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Does a bear shit in the woods?
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>>1981204
>Why do you keep asking me that, holmes? I don't know.
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>>1981204
Does your mom shit all over my mouth?
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>>1981204
No they are uncomfortable taking a shit in the woods. They usually go to the toilet before they leave their house.
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>>1981204
Yes and also in the river
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>>1981204
Do niggers nig?

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>hate myself
>try hiking in blue mountains because exercise and being in nature good for you
>notice some pretty scenes, but constant bad thoughts when walking because no distractions
>constantly think of jumping over a railing and killing myself
haha hiking is great
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>>1979278
>notice some pretty scenes, but constant bad thoughts when walking because no distractions
It's pretty lame to say, but just try to be in the moment. Note how the air feels, how the sun looks, the way the sunlight is dappled through the trees, the sounds, the birds.
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>>1979278

I have no idea how hiking got the reputation of being a cure-all for depression. In some cases it’s just the opposite. Hiking allows you time alone with your thoughts, and for some people that’s probably the worst thing you could give them.
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>>1979278
Do a flip faggot.
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>>1979278
use your self hatred to push yourself to doing extreme or dangerous acts such as urban climbing, extreme or dirty swimming, sleeping rough, freight riding, go stealing, make some drugs, paint a bunch of graffiti just push yourself doing the stuff that other people will say is stupid, or that you are going to die, and eventually you will find yourself enjoying only what will most likely lead to your mortality, it works for me gave me some purpose and before I've made real suicide attempts with deadly poisons that only caused chronic organ damage, didn't stop me from doin some other crazy shit had some fun seen some shit

>>1979281
you need to learn to enjoy insanity

>>1979342
bad thoughts be good thoughts stop being no fun
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I wasn't kidding about the drugs either the 200mg DMT dose was definitely a turning point in my life made me realize much more than I could ever have realized without the DMT it's no comparison.

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I recently received a metal detector and I'm in Northern California where my in-laws own some land in gold country, but I've only found rusty horseshoe nails so far. Any anons out there with experience or tips for finding something more interesting? Feel free to show off your findings/stories.
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>>1985330
that's about $400 in one shovel.
worth more than gold.
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>>1985330
I didn't spend enough time out there, did camp on the road to mt evans once, seemed like a good place to pan but hesitant to get out the sluice in case im claim jumping. Have you tried the Cache Creek placer area? Any good, is there even a real creek?
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>>1985790
Not mt evans I meant elbert, haven't lived there in 4 yrs now
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>>1985790
The road up to Elbert is on Halfmoon Creek. There's not much gold there until you get way up to the top of the road at the Mt. Champion gold mine. Plenty of gold in the creek right below the mine, but it's all private property.

Yeah, Cache Creek has good gold and I've seen some 1-3 oz nuggets come out of there. It's hard to detect because the soil is almost pure iron. There's a tiny creek, and there's active mining going on there. Last time I went it was a fee site for $5 per day. Does the GPAA own it now? There's a shitload of gold but not easy to get.
up above Cache Creek heading up into Lost Canyon is also a decent area to pan and detect gold. Also lots of old cabins, almost a whole town up there back in the 1800's. At the top of the road is the Columbine Gold Mine, also actively being worked.
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>>1986131
Thanks good info hope to make it back someday, gpaa doesn't own it, I think it's blm... it was listed in the gpaa book as a public area to search for gold. Tried to get my bro n law to go there when they were in the area recently. And yes I was talking about halfmoon creek rd.

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Since everything here seems to be about the woods or other similar environments, I thought I would start a thread on desert /out/ings. Just got back from a solo backpacking trip in the Superstitions in Arizona. Anyone got protips or advice that I should be aware of, or any other great places to backpack in AZ? Or just share desert pictures.
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Waiting for summer so all the fucking snowbirds leave and I can hike in peace
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Where do I hang my hammock?
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>>1985817
Near the top of the hike it's very narrow. Their's a chain to hold on to, but the ground is at an angle so you have to be careful where you step. I could see someone who is afraid of heights freaking out up there.
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how does a state as beautiful and diverse as california only host the most gayest and depraved libshits imaginable
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>>1985532
>mocks carrying a gun
You are no son of Texas.

