Hows this edit looking /p/. Feels like its not reached its potential, and a bit too overcooked but I'm having trouble finding the balance. It was shot on porta 400 on my leaky FM2.
Gotta agree on the underexposure. Portra is pretty forgiving, especially if you overexpose, but with regards to film, in general, you're best exposing for the shadows. If you underexpose too much, you're not going to be able to recover from that mottled, noisy grain, and colors will be washed out. With digital, you shoot to the right, or expose for the highlights due to clipping, but for film, you can go pretty far right without completely killing the highlights.
tone down the colors and make them match the light in the scene
>>3800194Not entirely true in the digital age of scans. Overexposure could be saved in a darkroom very easily by upping the time on the enlarger. With a scanner, you run into issues with having too dense of a negative and the resulting image losing lots of contrast. The best result is always going to be a properly exposed negative, not some arbitrary under/overexposure.
>>3800108My guess is Morocco
>>3800074>and lost the detail in the floor and buildings.I don't think film is for youor rather, if you needed the detail you shouldn't be shooting 35mm but 120those buildings are just white walls, nobody will care to see just how much the paint is cracked or shit smeared from roof poopers, same for the completely uninteresting floor.your subject is a man from behind (already at the limit of uninteresting), only barely viable thanks to lucky contrast with the green carpet and being set in an exotic alley.That's what your photo is about and what you should (over)expose for.Not the fucking white walls or stupid floor.
What kind of flash does /p/ use on her camera? I want something that can keep up with my EOS M6 Mark II's 14 fps bursts for when I am photographing my cat. How can I buy one that does this?[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Image-Specific Properties:Image Width600Image Height310
I grabbed one of these for pretty cheap and got good results. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FKDFLNK
>>3800160>2021>paying beijing bezos money for chinkshit electronicslol, no
>>3800162>2021 >Confusing /p/ with /pol/
>>3800173/pol/ doesn't talk about photography equipment, but okay
Godox V1 (with the Godox x-pro external trigger).Mostly because it has a rechargable Li-Ion battery instead of AA-cells.
>starting a digishit thread with a 2.8MB pngall noisy blown out frayed shit welcome
panasonic FX150. I think this is one of the nicest camera that still qualifies as digishit. The manual mode is shit but in the right lighting you can get some decent shots>14mp CCD[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Equipment MakePanasonicCamera ModelDMC-FX150Camera SoftwareGIMP 2.10.8Maximum Lens Aperturef/2.8Sensing MethodOne-Chip Color AreaFocal Length (35mm Equiv)45 mmImage-Specific Properties:Image OrientationTop, Left-HandHorizontal Resolution180 dpiVertical Resolution180 dpiImage Created2021:01:15 19:08:18Exposure Time1/250 secF-Numberf/3.5Exposure ProgramManualISO Speed Rating100Exposure Bias0 EVMetering ModeSpotLight SourceUnknownFlashNo Flash, CompulsoryFocal Length9.60 mmColor Space InformationsRGBImage Width4416Image Height3312RenderingNormalExposure ModeManualScene Capture TypeStandardGain ControlNoneSaturationNormalSharpnessNormalSpot ModeUnknownAudioNoColor EffectOffContrastStandardFlash Bias0.00 EVFocus ModeAutoImage StabilizerMode 1Macro ModeNormalNoise ReductionStandardImage QualityUnknownShooting ModeManualWhite BalanceAuto
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>>3799049all sooc[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Equipment MakePanasonicCamera ModelDMC-FX150Camera SoftwareGIMP 2.10.8Maximum Lens Aperturef/2.8Sensing MethodOne-Chip Color AreaFocal Length (35mm Equiv)62 mmImage-Specific Properties:Image OrientationTop, Left-HandHorizontal Resolution180 dpiVertical Resolution180 dpiImage Created2021:01:15 19:22:52Exposure Time1/640 secF-Numberf/4.2Exposure ProgramManualISO Speed Rating100Exposure Bias0 EVMetering ModeSpotLight SourceUnknownFlashNo Flash, CompulsoryFocal Length13.30 mmColor Space InformationsRGBImage Width4416Image Height3312RenderingNormalExposure ModeManualScene Capture TypeStandardGain ControlNoneSaturationNormalSharpnessNormalSpot ModeUnknownAudioNoColor EffectOffContrastStandardFlash Bias0.00 EVFocus ModeAutoImage StabilizerMode 1Macro ModeNormalNoise ReductionStandardImage QualityUnknownShooting ModeManualWhite BalanceAuto
Not sure you guys got the memo but just because your camera's shit, doesn't mean your photos should be shit.
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I own one of those low grade, cheap Canon 1100D bodies. I like to extensively edit my raw files, problem with this camera is that the sensor is trash. Not only the corners are tinted, every part of the image is, with different colors mind you. When I have to really bring stuff up, it's noticable. I heard that sensor calibration is used to mitigate this, any idea how to do that on this particular body?
>>3798218This. Get a Nikon D6.
The sensor is fine and probably a lot better than you. desu.Tripod, proper exposure (follow your histogram), bracketing.
