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>just going to post the old header since the old thread died so suddenly
Welcome to Nobledark Imperium: a relatively light fan rewrite of the Warhammer 40,000 universe, with a generous helping of competence and common sense.

>PREVIOUS THREAD:
>http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/63751904/
Wiki (HELP NEEDED!):
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Nobledark_Imperium
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Category:Nobledark_Imperium
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Nobledark_Imperium_Notes (oh god somebody please help)

LAST TIME ON NOBLEDARK IMPERIUM:
>Malys and Vect have a spat
>Malys gets a ship
>Beastman Inquisitor Golosh Heldane
>Yvraine’s life post-Commorragh

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>>64183963
Lynn Mywin did, then the Inquisition kicked the stupid out of her and turned her into Zaeed Massani in elf girl form.
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>>64183963
that or a camo phase, like taldeer
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>>64182517
With 'learned folks' I meant people who know about the Eldar but aren't necessarily moral upstanders.

I was thinking the Imperium should have an edgelord subculture that can be either harmless or a thorn on the Arbites' side.
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>>64183500
>Governor of far eastern spinward star Bumfuckia Nowhere XIV builds up a "stellar guard reserve group", "Governor's honor brigade", or just straight up private army
>kills or subverts the PDF, starts trying to centralize power to build up fleets, maybe even anex his neighbors
>hoping his ties in the nearest Imperial fleets and fighting forces will let his conquests out in the boonies proceed with a delayed response that would let him tidy up and make things look semi-legitimate when the army arrives
>or better yet, no response unless someone important, like a local but still distant astartes chapter or inquisitor, takes a particular interest in his shadow war
>but before he can secure the system the tide is already shifting, PDF remnants that fled into the hills can't be rooted out, and they're picking off every man he sends to kill them with deadly long plasma guns and precision missile strikes
>Their tactics have changed, much improved over the feckless semi-professional force he'd intentionally softened before making his play, now radically different from any Imperial soldiery he'd observed
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>>64185379
Imperial edgelord culture would be an interesting mix of Eldar edgelord stuff, sexualized Isharite lore, the weird aristocratic fur coat catholic BDSM, cyberpunk slum dweller look from a lot of the older warhammer art, with a mix of the hyper-militant and the satirically militant. Essentially, they're humans pretending to be in vanilla 40K without realizing it, as the extension of what we've toned down. They'd all be anti-chaos for the most part, though possibly venerating Magnus and Ahriman as patrons of the civilized occult, and would have various cultural rules across various subcultures in the vast galaxy that would distinguish them from the likes of Slaaneshies.

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>News
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/01/05/breaking-news-new-models-new-expansions-and-exclusive-revealsgw-homepage-post-1/
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/01/02/organised-play-events-near-yougw-homepage-post-3/
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/01/01/1st-dec-the-top-5-things-to-look-forward-to-in-2019gw-homepage-post-3/
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/12/28/28th-dec-white-dwarf-and-our-other-gamesgw-homepage-post-4/
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/12/05/5th-dec-kill-team-command-roster-and-the-servants-of-the-abyss-waiting-on-cr-linkgw-homepage-post-3/

>28/09/18 Errata
https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/kill_team_errata_en-1.pdf

>28/09/18 FAQ

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>>64184975
Can dig it! Any suggestions on starter team. The terrain that comes in the box counts.
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>>64185013
Any marine faction aside from Heretic Astartes is pretty solid (and even then they're okay if you want to do cultist spam) and fairly straightforward to play.
Really KT isn't a super complex game though, I'd go for whichever faction you think is the coolest models/lore/rules-wise.

You can download the rulebook from the OP mega and leaf through it to get an idea of what each faction has to offer.
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Hey anons I've been reading through the rules and can't decide which faction I should start with to make my first kill team. I'm divided between Admech, Necrons, and Thousand Sons. Which of these do you find the most fun?
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>>64185400
Admech, definitely. Powerful guns, but balanced by low toughness, so you need to actually move and use cover. Unless of course you bring 6 plasmas with omnispex support and just ready each turn like a faggot you are.
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>>64185400
Necrons are pretty boring in KT desu but both AdMech & Tsons are a ton of fun and get some cool rules/wargear. Really comes down to whether you want to play a team of cyborgs or Egyptian space wizards. I will say that Tsons comes with everything you'll need right out of the box though, wereas AdMech you might have to get some extra bits for a decent team.

KT is cheap enough that you could feasibly do both eventually, you only really need 1-2 boxes for each of those factions. AdMech is getting a new starter box too with a commander & some sicarians if that's something you're interested in.

