>>1083144
>Is there some point where you will accept responsibility for your actions? Maidan regime had been using Russia as an excuse for every crime and atrocity it committed since 2014.
Jeeze, I wonder what happened in 2014 to cause the Ukies to blame the Ruskies for everything? Oh yeah, they forcibly annexed Crimea. That sort of thing does tend to make a nation a bit paranoid (and apparently justly so, given what's happening now.)

If you invade a country and shit goes down, it's your responsibility.

>Except it is Ukraine that is hiding from Russia.
Oh, I'm sure Russia is going to win this thing, only to further prove there is no god, but Russia is the "superior force" hiding its troops by setting up a base around a fucking nuclear power plant.

>The narrative about depriving Ukraine of power exists to provide excuse for attempts to cause meltdown: when nuclear power plants are being shut down (ex. when artillery is shelling them), they require major amounts of power for cooling. Russia had to connect Zaporozhia NPP to their own power network to provide this power.
You can lower the control rods on a nuclear reactor without drawing additional power (indeed with no power at all, if you have to), but it doesn't really make the plant much safer if it gets shelled. The only saving grace Russia has in this situation is that they've not yet cut the power entirely.

>>1083238
The frightening part here is just how many Russians believe exactly that. They've been convinced by the Putin regime that the Ukraine government is bombing its own civilians and the Russians are only there to save them. You have incidents of families split between the countries getting into heated arguments as to who is actually shelling them. You can make people believe anything, though I'm sure it confuses the hell out of the young lads when they first reach the front lines.

>>1083247
> forgot HOLODOMOR
You are bad at this, Taras.
Ukraine already has carte blanche to murder and rob people forever. And irradiate Europe, of course.

>If you invade a country and shit goes down, it's your responsibility.
Yeah, sure. If someone breaks into my house, I get to poison city water supply and it'll be his fault.

>You can lower the control rods on a nuclear reactor without drawing additional power
And then what? The only result of this is reactor will be heating up slower. If reactor doesn't get to cool off (which requires constantly drawing energy for months), you are still getting meltdow. It simply happens in 15 minutes, rather than 15 seconds.

> but it doesn't really make the plant much safer if it gets shelled.
Shelling is not a problem, Taras.

Cracking reactor core (or nuclear waste site which is outside, btw) will simply irradiate part of Zaporozhia (and poison Dnepr, somewhat Black Sea, and slightly Mediterranean). EU will just carry on.

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>>1083248
I'm not even sure I can fully blame them. If you don't have a strong opinion on a topic and hear the same government lies day in and day out I'm not surprised that you'll eventually believe them.
>>1083229
Gee, I wonder

>>1082902
an intruder*

>>1082836
>The millions of people who support illegal immigration could easily absorb these people into their homes and families.
This is my favorite dumbfuck conservative argument. Do you support the education system and teaching children basic life skills? Well why aren't you in a classroom teaching the children yourself? This is how dumb you sound.

>>1082975
[citation needed]

>>1082993
>Do you support the education system and teaching children basic life skills?
If the children are legal citizens with taxpaying parents, sure. Not a huge fan of criminals in schools.

>>1083017
NTA, but...
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Most+illegal+immigrants+come+by+plane&t=vivaldi&ia=web
...Pick a source.

40% isn't the majority, but that's a lot more than I thought.

>>1083102
>>1082975
entry of illegals is spread through multiple large ports and usually illegals coming in that way disperse as opposed to being concentrated in relatively few border crossings/towns.
I don't even get the >muh majority of illegals fly here argument. You are saying if we build a wall and put land mines in front of it we can cut down illegals by 40%? How is that not amazing? Would you turn down a drug that only cures cancer in 40% of people with literally no side effects or lowering inflation by only 40% with one super easy thing with no negatives or reduce CO2 emissions by 40%?

>>1083102
>Most illegal immigrants come by plane
>[citation needed]
>40% isn't the majority
Wow you really showed me Anon.

>>1079586
And that has never been proven to work, it's the exact opposite. Who would have thought that if you give more money to people who already horde it, they'll just horde it?

Republicans can't win, so they need to just outright steal elections.

