Anybody own a UGQ Zeppelin? I'm looking to make myself another underquilt and I'm basically just ripping off their design. I have a question about the baffling.Is the fabric just two layers of fabric sewn together into tubes? Or is there another hidden fabric inside separating the two layers? pic related to explain what I meanMy current thinking is to do something more like C, as when it's folded around the underside of the hammock, the gaps between each layer should press together and not be practically any worse than A, which is probably the ideal pattern to use however it is quite complicated to sew compared to B and C. I've made two underquilts before. The first one was absolute trash. The second one is actually pretty decent, and I've used it in the middle of (British) winter without issue. It's a 3/4 quilt and weighs 550g, but it needs to be used with a mummy sleeping bag. The UGQ zeppelins are about 600-700g for a full-length design, though full-length would allow me to replacing the sleeping bag with a top-quilt, which would save over half a kilo (and a bunch of pack space, which is my main concern). Aside from this, anybody got any tips?
>>1983914A is the cut view. The vertical pieces of fabric are the mesh.
>>1983914>I dont get how the mesh is positionedHoly shit
>>1984187Thank you I see! Will you sew the mesh and the fabric together?>>1984276What's wrong you dog? I'll bash your teeth in
>>1984768>Will you sew the mesh and the fabric together?That's the plan, yeah. I have vague temptations to use silicone instead, but not sure I actually want to do that and risk it falling apart. It would be a lot easier to keep everything lined up though.
>>1984768I'm not who you are replying to but damn you are stupid. Must be a leaf.
Are knives unnecessary for backpacking?
>>1984166You weren't there dumb nigger.
>>1985456Did you really come all this way just to suck my dick? You thirsty huh?
>>1984698I miss /z/
>>1985243I'm not a retard.
>>1985526Nigger
Any barefoot hikers in here? How difficult is long-distance backpacking while barefoot? I've never done anything more than day hikes barefoot and want to start testing myself more.
Before the invention of shoes and gloves how did people avoid frostbite?
>>1983791i do it all the time i only ever wear shoes while im driving or im going to the store fuck shoes and fuck baby feet
>>1982866God you people are like the vegetarians of hikingI hate hippies so much
>>1985621the selk'nam people from the far southern patagonia coated themselves in a mixture of ash and animal fat
>>1982866ive been running and hiking barefoot (as well as minimalist type shoes and huarache sandals) for well over a decade now. No troubles with my knees or achilles or anything like that. A few splinters in the feet and all, easy enough to remove. Dont expect much sympathy from health care professionals. Id highly recommend it to anyone who feels disconnected from the earth and from nature. When i was younger and more nuts i went barefoot in the city too, but thats pretty grungy.
I’d like some input from anons with experience.
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>>1985818Just got back was pretty sick although I feel like a total faggot for doing it siege style. I could never live up to the legacy of true mountaineers like Reinhold Messner.
I thought it would be harder than it was; the entire ascent was easy and pretty boring. Don’t think I’ll do it again but maybe if I have nothing else going on
Hi!I just bought a boat. Pic related. I wanted one for a while but to be honest, I dont know anything about owning a boat. It was kinda a spontaneous purchase cause I think the deal was pretty good. The guy that sold it to me showed me how to start it and he told me he gets maintenance on it every two years and takes it out to the lake about once a month. What else show i know? Any advice or recommendations? I can't tie any knots btw
>>1982614advice? just do whatever you want. go balls to the wall, put it in wherever and however you want. someone else will save you, if you get in trouble. make sure you go full speed everywhere, otherwise you might get stuck. make sure you insure it, so when you put it and your tow vehicle into the lake at the ramp, someone else has to pay for it. When you get arrested for dumping your wifes body in the lake off of it, make sure you tell those cops your full alibi, talk as much as possible, make sure you tell them" yeah, i hated that bitch, but i would have never killed her that way"or just sell that POS, because you will never use it.
>>1983497from what I understand that basically means get it in the water then gtfo the ramp?
>bought a boat to fuck barely legal teensthere are easier ways of doing it that dont involve spending thousands on a boat
>>1984858I bought a boat to have fun
Im taking it to the lake tomorrow for the first time since its finally my day off. My dad is claiming I have to put flush muffs on the engine before I put it into the water. Is this true? I dont believe it and sounds like it would fuck up my engine if I do or don't. Obviously that means I have a stern drive. Pls respond
It's done boyos.
i hope they shot a movie about it
>>1985750Wew, touched a nerve eh
>>1985843Still not an argument
>>1985471everyone laugh at this faggot
>>1985885This sentiment is the kind of shit that brought us the Kompressor.
How are you meant to deal with black bears? I do a lot of winter hiking in the Adirondacks. Seeing mama and cub tracks in fresh snow on trails is concerning. Also, when tf these niggas go to sleep?
>>1985595it's been 80 days now since my last fap and my life still sucks.
Are that many people really allergic to carrying a pistol in case bears don’t scare off,?
>>1985797>Adirondacks>PistolNever lived in Blue York I take it
>>1985595If you think OP’s pic is lust provoking then you have some extremely low standards.
>>1985801You can’t even open carry in the woods?
Hello fellow /out/ists, I just built my first log cabin. Howd I do?Edit: thanks for mentioning how cute my heckin pupperino is!Edit #2: Thank for all the updoots, see you on the front page!
