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Hey ya'll,
I remembered this one time walking a couple hours before sunrise in Galicia, scary shit happened, I'll post under to not make this long.

Post your creepiest moments in the woods/outdoors.
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>crew spiked out in aspen Grove
>always hear stick banging against tree around bedtime or past 12am
>1-2-3-4 then banging would stop for the same amount of time
>1-2-3-4 then stop
>woke up with sleep paralysis
>tent wall is by my face
>I can move right side
>realize something big is outside my tent laying on me
>I'm pinned to the ground
>grab knife
>fall asleep as I wait for it to tear into me
>wake up and step outside to get on the floor
>everyone do the dinosaur
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women are fucking useless emotional wrecks.
Oh shit, what's up Ohio anons? Beaumont was 10/10 in Cubs.
>someone actually went through the effort to make this
>Now, why would this department go through the trouble to do this? What would bother the government enough to spend money on something like that?
Maybe human trafficking is involved in a significant portion of disappearances in the wilderness.

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How much do I have to spend to get started fishing?
>t. third worlder with no money
>a piece of line
>a hook
>some bait
>or make some trap out of literal sticks
>a flashlight and a spear

i guess you can't pull a boat out of your ass but you can definitely catch a feed..
You can probably get by with like 50 bucks total if you are willing to go second hand. There is a surprising amount of decent to good fishing gear on flea markets where people sell grandpas fishing stuff after his death and have no idea how much it's worth, nor do they care.
If you are in a third world country, this may be a bit different, as I would assume the poorer the people on average, the more likely they are to do research before selling used equipment.
What you need is: A rod, a reel (start with a spinning reel probably), some line (mono is probably fine as a beginner), hooks, bait, some leaders, swivels, swimmers and some weights. It depends on what and where you plan on fishing too. You can get by with some very cheap, borderline free / DIY spinners and bait, or expensive stuff.
Depending on local laws, you will need a licence/permit, a fishhook remover (I like to use a hemostat), knife and a tool to "stun" the fish, as well as a suitable net. Some jurastictions require you to carry a tool to keep the fish's mouth open while removing the hook as well.
Fishing isn't expensive, but it can quickly get expensive, if you want to.
I'd say for new shit, a begginers kit may cost you somewhere between 75-200 bucks (includes everything). You can maybe stay lower if you really try, but that'll be hard without sacrificing performance too much.
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You can, in actual fact, do as our ancestors did and tie line to a long (>10 ft.) stick (preferably tough and flexible, and tapering toward the the end), attach a line (can be woven/furled of animal or even human hair) to the end of the pole, tie a hook to the line, add bait, and actually catch fish.

Sometimes I fish in brush so thick that I have no choice but to hold my line in one hand and toss the fly/bait with the other, because waving even the shortest pole will instantly get tangled or caught. This is called hand fishing or fishing by hand.

The thing is, even though we've invented fancy gearboxes attached to spools and carbon-fiber rods, hand/pole fishing with just a line and a hook not only still work, but in some situations, work very well.

The most accomplished fly fishermen of all time, the shokuryoshi (commercial tenkara fishermen in Japan), were very poor but caught hundreds of trout per day with a long stick, horsehair, a branch with a net woven onto it to net the fish, and a woven basket (or a sharp Y-shaped stick) to collect their catches.

Being poor will not stop you from fishing. In fact, it's a traditionally poor activity.
People fished for 100,000 years with no money.
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What was the dumbest thing you did or the worst series of decisions you made while /out/? Any cool scars?

Recent one:
>be me, exactly 12 hours ago
>hot tenting in the mountains
>with an ax
>during a thunderstorm
>drop acid
>story ends as expected
>unable to process pain, but the red juice coming from my hand and visible bone tells me that this has escaped my wherewithal to deal with by myself.
>pull up all my shit in a bundle, haul ass off the mountain to car
>pile shit into car, drive 13 miles to nearest store with a landline
>fog rolls in: suddenly ghosts

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Decided to climb a mountain covered in snow and ice while wearing summer running shoes with tread worn smooth and without any crampons, hiking poles, or an ice ax. In retrospect I don't know why I decided it was a good idea. But it went surprisingly smoothly right up until I slipped and caught my full weight on one hand, causing my wrist to make a disconcerting POP noise. So I had to carefully slide down the rest of the way with one hand. It hurt like heck and bruised my whole forearm but somehow I avoided any long term damage. Beginners luck I guess?
>I was biking in Algeria
Any interesting stories from your trip? I've always been fascinated by the idea of biking in the Sahara