>>1079028
Projection is a key aspect of liberalism.

>>1083164
Good coping mechanism.

>>1082457
They'd probably win more if they had an actual platform. The Republican party isn't really for anything, but they're sure as hell against a lot of things.
What Repubs are against:
>Immigration
>Civil rights
>Women's bodily autonomy
>States rights when they make the "wrong" decision
>Social outreach programs
>Minorities being treated like people
>Freedom of religion and press
>A fair cost of living
>Punishing pedophiles
>The teachings of their own religion
>Schools teaching an unbiased history of America
What repubs are for:

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>>1081972
Name a single successful country that doesn't collect taxes.

>>1081943
>I should only listen to the voices in my head and racists on /pol/

>>1082264
Still can't meme, huh?

>>1081659
>turn to violence when they can't get their way.
How is that wrong? go dilate

>>1082800
You think söÿjack is a meme, therefore your opinion on memes is invalid.

>>1082728
Idiots like you are the reason why democrats still get votes.

Did you know: When the Inflation Reduction Act was passed, an amendment was proposed that said no one earning under $400,000 annually could be audited by the IRS.

Every Democrat voted against that amendment and it failed.

The 87,000 agents are for you.

>>1082831
You fool, Republicans all voted for the same amendment.
The 87000 agents are to fix the 150000 agents Trump fired to appease "small government" big government dickheads like you.

>>1082721
Republicans are the globohomo corporations.

>>1082798
>why does pepsi taste same as cola?

>>1083228
>he's never heard of the pepsi challenge
It doesn't taste the same.

Now the question is whether and how the center fits into President Biden’s efforts to close the prison at Guantánamo, which opened more than 20 years ago to hold terrorism suspects seized around the globe in the aftermath of the Sept. 11 attacks.

Thirty-six prisoners remain at Guantánamo today.

Over the years, the United States has held about 780 men and boys at Guantánamo Bay, with about 660 there at its peak in 2003. Saudi citizens were of particular interest because 15 of the 19 hijackers in the Sept. 11 attacks were Saudis.

The Trump administration released just one prisoner from Guantánamo, a confessed Qaeda operative who is currently serving a prison sentence in Riyadh under an Obama-era plea agreement. The Biden administration repatriated another Saudi citizen in May, but under an agreement to send him for psychiatric treatment for schizophrenia, not jihadi rehabilitation.

More than half of the detainees currently at Guantánamo have been cleared for release but must wait for the Biden administration to find a country willing to take them in with security arrangements. Most are from Yemen, one of several countries Congress considers too unstable to receive men from Guantánamo.

Other detainees are in plea negotiations with discussions about whether convicts could serve their sentences in foreign custody.

The Obama administration had tried to shut down the prison, and Saudi Arabia was one of the countries that figured prominently in the resettlement plans. Another was Oman, which received 28 Yemeni men in a highly secretive project that found them wives and homes and jobs, so long as they did not tell their neighbors that they had done time at Guantánamo, according to former detainees.

None of those men who were resettled were ever tried for war crimes.

The Obama administration sent 20 prisoners to the United Arab Emirates, mostly Yemenis but also several Afghans and a man from Russia. But the country essentially jailed them and then abruptly repatriated all but the Russian, drawing human rights protests that the returnees risked persecution.

With that program deemed a failure, the Biden administration has been looking for other options for cleared captives, chief among them the Yemenis.

Other hard cases include an ethnic Rohingya Muslim who is stateless; a Maryland-educated Pakistani who became an informant for the U.S. government and fears persecution if he is repatriated; and a Saudi citizen who has been critical of the kingdom’s ruling family.

A recent visit to the dusty brown campus in the outskirts of Riyadh highlighted one possibility.

The program was founded by and named for Prince Mohammed bin Nayef, a former interior minister who had close ties to U.S. intelligence agencies. When he was forced out by the kingdom’s de facto ruler, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, the program was renamed the Center for Counseling and Care.

As described by managers, the program blends classes on nonviolent interpretations of Shariah law with physical fitness, recreation and counseling aimed at returning those who graduate to their families.

