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Why do people pretend like this?
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>>7159820
The implications are grim.
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>>7159820
You always want to talk to an audience, even if you don't have one. It's incredibly demoralizing
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>>7159862
How is it demoralizing when you haven't even worked hard to get one?

Can you even justify being embarrassed if no one is there to witness?
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>>7159785
here's a drawing

>Animation Thread Discord
https://discord.gg/Ju9NuWN

>51 exercises to try
http://www.animatorisland.com/51-great-animation-exercises-to-master/

>basic programs
https://opentoonz.github.io/e/
https://www.synfig.org/
https://motorpen.com
https://tupitube.com/

>Reference
http://www.referencereference.com/
https://vimeo.com/groups/aniref

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>>7135941
that sounds horrible
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>>7158517
krita
pencil2D opentoonz and flipaclip are free too
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3rd time ever animating something. Gotta do it more its fun
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>>7134902
test

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>touted by art instructors as the greatest, most thorough, and most accurate anatomy book ever written
>nobody on /ic/ uses it
why?
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>>7158699
>touted
means
>marketed
and we bought it! Can you say "you're welcome Watson-Guptill books"?

Art instructors don't critique their own sources.
There's a history of America's art schools and art literature and a lot to say about what I'll call the 'for artists" bubble.

This is a poorly written book, that's why so many people on /ic/ have the sense to ignore it in spite of
>>7158707
being all those things.

It begins with "science has nothing to teach the artist concerning...a surface."


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back in college (not art-specific) i worked through pretty much the whole book for my life drawing class in rl, the process then had no online associations. was completely local and only my prof ever saw my homework, but i had fun.
>forgot the lions’ share though, since i haven’t deep dived on human anatomy in ages.
it was a cool book
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>>7160507
>organs
why would you need the lymphatic system and organs to do figure drawing?
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>>7160507

Do you have any idea how retarded you sound?
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>>7160507
>This is a poorly written book, that's why so many people on /ic/ have the sense to ignore it in spite of
You had me have a look at it again. The (original, not the one edited by Hale) book is just a long series of plates, starting from major bones, going to major muscles groups, and showing how things bump on the surface, in that order.

What else would you want from an artistic-anatomy book intended for fine-artists (published in 1890)?

The Russians recently edited a pocket reference anatomy book, for when you're in the classroom, in front of a model. It basically contains the same information, presented differently, and augmented with various pictures of sculptures and paintings.

Of course, if you want simplified anatomy, for comic and manga, now that's a different beast. That's not what Richer was aiming at though.

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Does the quality of the watercolor paper and the quality of the paints matter that much if you're not one of those youtube moms that want to paint flowers?

If you look at the youtube hobbyists they all talk about how important it is to use the best paper, the best paint, etc, but then you look at actual good artists like Huston or Frazetta and they're painting on scrapbook paper with mickey mouse watercolor paints.
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>>7156569
man i really hate watercolor. few people can make it look good, but it's so unforgiving and looks like crap most of the time. and you'll be spending $$$ on paper, just to practice. most of all i hate how you can't layer it.
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>>7159532
>how you can't layer it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tXxBOKORpk

There are limits, depending on the material and the technique, but layering washes is a common thing.
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>>7159532
>you can't layer it
see, that's you using the wrong paper
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>>7159532
>man i really hate watercolor. few people can make it look good, but it's so unforgiving
that's why it's goated. Get gud.

PS:
>picrel was probably the greatest advice I've ever got, and it's insane he condensed everything into one single page.
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>>7156569
>Does the quality of the watercolor paper
Yes if you want to paint a lot of layers rather than working in a more sketchy style. Also if you use a lot of water, denser paper will buckle less. I would compromise on brushes and paints before paper.

Also you at least need acid-free paper if you want your work to survive for a long period of time.

>the quality of the paints
Matters less, but will make a difference for bright and strong hues. Don't use bottom-of-the-barrel ones, but decent mid-range ones will do quite well. Personally, I'd just get fewer colours of high quality, but I'm not broke.

Again, if you want your wok to survive you at least want relatively lightfast pigments.

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Why you should not trust youtube shills:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH1WEYF8rlA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twy5Wo8m284

Do not read anything into pressure levels. 1024 is more than enough.
If you have any additional questions, ask them.
Remember to ignore all chinese shills.

Recommended tablets:

>Screenless:
Intuos 3, 4, 5, Pro, One by Wacom

>Display:
Small (10-11"): Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 Lite

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>>7160389
>Who knew missing drivers would fuck me up so much.
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>>7160401
Yes it's almost like I might be retarded for not attempting to troubleshoot with the most common and basic solutions first.
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>>7160148
>paper screen protector
Don't these make the displsy look like shit?
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>>7160554
At least the S9 tablet paper screen is magnetic so you can put it on or off easily
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I wish samsung just made an apple pencil clone, because their tablet is much superior, but I hate the s-pen.

