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Places you like to swim
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Florida is tricky when you dont live on the coast. there are some springs with great visibility and temperature but theyre small. the one i usually go to is probably 70m across. what kind of stuff do you guys use for open water, anything? what is a good bouy, and do you need anything else?
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>>1975285
I'm 21 and I don't know how to swim.
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>>1982985
Post hand
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>>1983085
No, I'm not one of them anon...
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>>1983085
i refuse to believe thats a thing pretty sure people that cant swim are just stupid or grew up far from water

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How the hell do you get a job at a national park without being some college cuck or magically already having experience in it?

I've looked in to fire lookout and am considering it, but it's only seasonal and alot of the towers aren't even the kind you get to live in. There's also the problem that I live in PA, the eastern half.

Should I just say fuck it and go for it, moving away for a summer and leave my job? I'm a welder btw, going insane doing it. Need your guys' advice.
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Apply for smaller parks/national monuments to pad your resume. They’re usually short staffed so you end up doing a lot of random shit.
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>>1985034
Fire and EMS do that
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>>1985029
Only for non whites
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>college cuck
>have experience

So you want a job for which you lack both credentials and experience? What makes you think you’re entitled to it?
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>>1985034
i did see a colorado state parks job that was a necropsy assistant last year so maybe dealing with dead animals is up your alley?

What happened to all the Dick Proenneke commune threads we used to have here?
Is the dream dead?
Will I have to go to college and get a crappy job now?
I was planning on growing old with you guys in the woods.
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>>1985092
>scheme built on trying to avoid work falls apart due to chronic laziness
shocking.

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Why bother with a sleeping bag, tarp, tent or extensive shelter when you can just wear and carry the ECWCS and just pluck your fat ass anywhere like a polar bear and sleep?
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>>1984017
I did it last night, the hobo simulator. I slept on a pallet and a piece of scrap carpentry laid on top of it behind a dumpster. I only had a little pillow for my head to lay on, and the ground was slightly sloped. It was 0C outside. I wore the following pieces of clothing:

-Warm hat with faux fur that folds over my eyes. This kept my head warm throughout the night and made things pitch black.
-Polysester neck warmer garment, this worked very good, only my nose was exposed.

As a base layer I was wearing a polyster longjohns and a thin 100% merino wool shirt. On top of that a home stitched thick 100% sheeps wool armless jacket, and on top of that a 100% wool norwegian sweater with another thin 100% wool armless jacket on top of that.
Over my longjohns I had a cotton pyjama pants, and a cotton-wool mix czech military winter pants, with a padded polyster dutch army pants liner on top of that. I had a small, thin and very light 4 feet by 4 feet fleece blanket to sleep under. I was wearing 4 layers of cotton socks. On 1 hand I jad a thick glove that was very warm and on the other hand a thinner knitted glove.

It worked well. I actually fell asleep but woke up in the middle of the night, but then I didn't sleep so good after. I was warm but not totally toasty. If I had worn 1 more layer of socks, and one extra sweater to cover my arms, I would've been quite toasty.

Now that's a lot of clothing, but I like it this setup lot. Even with everthing on I still feel quite flexible to walk. And I dind't have to worry about my sleeping bag getting dirty or destroyed, I could just plop my ass somewhere and sleep. I just need to carry a big backpack so I can store clothes that I don't need during the day inside. Layering and delayering
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>>1983777
the zippers on the level 7 are prone to breaking so you have to be kind of delicate with them and wearing that many layers really pissed me off so i'd wear level 2, level 3 and then skip everything else and go straight to 7
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>>1984390
niggers didnt evolve for subzero temps
you dont need level 1
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>>1983777
I guess only the rain. Every western movie you see everyone is camping out under the stars, on the ground, without tents
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>>1984614
thanks for sharing anon

Climbing General #15

A place to talk about climbing in any aspect (trad, sport, bouldering, aid, alpine, etc).

Rock Climbing is a dangerous sport that can cause loss of life, limb, eyesight, or sanity.

Useful Info:
https://pastebin.com/dhTMzCqJ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ854rwQZUI
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>>1984327
>Lads, do you think they are going to do it? Will they conquer K2?
I fucken hope so. Based nepali chads
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>>1984327
Fingers crossed! I certainly hope so. Would be amazing!
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>>1984327
Thr real question is how many will die this year
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>11 meters
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>>1984627
one so far, press F to show respect

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Go to https://innawoods.net/, show us your usual gear for /out/ adventures.

