>be me this morning>be alone>be grouse hunting in northern minnesota, dark cloudy and misting rain>be roughly 3 miles into woods>hear some noise in the distance>pause>start hearing a very low, gutteral howl followed by yelping and higher pitched howls>face goes numb, hair on back of my neck stands up, hearts beating like crazy, piss shit and cum in my pants all at the same time>'holy fuck what do I do'>tfw howling feels like it's getting louder, won't stop>just sitting there standing in the middle of this shitty atv trail thinking about being eaten alive by a bunch of rabid wolves>slowly start walking back>howling stopped>hour later and I return to my car aliveI know wolves rarely ever attack humans but holy fuck was this scary. Such an eerie feeling being stuck on a trail in the middle of nowhere with wolves nearby. Any of you ever had a similar experience? My only regret was not filming or recording it. I was in such a state of shock that I didn't even think to.
>>2649817lmao
>>2649774>The OG wild dogs were closer to dingos then to wolves.But were are talking about domesticated dogs. The genetic evidence that domesticated dogs came from wolves is very substantial.https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/dogs-may-have-evolved-from-two-different-wolf-populations-180980350/
>>2649648go be stupid back on reddit.
>>2649427If there's bulls in the field, that's when I tend to get the fuck out. If it's just cows though and they try to fuck with you, I just chimp out and swing shit and they tend not to come to close. Like if I'm working with my horses and I've got a rope in my hand I'll just swing it around and whip it toward the cows while screaming nonsense at them. It's a great way to de-stress because you can shout anything to the cows and it still works. Nothing better than releasing your retarded side by calling a herd of cows a bunch of bovine niggers while swinging a rope.
>>2648625a bunch of coyotes having an orgy
Any company in present year making military/outdoor woolen jackets? I'm sick and tired of plastic gear but it seems like all you can get nowadays is just high fashion, sweaters, and accessories. For whatever reason seems like noone is making gabardine or similar outerwear woolen fabrics anymore.
>>2647471>>2647479it's funny how i ripped that quote verbatim from a peer reviewed study anticipating this very response this is what happens when you attempt to move goal posts with someone who is much smarter than you!>>2647471horses eat food, not non renewable distilled petroleum, very big difference you peabrain, but i agree with the bicycles, not sold on motorcycles
>>2647573>as compared to other forms of leadPeople literally lost IQ points because someone thought putting lead into gas was a good idea. Doesn't mean elemental lead on the surface and in the soil is harmless.>horses eat foodYes, massive amounts of food sourced either from pastures that are wholly insufficient for everyone to have his personal horse graze upon, or farmland that cuts into ecologically valuable land.>non renewable distilled petroleumDumbass doesn't know about biofuels, or electric energy apparently.>not sold on motorcyclesIt's really easy. Energy can be supplied and machinery operated in an environmentally friendly manner, but only to a really limited degree. The smaller your motorized vehicle is, the less energy it requires and the easier it is to build, operate and dispose of cleanly. How big that can be for the general populace is basically unclear because we're not serious about it yet, but it would almost certainly suffice to get everyone an electric bicycle or low power motorbike. Maybe even a miniature car.
>>2647579>People literally lost IQ points because someone thought putting lead into gas was a good ideaand how is this an argument against what i said? i'm anti-car, but most importantly anti petroleum... we're talking about bullets here dude >Yes, massive amounts of food sourced either from pastures i grow an estimated 10 million calories per acre of corn, you're clearly an urbanite, an acre can produce quite a lot of food especially in monoculture
>>26473711. Fibers, like you said will begin to shed worse and worse typically after 1st wash. Yes you will inevitably consume some. 2. Have you ever heard of off-gassing? Synthetic fibers give off fumes. Think about the foul (some people consider it pleasant) sour odor that some polyester shirts give off. Especially if they are recycled frankenstein plastic.
