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https://www.nationalreview.com/news/biden-administration-imposes-travel-ban-on-eight-african-nations-amid-omicron-variant/
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>>969324
biden don't want no blacks in his swimming pool. just ask CornPop!
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>>969324

Is Let's Go Brandon beating on blacks with a chain again????
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>>969324
Fuck racist JB and Democrats.
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>>969324
isn't this considered really racist?
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>>969324
uhoh! was it wrong he did that? kek

In Michigan, local GOP leaders have sought to reshape election canvassing boards by appointing members who expressed sympathy for former president Donald Trump’s false claims that the 2020 vote was rigged.

In two Pennsylvania communities, candidates who embraced election fraud allegations won races this month to become local voting judges and inspectors.

And in Colorado, 2020 doubters are urging their followers on conservative social media platforms to apply for jobs in election offices.

A year after local and state election officials came under immense pressure from Trump to subvert the results of the 2020 White House race, he and his supporters are pushing an ambitious plan to place Trump loyalists in key positions across the administration of U.S. elections.

The effort goes far beyond the former president’s public broadsides against well-known Republican state officials who certified President Biden’s victory, such as Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger and Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey. Citing the need to make elections more secure, Trump allies are also seeking to replace officials across the nation, including volunteer poll watchers, paid precinct judges, elected county clerks and state attorneys general, according to state and local officials, as well as rally speeches, social media posts and campaign appearances by those seeking the positions.

>If they succeed, Trump and his allies could pull down some of the guardrails that prevented him from overturning Biden’s win by creating openings to challenge the results next time, election officials and watchdog groups say.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-allies-election-oversight/2021/11/28/3933b3ce-4227-11ec-9ea7-3eb2406a2e24_story.html
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>>970533

Whatever you have to do Trump, do it! Americans are with you since you stand up for freedom and the 99%!
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>>972830
>Trump is still the real legit President.
fact checkers say this is TRUE
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>>972627
>▶
>>972627
>>972830
>>972830
>>973259
>>973377
look like WinRed has been targeting /news/ again
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>>973377
>>Trump is still the real legit President.
>fact checkers say this is TRUE
everyone says it is true, except the rich 1% left and fake President Brandon's handlers.
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>>970533
>TRUMP DID THING NOOOOOOO HE CANT DO THIS TRUMPY TRUMP TRUMP RENT FREE LIVING NOOOOOOO!!!!!
cope

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/nov/29/trump-press-democrats-debate-electoral-fraud-lie-schiff-meadows-capitol-attack
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>>973883
>>973925
It's because we are just now finding out about the extent of the horrible crimes Trump committed while in office.
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>>973883
>president trump generates 24% of the threads on this board, current white house resident biden is only worth 11% of /news/. trump commands that much more attention even when he is sitting on the sidelines, thats how much more dynamic and significant trump is.

Because Americans LOVE TRUMP!
MAGA! MAGA!
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>>969675
Let's Go Brandon
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>>973930
>>973932
Shouldn't you be receiving your daily talking points from Tucker Carlson right now instead of shitposting on /news/?
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>>969675

Anyone considered that Trump might actually be the second son of God and a descendant of Abraham?
The man keeps on winning and fighting evil!

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>Former State Department Employee Sentenced to Federal Prison for Embezzling more than $150,000 from Department of Defense

Foreigners turn out to be untrustworthy embezzlers, now the government has to pay to keep foreigners who never should have been here in the first place - and who wouldn't have been if not for the possibility of employment with the federal government - in prison.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sc/pr/former-state-department-employee-sentenced-federal-prison-embezzling-more-150000
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>>970783

Why not? CHINA OWNS and paid off most US politicians now.
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>>972671
>Why not? CHINA OWNS and paid off most US politicians now.
based
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>>970783
Since the US government is owned by China and no longer considered legitimate by much of the US, what do people expect?
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>>970783
>Trump employee is a criminal
I'm shocked, SHOCKED
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>>971325
>Foreigners turn out to be untrustworthy embezzlers, now the government has to pay to keep foreigners who never should have been here in the first place
>Sounds like standard American liberal policy..
>Gotta save cash in the short run by hiring non-citizens and fuck the back end, who cares if they embezzle or steal secrets, at least we saved money hiring them

yep, fucking rich 1% globalist left destroying everything, on purpose.

https://people.com/politics/mark-kelly-and-gabby-giffords-welcome-first-grandchild/

>Ex-DuPage Democratic official Mary Lemanski apologizes for tweeting that karma linked Waukesha tragedy, Rittenhouse verdict. ‘Ashamed of my behavior.’