Pic halfway related it's from the site but I made it for a thread on /k/
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>>1977888
Based /g/entooman
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enough for a days worth of travels
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t. britbong who can only have a bow and arrow (shown here as crossbow)
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>>1976902
How did I do?
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Minimalist

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Why is this stuff considered to be such amazing outdoor apparel? Isn't it all still made in China?
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>>1983655
OR is overrated. Total boomer brand too - products are ugly (which isn't my main grip btw). I've yet to not have a significant problem with a product I've bought from them.
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>>1984940
Fuck you dog, I'm inbetween sizes for that shit. Medium is too short and large fits like a trash bag. Got a Norrona down jacket instead, but still eventually need something to synthetic to replace my old columbia insulator.

Norrona definitely fits better, I think Patagonia is made to fit stocky mexicans.
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>>1985005
I had that same problem with some of the north face jackets I tried on: go up a size and it looks like a deflated wavy arm guy you see at a car dealership, but go down a size and it doesn't even fit you right. The other good sized jacket brands (at least the ones I've had) are stuff like Columbia who make some nice fitting rain shells, and Marmot. The faux down jackets don't feel like they'd insulate you but they surprisingly can hold in a lot of heat.
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>>1985026
north face actually fits me decently.
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>>1984907
>>1984910
Arc'teryx has fashion lines now. Also fashion =/= money.

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SCUBA = Self-Contained Underwater Breathing Apparatus

Share your most memorable dives here, good and bad.
Post pictures, videos, and memes.
Brag about certs, experience, and achievements.
Discuss/recommend equipment, techniques, and otherwise share your love for diving in general,
Divers of all levels welcome, as well as people thinking about diving.

Guide:
https://github.com/ScubaAnon/scuba-diving-general/blob/master/sdg.md
Feel free to contribute to it either directly or indirectly through the thread.
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>>1982449
/med/ seems to agree. I won't.
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>>1982449
It's a funny hobby. You're supposed to relax and use as little energy as possible, but it's still a whole workout. How many other activities/hobbies can say the same?
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>>1982463
won't do it or won't agree?
text/the internet can be strange sometimes
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>>1982588
Won't be diving while fasting. I don't like increasing my chances of dying.
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>>1975000
checked

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http://www.tdm-military.com/military-vehicles/tank/star-660-food-truck/ Thinking about buying this, getting it imported, converting it and living in it. Thoughts?
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>>1981325
I sometimes see one of those around my town.
Red truck, didn't see it in 2020, but saw it a few times in 2018 and 2019.
I have no idea how the guy justifies driving that thing around town to himself.
Well...if I had the money for one, for maintenance and for the fuel...I know how I would justify it. But that's beside the point.
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>>1982288
>Volvo Puppy
I co-own of one of these cuties! Love the focus on simplicity and access in the construction.
We crammed 13 people into it two years ago.
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>>1980304
buy a commercial truck, military stuff is notoriously unreliable, plus parts are easier to get the more common the machine is
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Get a unimog. Or one of the Mitsubishi trucks. I see a lot of those.
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>>1980304
check out https://amw.com.pl/pl

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So today it snowed a lot here and I decided to go /out/.
Snow is kinda rare here so I don't have much experience.
I wore a waterproof shell, but didn't have any waterproof pants and for gloves I wore my biking gloves which are part leather and part synthetic and they got wet pretty quickly, just like my pants.
It wasn't a big deal since I had long johns underneath and I only was out for a few hours, but for a longer trip I realised I need some more waterproof gear, namely pants and gloves (and a shell for my backpack which got wet as well).
So what do you guys wear, what can you recommend?
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>>1983132
less than $15 at walmart plus you don't look like a fag
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SHELTER HALVE PONCHO. PUP TENT.
ALICE PACK LARGE WOOL BLANKET.
MESS KIT AND FIRESTEEL.
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>>1983735
based and ALICEpackpilled
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Was it raining or really warm or something? Here in VT when I go out in winter I'm happy in softshell top and bottoms with appropriate layers under and rarely use my GTX pro shell unless I'm above treeline or it's actively snowing. Never had my softshell pants wet out in the cold.
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>>1983132
15€ Decathlon rain pants. Haven't tested in actual rain but they stop wind and snow. I also biked in them today.
They make a great combo with the 10€ fleece tights also from Decathlon.

