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A thread for discussion and creation of out related patches.
post your ideas and patches.
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>>2066383

Just got here today, I it appreciate the packaging.
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>>2074930
get fucked
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>>2068060
Thanks for the patch anon. Had I known you were so close I would've picked it up in person.
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>missed out on burger bear patch
waaah i need to lurk moar
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>>2068060
Sewed it on poorly, maybe you'll recognize it in our favorite mtn range.

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Yes, some of it is stock photos, for places I want to but have not been yet, but as much of it as possible is my own original content. I certainly encourage y'all to post your original content and stories about trails/hiking/camping as well here! Ignore the negativity and haters!
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>>2072767
yeah, it looks nothing like the UK
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In my vacation in Japan I went to Nishinomiya Kita High School, that is the school of Suzumiya Haruhi
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Homo arigato Mr roboto. Homo
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>>2075666
Brown
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>>2075666
checked

is it true that pakistani high altitude porters sometimes try to rape people they accompany on the k2/broad peak/gasherbrum base camp treks?
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this is how we deal with rapists here in peru...
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>>2072652
I doubt they would rape anyone unless they were sure they were going to die and not tell the tale. That is their bread and butter.
But then again in our countries Pakis are happy to rape girls in the back of their taxis.
The thing about rape the MRA and MGTOW set don't realize is that most of the time conviction is impossible because it's a he-said/she-said.
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>>2074650
They might be clever about it. For instance they might know how to spot lefty women and how to manipulate them.
eg. Rape them then make up some crap like "Oh you offered me some of your coffee on the trail, that means you love me and want to bone in our culture. Please don't hate me I am just a pet brown retard."
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>>2074662
this. if you see a bunch of people looking like those guys from OP and don't feel threatened to go with them into the wilderness, well... you had it coming
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>>2074662
Based

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Anyone tried making something similar to MREs, or some backpacking food that require little cooking?
I was thinking of something like this
>breakfast
-cheese
-cracker
-jam
>lunch
-beans
-instant noodles
>dinner
-spam
-cracker
And pack for 2-3 days worth.
Maybe get potato and wrap it in tinfoil for snack as well.
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>>2073214
Even larpers gotta eat brother. When you're on day 4 of imagining you're Frodo crossing orc-infested Mordor you don't want your tummy rumbling because your sandwiches went bad.
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>>2071650
>While those items could be used, and may likely be used in small amounts in an MRE, they are far from a balanced diet.
I mean MRE mains aren't any different from pic related, but with knorr sides it weighs far less and tastes better cooked

>The point of any MRE project is to have a large number of varieties to keep things interesting, as morale is a major factor for any numerous-day excursion
You aren't supposed to live off eating MREs, and they certainly weigh too much for very long multi-day excursions
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>>2073214
I met a retired couple going in for 8 days. You larp harder pussy.
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>>2073181
>too much
Just get canned beans and canned spam with cup noodles.
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>>2073145
>The most fun you can have with your pants on

God damn it I'm sold, what vacuum sealer do you have?

Also, don't forget to pack some eggs when you go /out/

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I've been camping recently and considering backpacking for the first time.

Is it worth it to purchase a Jetboil, or am I better off with a cheap pot and one of those foldable $15 or so stoves? I mostly want to boil water for coffee and cook soup.
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>>2075221
>>2075236
Thanks guys, love the Chinese.

Any recommendations for cheap backpacks and hatchets?
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>>2075239
its just me
if you're deadset on carrying an axe, buy a cheap on and google how to rehandle an axe. Handle can be bought for 15$ at hardware or ranch store
https://us.amazon.com/Trading-HB-1-2H-C-32477-Boys/dp/B000A11EH2/

Best beginner pack IMO, used it for a few years
https://us.amazon.com/TETON-Sports-Internal-High-Performance-Backpacking/dp/B000F34ZKS/
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>>2075239
oh and if you are carrying an axe to split wood get a saw to cut it Coghlans sierra saw from sportsmans is great for 10$
ONLY cut downed trees newfriend. Green wood doesnt burn well and it's probably illegal to cut live trees where you live on public land.
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>>2075239
>Bringing a hatchet

Please just Google what backpacking is before you come on /out/
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>>2075239
>Any recommendations for cheap backpacks
Enjoy wasting money and buying things over and over.

