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Help find the location of the monolith that the Utah State Police helicopter crew discovered and filmed.
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>getting a job
What a fag.
God I wish. Also a single nuke couldn't achieve that.
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me and my friends erected our own monolith and so far don't think anyone's found it
this is like my recurrent dreams except for the graffiti shit

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Anyone want to go hiking in the Ventura/Los Angeles County area? I primarily hike in or around Cheeseboro and Palo Comado Canyon.
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msg me bb
>several young men found raped and murdered on trail outside of la
>raped and murdered
I prefer
>murdered then raped
>meeting retards from 4chins
That was Elliot Rogers old stomping grounds. These guys might be alright.

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alright /out/, I need some advice.

I live in northern Pennsylvania and the winters here can get pretty cold (sometimes down to -20°F).
I'm looking for a good hat to keep my head+ears warm. I like the style of pic related, but are Fudd hats a larp?
should I consider something else instead?
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Roast me /out/
Hoods are stupid and practically useless.

When you put up a hood on a winter coat, you're creating a wind tunnel for all the cold air to move down your back.
And you basically gain no benefit from a hood other than it makes you look like a thug/jackass, which makes you a target for cops if you wear it in the city.

tdlr, hoods are a gay larp.
You’re too much of a pussy to even buy it. Post a pic when you grow a pair and you walk out of there with fur in your head
I have one made out of grey rabbit and makes my head drench in the coldest weather. Favorite hat.
Real fur or don't bother. Synthetic feels like absolute shit and fails when wet. Not as warm either when dry.
I’m making one right now with either a coyote if I get lucky with my traps or my spare snowshoe skins

Hey /out/, making this post about my experience working at the Y. This was a couple years ago but never really considered how messed up it all was until now, since when I was working there as a teenager I never considered what it'd be like to have MY kids going there. The whole point of this post is to emphasize how the Y is basically a moneymaking operation and noone there really gives a shit about the kids except if some kid is gonna tell their parents something that could spark a lawsuit.
>be me
>work as a camp counselor at a YMCA camp
>my job is to supervise ~10 kids for 1 or 2 week periods, lead them through activities and teach them how to do basic outdoors-stuff
>the camo would also host "international campers" basically rich kids from south america, asia, who would come here to learn how to sail or canoe or whatever
>the big issue when I worked there was that the international campers were often from different social strata as everyone else, or had different cultural norms, and would generally mistreat everyone else
>at one point we had an international camper who sexually assaulted the other kids I was supervising while I was asleep (was late at night)
>when I reported it the admin, the first questions were about how likely itd be that the kids were going to tell their parents
>the kids I was supervising were 11-13 so the admin decided it wasnt a huge issue since they prob wouldnt understand what happened
>took days of nagging to get the aggressor separated from the other kids, and after a few more days (2 week session) the admin tried to re-introduce him to the cabin (because it was expensive for them to keep him separate, and because they couldnt send international campers home)
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If you have kids you don't belong on 4chan and need to fuck off. Having a job is bad enough as it is.

Why are you here?

>decide to read his bullshit
>it's about the pedophile shit
It's a fake witch hunt, that shit is. Feminism created it in the 1970s normalfaggot. Go tell it to your 9k+ fakebook friends.
Did you mean to aim that at the OP because you should have, actual retard.
quints of righteous anticlericalism
I didn’t know summer camps were real. I thought that was just something they made up for TV
>"I didn't know they let faggots take care of children".

What bike are you riding? What are the best fullys on the market?
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There's a reason a lot of new bikes use a 1x anon.
And I'm right about the other thing as well, offering an outright contradiction doesn't provide any meaningful dispute to anything I've said inb4 "but muh frame geometry" yeah and I acknowledged that already, anyone who's ridden with a 26 then gone to a 29 knows how much difference you can feel, anyone who's gone from wide to narrow bars or visa versa knows how that matters.
I ride a trek fuel ex. Havent gone in months though, live in a shitty place for mtbing
Trek 850, of course, with WTF is fairly tall frame. Got off Craigslist for $60 in "needs TLC" condition, mostly flat rotted tires. Front sproc missing few teeth on big ring. Replaced rear sprocket since it was skipping teeth in mid gears with sprocket with extra big lowest gear. Added cheap fenders and front and rear racks.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bike-Cargo-Rack-Bike-Front-Luggage-Rack-Bicycle-Rear-Goods-Carrier-Pannier/373289410549?_ The $15 one.
Gotta add about 3/8" thin wall aluminum pipe from front of rack down to bottom of front forks where the eyelet for front fender mount next to axle so when I add cheap front saddle bags they don't get into the front wheel.