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Mono-hybrid edition! (Costs that can be payed for with either 2 generic mana or one mana of a certain color.)

>To make cards, download MSE for free from here:
http://magicseteditor.boards.net/
>OR
>Mobile users might have an easier time signing up here:
https://mtg.design/

>Stitch cards together with
http://old.photojoiner.net/

>Hi-Res MSE Templates
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>Mechanics doc (For the making of color pie appropriate cards)

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>>64184621
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>>64184690
And that's that! Let me know what you think. It's been a fun and challenging project (designing a fully multicolor set is rough, especially tricolor). Honestly, though, it isn't my favorite set that I've made and I'm not too fussed to see the back of it. I'll be able to call it all the way done after tweaking and finalizing cards based on your feedback. After that, I have absolutely no idea what I should do next, though. I'll have to dream on a new concept.
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>>64184568
>CG06
Art in use: Timberwatch Elf.
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>>64184837
Bummer. I'll change that out. Thanks!
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>>64184819
>Burning Crusade
What does this accomplish by having the tokens deal damage instead of the spell that creates them?
>Musing Dreamweaver
Is this meant to let you cast any card that Dreamweaver ever exiled, or only the one that was just revealed?
>Tree of the Next Life
Maybe I'm just being a brainlet, but I'm not sure if the various uses of "it" refer to the exiled card or the creature that died.
>Worldwake
The Awaken part of this seems overcosted, even if, as I suspect, it's only there to be an emergency option for someone who controls no creatures.
>Flaming Martyr
Why doesn't the Inspirit effect grant trample and haste when all of the other Inspirit cards also transfer keywords?
>Earthen Contempt
XUU bounce X creatures at instant speed seems a bit strong.
>Mirrorgrowth
Even at 7 mana I strongly suspect that this card is way too good.
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>>64185327
>What does this accomplish by having the tokens deal damage instead of the spell that creates them?
Nothing much beyond flavor, really.
>Is this meant to let you cast any card that Dreamweaver ever exiled, or only the one that was just revealed?
Just the one that was exiled that turn.
>The Awaken part of this seems overcosted, even if, as I suspect, it's only there to be an emergency option for someone who controls no creatures.
Yeah, it's a mana sink, not necessarily the main draw of the card.
>Why doesn't the Inspirit effect grant trample and haste when all of the other Inspirit cards also transfer keywords?
Oversight on my part. Fixed now, thanks!
>XUU bounce X creatures at instant speed seems a bit strong.
What cost would you suggest?
>Even at 7 mana I strongly suspect that this card is way too good.
Should I bump it up to 9cmc, like Clone Legion?

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>GM/Player
>System Preferred
>Times Available (with timezone!)
>Voice/Text
>Method of Play (Skype, IRC, roll20, etc)
>Contact Info
>Additional Notes
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and i fucked up the name of the thread. never gonna make another GFT again
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Is either the guy who mentioned running ASOIAF or the guy who mentioned running Eberron here? I'm still interested in both.

>>64185179
Cringe

>>64185203
Based

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Necromancy doesn't exist, so what's the default evil school of magic that's banned everywhere, is seen as generally evil, ect? Bonus points for being unconventional.
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>>64169334
Evocation.
There is no point for evocation in a modern peaceful society. You're literally playing around with fire. These spells of war can only be cast to harm others.
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>>64169334
>implying Necromancy is actually evil in and of itself
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>>64184590
>Abjuration & Evocation are not inherently bad in any way
They aren't inherently evil, but nor are they inherently good - succubi use Abjuration magics to conceal the fact they mean to suck your soul out through your lips, and Balors use Evocation to boil the collective flesh off of an entire city's bones.
>Necromancy & Enchantment either pollute the world with negative & anathema energies to life itself or robs people of free will. While they can be used for good causes, they by nature are bad for life.
This is more complicated, and depends on the metaphysics of the setting. They're both near the bottom of the list for a reason, but simply put: the schools as a whole have no individual agency, and as such cannot be considered lowercase-g-good or lowercase-e-evil.

For anyone who can't think of positive uses, Enchantment spells can be used to halt potential battles before a single drop of blood is spilled, motivate people to surpass the limits of their own mental fortitude, or help them recover from psychological trauma, just as Necromancy, depending on the setting, could be used only on willing subjects, can diagnose and triage the injured to heal them better, or even limit itself to the simplest spells to act like precision Evocation.
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>>64184645
That's not magical fire, so it's not as bad. Magical fire is mine only. As long as they pray or thank me at least once in their lives I'm okay with it.
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>>64185331
I never said Abjuration or Evocation were “good” in an alignment sense. Just Morally good as in morally okay, “good to go” in other words.