>>3798149>Not only the corners are tinted, every part of the image is, with different colors mind you. When I have to really bring stuff up, it's noticable.You are going to have to post an example picture because I have no idea what exactly you are trying to explain.Are you talking about color noise in the shadows if you push your exposure too much?>the corners are tintedCorrect for vignetting in your raw processor.
>>3798149capture one has icc profiles. take a photo with the lens cap on for blacks, a photo of an evenly lit white surface, and get a colorite passport.
>>3798149I have the same peoblem Different colors all over like The sky is blue, trees green white clouds wtfU need a superior snoy camera
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>>3787047> Maybe I will replace them with a RX100VII for travelingDont, shits fradgile AF. It breaks easier then anything I used.
>>3799393Enjoy getting bits of dust stuck in the ring serrations. fujiscum.
whats ring serrations?
>>3799393>8-16>actually goes from 16 to 8
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We need to talk.
damn i didnt know fuji was aps-cthanks for the info op
>>3795580This. Every single one of you is a retarded autistic faggot
>>3795500holy based
>>3795504Burn.
>>3795571BOOBA
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>>3800176[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Equipment MakeCanonCamera ModelCanon EOS 6D Mark IICamera SoftwareAdobe Lightroom 6.1.0 (iOS)Maximum Lens Aperturef/4.0Image-Specific Properties:Horizontal Resolution300 dpiVertical Resolution300 dpiImage Created2021:01:17 21:04:34Exposure Time1/125 secF-Numberf/4.0Exposure ProgramNormal ProgramISO Speed Rating12800Lens Aperturef/4.0Exposure Bias0 EVMetering ModePatternFlashNo Flash, CompulsoryFocal Length200.00 mmColor Space InformationsRGBRenderingNormalExposure ModeAutoWhite BalanceAutoScene Capture TypeStandard
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What cheap camera is better than the greatest smartphone cameras?
Any of them since you get to wear a khaki colored vest and backwards beret when shooting.
>>3800181Fpbp
>>3800170>Tzuyu poster on /p/Based.To answer you question: A used Sony Alpha 7 Mk1 is very cheap and will probably blow any smartphone camera out of the water given you know how to properly user an actual camera.
drop your all-time, in photography history, favorite facial portraits...............[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Image-Specific Properties:Image Width1500Image Height1983
>>3798894sadly that he never got to shoot with tay tay swift...just think how killer it would have been if Uncle came all over her face \m/
>>3798448used iphone
why is there no nudity in this here thread?
did she >>>/b/845078804 really???
pdf?
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i love 1.4s but i usually shoot at 2.8-4
>>3799801You don't usually buy a 1.4 to shoot at 1.4 all the time, you buy it because it lets more light in to focus and compose before a shot, and the 1.4 and faster lenses are built better (optically and mechanically) than the cheaper ones with slower apertures. Same applies to 2.8 consistent aperture zooms vs variable aperture kit and superzoom lenses.
>>3799805i prefer manual aperture
>>3798302These tests are misleading if they use a low res camera.
>>3799814>i prefer manual apertureDon’t let anyone catch you aperturing in public.
• Theme: Rule of Thirds• Deadline: From January 6 to January 20Help yourself with rule of thirds in your composition.Rules:• Photo must be taken during the timeline. Images taken before this thread was started won't count.• Post images with exif, if possible. If you can't, just state that they were taken during the timeline.• Three entries max.• After the competition ends, all valid images will be posted for voting. There will be one vote per anon.• You're encouraged to post your images that fit the theme even if they're out of competition.
this is rule of thirds right?[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Equipment MakeFUJIFILMCamera ModelX100FCamera SoftwareGIMP 2.10.22PhotographerYves LongpresMaximum Lens Aperturef/2.0Sensing MethodOne-Chip Color AreaMaker Note Version0130Image-Specific Properties:Image OrientationTop, Left-HandHorizontal Resolution300 dpiVertical Resolution300 dpiImage Created2021:01:16 20:19:14Exposure Time1/30 secF-Numberf/2.0Exposure ProgramManualISO Speed Rating12800Lens Aperturef/2.0Brightness-3.0 EVExposure Bias-0.3 EVMetering ModeAverageLight SourceUnknownFlashFlashFocal Length23.00 mmRenderingCustomExposure ModeManualWhite BalanceAutoScene Capture TypeStandardSharpnessNormalSubject Distance RangeUnknownBlur StatusBlur WarningChroma SaturationUnknownContinuous/Bracketing ModeOffAuto Exposure StatusOKFlash ModeUnknownFocus ModeManualFocus StatusOKPicture ModeManual ExposureSharpnessNormalSlow Synchro ModeOffWhite BalanceAuto
>>3799666I'll allow it!