/Out/ Movie General
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>>2073852
Any more like this? Camp themed movies are always super comfy and light hearted
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>>2073849
>can you at least make it taste like chicken?
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>>2071045
Solid rec, anon!
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>>2073177
check up that documentary about the guy who first free soloed el capitan some years ago
free solo is it called. im sure its on /t/ on the documentary general rn

amazing shit
the crew are friends of the guy, and they have some talks about 'we might end up filming our friend fucking exploding against the bottom because he is not using any ropes to climb this whole mountain no one has climbed ropeless before''

It's also amusing to see him bully his gf
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How difficult is building a “diy” boat?
Is a person without any previous knowledge capable of building something like this without sinking? Any recommendations?
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>>2074180
awesome website, this design looks fun
http://hvartial.kapsi.fi/glouc/glouc.htm
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>>2074172
>>2074180
Excellent resource.
I built this from his coracle design last year
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>>2074656
minecraft paddle
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>>2074656
How thick is the plywood for your laths?
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research stitch and glue boat building

>figure out what shape you want
>make your bulkheads by fashioning cardboard templates till you get the shape right and then cut them out of marine plywood
>use cardboard templates to get your hull planks the right shape and cut them out of marine ply
>drill holes every few inches and run wire through them and twist it together to align the planks and bulk heads appropriately
>make sure everything is properly laid up and you like the shape
>Tack it with epoxy every here and there along the joint just enough to stick it together while you do the seams
>clip the wire and remove it
>fair the seams on the inside with epoxy putty
>let it set up/cure
>then lay some fiber glass strips (glass tape) and wet them down with epoxy (NO BUBBLES)
>do a couple layers like that, maybe 2-4 to fair and seal the seam
>just do that
>inside and out

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1 to 10, how /out/ is Boise?
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>>2068863
I drove through there last week coming back from Montana/Wyoming. Thought I’d spend a day cruising the I15 and meandering into the bushes. Got hit with a windstorm that obliterated any visibility. How do people live in places like that, or where tornadoes hit, or hurricanes?
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>>2070276
Bend is nice
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>>2075580
Was driving through Bend when I was taking a cross country road trip. Me getting there happened to coincide with the entire town having a 1950s day type thing. People all dressed up like from the 50s, classic cars cruising down mainstreet, live street performances, and a farmers market to top it all off. That was one of the coolest experiences I had the entire trip.
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>>2075690
Last time I was there there was a road bike race that went right through downtown, people lining the streets and all that. Definitely an enviable place to live.
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>>2075691
My only regret was not visiting the Deschutes brewery, but maybe next time!

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hey /out/, i want to go innawoods alone and stay out for a night, have a fire maybe.
what should i bring?
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>>2071474
>Tent way too close to the fire
>Big ass axe
>Big heavy cast iron
>Tent set up less than 200ft from a water source

Fucking larpers, enjoy your tent catching on fire or a flash flood sweeping you and all your gay shit into the ocean
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>>2075353
>>2071827
He's probably a foreigner. They don't have the option to off themselves like a gentlemen and have to rely on natural disasters.
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>>2071474
For just ONE night?
Check forecast, if no rain:
- tarp shelter is ok.
If there's rain or you have diseased insects/rats/mice,
- tent just as a deterrent (with a footprint/tarp)
- Sleeping pad (foam or inflatable, u choose) to put distance between the cold ground and you
- hammock if you're ok dangling as u sleep
- Some food (and snacks) and cookware for it. Eggs for breakfast are always good.
- A lighter for fire lighting reliability and a small knife to carve a fire drill for fun or xp (or a larp) (Schrodinger's /out/er : if it works it's experience, if it doesn't it was just for fun)
- Booze if you drink,
- Wood cutting tool (saw, axe, depends what's available near you: dead standing trees or random trees/branches on the forest floor)
- LED light and spare batteries
- season temp appropriate sleeping bag
A big enough backpack to carry it all in.