Necromancy & Enchantment must be put to good use to counter the inherent deplorable nature & even then most would be dubious of it.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/jan/21/heroin-for-middle-class-nerds-how-warhammer-took-over-gaming-games-workshop

Nice article about GW in The Guardian.

I fell out with GW a decade or so ago, nuGW are better but still haven't tempted me back into being a good boy and dropping £300 on an army.
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The Guardian is the only large newspaper giving climate change the coverage it warrants with the urgency its due, so its good in my book.
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>>64184756
That kind of thing is exactly why the assholes in this thread despise it.
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>>64182622
If GW is the 'Heroin for middle-class nerds' than MtG must be crocodile.
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>>64182622
>the guardian
Into the trash it goes.
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What's an upper class nerd hobby?

Anyone else play it? Playing the Grand Campaign here, and been wondering when I should be getting married. Do I wait it out for a chance to get some extra manors and glory, or do I get married ASAP to secure an heir?

Also general Pendragon thread
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>>64184670
Not totally sure, I was considering just having mechs be your combined armour and horse. Maybe have outside-of-mech combat use daggers for damage and very low armour values.
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>>64184598
Anon...were you in the Knights of Avalon threads?
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>>64185073
>Knights of Avalon threads
I wasn't. Thanks for the tip, looks like some good inspirational material there. Gonna head to bed, though, be back if the thread is still up by the morning.
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>>64185148
I'll lend a hand and throw you a doc.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Cm16GUoQtg5IqTe0FM9dKD15TpJGpkOf0Zzi5TS3BGM/edit?usp=drivesdk
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>>64184489
I would but they would certainly get some odd looks, especially starting out. All unproven knights are given some guff but the guff would be extra in this case. Then again a rich famous Dame would be very popular with men at court who would push very hard to back her up in the hopes of marrying such a knight.

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Thread Topic: Non-Primarch Details

Old Thread: >>64073230

What once started as a simple smut thread, soon developed into a different, mostly serious retelling of the Heresy, with an previously unseen scramble of the Loyalists and Traitor legions, alongside new concepts, troops and history!

WIP Pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/fPpY1DsD

WIP 1d4chan article:
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/The_Great_Primarch_Scramble


The Loyalist Traitor divide!


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>>64180705
The failure of not stopping Dorn?

I like it!
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>>64181915
The Eternal Crusade, to bring their damned Father to justice.

Let none rest while the heretic still draws breath.
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>>64182015
How appropriately Black Templar!
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Oh well.

Looks like steam has finally run out. I think I'll let the thread go to page 10 after this post.

Will there be a thread 12?

Only time will tell.
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>>64185410
Well, someone has to update the 1d4chan page anyway.

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This board (and honestly this whole hellsite) is full of negativity, that guy this, magical realm that, I think a palette cleanser might do some good.

This thread is for cute /tg/ things, tell us about adorable things that happened in your games, the sickly sweet courtships either in or out of games, or even the little things in your world(s) that give you the warm fuzzies.
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>>64177871
>It genuinely wasn't always like this.
This. Its almost like a lot of people took the "internet hate machine" jokes a little too seriously. We've never hated everything. Sure there have always been disagreements about the tiniest of details, but there have also been times when whole boards band together behind something fun or interesting. Deep Rot would be a great example for /tg/, but other boards have their own little shining moments.
On the other hand the last year has just been exhausting. Even old classics are being attacked because they're "cringe" or whatever buzzword is in the last month. Nothing can just be left alone and enjoyed anymore. I don't really know what caused it. Maybe its post election antagonism, maybe its the ironic cynicism that 4chan has classically trucked in becoming less ironic as people move in that don't get the joke.

Or maybe I'm just getting too old to keep up. I've been here for 11 years, maybe I need to move on, but I have nowhere else to go.
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>>64185056
im inclined to agree. only been here five years, but I've noted it too.

nice to have you around regardless anon. here's to a happier future
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>>64185056
Why doesn't a good /tg/ alternative exist?
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>>64185323
Because a good 4chan alternative doesn't exist.

There just isn't a place that has the same kind of culture about vulgarity, fun and discussion as this place. Every imitator has failed, because they simply can't attract enough oldfags to transplant the culture, if such a thing is even possible.

There are other places that discuss RPGs on the internet, but none where you can good naturedly call the other guy a niggerfaggot then go to another thread where people are seriously discussing the finer points of lamia cloacas.
Its absurd in many ways, but the vulgarity and ridiculousness is part of the uniqueness of this place.

