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Post your urbex, scavengers, trespassers, adventurers, loners, killers, explorers and robbers.
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>>2466075
up a sheer wall? slick with water or dusty sediment? where the top is also blocked in most places by wide concrete covers and the only place i found to exit was a 16 inch wide space right behind one of the supporting V pillars where some sheet metal had fallen off? not so easy.
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>>2466082
you should start a garden and see if anyone gets weird about it. if they dont, live there
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>>2466110
then describe it properly the first time. a seven foot pit is arms reach to pull uptwtgdx out of.
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>>2466348
>a seven foot pit is arms reach to pull uptwtgdx out of.
maybe you can, but I'm not strong enough right now, i did this while sick, kek. made the physical parts more difficult. currently coughing up way more green mucus than I ever have. fucking shite.
>describe it properly the first time
i mean ...
>pit below each cooling tower, with no obvious way out
>no obvious way out
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Better than posting a bunch of stills
https://youtube.com/watch?v=COzH21FiU6U

What is /out/s opinion on both? I am looking into getting decent pair of pants for trekking and I'm wondering if it's worth it to get a pair of pants that can also be used as a pair of shorts during the summertime.
Being able to Zip-Off the legs of your pants on the fly if it gets too hot also seems like a great deal but I'm very worried about the durability of a pair of pants like that since the zippers add another point of failure.
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>>2466200
Just roll your pant legs up like a man
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>>2466607
I feel this all could be reduced to light merino underwear, zip-off pants and rainpants.
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I included zip offs in my gear when I spent 2 weeks camping in remote OK. Added versatility without added weight. I kept a pair of thick workpants for brush busting and stuff, though. Wouldn't trust most zip offs in real rough conditions. They were good for relaxing around camp, though.
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>>2466972
merino underwear is disgusting in the summer and hiking pants are miserable in the summer.
techically 80% hikes most of us do you could get away with your cock exposed wearing nothing below the waist. all a matter of how much you want to minmax.
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zip off pants shorts are gonna be like 4x thicker than the type of shorts i recommend. my guide is how to not get swamp cock after a day hiking.
if you don't mind swampy ass then yeah wear whatever.

How do I prevent myself from getting missing 411’d?
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>>2463765
I seen a troll in Iceland. If that's out there what else could there be?
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>>2465589
If I did it in the dead of winter where I live, I would freeze to death long before anyone found me, especially if I wasn't actively seeking rescue.
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Rape anything trying to rape you before it can rape you, except you don't know what will want to rape you so just rape anything and anybody that can be raped.
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>>2463765
Start larping as a predator
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don't deal with the clintons

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What items types, and what specific items in these categories do you advice for prepping?
When I say prepping I mean for the following cases:

-power going out for prolonged amounts of time -> so most likely supermarkets and such dont function so no food supply, also hospitals dont function, nor businesses, also no fuel for cars-> most people dont prep so they chimp out

-civil unrest that may cause similar things but less intense and not because theres no electricity but because people are destroying shit so some infrastructure is damaged or some people didn't go to work bc they're endangered, also they may try to loot your house, can happen bc they're just looters or bc they ran out of food

-floods or earthquakes, same as above

So what I need is food that is nutrient and lasts a long time(canned food but which, wasa crackers, pre workout powder), a way to purify water (Sawyer mini filter, maybe a bigger one to keep at home) and access to water, meds for infections, diarrhea, bandaids, antibiotics, assault rifle for overt actions, pistol for concealed carry, smg/sbr for covert actions carried in backpack or car, as accessories an lpvo or prism sight + micro red dot and light on the assault rifle, holo + magnifier and light on sbr, light on pistol

Plate carrier with lvl4 plates and all the stuff attached to it but I want to focus on prepping not around gear, also unlikely to be used but good to own

Concelabale lvl3 soft armor


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>>2466671
llmola good one anon
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>>2466769
>Do you think your solar panels will even last 10 years?
Yes. Most panels are warrantied to still produce at least 90% of their original rated capacity at 10 years and some newer panels will still be producing 90% by 25 years.
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>>2466753
would you kill yourself if you had to go to prison?
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>>2466242
the best things to have when prepping are the least "sexy" or "tacticool", and ones that take the most effort to acquire:
- contingency plans for different scenarios, with resilient subplans and possibilities
- physical fitness and mental conditioning to perform under stress
- knowledge of your area (in order: neighborhoods, infrastructure, types of businesses and industrial activity and the assets or hazards they could produce, terrain&topology, flora and fauna, climate, people and groups of people of interest, organizations be they government or not that operate in your area)
- experience simulating bug-out or bug-in drills: hiking or driving to "safe" locations using only maps, and at night, or during rush hour, going a month without the supermarket, etc
- a network of friends and acquaintances from whom you can receive info, knowledge, and possibly ressources. ideally they would have useful skills and a will to organize as well

If you're actively preparing for shtf scenarios, putting time into the above will pay off much more than larping on a flat range. That being said, the latter is much more fun as a hobby, but should be seen mostly as a good activity or sport to do rather than survival prepping, as long as your mind, body, and knowledge are not ready.