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>>2072311
Had the same thought anon
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>>2075353
lol

I have a sinking feeling that civilization is on borrowed time.
What are some must-read books on the basics of outdoor survival and self-sufficiency?
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>>2075629
Rome collapsed and threw Europe into anarchy, same for many empires. Yes civilizations began anew but those civilizations effectively collapsed and went away.
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>>2075634
exactly the old one dies and a new one takes its place. why dont you just embrace change rather than resisting it like every other neo-fascist in history
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>>2075645
>just embrace being a slave bro and cut it with that toxic masculinity
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>>2075657
the future is female, youre right
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Civilization is collapsed. Long live civilization ™.
Think macro to micro. Globalism is a resounding success in creating a new battlefield for a new era. No longer can the goal be starving rival powers, or outcompeting an alternative worldview. Now, success as a state is found in the leverage you can negotiate over your "allies." Total war has passed, cold war is ended. Consolidation will rule tomorrow.
Thus, to get ahead, cities must look to other cities for trade. Encourage a policy of import replacement, by cannibalizing rootless corporations and creating micro-manufacturing. Turn to your surroundings to diversify resources, and become producers for self first, consumers of others later.
Individuals should form dual clan structures, forming generational wealth on both sides of the rural-urban line. Even better if the two compliment the other, i.e. farming grain and apples to provide for bakers; logging and chemistry for woodworking. Become artisans instead of manufacturers, reforming the guild system to exert political power against corporate and political opponents alike.
>End of /pol/ starting /out/
Do not be self sufficient. The Father did not let Man struggle alone. The Son founded a community to ensure our earthly and heavenly needs. Be as far outside The World's system as you can. Cut your cost of living by producing food and clothing. Seek durable pastimes, over constantly consuming media. Build fixtures to last generations. Buy raw materials and tithe finished ones.
Look not to The State to validate your wealth, but to The Church and the least of its members.

In other words;
Become Catholic
Have children
Plant a garden
Make something real.

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There wasn't one for my stupid question so decided to kill one thread for the sake of many.

Anyways, I'm sick of lugging my 3 person chinese tent that weighs probably 6kg or so; especially since I had to fix a bunch of holes in it over the winter. I hate that thing. But I'm poor, and my country's economy is in the shit so nothing is affordable due to currency exchange.

Now that you've read my blog: I want to just use my tarp + mat + sleeping bag. But I don't know what to do with my rifle when I'm sleeping in my stupid burrito. Do I just leave it to the side? In the off chance that someone sneaks into my camp without me waking they can just grab it from there while I'm fucking struggling with squirming out of there.

I'm sure some of you burgers at least have thought about this.
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>>2074393
one of the best parts of being /out/ is firearm intimacy just embrace it anon
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>>2074393
No problem bro. Just out of curiosity, what kind of rifle do you have?
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>>2074975
I've got a typhoon XII, and a hatsan sniper vortex .25 air rifle. İf I'm planning on a longer hike I just take the typhoon because together I have to stop every hour or so due to the insane weight with the rest of my shit. My side carry is a Walther ppk copy (vzor 70) that I usually don't take with me because it has a lot of sentimental value (was my dad's side during his 30 year service and has seen a lot of combat, but a couple years back it slamfired on me and I've been slightly hesitant about it both due to further damage and safety reasons).

And in case you're wondering I'm really happy with both roach rifles, the typhoon only had one case of failure to feed and failure to eject. The failure to feed happened with the cheapest shell I could find and only in the 10 round mag which had a 2 round limiter thingy on it for months before that test (because legally were only allowed one chambered round + 2 in the mag in my country), so I thought that was reasonable. The failure to eject might've been a result of me fixing the failure to feed that occured moments before. Other than that, really good for the price.

The air rifle is simply flawless btw. I can shoot fairly accurately up to 5-10cm CEP to 100 meters distance. I got a small boar that was ruining my family and neighbors fields back in our village in one shot at around 50-70m hitting just at the back of the ear. Painless and all, just dropped dead and convulsed.
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hunters, trappers, and leather workers of /out/ i have a question (obviously):
i stretched my first beaver skin this year, but the end product came out wonky.
is it possible for me to soak the skin and try again or is it beyond help?
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>>2073475
this

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So my friends roommate is a forest ranger here in Northern Colorado and he claims there's a hidden hot springs in somewhere in the mountains in this area. He said something about it being a spot only very few people and rangers know about because they want to keep it hidden away from retards (I'm no retard I promise) Anyone got a scoop on where I might find this place?? I'm assuming it's somewhere outside the greater RMNP area...
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>>2072352
false
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>>2071083
hahaha this is like british columbia
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>>2070443
did you know about poopsnatch?
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>>2066884
been there they call it Mommys Pussy
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>>2074689
idiot

What all would it take for me to become partially self sufficient on a couple acres of land? I was thinking of doing the following:
>keeping a small flock of dairy + meat goats
>keeping chickens
>growing a variation of fruit, vegetables and legumes
>beekeeping
>hunting and fishing
Just as a couple of examples. Have any of /out/ had any success with self-sufficient living? I don’t want to be totally dependent on Moshe all my life.
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>>2075219
what i don't get are the 'all or nothing' zealots out there. You don't need to go all swiss family robinson, unless you want to; or see it as an aspirational to work towards.

start small
get a few raised beds and learn to garden; develop your soil and expand each season
start with a few chickens (if you can?) and again, practice and expand as you go.
goats? sure.
cows? why not.