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-dupage-county-mary-lemanski-twitter-kyle-rittenhouse-apology-20211123-2c3p4r74tffbbbfae26halg6gy-story.html
baizuo bitch hates white folks even though she is white herself.

Mary Lemanski, the former Democratic Party of DuPage County social media director, apologized for her comments on Twitter that caused backlash across the social media platform and cost Lemanski her job Monday.
Lemanski drew the attention of various media outlets and pundits after posting a series of tweets linking Kyle Rittenhouse to the driver of an SUV that sped through barricades and struck dancers, musicians and others during a Waukesha, Wisconsin, Christmas parade that left five dead and 40 injured.
“I realize how hateful and hurtful my comments were, and I am truly sorry for the division and suffering I have caused,” Lemanski said via email Tuesday. “As a person who is generally always working for peace and harmony, I am ashamed of my behavior, and I hope the people of Waukesha will find healing and peace in the wake of this horrible event.”
In the original series of tweets, which Lemanski deleted early Monday morning before deactivating her entire Twitter account later the same day, she tweeted, “It was probably just self-defense #Wisconsin #KyleRittenhouse.”
Lemanski also tweeted that karma “came around quick on the citizens of Wisconsin.”
Lemanski said she started tweeting the comments in question very early Monday, about 2 a.m. In the morning, she said, she quickly realized the mistake she had made and regretted bringing the Waukesha tragedy into the discussion about the Rittenhouse verdict.
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>>973601
What in your mind is this supposed to prove?
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>>973772
Was it an entire list of the moderation team? What was the source of the leak?
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>>973602
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations
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>>973772
>Mary was the victim of an doxxation delivered on /pol/ a few weeks ago. This is the fallout from that.
>Mary was the first one on the list to have suffered, so with her public humiliation, everyone else on that list with Mary is now aware that there are consequences heading their way.

The coming common sense backlash to all this woke nonsense is going to be absolutely delicious
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>>973853
It was only 4chan staff who were also affiliated with the Democratic party and their associates and family members, there are a good number of disgruntled Seth Rich types amongst the Democrats and they are the source of information.
How do you think PV is able to drop massive bombs every week or so? They get help from the Seth Riches

https://www.chron.com/news/article/Bitcoin-trial-Defendant-wins-keeps-Bitcoins-16679375.php
NEW YORK (AP) — Craig Wright, a computer scientist who claims to be the inventor of Bitcoin, prevailed in a civil trial verdict Monday against the family of a deceased business partner that claimed it was owed half of a cryptocurrency fortune worth tens of billions.

A Florida jury found that Wright did not owe half of 1.1 million Bitcoin to the family of David Kleiman. The jury did award $100 million in intellectual property rights to a joint venture between the two men, a fraction of what Kleiman's lawyers were asking for at trial.
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bumping for real news
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He still doesn't have access to Satoshi's wallet.
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Ok so is or isn't BTC created by abc groups to track criminal transactions?
Story even glows some, Craig who did what with who when???????? oh yeah of course we all know about that dur right he's that big millionaire computer guy
he's totally not a plant
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>>973806
>created by abc groups to track criminal transactions?
You're thinking of TOR
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>>973819
both lol

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tl;dr: the school district itself could be found liable in court in the same way the shooter's parents are.
>The day after sophomore Ethan Crumbley was seen searching online for ammunition, a teacher found a disturbing drawing of a bloody figure in his desk.

>"The thoughts won't stop," read the note, which included a drawing of a gun, a bullet and a bleeding victim. "Help me."