so nobody has wool fabric made at home on a loom
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Some crocus bulbs I dug up in the spring, chucked in a pot and forgot about just bloomedalso total squirrel death
I've saved up a shitton of tea grounds and they've been sitting for over a year now accumulating about a 5gallon bucketHow much should I mix it with soil?I'm planting stuff on planters btw
Do dragonfruit grow true to seed? I just got a red and a yellow one at the store, would like to give it a go if they do
>>2650880>60 liter box I had laying around just collecting dust, only drilled a few holes for ventilation.Well that's all you need, so no problems there.>About 60~70% humidityThat's perfectly fine then, just hard to judge based on the pictures.>When adding leaves how decomposed they should be?When you have a new bin it'll save time to take more decomposed leaves to get the whole microbiome going, but after that just add them whenever.>Should I be careful to not add too much coffee grounds?Yes, but not nearly as careful as people online would make you believe. Coffee is acidic, so people online freak out, but really most of that acidity is lost in the brewing process, so the grounds are barely acidic. I'd say add as much as you want and if you ever run into ph issues (which I don't), then reduce it maybe. Just remember that they are greens, so they should be balanced with appropriate amounts of browns. >How do I know when to add food scraps and how much is too much?When they are gone, generally, but a bit leftover is fine usually too (assuming it's slow food like pumpkin, rather than fast food like avocado). Just add enough that next time you'll look after them it's gone and no more.>Will they consume partially composted wood chips?No idea, my assumption is yes, but very very slowly. >I don't need drainage if I manage moisture correctly, right?Even if you don't you don't really need it. Worst case you get some acidic liquid in the bottom, as long as enough bedding is present the worms will avoid that area until it's gone. In general the worms will tell you quite quickly if something is wrong with the bin (worms in weird places or trying to escape are good indicator something's wrong) all you need to do is watch them. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
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My dream is to live above the tree line full year, hiking there is one thing but living there? How does one prepare? How do you survive the winter? What do you even do apart from cooking and reading?
>>2647550>a torturous foot trail as your primary means of food supplyski trail
>>2648216Not envious of packing a year's worth of cans up that mountain
>>2648220This. Winter huts are provisioned by helicopter.
>>2647786>Your mucosal layer and blood oxygenation will require years of living up there before they settle in.Not really, no. But it's a good larp tho.
>>2648216>no bugsahahahahaha alpine areas are skeeter heaven
>>2650612In conclusion, you have no idea what you're talking about.
>>2647898>muh whypipo dun season they stay inside and never go /out/This is why you will never achieve anything, Dayquandroniggeriuscaptcha K4 MAGA
>>2647898>>2650739
>>2650740>>2650739>>2647898
>>2650523Sounds like a great way to ruin a nice policy for everyone, anon. Now you're thinking like a boomer.
What kind of pants do you use while /out/? What materials? What kind of belt? I've never worn anything other than light cargo pants (nylon/polyester) because I've never given a shit about pants while out, but decided I should try to invest in something decent for once.
>>2615669I'm all for cheap jeans and wear them every day.But /out/ I usually like to have more pockets.So I roll with $20 cargo pants.But then again all I do are day hikes and at most ~15 km.
>>2630755>DecathlonSteppe 300. Really like them for the ~20€ they cost. Reasonably thick, nice pockets, comfy enough.But I'm a cheap fuck who never spent more than 30€ on a pair of pants.>>2633195>Is Decathlon really that shitty quality?For the price the quality is mostly pretty good, problem is when people expect 200€ quality out of 20€ items.For example their cheapest tent is fucking great for an entry level tent and someone's first few /out/ings, unless they are going hardcore (rain/wind/etc.). But obviously even a NatureHike from AliExpress is going to be better.
>>2616231Based
>>2618413that explains it because we now know there is no duality between jews and america
>>2618036>style over substance fag strikes again
What is the greatest /out/ store and why is it Sheels?
>>2650701>not REI unless it’s something specific like CramponsYou seem to be confused, sir. REI sells clothes.
>>2650705My bad I’ve only been there a couple times. They are noguns so I’m not invested in the lore.