This is mainly a commuter/cargo/touring/loaner/utility build.

Oh, and I added the longest pedal extensions because I've got big wide feet and need to be able to use in work boots or even overshoes.
got some cheap kevlar knobbies and thick inner tubes now but maybe swap out for more street friendly dual purpose "comfort" tires.https://bicyclewarehouse.com/collections/26-inch-bike-tires/products/giant-flatguard-ppt-26-x-1-95-bike-tire.

been having good luck with $1.50 bike lights from Daiso Japan. Same as this but $3 for two instead of $9.https://www.walmart.com/ip/Bell-Sports-METEOR-350-Bicycle-Headlight-Taillight-Set/49706831?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&wl13=1615&&adid=22222222253&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=482766948238&wl4=pla-295222477649&wl5=9032029&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=local&wl12=49706831&wl13=1615&veh=sem&wl18=showcase&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIuI-bpP6l7QIV0xitBh2OlQAzEAQYByABEgKgm_D_BwE
>There's a reason a lot of new bikes use a 1x anon.
Do you even know why you dense retard? Have you ever bothered to try to understand why 1x was adopted and for what specific purposes? Or rather learn as to why you would not want a single chainring? No, of course not.

>And I'm right about the other thing as well
Don't even get me started.

t. former EWS mechanic

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I am going snowshoeing and need a good pair of pants for that. Any recs?
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Jeans do NOT cut it on a midwinter 4000m peak.
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LISTEN TO ME!! I have Mountain Hardware pants, not that it means anything, but get pants with a zipper on the thighs. Mine opens up a hole about 8 inches on my upper leg and it vents heat. It feels good and cuts down on sweat.
I prefer the old bindings but I actually spoke with an msr rep and he said you can send them in and pay for a conversion. They swap not just the binding but the whole crampon as well so it won't be super cheap. Their current service turnaround time is insane though.
You can pass a shoelace through the new binding when it breaks. They designed it this way on purpose.
Why are you wearing snowshoes at that altitude? The only things on your feet at 4000m should be climbing boots and crampons or skis.

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mmm sexy mountain thread
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oh baby i'm hard
This thread has some good ones:
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oppai mountain
I’ve been to the top of that

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What are your thoughts/experiences with using a random wooden stick you find in the forest as a hiking support?
I've been using them all the time recently and I like them a lot.
It's not always easy to find one I like, but they don't have to be perfect, they can be curved, as long as they support your weight.

The way I use them is like trekking poles just one-handed. So i strive with the wooden stick and the opposite foot at the same time. I switch hands every half an hour or just when I feel like it.
It's very useful for when you have easy terrain and you just want to walk fast. It increase the speed with which you can walk and it makes your legs less tired, by shifting some weight on your upper body.
It's also very useful for when you have to go steep up, as you can use it to pull yourself or balance yourself to stop you from falliing.
Even for going downhill it's great, because you can relieve some of the pressure that's put on your knees and once again it helps with balance.
It's also great to get rid of spider webs that are in front of you or clear the path of thorny bushes.
And if you don't need it anymore or you get tired of it you just leave it there, simple as.
If you find a really good one you can even keep it for a next time and carve some things in it or make it more ergonomic.
There's endless possibilities.

Also, the ones I use aren't as thick as the one in the picture, I think they don't need to be as thick if they're out of a hard wood like hazel or oak.
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>thread about random sticks
>internet morons
I pity your childhood development
>What are your thoughts/experiences with using a random wooden stick you find in the forest as a hiking support?
I like it. I usually hike through my own woods so there's a lot of unkempt and rocky terrain (we live near a defunct quarry), so a stick is very helpful when I get closer to the more unstable areas, and a lot of the limbs I find on the outskirts when I start my hikes work great (I usually have to snap off some of the ancillary branches, but that never takes too terribly long).