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One thing I know is that you constantly lose things and get gear stolen. Hammocks are worthless for long term and sleeping bags are also no good. If you have gear you can't keep on you at all times than expect you will one day lose it.
Homeless in an urban environment really ask for multiple pairs of socks. Lightweight and worth their weight in gold to ensure you can keep on your feet without them rotting off. Chewing on sticks are your best friend for dental hygiene.
Clothes, clothes and spare clothes is what matters. Keep your equipment simple and plain so its not desirable for theft
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>>1985427
I could see someone being homeless for a few months involuntarily. Surprisingly, even if there are resources and you want to avail yourself of them demand usually outstrips supply and you will have to wait your turn for; job placement, shelter beds, transitional housing, medical assistance. I think a better discussion would be how to steer yourself out of the ditch before you get stuck there.
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>>1985889
Buy a house or three
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>>1983918
>driven off
weird way to spell "overdose" but ok
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>>1985427
My buddy Ryan out on these streets got evicted from his apartment freezing his ass off it wasn't his choice
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>>1985437
sounds fun I enjoy diseases

I need to clear some brush on some new property. It's a mix of Arundo, some other kind of weak-ass bamboo, woody weeds, and some saplings. It's not a lot of stuff so I don't want to bother renting a power trimmer or something like that. I'd rather acquire a good machete or something similar. Suggestions?
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>>1985352
Don't bother with OTC machetes. Their handles are crap, they ship unsharpened, and they just aren't very good overall. You aren't going to find a good machete in the $25 dollar range.

Hell, asking here is probably a mistake. These backyard warriors spend more time on 4Chan than actually using anything in the field.
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>>1985316
That's a chain of nothing but rakers. What in the fuck?
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>>1985298
A cane knife is made to be used while machetes are made to larp.
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>>1985778
What are you on? I've cut through a 2x4 with a $3 machete from Harbor Freight! I wouldn't recommend it, but it's possible to get a fucking tool that's good enough to clear out brush for less than $25. You can get a good enough machete at Home Depot. Your life doesn't need to depend on it if you're just clearing out some land.
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>>1985298
Find a farmer nearby and let the goats/sheep do their thing

Evening /out/. /pol/ here looking for help from you minorities to plan a three day wkend in Sedona az
I have fishing and hiking stuff if it’s dry. Also have canoe and kayak if lakes are good to fish. Should it be wet I have x-country skiing gear I can borrow from a buddy on the way down.
Any help is appreciated also while I’m here any advice on accommodations and restaurants would be helpful.
Thanks in advance

anyone here own a telescope or stargaze on the regular? I was thinking about getting into it but don't know where to start
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>>1983530
Looking into the Milky Way with a small scope and looking into a sea of stars.
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>>1983530
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>>1983352
For me? It’s Sky Guide. It also helps me for my sun line calculations
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>>1980831
Get a pair of good binoculars. Nothing fancy, just something along the lines of 7x50. That's honestly what you're going to be using most often.
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>>1981665
post some pics of planets!!!!!!!!!!

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Aside from walking, what is the most based method for exploring the outdoors?

For me, it's the motorcycle.
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>>1969632
>>1969803
Most "adv bikes" are really just a bastard creation between a street bike and a touring bike. You might as well get a more comfortable dedicated touring bike which you will still be able to take on gravel and grass. Taking an adv bike on an actual trail is going to suck balls and you will get stuck.
>>1986012
I think the worst part about ebikes right now for touring is keeping them charged/fueled. If you are set on getting a touring e bike I would wait a few more years for tech to catch up and for better bikes to come out.
>>1986069
problems I can see thus far are that the tires are going to be way too small to go over anything. If a 8 in diameter log is fallen in front of you it will still present a large obstacle. Although you could probably dismount and lift it over the tree lol. I'm also skeptical if it will have enough torque to carry a fully grown man and his bag over a hill.