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Any scary encounters ?

I saw a lot of monkeys in Algeria. They're cool and seem used to people.
In Europe i've often seen deer and boars (which have always scared the shit out of me) and i've seen elk like twice. I've never been to places that have bears and wolves though.
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>>1981401
Saw a burrowing owl hunt some birds at night with amazing clarity. Also saw a hare the same night.

Very common for me to see monkeys too.

I think the scariest one wasn't that /out/, but in my ex-gf's city there was a pack of feral dogs that once killed and ate an entire fucking horse. We saw them once, the dogs barked at us but didn't attack.

Funnily enough I've never seen a live snake in the wild, except for a tiny harmless one, once. People here always talk about how they saw or killed a snake the other day, but I never see them alive.

Maybe I'm too noisy
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Bison, elk, moose, black and brown bear, wild horses, and some rare birds when my uncle is there to show me them. Saw bald eagles too out in Northern California but they were young. One of the most uncommon I've seen though is the San Francisco garter snake. Really pretty and stunning to see in person. Pic related, not one I took but to give you an idea.
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>>1981401
deer , rabbits and coyotes.
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15ft Great White Shark 80ft deep while SCUBA diving off Santa Cruz Island in CA.
It ended up stalking another diver for a while then disappeared

I’m more scared of backcountry bears DESU.
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Lots of wolves, a few black bears, and the occasional moose. I want to see a wolverine one of these days.

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Planning on buying a 2021 Kodiak travel trailer to live in and take across the country.

Any of you have experience with Dutchmen travel trailers? Are they any good?

Also any advice for living in one long term?

Cheers - A.
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>>1984527
You'll probably have more luck getting info for your mobile mansion from a Grey Nomad forum.

When you do buy one, make sure it has an extra large satellite dish so you don't miss out on watching Neighbours in the evening.
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>>1984562
Kek. Duly noted.

Checking out some grey nomad sites.
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>>1984557
Excess is why I want a travel trailer in the first place. Ideally I'd be able to live in it as one would a house.
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>>1984527
To live in I think an air stream (even a used one) would be better. Dry rot is a camper's worst nightmare. I'm not an expert though. I'm sure plenty of people live in those styles just fine. I would seek the advice of people that you are sure live in their campers long term.
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>>1984527
ive lived out of a different brand travel trailer also newish model, and my advice is that you just have to be extra careful with everything because they are built flimsy to minimize weight. clean and check regularly, dont be lazy about closing/opening things, do everything slow and right.

otherwise it was great and i have no complaints. great way to live in /out/ areas where it is nearly impossible to find other housing like in the middle of nowhere, and the rv parks in these places usually have laundry and wifi and all that nowadays.

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"move to the mountains", I thought

"It's gonna be cool, you'll be able to wander around, hunt and fish every time you feel like it", I thought
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>>1984425
anon that's way too much chuva
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>>1984598
There wouldn't be rain (there would be snow) in the forecast if it were 23F, you retard.
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>>1984600
Thanks alot for the info! I hope you make it to see Utah sometime rainforest mountain anon, I'll try my best to see your country.
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>>1984530
Looks like some thunderstorms. In the summer where I live that is literally everyday but for three months. Afternoon shower. It's not a big deal.
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>>1984633
Those are the figures for the nearby town, up here the weather is about 5C cooler. During the summer temperatures are really enjoyable. Winter is very mild for American/Canadian standards, it seldom gets to freezing temps (though it is common to have frost)

>>1984773
Where do you live? Sounds like most places I've lived so far.

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Get in the Ocean /out/
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Remember, if picture points towards your right hand, it was taken on the atlantic shore. If it points towards your left hand, the. It was taken on the pacific shore. Can be helpful in order to find these «secret spots»
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>>1982793

bout three fiddy

the people who invented kayaks kicked around in the arctic circle with kayaks built of bones and animal skins. Now, they were inculcated from birth and had almost nothing else to do with their time, so don't expect your results to tally with theirs - but there is no particular reason that you could not build a skin-on-frame sea kayak and do whatever you want to do successfully.
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>>1983010
Shut up faggot i bet you dont go out if it's over 5ft
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>>1982305
Do more swimming practice you are not mighty enough to be in the ocean more training is needed
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>>1965204
Vortex Springs near Ponce de Leon Florida. Neat place to go diving.