>Concerned school administrators called in Crumbley's parents for a meeting and ordered the parents to find counseling for their son within 48 hours. But no one from the school searched the 15-year-old's backpack, where a semiautomatic handgun was stashed at one point, officials say. Hours later, they say, Crumbley pulled the gun from the bag and turned it on his fellow classmates in Oxford, Mich., killing four.

>Now, even as the community grieves, questions are emerging about what administrators knew immediately before the shooting and whether the school shares responsibility for the tragic events. Among the unknowns: Could the district be considered liable in criminal or civil court?

>Oakland County Prosecutor Karen McDonald (D) said she has not ruled out prosecuting school officials.

>"The investigation is ongoing," she said at a news conference Friday.

>"Any individual who had the opportunity to stop this tragedy should have done so," she added. "The question is what did they know and when did they know it."


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>>973796
>a sort of police-like security force
you're going to have to clarify here, because as it is this sounds like you either want a PMC for schools or volunteer "militia" types to wait around hoping for a school shooting to start so they can legally shoot people.
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Just get rid of the guns. Problem solved. We dont need guns in 2022.
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>>973810
you know, im just throwing stuff at the wall here... no claims to be knowledgable or anything.

>wait around hoping for a school shooting to start so they can legally shoot people.
well i wasn't thinking of a private military company (if that's what PMC stands for) but rather a branch of your local police department.
but your scenario makes me think that maybe adding more guns to the situation isn't the best idea anyway.

i'm at a loss and have no idea what the solution is. but yeah just felt like i'd clarify my suggestion involved just having the police at schools at all times instead of having to drive to the scene after responding to calls.
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>>973812
Invent something that makes them obsolete like phasers or light sabers or something.
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>>973428
My principal in middle school got beat up regularly by people he was trying to search for weed. His car was also set on fire.

'Absolute liars': Ex-D.C. Guard official says generals lied to Congress about Jan. 6

In a 36-page memo to the Capitol riot committee, Col. Earl Matthews also slams the Pentagon's inspector general for what he calls an error-ridden report.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/12/06/jan-6-generals-lied-ex-dc-guard-official-523777
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>>973611

https://files.catbox.moe/9yj4lt.jpg
This ain't Insurrection/pandemic, this is GENOCIDE!
As they pulled you out of the oxygen tent
You asked for the latest party
With your silicone hump and your ten inch stump
Dressed like a priest you was
Todd Browning's freak you was
Crawling down the alley on your hands and knee
I'm sure you're not protected, for it's plain to see
as you aint wearin' no mask as you hide behind a tree
Hunt you to the ground they will, pigs with kill appeal
I'll keep a friend serene
(Will they come?)

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>>973760
Bowie was a seer(sucker)
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>>973597
>FBI and army both say Jan6 wasn't a coup
>REEEEE! Stalinist!
>(But Stalin did nothing wrong)
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>>973611
Nice try pussyfart.
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>>973611
Kek

Trump SPAC under investigation by financial regulators

The publicly traded company that plans to merge with former president Donald Trump’s media company is under investigation by two federal regulators, which have asked for stock trading information and communications.

Digital World Acquisition Corp., known as DWAC, disclosed in a Securities and Exchange Commission filing that it had received “certain preliminary, fact-finding inquiries” from the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority in late October and early November regarding stock trading tied to the merger agreement announced Oct. 20.

Separately, the SEC asked for information related to meetings of the company’s board of directors, information on investors, and communications, according to the filing.

The company said its filing should not be construed as an indication that either agency has concluded anyone violated the law. Spokespeople for DWAC and Trump did not immediately respond Monday to requests for comment.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/12/06/trump-space-sec-investigation/
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>>973763
It worked for me
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>>973682
Do you understand that Trump committed crimes?
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>>973763
got enough for all of them?
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>>973778
>>973763
>Take psycho meds
>Call other people crazy
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>>973831
Do you understand you can't just accuse someone of committing crimes, you need to prove it with evidence?

Do you also understand that op-eds from WaPo and NYT are not evidence?