I think what gets people in trouble is seeing it as this monolithic endeavor where they MUST go from suburban comfy to 17th century peasant immediately. the goal should be to a) have a lifestyle you're actually at peace with and b) reduce your reliance on a system/society that is increasingly hostile to you and yours.

that said it's not that hard; and thanks to youtube and similar it's never been easier in all of human history to learn new things.;
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>>2073128
We must have more knife threads in place of larp threads.
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>>2075219
I live in Europe bro, my country wasn’t touched by BLM. I have a genuine interest in it and I figure the best way to learn is by taking small steps. I’m building some raised beds and learning how to grow food on a small scale, then I’ll build a chicken coop and keep some chickens and then get a little pair of goats. Just acquainting myself with these things and learning bit by bit, I am a young man and I’m not running into the woods with a pack on my back. I have my whole professional career ahead of me first. My dream would be to become skilled enough to become self sufficient when I’ve made enough money to do so.

>>2075225
I’m learning what I can step by step. My father is a great carpenter and he has taught me a fair bit about wood working and building.

>>2075229
Ok that ain’t me. I have a longevitive interest in this. I’m willing to put in some work. You can believe that or not, idc.

>>2075232
Thanks for your post, I will definitely do some research. Everything you’ve said makes great sense.

>>2075286
Based. How many years of saving did it take you? What age are you? I’m only 21.


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>>2073124
No one will help you on /out/ honestly your best bet is just starting from scratch and/or watch YouTube videos. The most important part is actually starting instead of just talking about how you want to.
t. LARPs about homesteading
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>>2073124
>keeping a small flock of dairy + meat goats
>keeping chickens

these will make it very hard to become self sufficient, unless you're prepared to dedicate the majority of your acreage to animal feed.

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>be Spain
>be the second most mountaineous country of Europe behind Switzerland
>huge vast unpopulated chunks of forests and ranges, because except Madrid and Zaragoza, the whole of the population lives at the coast
>camping outside of designated zones is forbidden
>wandering outside designated zones is forbidden
>doing anything unless the SEPRONA (land police) allows you to, is forbidden
>using a leaf to wipe your ass in the forest is probably also forbidden (since they cannot extract taxes from it)
>you cannot build a cabin, cannot camp, cannot wander around, cannot make a fire, cannot hunt, cannot shoot guns, cannot even defend yourself of attacks
>basically anything fun is forbidden
>tfw in the USA people just live wherever, and go wherever, and work wherever, and do not have to be asking for permission for everything
>(also health care in Spain sucks so do not start with "yeah but in the USA there are poor junkies that cannot afford surgeries")
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>>2073911
>People work 60 hour weeks for 900 euros
Do you at least get some good gibs out of the state? A lot of burgers work like that here also but even making that much disqualifies you from any state assistance.
>are you allowed to not have a house if you cannot even pay for one and live in your car?
Sort of, but you will get hassled by cops for parking overnight in most places, or robbed by niggers, and if you do it in the woods you can get nailed for squatting on government land.
> rents are like 600 for a small apartment
Thats pretty cheap compared to usa prices. Its at least double that in most cities, triple or quadruple in a really huge city.
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>>2075287
Eh you can buy a house in the usa for $600 a month mortgage but millennials expect everything for free because they claim boomers were given mcmansions at birth
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>>2075292
Yea you can do that if you have good credit in a rural area, after down-payment and closing costs around $8000. My mortgage payment is $700 for a 1950's 3 bedroom brick house on 3/4 acre in eastern oregon. The problem is most small towns don't have good entry level jobs. You can't just move to rural Iowa and buy a house working at some brick and mortar store like you could 40 years ago.
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>>2073911
>People work 60 hour weeks for 900 euros
I wish.

t. Poortugal, 680€/month base salary.

>>2075287
>A lot of burgers work like that here
Americans work for 900 a month?
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>>2075308
Eh home depot in Eastern Oregon starts at $15 an hour and will hire anyone even cripples in wheelchairs




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