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>>3796036>>3796037My third and final entry.[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Equipment MakeNIKON CORPORATIONCamera ModelNIKON Z 6Camera SoftwareAdobe Photoshop 21.2 (Windows)Sensing MethodOne-Chip Color AreaColor Filter Array Pattern918Focal Length (35mm Equiv)102 mmImage-Specific Properties:Image OrientationTop, Left-HandHorizontal Resolution300 dpiVertical Resolution300 dpiImage Created2021:01:17 19:41:16Exposure Time1/160 secF-Numberf/4.8Exposure ProgramManualISO Speed Rating500Lens Aperturef/4.8Exposure Bias0 EVMetering ModeSpotLight SourceUnknownFlashNo FlashFocal Length68.00 mmColor Space InformationUncalibratedImage Width1500Image Height844RenderingCustomExposure ModeManualWhite BalanceAutoScene Capture TypeStandardGain ControlNoneContrastNormalSaturationNormalSharpnessNormalSubject Distance RangeUnknown
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Here is a photo taken with the most dogshit camera ever, a Smena 8M, using the cheapest piece of shit film I've ever seen ,fuji c200, and yet I've captured a better image with more emotion and visual interest than the entirety of /pee/ has in their entire lifetime.Discuss your miserable life choices.
Yeah definitely, choosing an old soviet cam and analog film as your gear didn't matter at all.
I find it really funny that there are so many people disagreeing with me but not a single person has any photos to prove their opinion./pee/ really is all bark and no bite
>>3800033>suggesting the use of subjective content to settle an objective argumentWhat did you mean by this?
>>3800043>Doesnt post a photoWhat are you even doing here?
>>3800062>nophoto posting "nophoto" in a nophoto threadOP said to discuss not to compare:>>3799437>Discuss your miserable life choices.
>See some chads doing awesome street photography online>Go for a walk for one hour with my film camera>Take one picture>Go homeAm I the only retard struggling at this ? Or is street photography a huge meme ?
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>>3800156your life is sad anon
>>3800177Lmao he’s deleting his posts what a clown.
>>3800182the jannies are doing this you retard. apparently posting pictures of blacks masturbating and shitting on the street is racism now.[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Equipment MakeNIKON CORPORATIONCamera ModelNIKON Z 7Camera SoftwareAdobe Photoshop Lightroom Classic 9.4 (Windows)Sensing MethodOne-Chip Color AreaColor Filter Array Pattern860Focal Length (35mm Equiv)135 mmImage-Specific Properties:Horizontal Resolution240 dpiVertical Resolution240 dpiImage Created2021:01:17 23:33:51Exposure Time1/160 secF-Numberf/1.8Exposure ProgramAperture PriorityISO Speed Rating220Lens Aperturef/1.8Exposure Bias0 EVMetering ModePatternLight SourceUnknownFlashNo FlashFocal Length135.00 mmColor Space InformationsRGBRenderingCustomExposure ModeAutoWhite BalanceAutoScene Capture TypeStandardGain ControlNoneContrastNormalSaturationNormalSharpnessNormalSubject Distance RangeUnknown
>>3800184[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Equipment MakeNIKON CORPORATIONCamera ModelNIKON Z 7Camera SoftwareAdobe Photoshop Lightroom Classic 9.4 (Windows)Sensing MethodOne-Chip Color AreaColor Filter Array Pattern860Focal Length (35mm Equiv)135 mmImage-Specific Properties:Horizontal Resolution240 dpiVertical Resolution240 dpiImage Created2021:01:18 00:11:49Exposure Time1/160 secF-Numberf/1.8Exposure ProgramAperture PriorityISO Speed Rating3200Lens Aperturef/1.8Exposure Bias0 EVMetering ModePatternLight SourceUnknownFlashNo FlashFocal Length135.00 mmColor Space InformationsRGBRenderingCustomExposure ModeAutoWhite BalanceAutoScene Capture TypeStandardGain ControlLow Gain UpContrastNormalSaturationNormalSharpnessNormalSubject Distance RangeUnknown
This is the noobfriendly space. Since this board is 80% gear and 20% people getting shat on for posting photos I created this thread for people that just want to shoot some photos and show them to others.[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Image-Specific Properties:
>>3799742Man, that looks shit when I upload it, looks totally different to the screenshot I just took.
>>3782814What about this? Do you understand this picture?
>>3785030i think it's supposed to be a joke about gearfags being reddiors
I took this with the Nikon N5005 with 35-70mm lens. I like how it gives a nostaglic feel, but then again it's made like early 1990's, but works very well IMO.[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Equipment MakeNORITSU KOKICamera ModelEZ ControllerCamera SoftwareEZ Controller 6.80.010 (180808)Image-Specific Properties:Image OrientationTop, Left-HandHorizontal Resolution72 dpiVertical Resolution72 dpiColor Space InformationsRGBImage Width3089Image Height2048
>>3800147Same park, same day
Do you think one day in the future, people will recreationally take space /p/hotography? Like consumers can launch or pay for access to a camera system in space and have like Hubble telescope level access to photography in space? Will there be thots on instagram taking shots of Rigel-7 and throwing a dumb glossy filter on it for their profile? Is this a likely route of events?
>>3799727you already have heavy restrictions on flying remote controlled stuff (drones):https://app.airmap.com/no fucking way are we going to be allowed to launch rockets and fill space with even more space debris.more likely we will just hire time on group funded telescopes/imaging satelites.
>>3799727Based
>>3799752Who do you think will be the first to launch such a service?