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ATLANTA (AP) — Two Georgia election workers filed a defamation lawsuit Thursday against a conservative website, accusing it of knowingly publishing and spreading false stories saying they engaged in ballot fraud during the 2020 general election.

Fulton County elections workers Ruby Freeman and Wandrea “Shaye” Moss, a mother and daughter, filed the lawsuit against The Gateway Pundit, its owner Jim Hoft and his brother Joe Hoft, a contributor to the site. Among other things, the lawsuit says the website and the Hofts conducted a “campaign of lies” that led to online and in-person harassment against the two women.

The falsehoods “have not only devastated their personal and professional reputations but instigated a deluge of intimidation, harassment, and threats that has forced them to change their phone numbers, delete their online accounts, and fear for their physical safety,” the lawsuit says

In response to a call to a cellphone number listed for Jim Hoft, The Associated Press received a text message saying, “Sorry, I can’t talk now.” No one responded to a voicemail or text message sent to that number. A working number for Joe Hoft could not be located. No one responded immediately to a request for comment sent through an online form on The Gateway Pundit’s website.

Angered by his narrow loss in a traditionally Republican state, former President Donald Trump focused intense scrutiny on Georgia, making unproven claims that widespread fraud there led to his loss in the state.
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>gatewaypundit being sued for defamation
fucking hilarious
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>>973401
>rightist media sent violent magadrones to her grandma's house
These terrorists aren't fooling around. Scary shit.
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>>973551
it couldn't happen to a nicer clickbait merchant
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>>973551
Surprised it hasn't happened sooner given they tried to run that smear operation against Mueller by paying women to make false rape allegations against him.
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>>973781
Jim Hoft has been sued multiple times since 2018; by the Parkland shooting victims and by Dominion Voting Systems. The elite 1% billionaires who fund him always bail him out, no matter how large a settlement they are forced to make. It's the cost of being in the propaganda business for them.

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/rohingya-refugees-sue-facebook-150-billion-over-myanmar-violence-2021-12-07/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zg5wVi3ptI
>Rohingya refugees from Myanmar are suing Meta Platforms Inc (FB.O), formerly known as Facebook, for $150 billion over allegations that the social media company did not take action against anti-Rohingya hate speech that contributed to violence.
A U.S. class-action complaint, filed in California on Monday by law firms Edelson PC and Fields PLLC, argues that the company's failures to police content and its platform's design contributed to real-world violence faced by the Rohingya community.
In a coordinated action, British lawyers also submitted a letter of notice to Facebook's London office.
Facebook did not immediately respond to a Reuters request for comment about the lawsuit. The company has said it was "too slow to prevent misinformation and hate" in Myanmar and has said it has since taken steps to crack down on platform abuses in the region, including banning the military from Facebook and Instagram after the Feb. 1 coup.
Facebook has said it is protected from liability over content posted by users by a U.S. internet law known as Section 230, which holds that online platforms are not liable for content posted by third parties. The complaint says it seeks to apply Myanmar law to the claims if Section 230 is raised as a defense.
Although U.S. courts can apply foreign law to cases where the alleged harms and activity by companies took place in other countries, two legal experts interviewed by Reuters said they did not know of a successful precedent for foreign law being invoked in lawsuits against social media companies where Section 230 protections could apply.
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>>973786
... Anupam Chander, a professor at Georgetown University Law Center, said that invoking Myanmar law wasn't "inappropriate." But he predicted that "it's unlikely to be successful," saying that "it would be odd for Congress to have foreclosed actions under U.S. law but permitted them to proceed under foreign law."
More than 730,000 Rohingya Muslims fled Myanmar's Rakhine state in August 2017 after a military crackdown that refugees said included mass killings and rape. Rights groups documented killings of civilians and burning of villages.
Myanmar authorities say they were battling an insurgency and deny carrying out systematic atrocities.
A Myanmar junta spokesman did not answer phone calls from Reuters seeking comment on the legal action against Facebook.
In 2018, U.N. human rights investigators said the use of Facebook had played a key role in spreading hate speech that fueled the violence. A Reuters investigation that year, cited in the U.S. complaint, found more than 1,000 examples of posts, comments and images attacking the Rohingya and other Muslims on Facebook.
The International Criminal Court has opened a case into the accusations of crimes in the region. In September, a U.S. federal judge ordered Facebook to release records of accounts connected to anti-Rohingya violence in Myanmar that the social media giant had shut down.
The new class-action lawsuit references claims by Facebook whistleblower Frances Haugen, who leaked a cache of internal documents this year, that the company does not police abusive content in countries where such speech is likely to cause the most harm.
The complaint also cites recent media reports, including a Reuters report last month, that Myanmar's military was using fake social media accounts to engage in what is widely referred to in the military as "information combat."
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>>973788
... Mohammed Taher, a refugee living in the sprawling Bangladesh camps that are home to more than a million Rohingya, said Facebook had been widely used to spread anti-Rohingya propaganda. "We welcome the move," he said by phone.
Other sources: https://www.businessinsider.com/rohingya-refugees-sue-facebook-150-billion-myanmar-genocide-2021-12
https://www.voanews.com/a/rohingya-refugees-sue-facebook-for-150-billion-over-myanmar-violence/6342430.html
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-59558090
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>>973786
Good for them. They will probably have more luck in British court

