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/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/. Philosophical discussion can go on either /lit/ or /his/, but those discussions of philosophy that take place on /lit/ should be based around specific philosophical works to which posters can refer.

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/lit/ is a slow board! Please take the time to read what others have written, and try to make thoughtful, well-written posts of your own. Bump replies are not necessary.

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Guide to #bookz
https://www.geocities.ws/prissy_90/Media/Texts/BookzHelp19kb.htm
Bookzz
http://b-ok.org/
Recommended Literature
http://4chanlit.wikia.com/wiki/Recommended_Reading

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Why Hume didn't burned to death?
He made A treatise of Human nature.

Like, If Spinoza had officially published the Ethics in his lifetime, he would have been burned to death. Definitely.

>"He... he is theist! he still believed in god!'
But Spinoza too! Spinoza also believed in god!
this is the truth; it doesn't matter whether you believe god or not when it comes to burning someone!
Hume didn't believe in miracles, It doesn't matter it contains Lazarus or not, why nobody burned hume?

>"there's some time gap between two, that's the difference"
I thought this is the answer, but it doesn't seem that convincing.
it is 63 years.
I mean, it is something, but not that a lot; 64 years ago from today Nabokov made Lolita. What happened to it since then? it is something, but not that much.
If this can apply to today, then what does it happened to Hume?

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>>13324657
I think his philosophical works weren't that popular.
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>>13324657
you do realize that the British broke from Rome in 1532? Hume was born nearly 200 years later.
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>>13324657
>>"He... he is theist! he still believed in god!'
wasn't he openly agnostic?

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How many pages did you read today?
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I finished a book and started another. I think I'm about 40 pages into it. I don't know why you guys worry so much about page count though.
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Technically 30 but it was all programming book, can't get myself to finish beyond good and evil since this is my second philosophy books and philosophers love speaking like anime villains at times. You know what l'm gonna read before bed just because of how pissed l am. Philosophy is just fanfiction for the universe
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>>13323873
skimmed a 300page book
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>>13323873
About 30. Coming towards the end of Journey to the End of the Night...things are getting subtly sadder and more bleak.
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10

What are some examples of songs with great lyrics in your opinion?

inb4 Dylan
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>>13324515
since you posted the pic


The glass was raised, the fired rose
The fullness of the wine, the dim last toasting
While at port, adieu or die

A choke of grief heart hardened I
Beyond belief, a broken man too tough to cry
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Headlong little one into the wild unknown
with creatures and the cold night
Stay strong, the sounds of screaming's just a sacred rite
Of death begetting new life.

Lay me down on sacramenral ground
Lay me low in times of woe.

There's a road less travelled and a life less led.
It's the path between your spirits and the voice in your head.
We are here but for the grace of everything divine.
It's the providence we must find.

These two know how to write lyrics. Husband and wife from Rhode Island. Between them they know 11 instruments I think. Guy died from leukemia a couple years ago so their last album was recorded as he was doing chemo. Like a howl from hell.
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>>13324515
And there's always a place for the angry young man
With his fist in the air and his head in the sand
And he's never been able to learn from mistakes
So he can't understand why his heart always breaks
But his honor is pure and his courage as well
And he's fair and he's true and he's boring as hell
And he'll go to the grave as an angry old man...
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>>13324515
Já conheço os passos dessa estrada
Sei que não vai dar em nada
Seus segredos sei de cór
Já conheço as pedras do caminho
E sei também que ali sozinho
Eu vou ficar, tanto pior
O que é que eu posso contra o encanto
Desse amor que eu nego tanto
Evito tanto E que no entanto
Volta sempre a enfeitiçar
Com seus mesmos tristes velhos fatos
Que num álbum de retrato
Eu teimo em colecionar
Lá vou eu de novo como um tolo

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Rap has the best lyrics by far, it's strange that people still post white people indie bands when rap literally stands for 'rhythm and poetry' but I guess it shows you how deep racism is.