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>>1985453Thansk fren
>>1985019Because most of this board is weekend warrior day hikers from the city who got some meme degree and have no career prospects and because of that cant understand how people might use their resources to make /out/ a lifestyle rather than a hobby.
How efficient is skiing in snow (duh) compared to walking? In terms of speed and calories spent.
>>1982239Cross country skiiers are among the fittest people on the planet. It's intense cardio and calisthenics. You may move faster but you work for it.
>>1982669I had to break trail in 5ft of snow to a decent chute.. Had to brush it away far enough with my hands so I could lift my snowshoe up and then had to pack down each step before it supported me. I was in charge of 3 others that trip. That was the most exhausting 1/2 mile I've ever done.
>>1983377when you get good you start to learn how to conserve energy thoughyou're not just moving faster, skiing is probably twice as efficient energy-wise (comparing road running to ski racing on a groomed trail, so conditions are obviously variable)
>>1983377True, some of the highest VO2/max have been measures in cross country ski racers. I've never seen people that look more spent then an Olympic cross country racer during the last stretch of their race.
Here, I went out for a leisurely nordic ski today since we had a good snow last night. I was nose breathing the whole time so there wasn't much exertion. The terrain was rolling and I was on fat backcountry nordic skis. And this is only my first winter on skis.
>December 21st>No winter camping thread in catalogWhy haven't you gone winter camping yet this year /out/?If a 16 year old anime school girl can go solo camping in the winter, you should be able to as well. You aren't scared of a little cold, are you?>pic related, post your comfy winter campsites
>>1978488during summer I agree.But in winter It can get Cold and windy as fuck, I stay much warmer with my gore tex hardshell worn above everything else. Especially if its snowing frozen condensation from the tent ceiling
>>1984379You wear your hard shell, which is most likely wet from sweat or snow inside you sleeping bag?
>>1984421if out in extreme Cold,yes Also when it is that cold, just brushing tue jacket off outside the tent gets rid if any frozen moisture
overnighter this weekend, second time camping in snow.
the setup
Hey /out/, didn't know where else to ask, so I suppose this board is the best.I've given up on society, and want to become a fire watchman with the national parks. I've been camping and roughing plenty, and know my way around a gun. I was an eagle scout, so I should be relatively prepared. How do I go about becoming one?
>>1985286Yeah they're still staffed during the summer. But like you said also rented out during the winter for guests.
>>1985084im surprised there are still fire lookout jobs out there! in bc they just use computers now. same with lighthouses
>>1985109fag
>>1985084How is your sense of smell? wilderness management? its a fun place to work for those who are pationate about living like a derr in the woods. otherwise fuck off you dream theif
>>1985084they rarely, if ever, actually sit in towers anymore. nearly all fire watching is done by satellites now.
I'll be moving to Washington state soon and I want to do Mt.Baker. I've done Mt.Fuji before but it's so commercialized when I went in the summer that I didn't need to bring special gear. I've read comments how dangerous Mt.Baker is but all the videos I've seen makes it seem pretty straightforward/no technical skills needed. I dont want to spend $1k on some class/tour if I can do it myself for free.So what should I look up? Any specific gear? I already have crampons and an ice axe but I think cross country skis might be a good choice for the first say 1/4-1/3 of the hike from what I've seen. I'll take any advice you guys can give me.
Just go walk up it on a spring day with good weather on a non glacier route
We encourage you to have a look around the catalog first to see what we’re all about before posting your first thread. Topics typically posted here include:>LARPING activities (Pretending to hike, be an army man, survivalist, urban explorer, etc.)>Make believe>Lying about hunting, fishing, and other activities involving the stalking or taking of (imaginary) game>Outdoor method acting, play-bushcraft, foraging, pretend self-sustenance in nature, fake hoboism, etc.>Day dream outdoor destinations and exploration (non-existent trails, parks, regions, etc.)>Fucking thin-air related activities>Method acting>Imagining building cabins, huts, treehouses, etc.>Group LARPing social activities and LARPs (meet-ups, cosplaying, impersonation, etc.)>LARP gear related to any of the above topicsMost topics related to the LARPing are fine. Write properly, behave politely, encourage a respectful community, and most importantly, GO LARP!!
>>1985384go back >>>/pol/
Mom said I have to get a job. So obviously, it's time for met to move into the woods and live as a hermit for the rest of my life.I have almost twenty dollars (over a HUNDRED if I sell my video games), which should be more than enough to buy a saw, a knife and some corn seeds.Heading out tomorrow, but wanted to see if there were any last-minute tips you guys had. Thanks!
>>1985295Sometimes I think internet forums talk too much about gear rather than the activities itself.
>>1985630>internet forumsNo, just on 4chan and sometimes Youtube
>>1985306The trail of tears
Sometimes I find geocaches by accident while innawoods. What do you do to make it fun and challenging for the next geocacher?
>>1985163There's gotta be a website that scrubs and aggregates coordinates, right?
>>1979442LARP
>>1983090>>1984413You can literally just go to their site, sign up, and view the coordinates. Anyone can do this, and it can't be traced back to you unless you're stupid enough to use the actual geocaching app.
>>1984513>Fuck you hick
>>1985253no u
Has anybody here used WWOOF? If so, please give your experiences and what you learned.
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