This board is for the discussion of classic, or "retro" games, including consoles, computer games, arcade games (including pinball) and any other forms of video games. Retro gaming means platforms launched in 2001 and earlier, and official game titles for those platforms released no later than December 2007 (homebrew console games made after this date will be permitted). The Microsoft Xbox, Nintendo GameCube, Nintendo Game Boy Advance, and Sony PlayStation 2 will now be considered "retro".Helpful links:Game Tech WikiEmulation General Wiki
is there any real reason to use a real ps2 over picrel?
>>10788109maybe early on, but by mid-2000s they were making CRT TVs compact and more lightweight. monitors became flat panels during that time
>>10786552NoThere is absolutely nothing that justify the usage of the original hardware at this pointOnly a sttuborn and retarded rejects the benefits and convenience.
Reminder that statistically speaking, half of the "emulation isn't as good as the real thing" people are in fact PALfags playing slowed down 50hz shit with fucked up aspect ratio
>>10788252Some games are better at 50hzNamely shmups aren't stupid hard anymoreAnd european-made gamesThe aspect ratio thing is pretty bad though, I'll admit. Though not all PAL games have itFurthermore yuro PS2s can play NTSC games too, anyone on /vr/ with a modded PS2 is running NTSC versions
>>10786552It's called soul. Ever heard of it?
As early gen Z kids start approaching their 30s, the image Sonic had in people's minds keeps changing.Nobody will exactly know how it was to be a Sonic fan in 1993.Like in 1993 we still didn't even get the first Bad Sonic game until late 93 and that was a spinoff.
>another subtle nostalgia thread.
>>10785617JEEEEEELAAAAAAYYYY ON THE HIGHWAYYYY
my ass farting
I have a zoomer gf and we have completely different ideas of Sonic.I will be sperging about how awesome the roaming romans actually are while she's reading shadow x Sonic fanfics.It's completely different universes.
>>10785610I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as the Master System, is in fact, the Sega System.
Croc 2 is better than 1 and I’m tired of pretending otherwise
>>10788068Croc 1 is objectively a mediocre game compared to it's peers, I don't know why it's as popular as it is.
>>10788068It's really not. Worse music, more bland levels, really bad boss fights from what I remember.>>10788097You haven't lived>>10788139Croc is the grandpa of its peers
>>10788142>Croc is the grandpa of its peersSM64 and Crash both came out before Croc and both shit all over Croc in every way. The whole "le Croc invented le 3d platformer concept" is such a tragically pathetic cope.
>>10788163Croc was already being shown to Nintendo as a Yoshi game long before either of those two came out
>>10788164And SM64 was already in production long before any talks between Nintendo and Argonaut.
I didn't like it. At all. 6 shits on this game.
>>10786516>FF8 & FF9 did graphics & story better.No, they didn't. And they especially did a poorer job of balancing the storytelling with the gameplay than 7
They're all bad.
You are right.
>>10786356To be fair, LA shits on LttP. Dunno why you'd have a hate-boner, but as someone who played LA before LttP, it was definitely an obvious downgrade and I didn't get what all the hype was about.
>>10786516>practically unplayable in this day & ageI'll give you graphics but I don't see how Materia is more of a filter for a first time player than Junctions.
Tell me about those video games you can't remember the name of. With search engines getting more useless by the day people have to help each other.
>>10782324Sure it wasn't a 'Nam game?
>>10783461Jade Empire? (probably not lol)
>>10785591No, that's not it unfortunately. Thanks for trying though.It's got some simple MIDI soundtrack. You play as a character who is the only survivor of a nuclear war who wanders a nuclear desert wasteland in vain trying to find any survivor of the nuclear blasts. Might have had the word 'rose' in the title but that's never given me any substantial results on google because I think it was fairly obscure.
>>10788272Oh, and it's from the main characters first person point of view.
>>10788272>>10788275>>10785591Good Lord. I found the bloody thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v60OPx6u0bY http://www.jonas-kyratzes.net/games/last-rose-in-a-desert-garden/(Wish I hadn't. it's depressing af)
Another great beat 'em up that I would personally recommend for all.
Shredder's Revenge is better
>>10788239That's not mode7, actually it's a background layer hidden and when you toss a ninja, it passes its color and sets its orientation before enabling it. You can see it while lurking the tilemap viewer. True mode7 are the level transitions after the Technodrome stage and the entirety of Neon Night Riders.
>>10788239> Mode 7 throw across the screenLiterally only best thing about the game.And they even managed to fuck that up too, no one tells you how to actually do it but you need it to defeat Shredder.HH may be a visual/musical downgrade compared to SNES and arcade ones but its pacing and controls make you feel like a ninja turtle on top of the world.
>>10788271>no one tells you how to actually do itRead the manual, it tells you how to do it. Think twice before rambling like that and HH's pacing is terrible
>>10788278>manualWho do you think i am, a first-worlder?
Just started this game, what am I in for? Also how is the sequel, I think most people say that's the better game?