>>2650705Rei sells tampons wtf are you talking about they're just vegan and black lives matter friendly
>>2650703>MidWest Mountaineering lol what an oxymoron
>>2650702>I knew I was wrong, but I didn't want to be right, because that would be autisticYes. The point was humor. You missed the one-word throwaway joke and are now predictably spamming unfunny normalfag memes from reddit and facebook.
Whats 20 acres look like? Grandparents passed last year and I just found out last week they left 40 acres in eastern Tennessee to me and my brother to split. No information on whats on the land and just curious if its big enough to do anything with.
>>2646511Kinda surprising how small 22 acres is.
Id be stoked with 15 acres, not huge but pretty usefull. If it's in a place where land is expensive, it could be sold and you could buy a 150 acre /out/ block elsewhere
>>2647351I find the size of empty paddocks deceptive. In a city that land would fit, what, 50 or 60 quarter-acre house blocks plus roads? You'd take a minute or two to walk from end to end.My parents have a ten acre block and it's surprising how big it is when you break it up with fencing and trees. There's enough room for 20 or 30 cattle (they rent most of it to a local farmer), plus fruit trees, a house and garden, outbuildings and sheds, windbreaks, etc.
>>2646414>40 Acres in east TNWhatever you do, don't sell it to developers. They've been shitting up east TN to make housing developments for coasties.
>>2648660You can do a lot with 10 or 20 acres. Friend of mine built a small house on 5 acres and was mostly self sufficient for food. huge. You can't be self-sufficient for wire wood over the long term, for example. And you can't go for a nice long walk in just 10 acres.
Wondering what I should take if I wanna live outdoors while constantly moving with no home (bare with me, I'm autistic). Some stuff I've thought of packing:BackpackMulti knifeTooth brush/floss3 pairs of each clothingWinter gearSleeping BagSun glassesLaptopBackup drivesPhoneWalletLunch BagWater bottleTowelComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2649899It's amazing how this exact same thread gets made virtually daily. All you fags have fantasies about going>le vagabondwhy are you fags bumping this shit? herbs
>>2650111Checked. Dude it's nuts. I just ignore 90% of the posts on this board. There are like 5 people here who are actually normal and enjoy the outdoors the way I do. Things /out/ requires of me to not be a larper: >build a log cabin with a fully functioning fireplace>walk around the woods in full tac gear with an ar-15>stealth camp all the time>become a 13er> when /out/ take about gear every time to never returnThreads I've recently read on /out/ >how to walk correctly >how to use stairs Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2649899>thinking of bringing a tent, but dunno how portable those can be>brings laptopAnon, you can get tents which weigh just as much as a laptop. Also, I wouldn't recommend bringing a laptop. You will have very little use for it and unlike a phone, it's going to be a lot harder to keep it waterproofed. Not to mention, once the battery runs out then realistically you're going to need to find somewhere to charge it because you'll want to save any power banks you have for your phone in case of emergencies.Like everyone else has suggested, the best thing you can do is go camping for a weekend. Work out from there what you use and don't use. One thing that doesn't get mentioned a lot though is to have a decent amount of money saved. If you are essentially homeless by choice then there are going to be times where it's freezing cold, you're wet and even your waterproof clothes have basically soaked through and you haven't showered in ages and you feel like shit. At times like that you're going to want/need somewhere to stay and sort yourself out and dry all your stuff. If you don't have money, you can't pay for a hotel for a night or two.
>>2649975>How are you going to protect yourself from wildlife?Non-issue.
>>2650175>Threads I've recently read on /out/First 2 are troll threads.I dunno why tobacco falls onto /out/ but they have their containment thread and stick to it.Car camping is /out/ related.
What's the best US state to move and start a new life there and why? What are the states with the best /out/ scene?
>>2646476And the 10% state income tax and the price of land goes up retardedly if you put a house on it causing your property tax to be like 10k a year minimum. I talked to a guy on here who lives in a camper because if he laid a foundation on his land for any building he wouldn't be able to afford the property tax after the appraisal.
>>2646384I'm fairly sure neither of those are true. Also about 32,000 californians moved to Kentucky in 2020 based on estimates. The number of people moving in to CA from elsewhere is almost even with those leaving however, resulting in a slow drain, but because of how high the population is in CA this means it can bleed an average of 400-700k people every year without much issue (the 2010-2020 average was over 600k people leaving CA every year to every state in the country).