Plus it makes me feel like a druid, using nature to help traverse nature.
when i was in the scouts id use random sticks as supports all the time, it was fun and it helped me on hikes, still i think that hikes are mostly a excersise and sticks should be used only when youre tired or in the way back from the trail, i liked to put pressure on my body(im a /fit/fag i like gym and sports too), but it was just so fun doing mountain trails with the other scouts, i should actually try to climb one i used to go to...maybe ill go solo this year
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Can any anons ID this wood based on the bark? It's smooth so I'm assuming beech but I'm not exactly an arborist, pretty shitty pic too but I can take more.

Might be better asked in /hgm/ honestly.
Cedar smells nice and is red and anti-bug and such though. They usually have ZERO cedar walking sticks, even canes, and when they have a walking stick it comes up to my center sternum and that's all. I've not even bothered to buy it as it's also finished and you can't smell it if it's finished. It just looks more red if finished, and it's probably not necessary because before it decays it'll snap in half I imagine.

tl;dr: Cedar is hard to come by and the best wood.

Climbing General #15

A place to talk about climbing in any aspect (trad, sport, bouldering, aid, alpine, etc).

Rock Climbing is a dangerous sport that can cause loss of life, limb, eyesight, or sanity.

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Yes, the tendons on your fingers is what takes longer, but you will be making them stronger little by little by just climbing. If you do fingerboarding now you will put too much stress while they're unprepared and you could injure yourself. The rule of thumb is to have at least 2 years of regular climbing behind you before training finger strength specifically.
Hiking is so damn boring unless I have a destination (base of climb, back to car)... Dunno how anyone hikes for the sake of hiking.
Hikers don't have personality
Anyone been to City of rocks in idaho? Headed there next week, hoping to try some multi pitches
If it wasn't for the lack of ladders I would've thought the man was aid climbing

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its a death cap, dont eat it
Yes thats a copelandia cyanscens, dont eat it, not nearly enough to make you trip, use it for spores.
Eat it and report back
It's not just psilocybin though. There's more than one 'magic' chemical.

Why do ignorant right winger invaded boards and sites always project their stupidity and think everyone else is stupid? Just look it up on wikipedia. It's more than 1 shroom and more than one chemical. I know that they didn't know that there was more than 1 chemical and more than two types of shrooms back in the 90s when you last opened a book but stop sporadically calling other people retards for a single day please I am begging you.

Anyone know their stuff when it comes to binoculars? I’m looking to pick a good pair for Black Friday. How much should I realistically spend?
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Unless you have early Parkinson tremors, there’s no reason you should use a tripod with only 10x magnification. >>1943769 and >>1943780 is actual good advice OP, you should take it.
50 mm glass is a bit big in my opinion, even when on the lookout at dusk or dawn, 42mm is plenty good to catch enough light out at sea. Any more than that and you’ll never take them out on hikes for sure.
If you wanna peek at your neighbours across the lake from the comfort of your cabin, you should look into range finders and telescopes, more bang for you bucks if you’re gonna stay stationary.

I have 8x21 for hikes, 7x42 for sailing and
20-60x60 for the range. If I had to get something versatile, I’d get something like 10x30
Roughly 50% of the rifle price is a good rule.
>Unless you have early Parkinson tremors
while i don't have Parkinson i do have poor fine motor control which means i can't hold my hands/fingers as still as most people. using binoculars offhand is not an enjoyable experience.
In that case, you might find that 10x is hard to keep on target if peeping from a boat, which is why marine binocs are 7x, but your mileage may vary. If your heart is set on 10x50, i’m sure you’ll be happy
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there's like bazillion techniques you can use to stabilize your optics
easiest would be to rest your arms against trees or something

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Red pill me on wool /out/. Been wanting get some wool jumpers but most of the brands I've seen are hipster bullshit.
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wool is one of the least weight-efficient materials commonly used. here are some insulation values per material weight:

Cotton .04 clo/oz
Merino wool .084 clo/oz
Polartec 100, 200, 300 series, Classic micro .16 clo/oz
Polartec Thermal Pro high loft Extreme .210 clo/oz
Thinsulate 0.33 clo/oz
Thinsulate Ultra 0.39 clo/oz
Primaloft Eco, .68 clo/oz.
Down (550 fill) .70 clo/oz
Climashield Apex, .82 clo/oz
Coreloft, .82 clo/oz.
Primaloft One, .92 clo/oz.
Down (625 fill), .92 clo/oz.