Ahh you'll be fine, ǵ̵̗ő̷̼ ̵͈͝ą̵̐l̶̡̏ỏ̴̦ṉ̴̈e̵̖̒, I wouldn't worry about it.
> Be me, 21 years old with no knowledge of high mountain, skiing or ice climbing.
> Hike up a mountain in Switzerland in summer.
> Big glacier on top, sees a man on the glacier, getting close to the top. The man was, as you know, adequately geared.
> I was not adequately geared, only hiking shoes.
> Decides to go to the top like said guy because it looks cool and I'm fit.
> Walkupwards.jpg
> Close to the top I look back because it's getting hard and steep. Put my foot in the air, drop it, start sliding on the side of the glacier, unable to stop.
> Realise the cracks near me could be deep holes, I slide and STILL CANNOT STOP!
> Fuck me.
> Manage, by sheer luck, to get out of the glacier.
> Realise how dumb and lucky I was. Decide to always get to know the place I will be moving in before I move in from now on.
No scar but I was lucky.
At least he's listened. Every time I've had a dude get close to heatstroke, getting dizzy and slurring his words, being generally unreasonable, they always insist that they're fine and don't want to let you help them. I'm like faggot I'm not carrying you back down the mountain, so you best listen or I'll leave you here and call the cops to find you when I get home.

of course, I probably would carry them down the mountain, but they don't need to know that.
I brought non-hiking friends on a long hike. I've never seen so many minor things go so incredibly wrong, but I should've known we were set for fail when one of the fags had packed a massive bluetoothspeaker, and not even a pocketknife.

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Personally, I love using matches. Somehting about striking a match feels just right, or getting a fire going with just one.
Other than that i like to use vaseline coated cotton balls and the ferro rod that came with my knife
Any recommendations for buying ferrocerium rods in Europe? I get that they all are more or less the same.
Also, I need some way to insulate it, since I live near the sea.
Turns out the one I was eyeing at varusteleka is already the right one.
>why do you think the middle east is a desert?
They overfarmed and ended up salting their land
Probably because that piece of land used to be under an ocean in the distant past

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Is farming sheep profitable in the southern states? I hear there's not really a market for it, which is sad.
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>Most of the animals you eat
I'm vegetarian, I only approve of hunting
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Why are Wales and New Zealand the only places on earth it's socially acceptable to marry a sheep? What links them?
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>What links them?

NZ used to fuck about 20 sheep per person.. Only recently have we fallen to the Welsh standard of 6 or 7
>Live in south
>Know some ppl with sheep

Would not recommend. The climate isn't favorable and they'll get stickers and beggar's lice all throughout their wool. Goats are more common and hardy to the climate and are more available and sought after market-wise than sheep. Hispanics are also very fond of goat.
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You can dip sheep for lice flies etc. Old school method was literally a trench full of tobacco water that you made them run through. Then of course now there are more specific chemicals and methods like running them through an enclosure with water jets. And of course oral treatments for parasites in the gut. And shearing.. I don't know a whole lot about the climate in the american south but there are different breeds for different climates. Sheep take a bit of looking after

How did wheat/rice, some of the most tedious and agonizing crops to harvest and process in a pre-industrial society, somehow become the biggest staple crop hundreds of civilizations were built on? Is it masochism?
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>Compared to beans, potatoes, cabbage
Potatoes are 80% water and last for weeks before rotting, months if stored in ideal (cool and dry) conditions. Wheat grain is somewhere around 18% water, dried to around 12%, and can be stored in a silo or cellar for 3-5+ years.

Water is heavy, so farming food that is like 80%+ water is inefficient. Also, and partly because of this, the caloric content of wheat and rice is huge compared to the foodstuffs you named.

