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I'm going to be honest. I care DEEPLY about social media engagement when it comes to my art. As far as I'm concerned, if my work doesn't get enough likes, it's bad art.
Yes, I draw for clout
Yes, I draw for followers
Yes, I draw for approval and validation
Why the fuck else would I even bother posting anything online?
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>>7157773
Pyw
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>>7155876
And you are not a real woman!
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>>7156652
>I don't give a fuck about numbers, they mean nothing to me. I do, however, care to have a space to collect and display my work for people to see.
When people talk about these numbers, they are usually referring to the numbers of people seeing their work.
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>>7158837
nice duck

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Mikey is so based. His hips are perfect for studying.
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>>7153911
This will never not be funny
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>frazetta, shirow, this guy
Is being a BLACKED cuck the secret to making it?
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>>7156159
>exclusively hired thick girls back in the day
>superior lighting and cinematography
That's all you need for references.
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>>7156114
>Mommy I made up headcanons to seethe at again!
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>>7156099
that's his reference bro lol
I'm with the other anon, he should have owned up to it. it's not like he's the only one watching blacked and he literally draws porn lol

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I started drawing on February 25th, 2024. Initially, I copied various drawings from animes I liked, but eventually, I realized this approach wasn't working for me, so I switched to "Keys to Drawing." Despite the change, something still felt off about my drawing process.

I realized that I never talked to myself while drawing; instead, I mindlessly copied and observed without engaging in any practical dialogue or reflective thought. I always rushed my drawings without thinking deeply about what I was doing.

What's really challenging for me is to remain conscious while drawing. I tried to do this today but got distracted and slipped into autopilot. This demotivated me because, after three months of drawing, I realized I hadn't been actively thinking while drawing; I was just mindlessly copying and looking.

My question is, has anyone else experienced this issue? If so, should I just push through and try to draw consciously and patiently, or is there an underlying issue I need to address?
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>>7158178
That autopilot you talk about might be what is known as flow state. It's a great thing to achieve and where you are most productive. You should only break it when you put something down and immediately looks off to you, then stop and fix it.
Otherwise, just plow through your drawing/studies, and once you call it finished, take your time to analyze it, find flaws, and do any corrections if necessary.
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>>7158193
That's fair, I mean to each of their own I'll try my best to remind myself to think while drawing
>>7158202
I can't kill pawell man.
>>7158203
I'm not sure, because whenever I draw without thinking, I tend to dislike and criticize my work excessively. Perhaps I'm too critical of myself or I'm doing something wrong.

Here's my work by the way it's my dad account as I have the worse storage ever.

https://dad.gallery/users/5453/submissions
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>>7158178
>should I just push through and try to draw consciously and patiently
Not a single professional artist think when they draw, they all just draw and if something is off then they stop drawing and use the art fundamentals to fix it.
Animators do the same thing but they use animation principles instead of drawing fundamentals, unless they're 2d animators ofc.
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>>7158222
>Not a single professional artist think when they draw, they all just draw and if something is off then they stop drawing and use the art fundamentals to fix it.
Multitasking is a meme so focus on one thing.
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>>7158203
No. The Flow state is the state when your body is working automatically, it's for when you're working on something you already know. The difficult frustrated state where time slows down is where you're actually learning.
Flow state when you work, frustrated state when you're learning.

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Why is it so rare to see art where something is actually happening like pic related, instead of some character striking a pose (and looking at the camera)?

Art is supposed to capture a moment, not emulate a photoshoot.
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>>7154957 #
I like light novels for this reason but it sucks illustrations are seen as kiddie. Probably because publishing houses want to save money just like when Tor got caught using AI art for a cover.
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>>7154809
My problem is I don't feel like spending 9 hours for 3k likes and 200 retweets. Or 100k likes and 3k retweets. Because either way you're just a moment on a timeline, and there's always another You below you waiting for their 3 seconds. Even if it touched someone, it's not a moment that endures.
>Oh wow this is amazing
2 weeks later you aren't even in the rear view mirror of their deepest thoughts. You happened, and for what? It's rewarding to look at art like this, it's just not as rewarding to make it
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>>7154957
>It's because art is "content" now instead of something with depth and value.
Oh, come on. As if pinups and portraits haven't existed for hundreds of years
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There are Portraits, a pose looking at the camera, and there is Illustration, portraying a scene from some story,defining the world through details.
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>>7154809
We'd write novels instead if we actually had ideas.