A Columbia University grad student stabbed to death in Morningside Park desperately cried out for help before collapsing, part of a horrifying random attack caught on video, according to new court papers.

“Help, I have been stabbed!” 30-year-old Davide Giri exclaimed as he stumbled off after being fatally knifed in the gut, a criminal complaint filed in Manhattan Criminal Court revealed.

Chilling surveillance video shows Giri, who was from Italy, being approached from behind and stabbed in the Upper Manhattan park near Columbia’s campus shortly before 11 p.m. during a 20-minute rampage that also wounded another Italian man, the document says.

The injured victim had just arrived in the city as a “visiting scholar” at Columbia, the school said.

The surveillance footage “depicts a man wearing a red hoodie under a dark jacket approach Davide Giri from behind, make a stabbing motion, and then Giri runs away” before falling to the ground, the complaint says.

Minutes later, the man in the same red hoodie and jacket stabbed the Italian scholar “in the torso multiple times,” the document says. The victim was hospitalized for “several stab wounds to the back and toros including one that punctured his internal organs.

Vincent Pinkney was arrested for allegedly stabbing a person unprovoked on W. 110th Street at Morningside Drive in New York, NY around 11 p.m. on December 2, 2021

https://nypost.com/2021/12/05/dying-columbia-student-davide-giri-cried-for-help-after-being-stabbed-by-reputed-gangbanger/
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Cops also arrested Sylvester King, 33, of Freeport, L.I., in the Nov. 25 death of a 36-year-old homeless man stabbed in the chest near the Long Island Rail Road entrance at Seventh Ave. and 33rd St.

King has a lengthy criminal record, and has served three stints in state prison since 2007 — one for weapon possession, and the other two for drug dealing, public records show. He was released from prison in April after serving 18 months for an attempted sale of a controlled substance.

Most recently, King was busted on drug sale and robbery charges in September, though the disposition of those cases and whether bail was set wasn’t immediately known Monday night.
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A homeless man charged with beating a guy last year was dumped back on the street thanks to so-called bail reform, only to allegedly pummel two women in Upper West Side attacks Thursday — and be freed again.
Darrell Johnson, 23, left one of his random female victims so brutally beaten that she suffered a “disfiguring laceration” to her face, law-enforcement sources told The Post on Monday.Last year, Johnson — who has more than a dozen arrests on his rap sheet dating to 2014, according to sources — was hit with assault and harassment charges in the man’s beatdown.He allegedly punched his victim “about the face with a closed fist multiple times” in a Harlem building, according to a court complaint.
Johnson then allegedly “used his feet to kick and stomp” the man in the Aug. 3, 2020, attack.
But a Manhattan judge had to release him without bail because none of the charges were eligible for the restriction under revamped state laws. Before the laws were changed, judges could use their discretion on setting bail.Then with that case still pending, Johnson was back on the street — where he allegedly approached a 50-year-old woman at Broadway and West 79th Street in Manhattan around 9:20 a.m. Thursday and assaulted her in a “violent, unprovoked” attack, sources said.The victim was so brutally beaten that sources said she suffered a “disfiguring laceration” to her face in the attack.Just three minutes later, Johnson allegedly assaulted another woman a block away.
In that incident, court records allege that Johnson walked up to the 32-year-old victim on West 80th Street and began punching her in the face, causing “redness and swelling,” according to the complaint.
In court Friday, Manhattan prosecutors recommended that Johnson be released under supervised monitoring for the attacks on the women, a request the judge granted.
A rep for the DA’s office said none of the charges were harsh enough to allow the judge to order Johnson held on bail.
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>>973402
>Bernard Goetz