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what are some books about being a fat NEET slob?
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>>13324616
thus spoke zarathustra
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>>13324616
Oblomov
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>>13324616
De imitatione Christi

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KING ARTHUR EDITION
>Which is the best Arthurian retelling?
>Is Guinevere a whore?
>What have you been reading?

Monthly Reading for June: Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny

Monthly Reading books: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/15ZwgDZVXB-nLqjbgcqgntZDyTddd0eqP

Fantasy:
https://imgoat.com/uploads/0935e4cd59/105363.jpg
https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21328.jpg
Flowchart:
https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21327.jpg


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>>13324532
Your link shows it's in Hidden Turnings https://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Turnings-Diana-Wynne-Jones/dp/0749702796/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=hidden+turnings&qid=1560924876&s=gateway&sr=8-1 which is pretty much minimum-price paperback on Amazon
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>>13324357
It's probably not the existence of ideals that anon finds cringe as much as the slavish adherence to someone else's. Seeing edgy memes as the literal return of the National Socialist German Worker's Party gives off the impression you've drank in a little too much propaganda.
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>>13324546
Thanks bro! I had checked amazog for that one a few weeks ago and it was out of stock
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>>13324589
no worries, I should have assumed you'd checked
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>>13322837
Nothing you say can change the fact that some things are shittier than others. Blue mage raised by dragons reads entirely like a Twitter post made by a fat deviant deviantart furry.

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>Why, yes! My favorite author is Gene Wolfe, how did you know?
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>>13322883
wat?
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>>13321388
tumblr or twitter, esp the furry communities
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>>13321043
I need to smash
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>>13324634
No way im getting involved with furries man
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>>13321452
Its not gay if the balls dont touch

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Is there a semi-modern book about the modern phenomenon which I've coined as the Stair effect from the infamous Randy Stair incident and his life.
An inner developed misandry fabricated by male-dominated bullying, feminism and absent fathers making boys crave a gender change. An OC created fantasy land on the internet growing from personal Isolation. A fascination with death, mass killings and genocides as young people are disconnected with reality and connected to wires of data, not seeing any other possible future than black goo made into sexy goo girls with different food colours inside them.
Each moment is a step further up towards absolute loss of what and who you are.
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I can think of Mark Fisher to an extent
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>>13323445
Literally and unironically, my diary desu
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>>13323607
interesting oc, but what's the drawing?
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>>13323445
Of course not. Nobody want to give him a legacy.
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>>13323445
Just write your own book

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Is it worth reading?
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>>13324520
That's literally the marker for a definite indirect object in Hebrew. It's used thousands of times in the Bible, Jews in Israel say it thousands of times a day.
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>>13324401
... pic looks like fake. there's no way you can fit into that small when it is over 1000 page
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>>13324536
that's the version for americans
is this better?
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>>13324536
very thin pages. Have you ever touched a bible?
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>>13324646
Yeah I have it, with very thin pages, and I'm pretty sure if pic is possible page should be 1/3 more thin

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How do I start enjoying reading?
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>>13321875
Start with genre fiction, even comic books if you have to.
Then read popular, easy to read classics like 1984 and Frankenstein, work your way to a little harder materiel like Grapes of Wrath, and then move your way back through time reading 19th century doorstoppers like Les Miserables and War and Peace, and then keep going back till you get to Shakespeare and the Greeks.

Ignore non-fiction fags and stick to novels, short stories, plays, and poetry.
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>>13322779
Agreed
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>>13322793
why would you force yourself to read worthless shit? i dont buy into this narrative that reading is inherently more valuable than other forms of entertainment. you gain nothing by forcing yourself to read something worthless over just watching the anime or whatever. in fact its worth because you dont even enjoy it. if we're talking nonfiction then sure it's worth it to force you because you learn. if you read books that have cultural or artistic value i guess it sort of makes sense but its still not really any better than watching a movie or listening to music that has these values.
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>>13324258
>its still not really any better than watching a movie or listening to music that has these values.