>>10783565Its ok. None of these weird old From games drag on long enough for me to get mad at themPro tip: if you wield elemental weapons your ring spells do more damage
>>10783609I wish I liked this guy, he picks shit I'm interested in but something about him is low charisma
>>10786159King's Field is the Velvet Underground of video games
>>10786610I watched the video. He's not bad at doing what he does and he does convey information well and make you want to avoid or play the games accordingly, but he definitely is more of a "watch while you are doing something else" type of guy.
>>10787198Sad to say I watched the first half of the video. He didn't seem to "get" that the game is not actually linear.
Why doesn't it get talked about more often? You'd think something attached to the Star Wars brand would have a legacy in gaming circles—there were even countless times where I picked up on something that Half-Life blatantly copied from this, yet Half-Life gets all the credit. I just beat it and it's a top 10 FPS for me, easily.
>>10787840lol you just dont know wtf youre talking aboutit was THE doomclone. the one that actually pushed past just being another doomclone in a sea of doomclones, into being its own unique thinggame was huge>>10787858>For some reason they don’t get hyped up now.makes zero sense considering the popularity of its sequelsif anything id guess its that star wars, as a franchise, has been adrift for like 10yrs in the absolute doldrums of pop entertainment thanks to its acquisition by disneyif you were a kid today, would you be a star wars nerd? i doubt it. the movies are garbage, and the games are financially predatory garbage
>>10788264>2 replies in 6 hours>"lol you just dont know wtf youre talking about"Evidently this game has been forgotten
>>10788268im not talking about now retardread the rest of my post. i know exactly why its forgotten nowthe game was all over every PC mag of the day. go look
>>10788274>im not talking about now retardI AM, YOU FUCKHEAD, READ THE OP
>>10788264The EA exclusivity deal killed it. There was a period of five years with zero new Star Wars games to put under the xmas tree. Disney seemed to not understand the product is nostalgia and didn't appreciate the value of its association with xmas morning.I've met several late millennials and zoomers who have not seen an entire Star Wars movie.i played War Thunder for a bit because it was the closest thing to a Star Wars game for a few years
I saw a neighbor play this 30 years ago, it had some cool music, but for 30 years I've been trying to find the name of this game because I never saw it anywhere ever again.Today I came across a video showing random games without any description and I knew this was it, so I took a screenshot.Anyone know?
>>107881302 people doesn't equal all of 4chan
Apparently the Japanese box uses a Chinese character for one of the kanji and no one in Japan can actually write the name out.
>>10788187Absolutely false.
>>10788187It appears to just be a non-standard simplification of the character 魔 consisting of the same madare radical (广) with a katakana ma (マ) inside it instead of all the strokes that are inside 魔.It seems to be known as a way to handwrite that character, but isn't actually an officially recognized character, so it can't be typed on a computer.
>>10788226It's unbelievably common.
Time for a Q&A thread about the bygone act of renting games. Pardon my sperging>Did you rent games?Yes, frequently. I got a 5 dollar weekly allowance and I realized I could spend that on a 4 night rental on Friday and get more bang for my buck then saving up for 3 months so I could buy some piece of shit like Bubsy. Frequent rentals allowed me to play a huge chunk of the NES, SNES and N64 library - something I would have never been able to do otherwise.>Where did you rent your games?We had like 5 different rental stores in my town and I had a childhood autist mental inventory of the games available at each one. I spent most of my time at a local chain called Box Office Video. I could ride my bike there and mom would give me extra money in the summer to go down there as a means of getting me out of the house. I would spend hours at these places. If something I wanted was checked out but due in that day, I would hang out for HOURS waiting for it to come back.>Any favorite "rentalcore" games? Stuff that might have made a slightly disappointing 60 dollars purchase but a kickass weekend rental?Too many to count really. Beat-em-ups when I had friends over were common.>When did you stop renting games? Do you remember the last one you rented?Sometime in the PS2 era. Your average game was getting too long to beat in a single rental. Plus I had gotten burned too many times renting scratched up games that didn't work. I think the last thing I ever rented was Onimusha 2>Anything else interesting?Not game related, but one of the first video stores in my town, Simply Video used to put their VHS tapes in these very nice vinyl bound clamshell cases. It always reminds me of how VHS was considered a pricey, premium product in it's day.
>>10785603Not only are you objectively wrong, but being "rentalcore" often has nothing to do with how the game was designed; it's simply a symptom of a game that's fun, but not good/replayable enough to own, or is easy/short enough to beat in a single weekend.>>10785713>A game rental was usually 5 or less.I wanna say my local mom and pop rental shop charged 3.50 for a 4-day rental during the NES era.>>10784412>Anything else interesting?I own a rental copy of FF7 that I bought from a used record/comic/game store several years ago. It's still got a hand-written sticker on the front reminding the renter to return all discs AND the manual. I kinda just bought it for the novelty factor of owning a copy of the game that dozens of people played before, and probably not many ever beat. I feel like it deserved a good home.Also bought Robin Trower's Bridge of Sighs from the same store that day. Stellar album.