Where are the heroes today?
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Man bloodied after brutal attack in Midtown subway station

A man was severely beaten with his head bleeding after a fight on the northbound platform of the 49th Street station, which serves the N and R trains, an MTA spokesperson said.

A man was arrested after leaving another man bloodied during a fight on a Midtown subway platform Friday afternoon, officials said.

The altercation between the two men broke out at around 3:20 p.m. on the northbound platform of the 49th Street station, which serves the N and R trains, an MTA spokesperson said.

Pedestrians, including children, were horrified as cops carried the bloodied victim out of the subway.

The alleged suspect smirks at cops while being escorted to a vehicle.

The bloodied victim was sent to Bellevue Hospital.

The bloodied victim endured a head injury.

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>>973761
>Where are the heroes today?
I, I can remember (I remember)
Standing, by the wall (by the wall)
And the guns, shot over our heads (over our heads)
And we shat our pants, as though nothing could fall (nothing could fall)
And the shame, was on the other side
Oh we can beat them, for ever and ever
Then we could be Heroes, just for one day
We can be Heroes
We can be Heroes
We can be Heroes
Just for one day
We can be Heroes
We're nothing, and nothing will help us

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>good - finish us off before we devolve into total negro worship and tranny coddle mode

https://www.the-sun.com/news/4214471/china-feared-hiding-missile-trojan-horse-containers/

CHINA has been secretly developing Trojan Horse-style missiles hidden in shipping containers that can be unleashed on enemy ports, experts warn. Military analysts believe the country’s huge fleet of freighters and fishing vessels could be turned into warships with the use of the secretive container missiles.Disguised as a regular shipping containers, they can be sneaked on board a vessel to blend in seamlessly with the hundreds of others on board. The sheer number of container ships in the world makes them harder to pinpoint than warships in the event of war. Like the fabled Trojan Horse, the missiles would be quietly smuggled into or near an enemy port on a civilian vessel before being unleashed in a surprise attack. Rick Fisher, senior fellow in Asian military affairs at the International Assessment and Strategy Center, told The Sun Online while Chinese have not officially confirmed they have the missiles - it is likely they have them. And the it was warned in a study by Stockton Center for International Law that the weapons could violate naval laws.
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Assuming these are normal shipping containers that get offloaded at some point, I would be curious how they could insure these would work and wouldn't be stacked differently at some point thus preventing them from opening and firing.
If they are just keeping them on boats in perpetuity there's not much we can do
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>>973584
>that greentext
Go shoot up your high school about it schizo
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>>973584

Old news. Pentagon released this concern over a year ago. Let's Go Brandon probably getting more $ for it.
NUKE CHINA before they nuke us first!
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>>973619
>NUKE CHINA before they nuke us first!
China has a no first use policy. Unlike the global terrorist that is the USA.

Nice picture OP, clearly you are not pushing a hawkish agenda.
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stay noided.

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https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-supreme-court-consider-rolling-back-abortion-rights-2021-12-01/

WASHINGTON, Dec 1 (Reuters) - Conservative U.S. Supreme Court justices on Wednesday signaled a willingness to dramatically curtail abortion rights in America and perhaps overturn the landmark 1973 Roe v. Wade ruling that legalized the procedure nationwide as they indicated they would uphold a restrictive Republican-backed Mississippi law.