Is copying, and understanding, Bridgman's over and over actually valuable?
I heard some artists talking about it, what do you guys think?
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>>7126302
Will copying bridgman help me draw hot furries?
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>>7157974
>>7157976
He is probably the faggot that started a thread saying he got better by not drawing always, yet never posted a shit
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>>7158322
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>>7157976
>>7157974
no, because i'm not a narcissist and don't need asspats. the bridgeman hands guy is also a furry. you should be ashamed of defending him.
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>>7158545
shut up bitch nobody cares
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>>7158545
Are you what people call a crab?

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Why does drawing traditionally or in a sketchbook calm me while doing so digitally fill me with stress?
Anyone else have this dilemma?
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>>7157172
Love seeing your posts pop up in random threads. I know you've got less time to draw now due to a work/life situation, have you learned how to make it work yet?
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>>7157280
It's been a tough April at work. The two group leaders were out sick for over a month,and only one made it back,so I haven't drawn much from the exhaustion. I have bounced back, and this is my latest finished work, and presently I am working on something similar. I want a tshirt design,just for myself to make a prototype of,so what time I have to draw has been leaning in that direction. Anything I put to paper is a win.

To me at least.
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And this is the present work,a whimsical design and experiment.
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>>7153509
I'm the opposite, sketching on my PC feels great because I can erase quick and easy, but if I do that too much on paper it ends up being a mess. For lineart I stress the fuck out when doing it digitally for some reason.

>Bad anatomy by a artist I like
>Stylaization
>Bad anatomy by artists I don't like
>They're a hack
You troglodytes do this with everything and I hope you all burn in hell for it.
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>>7158603
bad anatomy is a faggoty nitpick at some point. If the art looks good, it looks good, and the i dotters just have bad taste
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>>7158603
OP is a retard
>>7158615
>unanimously agree on anything besides the fact that youre a nigger
OP is 100% a nigger
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>>7158603
There's an aesthetic to good and bad.
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>>7158603
OP must be underage to be this retarded
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Why do you care at all about anatomy being unrealistic if it looks good? Are you training to get a job in medical illustration? It's literally insignificant otherwise. If it looks good, it is good. It's art, not mathematics. If you want it to look good and be realistic or accurate, then you can do that. If you want it to look good and be cartoony or unrealistic, you can do that.

You guys see everything as a pissing contest, it's so sad to see people here value social hierarchy over the love of art.

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Previous thread: >>7146185

>Link: https://dad.gallery
>Discord: You must have a DAD streak of at least 14 to join. Ask Vastian for an invite.
>Found an issue with the site? Lost your streak and want to appeal? Please message the contact link at the bottom of the site instead of posting in the thread.

Rules:
>Draw every day (or your preferred frequency)
>Submit your work by 23:59:59 GMT
>Spend at least 30 minutes on each submission
>No loli or shota porn
>Miss a day and you'll be alright, just keep going!
>Maintain your streak and you too can become the LAST ARTIST STANDING!!
>Have fun!


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This thread ids dead. Where is the secret shadow thread everyone has gone too?
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Everyone's flowers look really good <3
I hope Hæber is ok
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please let me plap
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1,000 internets to whoever is willing to snitch where the secret shadow thread is.
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>>7159020
#8
A study again

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How many anons here are actually "classically" or "fomally" trained in an academy or by a teacher who belongs to a noble lineage of art? I see so many insanely skilled painters here, who just drop their art in the draw thread and never give advice or reply to any other anons, and it makes me feel like they have access to knowledge that the rest of his don't have. The video courses, artbooks, and advice given in the various stickies of the generals here don't even seem to be able to help a day 0 beginner cross the bridge towards the high quality stuff I see those anons producing.

I don't know. How important is it, in your view, to just go and subscribe to a school like Watts Atelier for 2 years and to just not come back to /ic/ until you're really skilled? For those of you who are really skilled, how did you get there?
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>>7158625
draw a kangaroo from imagination
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>>7158625
>brent eviston
Is he really that good? I have an instinctive revulsion towards him because some anon kept shilling him for 2 years, but I'm open to changing my mind. If possible, could you post your work? (just a sketch is fine) What makes him so much better than other people like Loomis and Steve Huston?
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>>7158551
I'm not sure an "art institute" counts as formal training because it's useless and I ended up teaching myself 99.9% of the time off books.
I heard similar stories from others, including people that went to art college so it's not just bad luck.
Nowadays they're more interested in making money than filtering or expelling bad artists so you end up with self-taught artists as graduates.
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>>7158636
>What makes him so much better than other people like Loomis and Steve Huston?
>NTA
No way in hell he's better than Loomis or Huston (or Vilppu-sama)
Don't get me wrong, he's good, really good but not that good, those 3 are literal art Gods.
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>>7158680
There's a pantheon of Art Gods that teach and Vilppu is the numba one by far, not a single other artist, not even Watts can come close to our lord and savior.