How diverse is your gaming group, /tg/?
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>>64180870
>diversity
>giving a shit

Regardless, my group is 8 people with a black dude (who plays a rogue lmao) and two women.

How many liberal brownie points do I earn for GMing this group?
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>straight White male (me)
>straight Middle Eastern male
>straight Asian female
>bisexual Native American female
>gay Black male (usually GMs)
>asexual High Elf male
>straight Inuk female
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Mostly straight white dudes, with a few white women, an asian dude and a couple black dudes
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>>64183196
>Pure blooded Castilian Mexican Spaniard who cant speak spanish
How the fuck?

>>64183688
I've heard some of the hardcore shit says they shouldn't gamble or play anything with dice because it's insulting to their guardian angel or somesuch.

Then again, how many Christians do you know who follow Leviticus 11:9-12 re: not eating shrimp because of religious reasons? The few Muslims who I've had more than three words with weren't particularly religious.
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>>64180870
5 mestizos
4 castizos
2 castizas
no fags allowed

>endure more pain than a Dornboy and his maso-glove could ever hope to achieve. doesn't climax from it.
>so bro tier civilians willingly sacrifice their own lives out of gratitude, because they know the Lamentors are willing to die to the last man just to keep one of them safe, and they don't want to hold them back
>Zero plot armor
>history of getting their teeth kicked in by the universe itself means they stopped fighting for glory long ago, now they fight because because it is the right thing to do.
>chapter Insignia so hard to paint only experienced and dedicated painters can pull it off.
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>>64184685
More like wannabe Ultramarines, you idiot
They do everything the same except they suck at it
Say what you want about I CATO SICARIUS or Marneus but they actually can win a battle without being pointlessly slaughtered
They make lives of billions better by improving their home planet, instead of pointlessly dying "saving" handful of half-dead prisoners (who were willing to die because A) they were dead already, B) even they couldn't stand how stupid Lamenters were) helping no one
When UM are kicked, they strike back instead of pointlessly dying (again) like bitches

Really, I the only thing am still shocked about is that local alt-rightards didn't look at 'bleeding heart' chapter symbol and didn't label Lamenters some shit like SJWenters or Libtarders or some other nonsense they found on trump twitter
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>>64185145
t. smurf lord
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>>64183286
>>64184501
Absolutely righteous.

>>64185145
They're not retarded, they just have your great-great-great grandad's politics.
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>>64185145
You still got some blue paint on your lips there pal
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>>64185145
sure, like Ultramarines without the paint scheme, politics, iconography, attitude, and plot armor. The only reason the smurfs are as successful as they are is because writers bend over backwards for them. The Lamentors are meanwhile a perfectly fine functioning chapter, they're tragedy is that they're cursed by the universe to suffer no matter how much they do right. But they still drive ahead in-spite of it and that's infinitely more badass than everything always going right when it does because GW wanted their poster boys to sell.

>Really, I the only thing am still shocked about is that local alt-rightards didn't look at 'bleeding heart' chapter symbol and didn't label Lamenters some shit like SJWenters or Libtarders or some other nonsense they found on trump twitter

way to turn and already shit opinion into a mindless sperg-out

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>beginnings of the flintlock, which turned into the bolt action, which turned into the semi-automatic, fully automatic, chain gun
wtf did I just read
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>>64177219
But that's such a great thematic angle. We run in the Early Modern Period, 17th-18th century, and the advent of matchlocks and the spread of centralized government bureaucracy is forcing an upheaval. Old world aristocracy has to adapt or lose its power to banks, offices, and ministries. Standing armies are now cheaper and more easily trained and levied. Magic is finally challenged by cheaper, more accessible technology. Industrial revolutions are a great backdrop to drama.

And besides, early guns are so cool looking.
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>>64177128
I blame the Harpers
Fucking Killjoys
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>>64184835
Don't worry, I cry every time I see 99% of /tg/ discuss guns. The other day I saw a guy saying that .45 ACP blows limbs off. Fuddlore is strong among the /tg/ crowd it seems.
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>>64177128
I think people may see gunpowder as a turning point of a technological advancement beyond the standard medieval setting and resent it.

>>64185391
My mans you better give thread sauce or I'm not sleeping well tonight

Tiny Titties Edition.

What is /awg/?
A thread to talk about minis and games which fall between the cracks, or peoples' homebrew wargames. The Historical Wargames General doesn't entertain fantasy (for good reason) and the other threads are locked to very specific games, so this thread isn't tied to a game, or a genre, let's talk about fun wargames.