>>1969605
this is mine. r8, h8 I don't care. I did a few months of research and I always came back to the conclusion that a KLR 650 would be the best bike for me. It's still a work in progress as I get more comfortable taking it off-road and on trails.
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>>1969704
based, this or kayaking
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>>1969713
horses can eat and drink almost anywhere, unlike motorized transportation which requires specific oil/fuel and tools to maintain
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>>1986105
the 212cc motors have a pretty good amount of torque. You'd be surprised how much you have to lean forward when you crank the throttle to keep the front wheel down. They're torquey, just don't have much power. And yeah you can pick one up no problem if you're not a manlet.
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>>1986111
It's probably fun to mess around on but you will undoubtedly get better performance in pretty much every metric besides portability out of a shitty 250cc dirt bike from the 1980s. There are certainly reasons why they arent popular

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Why did you fall for the 'waterproof' hydrostatic head meme, /out/?
Pertex and pile is the superior outer layer.
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>>1985576
It breathes way better. Most winter outings I don't even bother packing my hardshell, just a 10oz stretch woven softshell that sheds snow and blocks wind.
>>1985542
I'd absolutely try one if I had a montane pro deal. As is, I tend to mostly use a lightweight grid fleece and a stretch woven softshell.
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I like my Buffalo but honestly I just never find myself naturally going for it when I'm prepping for a hike or climb. It doesn't have enough pockets and a hood is extra (why I've absolutely no clue as you can't go /out/ in winter in this country without needing one). I think maybe it's a little big for me which doesn't help, but I'm more likely to use it just under my hardshell in really cold conditions than as an outer layer on its own.
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>>1984781
look at those childbearing hips
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>>1984781
>the recognized method of measuring a fabrics degree of water impermeability is a meme

Please explain.
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>>1985576
You don’t always need to put on your Hardshell. Try doing a grueling hike in a Hardshell, and you will understand.

Interested in getting a hunting dog. Mainly interested in grouse and rabbits. What dogs do you guys have? Is training them something possible to do on your own for a first timer?
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You’re asking for two different dogs. If you want something to get grouse get a pointer. English Pointer like me, Setters, Brittany, German Pointers are all good choices. Frankly I scare up enough rabbits just beating brush that I don’t worry about it. You want something strictly for rabbits get a beagle.
German Shorthairs and Wirehairs are versatile and Ive had some that pointed rabbits and some that just chased them. Problem is the ones that chased them are a shit load faster than a beagle so they tend to blow your shot. Most of my bird dogs that show interest in rabbits lose it quickly in favor of birds.

If I were you I would get a German Wirehair bred up in the north woods. I would expect a smart, compact built dog, that was versatile, and tougher than boot leather. Drathaars are the peak of versatility and generally are the most fur oriented.
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>>1983638
a skinwalker desu
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>>1983641
doberman?
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Pitbull
Best dog for hunting white bois
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>>1983638
You’re looking for a versatile dog. Go to a NAVHDA event. You will get to meet many different breeds that will fill the role you’re looking for.

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I really want to become a drifter, but I feel like I'm too much of a coward. Traveling from place to place, even if food and shelter is scarce a hard to come buy, sounds like an adventure and sounds like a kind of life I'd love to have.

I just feel like such a coward cause I haven't done it already. I feel like maybe I'm too comfortable with my current life (even though I hate it I'm still "comfortable" in a sense that I could continue hating this life forever and not snap) to leave it so easily.

So do any of y'all got advice for if I ever actually go out hobo-style and can I get some encouragement to do so?
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>>1984593
What I'm really trying to get across is the fragility of your life.
You can be fine for months until something fucks you up, then you're in trouble overnight.
You're probably a nice person, most people are nice- everything goes fine until you run into someone who's not nice.

They destroy your clothes when they are drying, they throw stones at your tent and put holes in it, they won't sell you essential goods like food and water, they call the police any just lie about things, they threaten you- usually you will never know why.
>>1984657
Why are you even on /out/?
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>>1980736
its amazing just be aware that everyone who is a fag wants to have sex with you, they will stalk you until you do something about it
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>>1980793
Nobody is picking up hitchhikers these days lol
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>>1985342
You said you were a bum and to ask you anything. Why get butthurt when I ask you why you are a bum?