>>10784412>Did you rent games? / Where did you rent your games?Hell yes. We used to have this game rental shop that had all Famicom and Genesis games you could ever want. There was also blockbuster and your local mom n pop video stores, bit this place trumped all. Going there with my dad and picking a kickass game for the weekend was an amazing bonding experience.>Any favorite "rentalcore" games? Stuff that might have made a slightly disappointing 60 dollars purchase but a kickass weekend rental?None that immediately come to mind. Maybe Casino Kid or Side Pocket, back when my dad was teaching me how to play pool and poker.>When did you stop renting games? Do you remember the last one you rented?When emulators became all the rage the thing to had was a CD with 500 SEGA Roms, so when my dad gifted it to me one Christmas it instantly made renting obsolete. I think the last game I rented may have been Jungle Strike.>Anything else interesting?This Q&A really made me miss the old fucker. Also it really puts into context how disruptive emulation was in south american shit holes like mine. Game shops pretty much stopped bothering with rentals right there.
I always thought it was funny seeing these stickers on the games.
>>10788191What's funny about that?
>>10788191It turns out that rewinding a VHS tape immediately after you're done watching is like one of the worst things the average consumer could have done; after being heated up inside the VCR for 1.5+ hours, the magnetic tape and the data on it are far more prone to damage. Immediately rewinding it--or worse; putting it in a hi-speed tape rewinder--was like putting it on a torture rack.I never questioned it until I got into collecting VHS a few years back and started to notice some "Be kind, DON'T rewind" stickers on some tapes. Crazy, we were all indoctrinated into doing the literal worst thing because most people know fuck-all about technology.
What is the scariest/creepiest/most disturbing/most oppressive retro game in your opinion? Doesn't necessarily have to be survival horror. I'm just curious about what you guys think and even want to find something new to play
>>10788052Flintstones for the NES, that caveman dracula castle level is spooky as fuck
>>10788052Well Silent Hill 1 easily and its not even close. I still do not consider PS2 retro so I can't include the SH games on there. Going by how you worded this post though, SH1 still wins this category.
>>10788258Why do you consider PS1 retro?
>>10788072Unironically, this. I shat my pants at that giant Frankenstein as a kid.Some other bosses like that huge jumping jerk with a hammer were creepy too
Why can't other franchises compete with Dragon Ball retro games? Why does it stand so far above everything else in the realm of retro games in terms of success and memorability?
>>10787038That's cool, crazy to think somewhere outside of Japan there were other Famicom generations
>>10785849>>10785859Look at this way, Final Bout is a game that sold millions and was beloved, but it's not good. I like to stick Final Bout on now and then because it is fun despite being completely broken, but I wouldn't call it good.
>>10788198There was a period of time after DBZ started to become popular in North America, but the GBA and PS2 games hadn't come out yet. Because of this, Final Bout, which had come out in the US in 1997 SKYROCKETED in value. I remember it was the most expensive game on the Funcoland price list. A friend of mine tracked down a copy at a Blockbuster in another town and we rented it...and MAN we were disappointed. We mainly just watched the intro cinematic over and over again.
>>10783273>>10783293>Be me, on holiday with family in France during the summer of 2001>Have GBA but only Game Boy games for it since family were waiting for "special events" such as Christmas and Birthdays to buy more vidya.>Stopped off at a Hypermarket (what France calls supermarkets for some reason) while on the journey back home>Parents decided I could have TWO new games cos we were on holiday, and they hadn't spent as much as planned during the trip>Trawl through the vidya section of this Hypermarket>Aww yis Super Mario Advance, finally an actual GBA game for my system!>Notice some older games, all sealed, must be unsold stock.>See Goku and Vegeta in the Buu arc art style, notice Vegetto at behind them as well>Dragon Ball Z Hyper Dimension for SNES>Fuck yes!>I'm now the envy of my Britbong pals.France had quite a few Dragon Ball games during the 90s, since it was all the rage there long before the US and UK got the Toonami airing.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
French too here and I vividly remember playing Final Bout at a friends house in the early 00's. He was the most normie friend I had who only cared about football and other sports but he had a PSOne with the screen and about 3 games: Resident Evil which he never played for more than 30 mins, a football game, and Final Bout because he claimed to be the biggest DBZ fan the earth has ever known.The game is shit but it's okay as a pass time for 2 teenagers in 2000 I guess. Anyway the point of the story is that Final Bout came out on the right platform at the right time so everyone was all over it, but really even the Famicom RPGs are better designed games
The AIDs Avenger for SNES has never been found.https://youtu.be/9z3aUzyd8_Q?t=176
How will I know to use a condom now? At least Germans had Zelda to tell them.
Is that Captain Vidya?
>>10788076Midna was made for wolf cock. simple as.
>>10788076see that bloom setting? set it to MAXIMUM
I wonder if the original gimmick was control animals, and that got whittled down to you play as a wolf, and you can kind of play as a hawk, and you heard some sheep for like five minutes.It would make sense.
>>10788205Like zero fun factor compared to either of the three transformations in Majora.
>>10788202DESPITE ALL MY RAGE