot and do their thing.
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In the United States the value of an individual life is about $9,000,000. I'd say that's some matter right there
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>>8783007
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>>8784949
As always the demiurge is an evil liar. The fact that you can still delude yourself by saying shit like this after the things you've done is so absurd and funny. You've already revealed the truth of your nature and this reality. You are the cause of suffering. You are the tormentor. You do not let people live their lives in peace.You take it a personal affront if people are happy. You feel gratified by destroying what people love.

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*tink* *tink* *tink*
*AHEM* Gentlemen, on this day, 67 years ago Her Majesty The Queen was coronated. As such its is befitting that I, an Englishman, should propose on this most auspicious of days, a toast fo all those patriots and sons of these fair lands;
TO HER MAJESTY QUEEN ELIZABETH THE SECOND, BY THE GRACE OF GOD, QUEEN OF ANTIGUA AND BARBUDA AND OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF THE BAHAMAS AND OF BARBADOS AND OF BELIZE AND CANADA AND GRENADA AND JAMAICA AND SAINT CHRISTOPHER AND NEVIS AND SAINT LUCIA AND SAINT VINCENT AND THE GRENADINES AND UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN IRELAND AND AUSTRALIA AND NEW ZEALAND AND PAPUA NEW GUINEA AND SOLOMON ISLANDS AND OF TUVALU, MOTHER OF ALL PEOPLE, ADMIRAL IN THE GREAT NAVY OF THE STATE OF NEBRASKA, QUEEN OF GIBRALTAR, DUKE OF NORMANDY, LORD OF MANN, FORMERLY TUI VITI; QUEEN CHIEF OF FIJI, KOTUKU, ROYAL LADY AND SOVEREIGN OF THE MOST NOBLE ORDER OF THE GARTER, SOVEREIGN OF THE IMPERIAL ORDER OF THE CROWN OF INDIA, SOVEREIGN OF THE MOST VENERABLE ORDER OF THE HOSPITAL OF ST JOHN OF JERUSALEM, CHIEF HUNTER OF THE ORDER OF THE BUFFALO HUNT, GRAND CROSS OF THE NATIONAL ORDER OF THE LEGION OF HONOUR, GRAND CROSS SPECIAL CLASS OF THE ORDER OF MERIT OF THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF GERMANY, GRAND COLLAR OF THE ORDER OF THE AZTEC EAGLE, FREEMAN OF THE WORSHIPFUL COMPANY OF DRAPERS, MEMBER OF INSTITUTION OF CIVIL ENGINEERS, FELLOW OF THE ROYAL COLLEGE OF SURGEONS OF ENGLAND AND THE ROYAL COLLEGE OF OBSTETRICIANS AND GYNAECOLOGISTS, BMUS, DCL, DMUS, LLD, LLD, HEAD OF THE COMMONWEALTH, DEFENDER OF THE FAITH. LONG MAY SHE REIGN!
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>>8785334
We all can
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>>8785340
No hun, she actually can. She's not one of these LARPagans.
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>ADMIRAL IN THE GREAT NAVY OF THE STATE OF NEBRASKA
Based
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>>8784844
>Queen introduced
>Queen stands up to make speech
>she clears her throat
>starts to speak:
>FUCK JANNIES
>sits back down
>concludes with God Save the Queen
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>>8785324
i like the queen she's nice
>>8786082
i like the jannie she's nice

Did Argentina ever have a shot at becoming a superpower?
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>>8784709
>far right
Hey now, Peron has communist supporters too.
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>>8785223
bruh...
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>>8785223
They support his stances from before he was a dictator
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>>8785042
Do you think I'm an ancap or something? I think UBI would be great. Welfare is not a problem in itself. What is is using it for votes and stripping them away if employed, forcing most of the economy to go into the black market both to allow those on welfare to keep it while employed and to avoid incredibly high taxes which are completely misused.

The reason why Peron fucked up Argentina is because he taught them to have a kneejerk reaction to anyone that doesn't like how the gov spends his money, branding them as imperialist far righters.
>>it doesn't suit your 300 year old economic system
>>your

Keep wearing blindfolds and the peronists will keep wasting economic booms to prove they're better than the imperialist while the peso freefalls. While selling onions to China of all places.
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>>8785901
You sound globohomo bro, i agree with your first paragraph like any sane person and i don't vote current year peronists, but not a single alternative translates into employment or real wealth, submitting to the international division of labour only breeds call center jobs, every reaction to left wing populism translates into submission and inflation, if we had "true" peronism while on the s*y boom it would have been great. China is the economic partner of most of the world tho, in a sense what we call left here is just participating in global economics just as the right, the difference is the master.