With this in mind, here are the items that I think are most important
-a stocked pantry and kitchen: you can't think and plan if you're hungry and your hunter gatherer instincts are making you twitchy
- radios and off-grid comms. if shit is hitting the fan and internet/electric is down in your area, this will let you hear government and emergency services broadcasts and possibly (hopefully) organize with your neighbors. Think about it: if you wake up one day to huge traffic jams, smoke in the air, and internet and TV are down, how would you know what happened? is it riots? did a power plant explode? did yellowstone erupt? Having as much info as possible is crucial in applying the right plan.
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>>2466755
People who don't do anything always insist that everyone else also do nothing as well or it makes them sad. You can confidently ignore people who tell you to do nothing because there's no point anyways.

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Did you have a nice summer?
Lets share comfy stories and pictures from this summer
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>>2467946
>t. autist
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>>2466611
I believe this. I went there to see the Quechua backpacks when I was looking for my 3-day and they all looked like they wouldn't last long. I do have an old Btwin bike and a water bottle I got there years ago and they're both nice.
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>>2466650
>no thanks
suit yourself
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How do I win a fishing tournament?

>Catch a big fish
I know, but how?
Its going to be trout.
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>>2464025
My brother is semipro. I'd say your best bet is you better have fished the area and know the best joints. You better know everything about that kind of fish. And at the end of the day it is just rng hoping you get the biggest one.
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>>2464549
AFAIK the pros will scout ahead of time. Finding good spots, reading the water, bank, temperature, time of day, and submerged structures, and selecting appropriate tackle are the biggest hurdles and where most of the skill lies. After that, it's a matter of casting as much as possible where it will do the most good.
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>>2464549
>>2465139
Well, im fucked.
Its going to be my first time fishing that place.
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>>2464025
you win by going out there and having fun and playing by the rules and being nice to the fish and giving it your best effort, champ.

Now go make me proud
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>>2465384
why, is the tournament tomorrow? just go there and look around.

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What's your loadout like for hot weather hiking and camping? What clothing do you wear to protect from the sun? How much water do you carry? How light or how heavy do you pack? What do you pack? What kind of tent? What kind of food? What animals do you have to worry about where you hike/camp?

What mistakes and lessons have you learned from?
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one thing that I've found very helpful in the desert is transitioning to heavy hauler type packs (osprey aether, gregory baltoro). even 1 night trips here I'm probably carrying 20+lbs of water (1.5 gal/day) and lighter packs are mad uncomfy. then go ultralight on as much other gear as possible. cowboy camp in winter or use a little bug bivy in summer. if you're staying on trail then sun hoodie+shorts+trail runners are fine but going cross country I like more durable clothes and big boots for brush/rock protection. never wear goretex anything, salomon forces (their military line) makes the best non waterproof boots I've found so far. whatever you do have some sort of head covering and shades or you will be miserable. the most dangerous animals here are bees rattlesnakes and javelina all of which tend to announce their presence one way or another and are easy enough to avoid. my favorite desert snacks are japanese peanuts, salty dark chocolate, and salt and vinegar chips. really salty crunchy stuff tastes so fucking good out in the heat and prevents hyponatremia. cool mint flavor cliff bars are also great plus they got a little caffeine.

biggest lessons learned out here is probably commercial gear>>>milsurp. and GPS apps are incredibly helpful, get an offline map and always drop pins on your car, your camp, and any nearby water sources.
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>>2466623
>cowboy camp in winter
sounds really cold and potentially dangerous. It still rains and snows in the desert.
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>>2466623
These are some very helpful tips. Thank you.
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>>2459406
sun hat
sunglasses
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>>2466626
Then don't do it lmao

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Starting to get beans off the plants I hacked back to almost nothing instead of pulling. I doubt I'll get enough for a meal since its so late in the season, but I can snack on them for the next few frost free weeks.
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So I snapped off a small twig off a wild cherry type tree I like.
It's currently sitting stem in water.
How do I make it root and grow a new tree form it?
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>>2468086
put it on HRT
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>>2468095
no, we want natty grow here.
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I just discovered all persimmons produce non astringent fruit if the flowers are pollinated

EATS COCKS AND BREAK ARMS!
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>>2466830
Wtf kek.
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>>2466830
The clickbait is getting ridiculous.

Are these types of gloves, insulated, the best for working /out/side in wet and cold conditions?
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>>2466698
I use cut-resistant gloves so I hopefully won't lose fingers if I fuck up with the hatchet
>>2466699
fpbp