Laziness? Drugs? Chomo? Can't remember?
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>>1981380
I was painting graffiti under a bridge and a bum snuck off with my backpack I had to find it 100m away all stuff strewn about he only stole my map and my compass, none of my food nor my sleeping bag

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Hey /out/ my mum works for the UK government administering COVID-19 testing kits. She stands outside in the cold the entire day, and has got really sick recently because of the cold. She wears lots of layers (Thermals, Fleece and Coat) but she could only afford really cheap stuff.

I plan to get her some thermals (Leggings and Bottoms) a thermal beanie and a nice fleece. She can't wear gloves, regulation is that they have to wear latex gloves on bare skin. I thought this would be the best place to ask and thanks for your suggestions.
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>>1979764
/pol/ been permabanning or rangebanning tons of people. thats why im here, but trying not to shit things up.
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Heattech stuff from Uniqlo is cheap and good quality
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>>1980081
>>1980105
He's obviously just repeating something he's heard without thinking about it like a retard.
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>>1979686
you don’t get sick from being cold numbnuts
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>>1986076
Having a reduced core temperature can nerf your immune system, which in turn makes you more susceptible to infectious diseases. Besides, the cold itself can cause symptoms like a runny nose and a sore throat. Those tend to go away fairly quickly once you're out of the cold, though.

What are /out/'s favorite knots for each purpose:
>Lashing gear to packs
>Doesn't slip under tension, unties easy
>Adjustable and holds up under tension

Pic related is marlinspike hitch, super fast to tie and easy as fuck to undo. Unparalleled for tying down to stakes imo
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>>1982300
i attached an infatable boat from walmart to my backpack and hiked it out like 10 miles and then aired it up, threw my backpack in it and paddled it out down the river before I hit a downed tree underwater and it poked a hole in the bottom of my boat
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Different knots, not that many, I don't remember the names. Bushcraft usa forums lesson section is where I learned them.
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>>1981601
Greetings brother
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>>1982476
fuck you, why does this make sense
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I know an fuckton of knots/hitches since my life literally depends on them. Outside of work I half hitch, clove hitch, bowline and alpine butterfly basically everything.

>Lashing gear to packs
If I were to do this I'd probably clove or double half hitch.
>Doesn't slip under tension, unties easy
bowline
>Adjustable and holds up under tension
blake's hitch

I'm in Canada (ON) and its pretty cold right now. I'm also not in the best shape (I'm 5'9 and 340 lbs, been working on it) and haven't been camping since I was a kid. Even though it sounds hard, lately the idea od camping sounds great. My question is, should I even bother?
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>>1984936
Would not recommend this. While you should consider fasting for extended periods of time, you should consider doing shorter periods of fasting (3-4 days at a time followed by a healthy refeed) coupled with increased exercise so you don't dig yourself into a metabolic grave and completely slow it down (thus making you gain the weight back when you start eating again). Plus being in ketosis for long periods of time is shit for your body.

If you actually do 72-96 hour fasts consistently for several months you can lose ridiculous amounts of weight. Can even stretch it to one big meal a week if you feel that's a better routine. Check out Cole Robinson for more information since you should really be drinking salt water (potassium, sodium, magnesium, maybe calcium) to replace your electrolytes.

Good luck fatty, you can make it brah.
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>>1985808
>>1985808
Should amend this: the advice to go into a sauna while fasting is good. As far as my understanding goes it's just a bad idea to go on one long extended fast when you could instead build better willpower and combat cravings/food addiction by going on shorter, more frequent fasts. Make sure to be on top of hydration, but sauna time and steady low intensity exercise couples very well with multi-day fasts.
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>>1979179

Fat boy
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>>1982725
Hammocks get considerably colder than tents. 30 degrees won’t be enough
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>>1979179
Your blubber will keep u warm




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