Or, as one staff member called it, undoing “the brainwash that happens” when a young man is drawn to religious extremism.

A library features recommended reading about successful Saudis, “the right people, in order to avoid the wrong role models, not the way that turns you into darkness or death,” Wnyan Obied Alsubaiee, the program’s director, who holds the rank of a major general, said through an interpreter.

One book recounts the story of a Saudi man who studied in New York in the 1970s and rose to prominence in civic life back in his homeland, including a role in a Saudi-American dialogue after the attacks of Sept. 11. Another is a biography of a former government minister, “Building the Petrochemical Industry in Saudi Arabia.”

General Alsubaiee said two former prisoners of Guantánamo in the Saudi prison system would be accepted into the program once they completed their sentences. One is Ahmed Muhammed Haza al-Darbi, the confessed Qaeda terrorist released by the Trump administration. The identity of the other is not known.

The director bristled at portrayals of the program as a five-star hotel for extremists.

“This is not a prize,” he said. “They are not prisoners anymore. They have to go back to society. We want them to feel accepted, and that this is another chance.”

Of the 137 men sent to Saudi Arabia from Guantánamo, some by way of Saudi prison, 116 rejoined society and have stayed out of trouble, 12 were recaptured, eight were killed and one is “wanted,” according to a program fact sheet.

None of the men were identified by the Saudi government during the visit. But some of the dead are known, notably those who were sent during the George W. Bush administration and then fled to Yemen, where they joined Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.

In Riyadh, the program’s participants live in pods, individual bedrooms arranged around a courtyard with a mosque, kitchen and small open air stove for making tea on cool desert nights.

As described by program administrators, the Saudi participants’ first visits home are short but evolve into long-term stays with family — for example, the two-week holiday furlough that virtually emptied the center in July.

The nation’s security apparatus is unseen but present. The director is a military official and security employees and care providers dress identically in the classic white robe and red checked head covering favored by government workers and businessmen. In the gym, a guide gestured to a camera in a corner of the weight lifting area and explained that facial expressions there were under surveillance.

But on this visit, Saudi transparency only went so far. Nobody would say how many of the program’s 200 slots were occupied, or when the most recent person or longest resident arrived.

At the gallery, an art therapist, Awad Alyami, described his program as an opportunity for the men to express their feelings and for program sponsors to evaluate them.

One painting was an expressionist take of the crowds circling the Kaaba in Mecca, Islam’s holiest site, but clockwise rather than the ritualistic counterclockwise. Program staff members were concerned about the depiction of the holy site, and had the artist meet with a cleric.

One section of the gallery showcases the work of former Guantánamo prisoners.

“A lot of weird stuff here,” Dr. Alyami said.

The section has no sign but stands out for its image of a guard tower, razor wire and men in orange uniforms. Other program participants’ art tended toward desert scenes and other Saudi themes.
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>>1082711
Don't go down the semantics road groomer, you're better than that.

>>1082767
go down the road. do it.

>>1082722
Can you elaborate on the claims you've just made? "Government" is a pretty nebulous term, as is "lied" and "crimes"

This thread has aged poorly

>>1082989
How so?

>>1081557
Sometimes they come to this board.

>>1081554
>The latest Russian campaign of lies is one of their most twisted war tactics yet.
This is gonna be good.


> “In the territory of the western regions, Polish zlotys were put into circulation
Well, they were.
> in most shops there are double price tags.
In some shops, yes. No idea about "most".

> There is nowhere to run from Russia.
And shills just went full retard.
I'm guessing, they don't get paid enough to make things believable.

> “All residents of the occupied territories should remember: All Ukrainian lands will be freed, Ukraine will remain an indivisible and unitary state, and every occupier and collaborator will receive a well-deserved retribution,” the agency said.

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>>1081568
Speak of the devil
>>1081569

>>1081554
>according to a new report from the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine
lol

>>1081568
Sometimes they are in your room too, I guess.

>>1081919
> We have since learned that Putin concretely aided the campaigns of Bernie Sanders, Jill Stein, and Gary Johnson, as well as Trump.

Where did we learn this?

>>1082443
>No proof
Is this what Trump shills are claiming now even though the FBI took back the top secret nuclear documents Trump stole?