F
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I use Burton ak yeti when it's real cold, or waterproof leather drivers.
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>>2466698
Personally I think so yeah.
PU covered gloves are cheap as fuck, you retain a lot of movement, they are thin enough to not loose tactile feedback, thick enough to not have to worry about thorns, nettles and smaller shit. Don't last very long, but at that price, they are easy to replace.
Depending on what you do you may want heavier gloves though.
>>2466710
>I hopefully won't lose fingers if I fuck up with the hatchet
In the unlikely event that your hand comes under the swing of a hatchet, cut resistant gloves won't save it. But it may help against cutting yourself with a knife.
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>>2466710
if you're counting on them for this purpose, i can't stress enough to test the gloves out first. there's so many bad cut resistant gloves on the market and there's no way to tell without buying an extra pair and seeing how difficult it is to destroy. most of the ones i have bought/tested suck. the last time i worked with knives and tested these things was around 2012 though so i won't name drop brands that were good back then because i don't know now.
also cut resistant won't do anything for a hatchet swing really. if you keep the edge sharp it'll stop you from absent-mindedly slicing your hand open same for knives. which is more useful than it sounds. but as anon said none of these will do squat for an axe swing, you're losing fingers either way.
on the bright side sometimes you can get lucky and get them replanted. i always forget my dad chopped his fingers off. can't even tell it ever happened desu.
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maybe you can find youtubers who've tested all these gloves these days or something, but i would still always buy 2+ and test a pair before trusting it

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I fucked my Xlite by putting it on raw concrete because I am a retard. I'm gonna get a groundsheet now.
What do you use (show)? Is Tyvek actually good or some ultralight meme? Any recommendations?
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>>2464689
Its not loud after you wrinkle it.
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>>2465085
none of them will protect a sleeping pad from something sharp. read my post i said to buy 1/8 foam for that.
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>>2465200
umm yeah it will retard
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In case anyone cares, I got picrel surplus german "Bundeswehr Unterlegplane" and will give it a try. A bit on the heavy side but it was designed for that exact purpose, cost around 9$, thick as fuck and doubles as an emergency tarp and does not take up too much space.
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>>2465217
not really.
are you the same 15yo acting like even ultralight niggers don't have duct tape?

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What type of hard containers do you guys use to carry/transport water in situations where you have a vehicle, like overlanding with your 4x4? Are those plastic jerry cans the best option? Or are there other alternatives? Do those brick containers live up to the hype? I've heard they are hard to clean.
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>>2459414
Just buy those arazona ice tea jugs. They are really sturdy, disposable, and cheap af
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>>2462477
this right here, all other answers are wrong,
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>>2462477
I thought that last sentence was gonna be about peeing :(
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>>2462477
nice
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>>2459414
jerry cans or these >>2461003 depending on what vehicle you need to fit them on
if you're doing something where you take a vehicle into the woods then base camp and hike on foot from there, i switched to using soft collapsible jerry cans. like a normal water membrane but thicker and designed so you sit it down on the ground.

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Has anyone rolled the dice on camping gear from AliExpress and bought something that turned out better than expected? What camping/outdoor gear have you guys bought that worked and stood up pretty well and/or was cheaper than another alternative?
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>>2462927
Which one do you use?
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>>2459177
>>2459200
>>2459222
Hello, sir, Thank you for like our products. But this dress for girl, it is not for man. We have many good quality products for man on our store page, please contact us if you necessary.best wishes.
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>>2461200
>>2461397
Cloud Up 1 is listed as being 20cm longer than the Cloud Up 2, so it could be better if you're tall? I don't own either one, so I don't know how much difference that would make to comfort on the inside. 1 and 2 seem very similar in overall size and weight, from the the pics to me it looks like the main difference is the position of the guy lines. 2 might have better protection from condensation since the fly sheet is getting pulled tighter.
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>>2459200
These products "American" brands sell from China are never inspected in America. They go right from China to retail, and its the exception not the rule that any American employee ever visits the factory even once after production begins.
I have had things made in China. Other business owners feel free to confirm.
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>>2463071
Thanks.

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For me it this:
-MSR Hubba NX tent, in the summer just the inner, it's freestanding
-Thermarest Neo Xlite Large, 61cm wide is really the minimum
-Thermarest sheet for the sleeping pad
-Trekology pillow
-Vaude Alpstein 450 quilt if it's cold, poncho liner if it's warm. Both if it's very cold. Still colder? I add cheap fleece blankets.

BTW, be nice to the hammock fags, we know they are retards, but they don't. Just be nice.
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>>2466227
It will be okay as a diamond fly (should be about 14ft) but the coverage will not be good for windy conditions. A hex fly is much better; a hex fly or rectangular fly with doors is the all-weather.i have slept very tucked up in my hex fly but never wet.
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>>2460128
Yes of course. That’s nice. Yep. Mmhmm. Keep it right up kiddo.
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>>2466335
I'm starting to think that hammock camping is not for me.
Tent dwellers buy a tent, a mat and a sleeping bag.
Hammock dwellers buy a hammock, slings, lines, hooks, underquilt, overquilt, mosquito net and tarp. Still they aren't as well protected, haul more and heavier gear and pay a higher price for the privilege.
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>>2460113
This is my go-to. It's an ENO hammock tarp, that I modified for ground use. It's great, except the walls sag in at night. I plan to attach some guyout points to fix that.
>Thermarest foam pad
>Nemo 20º bag
>Rolled up pair of pants for pillow
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>>2466640
>walls sag in at night
Such is nylon/silicone once it saturates.
Sweet and simple, i like it.

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I'm doing the Kungsleden trail for two weeks this October. Sold all my gear and got an £800 budget, ideally want it to be rated to -30 for Finland this January.


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