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This board is for the discussion of topics related to business, economics, financial markets, securities, currencies (including cryptocurrencies), commodities, etc -- as well as topics relating to starting and running a business.

Discussions of government policy must be strictly limited to economic policies (fiscal and monetary). Discussions of a political nature should be posted on >>>/pol/. Global Rule 3 is also obviously in effect.

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Begging or asking for 'free money'/crypto is strictly forbidden. Encouraging beggars, or posting any kind of 'free money' offer is also strictly forbidden.

THERE WILL ONLY EVER BE 21 MILLION BITCOINS IN EXISTENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

based satoshi
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>>12809337
Core dev here! Before you make definitive statements like that we should discuss a few things about the Lightning network and how it will affect protocol economics...
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>>12809447

REE ...
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>>12809447
Peter did say there might be a proposal to keep inflation at 1% but we're 10+ years from even debating it
Personally I believe merged mined sidechains plus main chain fees will be enough to reward the miners for their service

As bad as fees were at the end of 2017 it proved miners can be rewarded without block rewards
In the future several efficiency upgrades will make on chain much cheaper (schnorr, channel factories, LN and sidechain consolidation)

It'll be alright we're not even half way to the point of the window closing and we already proved the system works fine with higher fees although not optimal for users
We will straighten it out I'm like 80% sure
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>>12809671
>As bad as fees were at the end of 2017 it proved miners can be rewarded without block rewards
The point is if money keeps circulating in LN/Layer2 the fee market may not work as planned. I'm just meming for the btcbugs, I don't really care about this and find his comments to be completely reasonable.

>In the future several efficiency upgrades will make on chain much cheaper (schnorr, channel factories, LN and sidechain consolidation)
Part of his point.
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>>12809447
Bitcoin will unironically drop to 0 if they ever decide to change the static supply.

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If you aren't shorting this you a retard and you deserve to die.
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I haven't even entered yet, we're gonna test $3k
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>>12809506
Shorting the bottom is as retarded as longing the top. If you faggot fucks got out of tether and other stable coins we’d be at 10k easy.
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>Anjali Tyagi
Damn pajeets.
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We'll test 1k range before any real reversal. Of course there will be mini pumps along the way but the Bear is far from over.

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what was your biggest financial regret, /biz/?
>what were the signs that you should have done / not done something
>what have you learnt from the experience
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>>12809700
not selling when i had 90k, now around 4k :(
i learned i should probably kms, but lack the courage unironically
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>>12809849
The mining boom was in 2011, a single hd5870 could mine like 1-2 btc per day
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Back in jan 2018 biz donated me over $1.4k in crypto. I made a post about how my house was and it touched the hearts of many anons here.
I thought I should honor that and keep holding, even when I needed the money. I could have used it to move to other place and start a better life. I ended up selling all of it several months down the road, obviously for very low, and my life is been significantly worse since.
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>>12809855
Accept your fate and build from it. Noone likes a winner, they like the story of strife/despair that leads to success.
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>>12809700
Only using BTC to buy drugs/ using BTC got from deals to sell and buy shit on steam.

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How low are going to dip? I have buys staggered from 31 down to 25 sats. Will they get filled?
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>>12809678
The people will own the cloud retard
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We will be hosting from our spare computers, smart phones and HoloPorts all getting paid of course too
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>>12809714
>>12809726
kek, thats what literally every scam project out there claim, holo is just another one of those scam projects. You are incredibly low IQ to believe their lies.
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>>12809810
Keep buying more link and hope sergay will save your ass
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Holo elimantes the need for 99% of existing crypto so its only natural for all the attacks and they will continue or they will join

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You make your own trading decisions edition

>I'm new to the stock market, what stocks should I buy?
Before you buy anything, make a brokerage account and read investopedia articles and/or the books in the OP list. If you don't have a broker, you can't buy stocks and if you blindly buy things without understanding how the stock market works or doing any research on the individual stocks you're buying, you will lose money and it will be entirely your fault.