The court, which has a 6-3 conservative majority, heard about two hours of oral arguments in the southern state's bid to revive its ban on abortion starting at 15 weeks of pregnancy, a law blocked by lower courts. The liberal justices warned against ditching important and longstanding legal precedents like Roe and abandoning a right American women have come to rely upon.

Jackson Women's Health Organization, the only abortion clinic in Mississippi, challenged the law and has the support of Democratic President Joe Biden's administration. A ruling is expected by the end of next June.

Roe v. Wade recognized that the right to personal privacy under the U.S. Constitution protects a woman's ability to terminate her pregnancy. The Supreme Court in a 1992 ruling called Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pennsylvania v. Casey reaffirmed abortion rights and prohibited laws imposing an "undue burden" on abortion access. Mississippi asked the justices to overturn the Roe and Casey rulings.

Conservative Justice Brett Kavanaugh voiced a view often expressed by abortion opponents that nothing in the Constitution protects abortion rights.

"The Constitution is neither pro-life nor pro-choice on the question of abortion but leaves the issue to the people of the states or perhaps Congress to resolve in the democratic process," Kavanaugh said.

If Roe were overturned, many states "would continue to freely allow abortion," Kavanaugh added. Before the Roe ruling, many states banned abortion.
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>>973612
>We're more than happy to dictate the bodily autonomy of adults
Yes. I never made the argument that dictating the bodily autonomy of adults is bad.

>Court ordered sobriety
In the cases where an individual has proven to be a danger to themselves or others and isn't capable of making safe choices concerning their alcohol use. The difference is that the safety of other human beings is a very easily discernible line to draw in comparison to what it means to be a person. I'm uncomfortable with the state enforcing such broad philosophical concepts on people's bodies.

>executive vaccine mandates dictate bodily autonomy
Depending on how its enforced it isn't an issue of bodily autonomy. If an employer or place of business requires vaccines that isn't a bodily autonomy issue. If a state or government enforces society wide vaccine mandates then the argument, clearly, the rational is that your decision to not get vaccinated has a direct impact on others in society. This is not the case with an abortion.

>For now it isn't because a person cannot be made to carry a child to term.
I think there's two separate bodily autonomy arguments here. The first one is that the state should or shouldn't have the right to force someone to carry a child to term based on codified law. The second is that a father should be able to use state power to force someone to carry a child to term based on his personal desire to have a kid. I think the arguments for/against each differ slightly from each other.
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>>973613
>The second is that a father should be able to use state power to force someone to carry a child to term based on his personal desire to have a kid.
I don’t think there is any case in the “for” column here honestly. A woman would not be able to force a medical procedure, vasectomy, on a man so she wouldn’t have a child.
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>>973614
>I don’t think there is any case in the “for” column here honestly
There definitely is an argument, its just a really bad one. You can list out a bunch of positives for doing so but it would be a giant ethical contradiction within the greater framework of our legal system. We don't really build laws on utilitarian calculus. For example, it may be good for one person to donate all of their organs and save the lives of five people. That doesn't mean it should be illegal not to.

>A woman would not be able to force a medical procedure, vasectomy, on a man so she wouldn’t have a child.
This is the argument I'd go with. There isn't any precedent I can think of for building a law which allows a person to inhibit their partner's bodily autonomy based on something like a personal desire.
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>>971271
This guy knows the history. Even people who believe abortion should be legal (including myself) should know the history: Roe wasn't a great decision and was absolutely activism. Wasn't RBG famously unhappy with Roe? The cynic in me says that Roe was the perfect way to leave abortion on the table as a wedge issue.

>>971228
Who hurt you? Everyone I know with this opinion was raped as a child.

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>>971255
They don't understand power. Try something else.

>>971571
Ok, boomer.

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>>971066
>to revive its ban on abortion starting at 15 weeks of pregnancy
Oh no, what will we do of we can't abort our babies after 15 weeks of being pregnant in a 38 week pregnancy that is so unreasonable




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