>>2649871*3,200 californiansI missed one zero. If the 10 year rate is near constant however this would still mean around 30k californians moved to KY in the last 10 years or so. Some years the estimate is as high as 10k, others as low as 1k.
>>2649872In 2020 60,000 of them fled to Arizona. California refugees are not welcome.
>>2650695Yeah, Trump should've put a shipping container wall around the CA borders when he had a chance. You don't want to know the 10 year migration estimates of californians to states like AZ, TX, OR or NV or even to ID.
Finally did a backpacking trip in the Sipsey Wilderness which is in Bankhead National Forest, Alabama. It was me and my buddy. Talked to my grandpa about the trip beforehand, he said in the 50s he used to go Turkey hunting and Deer hunting all over those hills and canyons that are now the Sipsey. Back then there were several roads that went all through the wilderness area, some of which are now horse trails like the 208 and 224. Picrel is the route we took and I wanted to share some about our experience.The hike in was pleasant, started at the Gum Pond trailhead and quickly got off on the 207 heading south down into the Braziel Canyon. That was a remarkable place with very striking bluffs and a peculiar feeling inside. While hiking down the 207 somehow we got on the other side of the river (trail is on the east side of river but we were hiking on west side, must have been old trail that isn't in use). Eventually we realized and crossed the river and there was the maintained defined trail. We had been wading through brush and thought no one must hike this place. Started at 1:30pm and by 5:30pm we made it to the yellow X and pitched our camp. I was tarp camping for the first time after using a hammock for years. Best night of sleep I've gotten innawoods yet. We rose early and scarfed down some oatmeal and coffee and started on our 'deathmarch'. We hiked through the canyon and then westward onto the 209 following the Sipsey Fork, which was a beautiful route with many scenic bluffs and waterfalls which were barely dripping because it is so dry.
>>2650060Maybe a little, but he isn't totally wrong. When things hit rock bottom a ton of people will just leave. Most city people will leave. Immigrants will find greener pastures. The bumkins will probably stick it out though.
Been all over that area on the few days I get off work, mostly day trips. How many ticks you get on you?I get covered in those bastards there.
>>2650367My grandpa has 200 acres in the area, I picked off about 20 ticks per day.
>>2650051I already have my cave picked out. 30 ft cliff heading down to it and another 30ft cliff past that. only one way in or out.
>>2650367>>2650537I don't know how or why but for the past 3 or 4 years a tick won't touch me. I used to get them all the time playing in the woods growing up. I've been on a couple dozen backpacking trips over the past few years, have slept on the ground, waded through brush (like I just did in Sipsey), sat on the ground for extended periods, etc. I get eaten alive by chiggers, and I did from this Sipsey trip, upwards of a hundred chigger bites. I can search far and wide on my body and find no ticks. What the hell? I'm glad for it but it is very weird.
So what your experiences with the Big Agnes Fly Creek HV UL 2? I hear both good and bad things. The wind issue is the most pressing issue. I heard it can demolish this tent and others say it's strong enough. So dunno if I should get this tent. Thoughts?
>>2650413>Big Agnes Fly Creek HV UL 2What a mouthful for a name lolI can’t find what denier they use for the pieces, but I assume the fly is 10d to get their weight, which is too light a nylon for my liking.The only two person tent I’m really interested in right not is the tarp tent double rainbow in the new ultra fabric
>>2650413Only women use tents
I have the tigerwall ul1 and it's a real nice piece of kit, but I kind of wish I just got some cheap Chinese hiking pole tent because I get anxious setting it up cuz it's so expensive. Big Agnes makes good shit
>>2650413I’ve owned it for three years. It’s a fine tent. Way to cramped for two people unless you’re /out with you significant other. Also it’s only semi-freestanding so if you’re camping on a very hard surface (above tree line) you’ll have to use rocks to guy out the bottom of the tent. Tl:dr I’d get the (discontinued) 3 person (if you can still find it) for more room and it’s fully freestanding
Järvenpää poster here again. Here’s the Marttiini I lost along with the Russell Green River Sheep Skinner. I reshaped the handle on the RGR to be actually comfortable. Both knives were under $50
Any floridanons know if they would be around this time of year? According to google they should be visible year round, even though I know manatee season there doesn't peak until the winter drives them inland. Would I be able to see some at this time of year?