>>1083170
Link to where the affidavit, search warrant, or evidence receipt there were classified nuclear documents recovered from Trump. I'll wait while you dilate on it cuck shill.

>>1083173
>Moving the goalposts from the warrant after they blew up in your faces.
Keep coping and seething.

>>1083177
Dilate and Sneed cuck. Can't stump the Trump.

>>1081431
Good read, op
Thanks

>>1083071
>Nobody has ever made the claim that the government doesn't groom kids to be trans while keeping parents in the dark
wrong
>Nobody has ever made the claim that young children who are pressured by the government to become trans aren't actually trans
wrong
>what conclusion we're supposed to be drawing from this
Democrat grooming is bad
>This is a story about one person
lol tell yourself that

>>1083071
I'm sorry, but you can't in good conscious defend assuming someone who hasn't even hit puberty yet is suffering from gender dysphoria, much less failing to inform a parent that's what you're treating them for.

And while it's rare, but happens far too often. I hate their gay-hating agenda, but I'm with the GOP in that you shouldn't be gender-bending your kids until they are at least 18, and thus have lived through puberty with that body for some time and can make the decision themselves (barring drug addiction). You certainly shouldn't be gender bending elementary school kids that don't have some sort of physical disorder. That's just sick.

>>1083123
>>1083107
>>1083072
>>1083071
This isn't news, take your culture wars bullshit back to /pol/

>>1083131
>Go away and ignore our grooming
No

>>1083074
I tell my girlfriend I spent a few hours yelling at fascists on the internet. She rolls her eyes and doesn't say anything. I tell my girlfriend I spent a few hours yelling at people that girls are overvalued in society. What does she do? I dunno, I don't do that second one.

>>1083074
>>1083075

Your smooth brain has gotten the best of you anon.
Value != Over valued

Women have a purpose and duty in society, this is value.

Every woman acting as if they’re a 9 or 10 and the center piece of society is over value.

I know having a person who loves you in life without paying a monthly subscription is something you can’t understand. But there’s people like me in this world, and there’s people like you who’s father never used the word “proud” when talking about you.

Dinners ready, pork chops tonight.

>>1083079
Excellent RPing anon! Unfortunately, she's not real, and you have schizophrenia.

>>1083079
Whats your relationship with your girlfriend like, anon?

>>1083073
Which is why they deserved to be treated with the scorn they are and shouldn't be given any mercy. The problem is the corporate media has to push the 'both sides argument' they end up shilling the Republican arguments.

I mean on MSNBC, the 'liberal' news source, they asked a democratic senator how Trump stealing nuclear weapon secrets would be bad for democrats going into the midterms.

>>1082532
It's doubtful that Mr. Trump is currently a billionaire.

>>1082521
> You lefty gay tranny commies are mentally I'll and stupid

My ALL CAPS GAY STUPID TRANNY BRO, aint mentally I'll[sic] , you stoopid.

>>1082532
>First president to be poorer after presidency than before

>>1083021
>Shilling for corrupt politicians

>>1082535
His son-in-law got $2 billion from Saudi Arabia, so I somehow think Trump's doing fine.

Though I wonder who he was going to sell those nuclear weapon secrets to, seems the Saudi's might want a counter to Iran's program.

>>1082737
There's only three people in this thread, and half the posts is one of them arguing with himself

>>1082957
Keep dreaming cracker lolllzz. Trump for prison 2024

>>1082995
Lefties really do believe this. It's an inconceivable pipedream that gets them through their day. Cosmic level delusion

>>1083032
>it's inconceivable that someone who got raided by the FBI will go to jail after the FBI found illegal stuff

>>1082981
>11 replies
>10 posters
You need to be 18 to be here son

>>1082659
>seventh time is the charm, i just love swallowing every lie as my history of swallowing lies shows

dude you are sad

>>1080624
I just love LOVE how the FBI is now asking Trump for his video of their raid.
Shouldn't they have been wearing body cams?
lol even lmao hell NO to this laughable request save the videos for later i am sure republicans will need them when the FBI spins and twists and lies just like they did during muh russia.