Now you understand completely why wheat and rice were farmed instead of tubers, legumes, and leafy vegetables.
>Goes on. Instantly
This is the most ignorant thing I have ever read that just proves you have never grown a plant in your life. I still have potatoes in my pantry from last fucking summer, they preserve for ages naturally. Like at least 2 seasons even in bad conditions, easily through the winter.
Beans dry naturally on the plant as it turns to fall. If you've ever seen dried beans in a store, they didn't use a machine to do that. The plant does that in nature to preserve it's seeds for the next year.
Poisonous potatoes are easily distinguishable to the point where fucking monkeys and mice could easily learn Wich potatoes not to eat. "Because parts of the plant you don't eat are poisonous" is not a reason for people not to eat a plant.

You fucking redditors feel the need to make up a psudointilectual explination for fucking everything to sound smart instead of just saying nothing because you don't know.

Op, the answer to your question is that you are simply wrong in your assumption. root vegetables have been staple foods that took the place of grains in many cultures, mostly south American and African. The reason Western and Eastern cultures didn't eat starchy roots was because there were none that were native to those countries. Onions beans are the only bean that produces enough quantity of food to have become a major staple food
St Anythonys Fire used to be endemic (ergot poisoning) until civilization switched from rye to wheat. Could be a factor…
Depending on variety and farming practices used wheat and rice actually use almost the same average amount of irrigation water per lb of final product, some varieties of and techniques used for wheat can use much less than rice and vice versa. Wheat is actually hardier than rice however, as it can grow in higher latitudes easier. Barley is even hardier and is often grown in Siberia and interior Alaska in place of wheat because it yields nearly as much as wheat but can survive random cold bouts better. And in cold maritime climates, oats tend to do even better, which is why it's common in places like Scandinavia, the British Isles, and Iceland.
Beans and potatoes were new world crops. Which means until the 1500s most cultures outside of the americas didnt have access to them. Cabbage was widely cultivated and a main ingredient for various fermented dishes and stirfries. Beets, radishes, and carrots were old world root crops that were heavily cultivated.

Wheats and grains are pretty easy to grow actually, especially in their more ancient forms. They are after all, essentially grasses.

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Anyone into it? What's the craziest shit you've found? Any suggestions for not-so-obvious spots that might turn up treasures?
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Creepy digits for all them creepy doll parts. Very cool pic too. I always heard the west was just normal and all the gun fights were over exaggerated but I guess not. That makes it all the more cooler though. What year is the half dollar?
>What's the lump of metal above the pull tab?
Oh its just an interesting rock I found while digging for something else. Up close its tan colored with a white swirl. I figured I may as well take it home too. The black thing in the corner isn't metal either but was by a can I dug up. It was sticking out of the ground so I took it so no one would step on it. It's very sharp. I've found some aluminum nuggets before at another place. Wish it were silver.
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The half is an 1858. Not particularly valuable but I like it because I found it under a big fat rock that was part of a house foundation. Probably hidden there on purpose. I don't find a lot of buried treasure, so it's fun when it happens. The saloon tokens I'm hunting weren't valuable back then so they just ended up in the trash or tossed out the back door or whatever. Basically Victorian litter instead of valuables.
I'm pretty sure people used to put coins inside of houses that had whatever year the house was made on them as the house was being built. Like under the floorboards and what not.
That fourth of July thing is pretty awesome too.
When I did land surveying, we would come across old homestead foundations deep in the mountains. I always had a method of pacing off each corner of the foundation a certain distance while detecting. Back then people didn't use banks, they buried their valuables. Never had much luck, found the occasional trinket or whatever. Hit paydirt one time. Me and the my rod man found a tin full of gold coins and silver coins. Ended up splitting it even, made away 20 grand each. Was awesome getting paid to metal detect on the clock.
if you get stopped by 'authorities' where youre detecting.. what has happened in your exp ?(just talking about immediate repercussions) :

told to fuck off?
shit confiscated?

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>Axe thread

considering pic related. post yer axe.
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Just wait until you find out about machetes!
Just wait until you find out about saws!
Nah machetes don't interest me but I like billhooks.
I work with wood as a hobby and I'm loyal to Zetsaw.
Based and wood-pilled sawposter
The fucks that mean?

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Never posted on this board before but this is a specifically retarded question so I will need you guys.

There is this 30 mile long chain of natural limestone shoals separating continental India from the island of Lanka called Adam's bridge. The sea in the area rarely exceeds 3 feet in depth as the whole thing used to be a fully unsubmerged land bridge connecting to Lanka.