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>>2647297I've been at sea for 400 days and the cabin boy's asshole prolapsed at day 173, you can't keep me from sticking my dick in it.
>>2647301This is a pretty cool spot, you will also lilely see sharks amongst the Manatees.In Crystal River I've seen a hundred all at once huddled together in the lagoon. Very neat sight but this was in February. OP I think you should wait if possible or go to the Power Plant if you are only in Florida right now
I dont think they will be. I was paddle boarding around Crystal River last year around this time and didnt see any. Still a neat place to check out
>>2647295they go further up into the rivers and springs when it gets cold because the water temperature remains consistent in thereit's too early, wait until water temps drop
There's a common idea in art and fiction of a "deep dark forest" that's so densely packed with trees that it's dark even during the day That makes little sense given that all the flora in a forest needs the sun in order to live so the idea is not very realistic, but what's the most dense and darkest you've seen a forest get? Any you've been to or know about
>>2650377https://youtu.be/woDotbt9iMU?si=ATOxmlW9HkUkCTSg
>>2634704One of the highest deforestation rates in the modern world is third world, like sub saharan africa. It's not industry, it's thirdies cutting down forests to make charcoal to cook with.
>>2650503>One of the
>>2631803>>2650625>ywn be a black metal guy and go yell at trees in the dark forest
I've decided that I love minecraft so much because there is no autonomy in the modern world. I am sick of this bullshit. I want to have minecraft IRL.But in real life you can't just punch down trees without going to federal prison, so in a way we are forced to remain playing minecraft.If you go fishing? federal prisonIf you build a home? federal prisonHunting? federal prisonand even if you manage to get it all following the rules they will become upset that you are different and more free and they will monitor you and raid you and gun you in your sleepI like going hiking with my family, but I am depressed when I get back home because it was never mine, I have nothing. When I grew garlic in our apartment window I felt eudaemonia. Like life finally had meaning.But I am trapped her in this shitty apartment with this shitty retail job, and I am effectively a slave.I'm 22 and I feel like my life is over, like I have not learned to be a man. I think that minecraft IRL will help me become a man.Maybe I should leave the US entirely
>>2649840We won't live to see Mad Max IRL, but we will live to see The Great Depression 2: Rise of the Orwellian State. Societal collapse is a very slow process and we are currently experiencing it. Its important to make sure that you have the option to leave whenever you want, and have nothing holding you back. Continue working, and spend every weekend preparing and training.There will be consequences if you decide to re-integrate with society. Your car's registration will be out of date, employers will ask you why you were unemployed for a year, you won't have a house, etc.You should be able to quit your job, cancel all your payments, and cut all ties you have with anybody in a couple of hours. If you want to be extra safe, let everybody know how much you love the outdoors and tell people you'll be camping in some other state. They'll never find you and they'll think your a missing 411 victim. Treat your life like its a prison escape. Make sure nobody will come after you.When the time comes to GTFO, be prepared.
>>2649840>But working to buy land nowadays will take you at least 20 years and as you have said several times in this threadWe know. But you're gonna be 20 years older someday anyway. If I have to suffer this shitty world I'll at least have what I want later rather than never.
>>2649855>If you go to college, you have to consider whether something will happen in the next 4 years that will fuck you over. The Corona pandemic probably caused tons of college students to fail their classes. What if next year the goberment instituted a draft? Every young person who has long-term plans is fucked. (if a draft is instituted just cut off one of your ring fingers and say it traumatized you so much you can't join the military lol)This has always been true. You're not taking action because you are afraid of what ifs. Ask me how I know.
>>2632929He looks okay. He just has an unaesthetic frame lol
>>2632648we should be friends