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why do 80% of characters face towards the left?
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>>7152785
He makes no snese. No matter what way a chracter is facing, you can still make the pose in a way where you'll have to draw more ")" curves.
What he said makes ABSOLUTELY no sense.
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>>7156627
wtf is this sorcery oO
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>>7152558
this made me curious, so i tallied up all the characters i've drawn in the past year. (n/a = front-facing or looking away from the camera) i'm right-handed btw
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>>7152558
why does it matter?
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>>7157721
left handed and i overwhelming draw facing right. i can find 1 left facing and 4 front facing out 20 sketches sketches ive done

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do this
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>>7158207
Nice, did you made it with a marker pen?
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>>7155511
kek
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I did this for a howie in the beg general
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>>7158349
I did it with a “micro fineliner” pen. I think the brand is Leto? Some Chinese shit I got on Amazon.

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This makes me nauseous
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>>7155106
I only did every exercise once, only more if the exercise itself actually demanded multiples, and I got enough out of the book. Don't get begtrapped repeating nonsense and move on after finishing.
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>>7156070
i concede. you win
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>>7156052
Fun With A Pencil by Andrew Loomis
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>>7155106
Ok, I'll dig it out again
>>7155329
>Trap
No, but shilling it on here like some kind of religion is.

I drew this pic when I first started drawing. I got sick of the crabs pushing their favorite book instead of actually answering questions. Ironically, copying that hand was a good exercise, so whatever
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>>7155161
This, however you don't have to copy other artists (master copies.) It does save time however. No need to figure out shit through trial and error when you can just copy some shit here and there in a tiny fraction of the time and effort.
>>7155274
Instruction books are good for artist block. If you can't do anything at all, come back to it. Hell, use it as negative motivation.
>If I don't draw something original or copy something on my own, I have to do chapter 5.
Honestly, just draw whatever is in front of you as accurately as you can. You can always learn from it and you can always do a better job.

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do they really all have a damaged visual cortex or something?
theyr art is always ugly in this wierd samey way that i cant express into words exactly
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>>7157572
It's almost like we should've never let bankers become more powerful than kings.
It's only led to self-hating commoners pursuing power to power's sake no matter how self-destructive it is, and dragging us all into their madness.
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>>7157601
they do make art, it's mostly of shitty political cartoon art or a variation of stone stoss. Those garbage drawings are the same veil of tumbler horseshit.
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>>7157601
>>7157609
>>7158191
Real right wing artists don't share their art online, it's their hobby not a perfomance like it is for leftoids.

Chuds do draw shitty wojaks and gotchu comics but they're not right wing they're just contrarians. If we were in a right wing zeitgeist they'd be drawing troony comics instead.
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>>7157112
They hate appeal and love glorifying ugliness
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>>7157112
>RIGHT AN LEFT PSYOP IN 2024
Americans are a ngmi race

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How did your life change after embracing being a porn artist? Do you feel more confident, do you tell people what you do? Do you get to meet more interesting artists?
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>>7153836
did you check a buncha other patreons to set ur price? do u think 3 dollars is the best entry tier, arent theyre a bunch who are at 5 dollars, do u just do pinup or simple lewd arts? do u just upload at the end of every month?
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>>7154142
I felt that way too, then I just accepted that fluctuation as part of the process. It's normal to lose some people at the end of the month, and I always gain them back.

>>7154235
>did you check a buncha other patreons to set ur price?
yes
>do u think 3 dollars is the best entry tier
It depends on the content you're offering within that tier. If you consistently provide multiple pieces of art each week, then raising the price to $5 appears justified, provided your artistic skills match the value.
>do u just do pinup or simple lewd arts?
High res full color pin up with different variations, monthly poll, PSD/CSP files, time lapse, art suggestion privilege, discord benefits and art tutorials.
>do u just upload at the end of every month?
Every Friday.
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>>7154305
did u do anything special to get out of the no view twitter void, did u just post consistently?
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>>7150157
NTA, what's the point of having friends if they're not even worthy of getting a so-trivial fact about yourself?
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I drew a lot yesterday and now my thumb hurts.
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>>7158012
I’ve been holding it like this recently
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>>7158002
I've drawn every day for the last 6 months and my hands are fine. perhaps it was something outside of drawing that caused your thumb to hurt, but it sounds like you need to work on your holding technique.
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>>7158002
Plenty of artists draw everyday so you're probably jerking off too much and you have a "death grip"
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Stop death gripping your pencil like as if you were gooning and hold it more easy on your hand. The right finger position gives all the stability you need without pressing down like your clinging on to dear life
Also of you feel your wrist hurting take a short break as well
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>>7158097
Try holding it like a fag your about to smoke


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