It's on my bucket list to cross this thing on foot by hiking and swimming so do you guys think I could do it?
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You are completely ignoring the fact that equatorial sunshine is much harsher. Sri Lanka is 8 degrees north of the equator, Georgia is is about 35. You really don’t know what you’re talking about.
>I would take a hammock setup
There appear to be no trees whatsoever according to the street view images. Just a few patches of scrubby grass.
Theres no way the poo meme is that bad
You weren't there man, you don't know what it was like... I did 3 tours of Sri, that's how I lost my wooden leg, but I'm not going to tell you about that. You haven't EARNED being told about that.

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What is there to do here?
hardmode: state inclusive only
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can you narrow down either? those are large areas, any particular section you would recommend?
There is a secret underground ice skating pool here in the winter.
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Looks like there's a lot of water. Start fishing Anon.
I made a whole NH guide but too lazy to post it cus of tourists
I'm just across the border:

Muckross Park
Hartness Park
Green Mountain State Forest

San Francisco has the best balance between city and outdoor.
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the trick is getting them to not catch you. idk how that works exactly. its not like employment contracts really mean shit for anyone but one side of the agreement.
portland still beats it, i think.
>skiing hour away
>ocean hour away
>fucking windsurfing, hour away
>hiking all over the place.

but PDX and SF are both deserving of nuclear hellfire, so whatever. wouldn't want to live in either city (though i did go PSU.. 2 years in portland was enough)
once you go full rural there is no going back to living in a town, let alone a city
Pack it up boys the threads over

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do any former fishchan posters lurk this board?

Ultralight/long distance hiking thread. Post your gear list and base weight. Any triple crowners here?
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Going to start saying this now, thanks. Rolls off the tongue a lot better than shart in mart’ers
In the Olympics right now, it’s cold but not too bad. Pic rel slept at 5300 ft the other night and was fine with my 20 degree quilt. But my buddy is wanting to do the Ozark Highland Trail in January. Im a pussy so I’ve never done long distance hiking in winter only 2-3 nights and day hikes. I have put a 20 degree bag inside of a Sol Escape Mylar bivy and been comfortable at 15 degrees. I only use a Z lite foam pad but I’ve seen and heard a lot of good things about the Uber Lite air mattress. With a 20 degree bag inside a Mylar bivy on top of an air mattress on top of a foam pad inside a single wall tent will I be cozy in the Ozarks in January? Thanks for reading my blog
Okay im not the anon your replying to but instead of just telling him hes wrong how about you fucking explain why?
I live in northern ontario and have never bothered with quilts because of the reasons that anon has said. Last night it got to 4 degrees celsius.
In summer I literally just grab a fucking comfy bedsheet. Spring or fall? Absolutely not, if the sheet or quilt were to slip off of me i would wake up freezing and probably sick as hell.
Winter? A sheet or quilt is completely out of the question. You will freeze in canadian winter if you dont have a good sleeping bag.
I go backpacking and canoeing.
Are we talking car camping or something? Do you live in a place that never goes below freezing? Because it sounds like your talking shit anon
Explain it to me, maybe im missing something here.
>inb4 you give me a retarded non answer reply like the other anon.
I own a pair of scissors and the strength to believe. Also most people own some size contractor bags; the only people I know that buy compactor bags are people that use them for liners.

Is 6ft to narrow of a tarp for a minimalist setup? Thinking a 10/9 x 6 mild cat cut tarp. Primarily A frame, half pyramid, and lean-to.

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I want to buy a grow light to supplement the light my houseplants get during winter

Can I just buy a commercial 2000 lumen LED tube lights and call it a day? I don't want to spend 200 bucks for a grow™ light™
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Why not just let nature run its course, though? If it's winter, it's supposed to be less sunny. You wouldn't trust eating the fresh tomatoes from the supermarket when they're out of season, why force your home plants in a similar manner?
Because they're mostly citruses olives and other such mediterranean plants whilst I'm quite a bit further north
Because it's possible with modern technology. Fuck out off here with that hippie shit. The plants are just happy to grow.

Are you telling me you live through the dark winter without electric lights? Only working during the few hours the sun is up? Because that is the way nature intended. Right?
Growing greens, and seedlings is much different light requirements than growing to fruit bearing.
Go with full spectrum led quantum boards for the win.
ALSO, don't go by advertising, go by wattage used.

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Any bonsai enjoyers or doers on /out/?

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