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this is pretty eye opening as a wool only guy myself. For me it is a big factor that wool is natural and flame retardant (sparks from fire don't melt holes in it), but I didn't know it insulates that badly compared to other materials. It makes me wonder if that is a fair comparison? I'm sure the way the fabric is weaved has a lot to say. Was that taken into account?
>most of the brands I've seen are hipster bullshit.
As opposed to the made for and by Vikings and operators stuff your LARPie fat ass desires?
I don’t know what this numbers mean or where they’re from (wtf kind of unit is clo/oz? The even more retard brother of floz? ;^) ), but I’m inclined to believe the ranking.
However, it seems to me like this is the pure insulation material, so for most stuff (apart from whool) you have to add a shell and some lining, which changes stuff a bit, especially when you want to compete with heavy wool which also has quite a bit of wind and water resistance.
For me, both have their place. Wool as an Allrounder (that has replaced almost all of my fleeces, because micro plastics, and I’m looking into replacing my soft shell too) and down or prinaloft as lightweight and really warm insulation.
Educate yourself.
Clo is a pretty useful unit because noone needs physical insulation values. 1 clo = normal indoor clothing, nice and simple.
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I never use it.

sup fags, i'm lookin for a fairly cheap mummy sleeping bag that is good for maybe 30-50 degree weather. I keep finding ones with shitty zippers, any help?

Can any outist recommend a good DSLR setup?

It is probably time to upgrade my kit entirely. I have a sony alpha with the kit lens and a 55-300mm zoom. It served me well and was a great camera but I really need a better lens.. Would be great if I could keep using the camera body, but I know that will limit my lens choices.

I am looking for something that I can carry with me backpacking, and usually I carry my camera in a camera bag w/ lenses.

Any suggestions anons?
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Can any anons recommend something like a point and shoot camera? Don't want to go DSLR, was always something too big and expensive to want to carry around. Am I better off just using my phone camera?
the Canon Powershot series are really good and also the Ricoh WR cameras are made for out. Good price, totally freeze and water proof, proper optical zoom and other neat-o features and much better quality and form factor than just using your phone camera. If you know a bit about photography and properly utilizing your exposure triangle you'll get way more out a proper camera than with a phone, and have a lot more fun doing it.
Sony RX100, Lumix TZ110.
I’ve got one and have used the other, both pocket size, manual control if you want it, and take a damn nice pic.
They’re basically a small DSLR functionally.
Some new mirrorless you can charge with a power bank
Mirrorless cameras are generally lighter than mirror cameras

The idea of waging my entire life makes me severely depressed to the point where I want to kys. I am in a good program and all, good employment, have decent brain but I cant do this another 40 years. I have enough money for a Mercedes Sprinter. I want to convert it, live in it and just take it easy surviving primitively and exploring Europe and beyond world with my dog.

How long do you think I can live in one before waging seems the better alternative?
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have you considered working at national parks? When i visit yosemite they have a bunch of people who work the season. They seem genuinely happy also i see nearby hotels that look for workers as well and pay with free room and board.
Nope, those people are wageslaves who have to work, I refuse to work because boomers were given everything when they were born. It's not fair that they were given good jobs so they could get free houses. Some say that my choice in life is bad but what's the big deal of shitting in a bucket and eating dumpster food no thanks I'm not working when boomers got everything for free
>Lots of stress and idle time
doing what? compared to what?
working isn't too bad at all as long as you like the people you work with. If you don't like your co-workers, it's like living in hell. The secret is to take full advantage of your days off and vacation time. Working 250 days a year and then sitting around the house on your 115 days off makes it seem like all you do is work. So get out twice a month or more and you'll still be enjoying life, but you can actually afford the shit you want too.
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>It's not fair

kek, you're just a loser anon

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