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Why don't anons talk about this more? Isn't it one of the best ways to "make it"?

Less competition as only have your countrymen to compete with, or even just artists in your city.

Actually able to charge a fair amount because third worlders can't come over to tattoo your clients

Is a scalable business as you can open studios and hire other artists, has an exit strategy so when you get older the business will be able to run itself kind of like a barbershop. Coomer on patreon will stop earning money the second he drops drawing and be irrelevant, plus no pension etc

Won't be under threat from AI unlike digital or concept artist etc, so will always be a need for artists especially in countries where lots of people have tattoos like America and Britain

Irl networking with other artists, clients and can maybe get tattooed gf, patreon artist is stuck inside house all day and can only network with other coomers.

Can actually be proud of the work you do unlike those forced to draw coom to make a living. Before anons say you don't have to draw coom to make a living. all I see is coom artists making it on patreon or pro concept artists.

Some of the points also apply to traditional gallery artists. I think it's come full circle to where trad is again the most viable way to make it as an artist, although you can still do tattoo designs in digital so your skills would carry over.

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>>7160307
what? no, no, it's not people, those are jews
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>>7159645
I got some female client who had squirting orgasm from tattooing around her labias . I received squirt juice in my eyes ang got afraid of STD and HIV for 2 weeks.

Some punk and alternate scene people are not super clean and depending where you tattoo ( like inside buttcheek or forehead it blead quite some.

You also touch people intimate parts sometime and are exposed to STD from touch like herpes. Sometime Tattoo artist need to also know hos to do piercings and manipulating a piercing needle without good gloves is a certain way to get STD.
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>>7160316
Crabs crabs crabs
Only people afraid of competition are people bad at it, yet trying to make money
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>>7159732
>>Is a scalable business
>No, most of the time not.
How does it usually work? Is it like a salon where someone rents their space or are artists usually salaried employees? Is it commission based?
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(o_O) ...... That's a pretty crazy story anon, I wouldn't tattoo on or near someones vagina, penis, anus.... bewbs is about as far as I'd go, I hate piercings so I'd avoid that risk.

Sounds like if I just wear gloves and don't tattoo where you tattoo I'll be ok

>>7160286
These are cool anon, do you buy clearance meat for practice or do butchers give you bits they would throw away for free?

>>7160371
from what I was reading the owner rents out the chairs. Depending on shop they charge like 50/50 on artist earnings or they charge a flat rate i.e $1000 per month. Seems like the shop owners earn more if they go 50/50 and if the artist is good and brings in lots of money they seem to negotiate up to 65/35

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>>7127192
I need the last Kim Jung Gi Artbook (2022), please. /artbook/ work your magic, I'm waiting.
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Requesting pic related. Couldn't find it anywhere despite the author being fairly popular.
Do mind that picrel is the latest edition, also referred to as *The* Dynamic Bible to distinguish it from the first edition.
>The Dynamic Bible: Peter Han
https://superanius.com/products/peter-han
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>>7160412
the quality of that one is so terrible it's not even worth a look
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>>7127192
Requesting this one

>CG背景スケッチング プロに学ぶ完成までのアプローチ

https://www.amazon.co.jp/CG%E8%83%8C%E6%99%AF%E3%82%B9%E3%82%B1%E3%83%83%E3%83%81%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B0-%E3%83%97%E3%83%AD%E3%81%AB%E5%AD%A6%E3%81%B6%E5%AE%8C%E6%88%90%E3%81%BE%E3%81%A7%E3%81%AE%E3%82%A2%E3%83%97%E3%83%AD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%81-%E3%82%B0%E3%83%A9%E3%83%95%E3%82%A3%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E7%A4%BE/dp/4766132386
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>>7160483
>>7160537
As far as I remember, an anon literally bought and scanned the book. But anyway, if the /hr/ archive isn't good enough for you, there'll be no Leyendecker book to satisfy you.

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Previous thread: >>7154362

>Link: https://dad.gallery
>Discord: You must have a DAD streak of at least 14 to join. Ask Vastian for an invite.
>Found an issue with the site? Lost your streak and want to appeal? Please message the contact link at the bottom of the site instead of posting in the thread.

Rules:
>Draw every day (or your preferred frequency)
>Submit your work by 23:59:59 GMT
>Spend at least 30 minutes on each submission
>No loli or shota porn
>Miss a day and you'll be alright, just keep going!
>Maintain your streak and you too can become the LAST ARTIST STANDING!!
>Have fun!