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Where in Europe can I get a cosy house with a piece of land? I just want to grow some veggies and make gulyás in the open air aaaaaa
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>>1983985
But what is there for work/income there? How would you pay taxes?
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>>1983853
You have great nature in most countries, there are just too many people living in most of Europe, pic related. So it depends on what you seek. For a medium sized country, NZ has among the best biomes but a rather boring fauna.
I would argue that Chile is one of the top 10 countries but a lot of the population wants to become another corrupt socialist shithole, I wonder how it will look like in 20 years.
You will have great outdoors but hunting with a gun is very difficult - you will limit yourself to a bow (which would be fine for me). Costa Rica is very keen on protecting it's national park, so hunting is very limited either.
If you want to have everything legally and have all the benefits of a functional state then try to get into USA/CA/AUS/NZ.
In other poorer, semi-corrupt countries hunting would work, even if it's not allowed.
Either way all the western nations are cucked, there is no general escape.
It is much easier to escape the decline in rural communities in North America than in the heavily urbanised Europe where the rural areas are often just some kind of suburb.
You would be able to find a local job in most countries, but getting one that offers you at least a east European living standard will be difficult in most places.
If you want a tropical climate and play it easy then try the oversea areas, such as French Polynesia, French Guyana, etc.
I wouldn't settle somewhere where I'm not interested in the local culture and cannot speak their language.
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>>1984007
Nature is indeed nice in most of Europe and France is great the sceneries and wild camping, it's a hassle to hunt though and as you said too many people.
I don't speak Spanish so Latino countries won't work. I could learn biçit I don't think it's worth it.
USA/CA/AUS/NZ are indeed the only choices it seems, I'll research those, thanks.
The French Islands look cool but well, wouldn't want to live with the islanders for too long and I'll probably never feel like I belong even if I did.
I was also thinking South Africa could have been nice, in the white parts, but well, I'm a few decades too late for that.
Good point as well about the standard of living. I don't really expect an European urbanite standard but there's always a minimum required to live somewhat comfortably (e.g. not paycheck to paycheck and not with fear of being sick because you're to poor to afford health care), maybe the diploma and abroad experience will come in handy.
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>>1984049
In case of spanish speaking countries I would only do it for Southern Chile, which is kind of a mirror to NZ. Immigration for Europeans is surprisingly easy, you just need a monthly income of 1k$ a month. However well or at least ok paying jobs are rare and you won't get them as a foreigner without connections. The country is not cheap either, so expect to have 50k$ for the first two years where you might be working very little but exploring where you want to settle and then 200-300k$ on top for the house/property.
About getting in the ex anglo colonies: the easy way is the marriage even though it isn't without obstacles. Besides that:
>US is very difficult to get in - the system isn't made to get in legally the easy way and it has a luck factor. (Apply for a job, competing against millions, getting the job, and then having the company help you getting a green card and these company-sponsored greencards are low on supply compared to the demand, so good luck.
>Canada has several ways of getting in and you can plan that. One with subbranches is the federal way, collecting points. You need to pass a threshold, it's changing and used to be rather low a few years ago: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/express-entry/submit-profile/rounds-invitations.html
It can be planned, takes usually less than 6 months for their decision and it's rather transparent. The other way in Canada is the way via Quebec, you don't have to live there and apparently they have often accepted people (chinese?) who couldn't speak french but also excluded phd native French from France (I guess there was more about it, I don't know). Either way it's not transparent and takes about 18 months last time I checked.
AUS and NZ have a similar difficult point system but it is for most more difficult to pass the threshold when I checked it.
There are greater native French communities in the French oversea areas, but I agree with you.
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>>1984716
(cont.) In my experience the easiest way to have good alternatives to having a well paying job that is flexible and can be taken to other countries. That way you will have many options. Becoming one of these 3months boot camp web devs isn't the worst way desu.




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