>hour and a half movie about something
>45 min album about something
>1200 page novel about something
if you enjoy the work you're reading and you read it attentively you can gain much more from books than from any other medium
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read what you like nigger its like picking out a movie you like or an album

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and it literally happens every book
why is this subject inserted into EVERY writer worth reading?
serious spoilers ahead
I just got done reading The Princess of Babylon by Voltaire and I thought this book was gonna be the first I read that would break this trope, when all of the sudden he decides to make the arab or wahtever the guy was (the dark one mentioned at the end) just randomly walk into the princess' room and have sex with her. No ifs or buts, and it didn't add anything to the story. Literally just one paragraph where he walks in and cucks amazan and he strikes him down for it. That's it. The princess was sullied for what reason?
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>>13324446
Irony aside, if this is the way one wants to live, one ought not blather on about others sex lives.

But they bleeding do, don’t they?
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>>13324251
could be to "lift" up the women in a sense, that the dude loves her so much, and not for purity sake, that he will forgive her bla bla romance shit.

Or, its to make her a subject instead of object, so she is not just sacked by the dude but also actively acts contrary to the protagonist, and the two then aling later.
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>>13324267
>so my insecurity drew back into the past and influenced these writers to add in kekoldry into their works?
precisely

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXqPlYWJSII
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>>13324465
A weakness in my fellow is a weakness in my community, and a weakness in my community is a weakness in myself.

Permitting degeneracy is a form of self harm.
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>>13324271
Normal as in it occurs with frequency. Pointing something out as normal isn't an endorsement, little fella.

>tfw junior undergrad student, and I’m making 4k+ a month by writing shit erotica and self publishing it under pseudonym

My god anons, get in on this
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>>13324305
Nice decent cover. How did you get that?
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>>13308865

not only are you capable of putting your ego aside to write diarrhea and earn cash, you also share the tip with your fellow anons. Thank you /lit/bro. I'm no good writer but I might /ic/ my way through tailor made degenerate porn for rich weebs. Art doesnt sell unless you suck cock in certain closed circles.

Also when you write this kind of stuff is it mainly for chicks ? Do you target a specific audience ?
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>>13324561
I already had the adobe cloud suite, so I found a picture on adobe's stock photos after searching "sexy business woman". Threw it into illustrator because I haven't installed photoshop. Found two silly fonts. Aligned it to where there was white space for the font.

Also I had no idea what I was doing for keywords, it's pretty vanilla other than the cuck/voyeur stuff at the end so I doubt it'll reach much an audience, Probably went too into physical detail than emotional, and I chose a dude's pen name and not a womans. But I just thought LANCE BASTION was such an absurd and silly name I couldn't resist. It's only 3889 words with two sex scenes. We'll see how it goes. I haven't ever read actual smut, only manga from exhentai.
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>>13324613
ty 4 Dtailed explanation I should subs adoB
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>>13324656
Np, I will post sales updates either for the "HOLY SHIT I MADE SOME MONEY" or the "lmao 3.50"

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>2019
>He thinks being an atheist is edgy
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>>13322282
>/lit/'s top 100 is 99 books of fiction, and the bible
really makes one reflect
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>>13324442
Not gonna lie, that's not a bad beard.
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why's there always such a spergout on this topic
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>>13324626
like pottery

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What's the trick to running a good book club?
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>>13322575
Reading alone.
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>>13322575
Permissive shoe policy
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>>13322575
Start with short books, give at least two weeks to read each one, and meet in person to discuss...no group chat, email, IM, whatever. If there's no physical commitment to discuss, people will bail out.
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>>13323469
What do you plan on saying to them about literature?
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>>13324615
This is it. Decide on the next book in person, discuss the book in person, and absolutely no microblogging at each other like zoomer faggots.

Also brew your own beer and serve at meetings.

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Who are the 10 greatest English language writers?
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>>13321856
Joyce
Hemingway
Salinger
DH Lawrence
James
McCarthy
Waugh
Woolf
Poe
O'Neill
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>>13323453
I forgot Fitzgerald.
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>>13321934
Nabokov is probably top 5, read The Gift and Pale Fire
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>>13322082
>not including Wobbleassagai
Imagine being this retarded
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>mfw James is starting to be a thing on /lit/


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