>>1082833
Trump should make a copy and give them the tapes so later when the FBI and media run edited bullshit version he can fuck them with the real version.
Or Trump should just simply air the raid on prime time maybe even pay per view or just on fox news on tucker carlson lol
Make it a week long event with big PR (it is 9-12 hours long after all)

>>1080624
Leftist media beginning to admit the truth--starting to spin for Biden DOJ that it "doesn't matter" if the documents were declassified.. oh my everything is falling apart in under one week..

>>1082838
>fails to provide any evidence to this
Idk anon, all I've seen are pieces debunking the idea that Donald can have a standing order to declassify whatever he took from the White House.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/08/14/trump-classified-documents-doj-opinion-00051584

Friday marks the five-year anniversary of Unite the Right, and some of those same anti-fascists have a message for all the white supremacists who went to Charlottesville in 2017 and haven’t yet been identified: We will find you.

A coalition calling itself Ignite The Right launched a website this week featuring an extensive database of every single white supremacist who has allegedly been identified as attending the Charlottesville rally. It also includes photos of many attendees whose names, five years later, remain unknown.

“Antifascists are continuing to work towards exposing every single person who participated,” the Ignite The Right website declares. “We do not forgive. We do not forget.”

“This project is dedicated to Heather Heyer and all the victims of racism,” it says, referring to the 32-year-old who died after a man drove his vehicle into a crowd of counterprotesters.

Ignite The Right is a project that involves over a dozen anti-fascist groups and individuals, many of whom have an established track record of positively identifying white nationalists, and whose work has been verified by media outlets, including HuffPost. They include the Anonymous Comrades Collective, which unmasked one of the country’s most notorious online neo-Nazis, as well a white supremacist elementary school teacher. Other groups in the Ignite The Right coalition include Dixie Tears Streaming Service, @SalishCoastA, @PacAntifa, @SunlightAFA and @BonnotGalaxy.

“As of this writing, we have 277 entries in our database but it’s growing quickly as more tips come in. 67 of the entries, we don’t know who they are yet,” one of the researchers, who asked to remain anonymous to protect themselves from reprisals, told HuffPost on Wednesday. “We expect this database to grow to over 500 as we start working on random faces from footage.”

The database of Unite the Right attendees is modeled, in part, after a database created by “Sedition Hunters,” online sleuths who expose the identities of those who stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

Each yet-to-be identified white supremacist is assigned a nickname based on their appearance, like #WhiteHardHatUTR or #MysteryGoateeUTR. Photos of them at the rally are placed alongside descriptions of the extremist groups to which they likely belonged, or actions they took at the rally.

The entry for #RedBeardUTR, for example, includes images from video footage of the still-unidentified man beating a Black counterprotester, Deandre Harris, inside a parking garage.

Ignite The Right’s members are counting on the public to send them information that might help identify these white supremacists.

“Since launching the site this morning, we have received over a dozen tips from the public,” the researcher said. “We expect there to be frequent updates to the site over time.”

The researcher added that they believe “one of the yet-to-be-identified attendees were also in attendance at the January 6th insurrection.”

Unlike the Sedition Hunters, who have exposed many Jan. 6 insurrectionists, Ignite The Right does not and will not cooperate with law enforcement — upholding a long-standing tenet of anti-fascist activism.

Ignite The Right also promises to be unsparing in whom it chooses to identify. Contrary to Trump’s infamous declaration in the days after the 2017 rally, there were no “very fine people” who participated.

“One of the great canards surrounding Unite the Right is that many ‘very fine people’ were somehow tricked into attending under the belief that this was really just a rally in opposition to the removal of Confederate monuments,” the Ignite The Right website states. “Attendees travelled thousands of miles, booked flights and hotels, and made informed decisions to attend the rally organized by well-known fascists.”

The anti-fascists also promise to never stop hunting, no matter how long it takes.

“We don’t care if you’re 101,” the researcher said. “We want you to face consequences. Even if it takes us 30 years to find you.”

This is America, we fuck dwarves in the ass.
soy boys gonna stop the bubba-trumps?

What about the niggers?

Centrilift stupid niggers !