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Be sure to bother patch about registration to put your art in:
https://towergirls.booru.org/index.php

Post-free dice rolling tool that you'll ignore:
https://www.random.org/

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rollllll
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ROLL TIDE
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Roll
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>>7156374
Roll again
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Big bucks no wammies

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1. Don't post too revealing works (especially porn). If you think it's too lewd, post a censored copy here and link to Catbox (https://catbox.moe/) or any off-site that hosts images for your works.

2. Keep it to 2D Anime/Cartoon characters only. Do not post child photo references (legal or otherwise), and do not talk about issues regarding real children.

3. It is recommended to let the thread reach page 6-7 before starting a new one. Use archived(moe) or warosu to retrieve the old threads.

>Main resources & FAQ
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>Lolicon Artists Directory & History of Lolicon
https://load.blogs.allthefallen.moe/

Yes, it is back.
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>>7160464
This is someone who is blessed with God’s whispers.
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>>7160464
Whats his twatter? Legit eyeopening stuff there.
Makes me realize how shit is supposed to be and how utterly fucking wrong I have been doing it all this time.
Like learning birds can fly but finding out you are a fucking chicken.
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>>7160469
Many such cases

It's simon_7617118
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>>7159823
>a whole NFL division
h-how many players are in a team?
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>>7160474
>>7160464
>All this LoudHouse
Is TealLinefag a pedo?

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Am i doing any good progress?

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Post boggu links. X/Twitter, Instagram, Patreon.
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>>7160508
This has Chris Chan tier of soul
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>>7160491
>implying that's even possible anymore
Unironically buy bots, pay some blue checkmark to promote your shit or be lucky and get in some art discord where you can commence the public circlejerking.

That's what the accounts you think of, all do.
The age of organic growth is over.
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Art, gamedev. Still /beg/ but invest now so your stocks go up as I improve.
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>>7160528
I really just forgot the link.

https://twitter.com/jer_mint
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>>7160491
unironically twitter, if you don't post animations. if you make animations, it's youtube unless coom.

How do i draw juice thick women?
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>>7159419
feel the form
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>>7159419
All the knowledge i know so far
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>>7159419
Tummy + BOOBA + Thighs, Apply necessary thiccness to other limbs, feel the FORM
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>>7159419
Really would like to draw meaty bodys like him or Kunaboto. Would be nice to have a proportion guide / full body turn around to reference.
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find pics you like, analyze what you like about them and copy that.

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Previous thread: >>7066089

What is /ALT/?
If you're looking for a place to post your cartooning then you've found the right general. This is /ic/s 1st and only merged hub where both Eastern and Western stylization can coexist peacefully, hence the double title.
>Rules & Guidelines
(1) Any form of cartooning is welcome; so submit and receive feedback from others. (2) Please resize your images before posting. (3) Share your knowledge and (4) Remember to not be afraid of asking for critique. Most importantly, keep discussion at a civil level.
>I came for anime. Why does the image OP say cartoons general?
To distinguish from the anime study thread (janitor supported). Please post your studies there and personal work goes here.
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>Community Resources
>Tag the OP if you want a resource included here.
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cover painting
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>>7160026
the mismatched eyes are thowing me off, but otherwise looks nice anon
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>>7160026
>>7160086
Make the red eye blue and blue eye red
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Still a wip, but I'm making an oc. Just hoping she's not overdesigned.

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>have to draw more to get better at drawing
There's really no other way, is there?
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>>7160209
God I'm the same, cannot draw symmetrical or even imagine what it would be like slightly roated
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>>7159912
I did not manage to achieve that in 6 months. I can copy things accurately, and I can paint from life, but I'm completely helpless when I attempt to draw from life because the real world has no lines to copy. Nothing really suggests the appearance of lines to me, and I consistently attempt to invent them out of the wrong features. All the resources I've used teach copying drawings and drawing from life as the same skill even though to me it seems like they are completely unrelated, so I'm not sure what I should really even be trying to do.
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>>7159895
yes, however a lot of people don’t know about the different study techniques to actually improve
1) draw a study
2) draw it from memory
3) compare to reference
4) repeat
the memory part is actually the most important
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>>7159912
Good post.
A few things:
>this is the way art was taught for 500 years
Anon the history of teaching in art is not nearly so neat and tidy.
You're overgeneralizing with this "until modern art schools" phrasing.

>"people are "learning..."
People are "learning" for their entire lives. I don't doubt there's people who don't learn their anatomy.
I do doubt that you actually have a story about someone who hasn't learned anatomy after 10 years of trying.
You can point me to a /beg/ thread and that would be a "cop-out." If you don't have a complete case study or at least a personal anecdote.
I'd turn this one back around on you:
>your thoughts about reality are not reality, anon.
I think it's unwise for you to go around supposing that you know people that, in reality, you actually don't know. You don't have a personal friend who's been struggling to learn anatomy for 10 years.
>there's a chance that was you

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