truth
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HITLER era VASCO
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>>8785325
>>Irish copy the French tricolour to irritate the Anglos
>>Basques copy the Union Jack to irritate the Spaniards
source?
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>>8785265
Third positions but not Nazi; quote
>Iam affiliated with the Basque Nationalist Party, founded by Sabino Arana Goiri. The PNV has for a motto: Jaungoikua gizarra, God and the ancient laws. In naming God in the first word, we understand that the party wishes to be religious, and in the phraseology of the left and the right, ridicu lous phraseology, we have a well defined position: We are Catholics, virile and upright, in a human Catholicism, not a bigoted sentimentality. For us, in this phraseology to which I have alluded, if you are on the right, you are opposed to the legitimate progress of democracy, since it opposes absolute power. If that is what being on the right means, then we are leftists. If being on the right means defending any kind of regime, as long as it is identified with religion, and against the absolute separation of powers of church and state then we are leftists. And if by being rightist, it is understood that in social matters we oppose progress for the working class, if that is what is meant by being on the right, then we are leftists. But, on the other hand, if to be a leftist means we are going to be against family, against the holy principles of the Catholic Church, whose rules we observe, then in this phrase ology which I find ridiculous, we are right-wingers.
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>>8785333
triples lo confirman
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>>8785333
>vegetarian manlet
No fucking way.

Non-racialist fascism; based or still cringe?
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>>8784536
Based. Fuck commies.
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>>8784539
>hurr Franco was fascist
every time
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Based. The only discrimination that should be made would be on a cultural basis, especially against G*rmanoids.
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>>8785097
>economic model directly copied from Italian corporatism (INI, OSE etc)
>parliament based on the Grand Council of Fascism, with MPs ("procuradores") not representing political parties but different sectors of society such as industrialists, army officers and the Church
>hardcore nationalism and anti-communism
>unequivocal criticism of liberalism and democratic bickering
>concept of a "national revolution" opposed to socialism and liberalism, in which all classes would cooperate within the integral structure of the state
>literal self-reference as a "totalitarian state"
>literally denounced by the UN as a fascist regime after WW2
You may argue that Franco was an opportunistic general instead of a committed fascist, but his dictatorship was clearly a fascist dictatorship. The only characteristic of Francoism that set it apart from other fascist movements was the role of the Church. The Church had immense power in Francoist Spain, and could never be controlled by the state party (FET-JONS). Unlike in totalitarian states where the party in power controls absolutely everything including religion, FET-JONS only had partial control of the Spanish state, and often had to negotiate with Church and army authorities. It was still a fascist state. Just because Franco purged the "revolutionary" fascists who wanted a non-Marxist revolution, and kept the "traditionalist" reactionaries, giving his regime a reactionary rather than revolutionary character, doesn't mean it wasn't a fascist state.
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>>8784573
>Mussolini
>tried to care
Benito very clearly used the country as just a toy.

What are your thoughts on this book?
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>>8785989
It's very good in terms of gathering facts. I find that it's weakest when Shirer is offering his opinion or analysis as to how Germany got to the then current point.
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The parts which he was personally around for, like the Munich Conference, are a pretty good primary source I'd say. My main disagreement would be his attempts at historical analysis like trying to draw a straight line from Luther to Hitler.
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>>8786005
>>8786006
I’m currently reading this section, it’s partly why I made this thread. His brief overview of Nietzsche in particular struck me as a little dubious
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You know he actually toned down his musings about the servile nature of Germans quite a lot if you compare it to Berlin Diary.

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why has french and german philosophy traditionally been indifferent or even straight out hostile to math and science while british philosophy has greatly respected them and sought to learn from them?
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>>8785928
The greatest mathematicians were german or french.

The brits were empiricists and did some philosophy of science and science but little else. The continentals on the other hand did a lot of different things
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>>8785928
The French have been pushing for atheism literally since the 16th century, so it makes sense they would be opposed to logic and logical structures. Consider that deconstructionism came of a Frenchman.
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analyticism isn't philosophy any more than sociology is a science
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>>8785949
>The greatest mathematicians were german or french.
this
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>>8785966
I don't see how one follows the other

what claims did poland have on western belarus and ukraine?
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>>8785215
>muh intermariumeme
>>>/x/
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>>8785215
that dark green nigga looks like godzilla lmao
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>>8784864
Weak for Belarus, and some cities in the west for Ukraine that had Polish majority in the past, why? There are no official claims or desire for revision of borders although it is pretty funny how some Ukrainians call the period of Polish governance over Lvov "occupadion" I don't think I ever saw another example of calling the period when another nation lived, had majority and governed in your city and occupation if it wasn't actually occupied by a foreign power.
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>>8785107
Is this ironic or is there some actual one-sided obsession here?
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bump

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American here who started reading about the Eastern Front in World War 2 to investigate if the Russians really were more responsible for kicking Hitler's ass than we are.

What kind of a name is Semyon Timoshenko? It looks like his parents wanted to be funny naming their kid after semen and he joined the communist armed forces just to make himself look tough
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>>8785037
I can´t tell if this joke or another wonder of American mind.
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>>8785037
I have to believe you’re trolling. Even a teenage mutt can’t be this fucking stupid.
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>>8785037
lmao
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>>8784989
>if the Russians really were more responsible for kicking Hitler's ass than we are
they are
>What kind of a name is Semyon Timoshenko
a mongolian one
>>8785037
based bait thread
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>>8784989
>wait till you hear about semen hitler


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