Any scale, any genre, any company, any minis. Skirmishers welcome. Rules designers welcome.

>Examples of games that qualify
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_miniature_wargames
Grimdark Future, Age of Fantasy, Mighty Armies, Dragon Rampant, Of Gods and Mortals, Frostgrave, Ghost Archipelago, Hordes of the Things, Songs of Blades and Heroes, Freebooter's Fate, Dark Age, Beyond the Gates of Antares, LotR and anything that doesn't necessarily have a dedicated thread (gorkamundheim).

>Places to get minis
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D2DbNJ2mYAUxh5P9Pq9NZqS5tXHGn0i2JhZchEwbA2I/edit?usp=sharing

>The Novice Troves

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>>64184734
It's like normal but it has reactions, more magic options (more than the original's like...2? Or maybe it was just 1), and some more special rules/traits you can use.

Essentially any good things said about SoBaH applies to Advanced.
The reactions are very cool, IMO, and work very easily with the basic's initiative system.
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>>64184340
> The comfiness of B&B combined with the comfiness of NTS

Yes, good, more please.
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>>64139101
So given MESBG threads have died with ~100 posts, and I haven't seen one for almost 24 hours, are we back in here?
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>>64185420
i'll be here with you anon.
Prefer if we had our own thread because this thread is a bit of a death sentance
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>>64185420
Sure

>>64185535
>because this thread is a bit of a death sentance
Why is that?

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Mesmerizing Moth Edition

Discussion of the Towergirls CYOA, RPG, Setting, or Video Games welcome here!

Everyone is welcome.

Charts:
Main Gens: https://imgur.com/a/9hzpx
Legacy Charts: https://imgur.com/a/IRtoHXh
Side Quests: https://imgur.com/a/7euVXRT

Alternate Costumes: https://imgur.com/a/xyF47FP
Fusions: https://imgur.com/a/ZlBCQbY

Fan V4 Gen:

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>>64183462
I'd like that.
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>>64181202
Your makin me love this nasty rat more then I should.
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>>64181990
Thicc earth confirmed
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>>64184720
>Tower Princess is but a part of World Princess
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Scan Begging Edition

>Thread FAQ
http://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8

>Official HH 7th Edition Errata
https://www.warhammer-community.com/faqs/

>30k TACTICA & TIPS
What to include in a HH list, how to format it, what makes each legion special (crunch), tactics, Tutorials for Heresy-era minis and more
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>HH Books, Novels and Rulebooks galore
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https://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.docdroid.net%2Ffz1OuHK%2Fcrusade-imperialis-army-lists.pdf.html

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>>64182326
My issue with centurion mode is that it doesn't represent anything, it is simply the arbitrary exclusion of units for no real reason, ZM has a theme that justifies its restrictions, centurion mode doesn't. For example lets say you wanted cinematic battles (hordes of marines battling each other and big epic duels with powerful heroes), you might do something like.
>All mandatory troop choices must number at least 20 models (for Custodes and Sisters 10 models)
>All independent characters inflict instant death with all close combat attacks, if the target has eternal warrior the attacks instead inflict d3 wounds
>Primarchs do not take up a lord of war slot
>Any independent character who doesn't have eternal warrior may purchase it for 30 points

or if you wanted light raids and scouting forces where none of the big commanders are
>May not take any lords of war
>May not take any special characters
>May not take any Lord Marshals, Blackshield Reaver Lords, Praetors, or Archmagos Prime, Archmagos Reductor, or Archmagos whatever the beep boop order is called again
>No individual unit may cost more than 300 points
>Only 2 HQs and 3 elites slots

So you can get some heavy units, but you won't be able to compile a 500 point death star with 10 two wound terminators and a murder machine praetor leading it, nor will you be able to afford 4 leviathan dreadnoughts, but the core army composition isn't affected, you can take "elite" units, but fielding them in large numbers is difficult and will likely result in using up multiple slots that could be better used elsewhere. Overall it does very little to inhibit your access of lighter and scrub units (can easily buy full sized tac squads and probably full sized assault squads with some upgrades), but since your front is of lesser concern to Horus or the Emperor you have greater difficulty acquiring elite units and heavier/rarer vehicles.
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>>64184307
Well you are a phosphex and medusa spamming scumbag so you probably deserve it.
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Are the HH/40k books worth getting into if I don't plan to play the game?
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>>64185266
>Perdition blade
>Reasonable
Ah yes it is perfectly reasonable for sergeants to kill praetors
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>>64185549
FW, yes.
BL, no.


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