List of popular brokers:
https://pastebin.com/mrSchZPg

List of basic stock market terminology for newfags:
https://pastebin.com/VtnpN5iJ

Real-time market news:
https://thefly.com/index.php

Educational sites:

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THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

>>12809699
checked and get paid pupper
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SQQQUAD WHERE YOU ATTT!!!
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Really excited about SPKE you guys
Non-scientific price target is 26.57, but I'll use stop losses after $18.50
If it drops I'll average in after every 10%
I'll be happy with it as a long term hold because it has a well supported div and it's just so cute :3
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>>12809891
Losing money like the last 8 weeks.
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how can i long samsung?
is literally btfo aapl right now on stage with their new foldable phone.

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Samsung is having their much anticipated Galaxy S10 phone launch reveal today. The rumor is that this phone may have a built in crypto wallet which could be announced at this time. Live stream starts at 2pm eastern which is about 4 and a half hours from now.

Do you think the wallet rumors are real or fake? If real how big of a deal do you think this is?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISjiJQGJ72o
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That folded google map was crazy
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>>12809889
its live
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$2k for this fold thing i would rather buy 0.5 btc
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Why would I want a phone that's either too small or too big
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$1980
HJAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

Will i make it with 2000 GAS and 200 NEO?
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>>12809281
Based
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>>12809281
Whoa cool it with the racism buddy
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GAS has very less circulating supply as well. planning to convert all NEO to GAS
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GAS will be worth unironically $1000 EOY
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>>12809142
flavor of the week hundreds of weeks ago.

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Why is that shiny rock jumping up and down?
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>>12809695
wow this is sad. it's no one's fault but your own that you're broke.
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You fucking plebs. How much silver will it take to build BAbylon?
One word Neom look it up.
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>>12809713
I guess like tomorrow all manufacturers are going to immediately throw out all their silver for graphene.

Oh gee oh boy I better sell it all now! I mean forget about inflation and forget about how long it will take to figure out a process to make graphene in substantial amounts and the time it will take to start replacing silver, this is now officially a bad investment

Can you put graphene in antibiotics?
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>>12809783
Lol what the hell, I'm nowhere near broke
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>>12809816
>I guess like tomorrow all manufacturers are going to immediately throw out all their silver for graphene.

Don't recall saying that. As silver rises in price you will see substitutes becoming more widely adopted as manufacturing processes adapt. Like converting coal power plants to NG. Didn't happen overnight.

>>12809816
>Can you put graphene in antibiotics?

It looks promising.

It's getting baaad
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>>12809504

awwww.. does the twue natuwe of weality not fit with your pweshus widdle western nawative? awwww... poor baby.... shhhhh now little baby boy daddy is gonna make it all better
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I just hope it will drive the suicide rate even further.
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>>12809415
>ur dum

Big brain boye
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>>12809172
It is actually proven that AI is racist because the programmers are racist and feeding it tainted data sets
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>>12809548
>generally only used to automatically identify convicts who are fleeing justice

And anyone who crosses the street at a red light.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2018/11/25/chinese-businesswoman-accused-jaywalking-ai-camera-spots-face/

Don't be naive. In their test regions you have giant screens all over the place that automatically display people with full name, photograph and whatever they did wrong to publicly shame them on top of fining them.

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Just going to leave this here.
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>>12809290
Yes, only 2m currently circulating, it's the same emission speed as Bitcoin.
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>>12808328
>there are hundreds just like it in the graveyard fyi. a lot of devs have created blockchains as a learning project. don't waste your money on this kind of shit anons.
this
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im the anon that told you to wait until 3k stats to buy while twu was pumping and dumping shitcoin snow.. i still urge you to wait. this shitcoin isnt going anywhere for a long long time. if you want a real moon mission gets some chx
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stop falling for twu pump and dumps. They all die in the end leaving you holding bags.
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5,5k Snowchad here, patiently waiting for the inevitable

Pic related, Chainlink v1.0 has been launched !!!!


Since 2017 !!! Go and check webarchive for yourself !

This is confirmation its a scam !! They lied about v1.0 to grab as much ICO money as possible.
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The CL team haven't done fuck all in like the last 5 or 6 days on pivotal. wtf is going on?
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Something is definitely going on.
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>>12809857
$1k eoy !
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>>12809782
I mean, just look at that...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rebeccacampbell1/2019/02/19/this-former-us-marine-is-changing-the-face-of-law-through-the-use-of-smart-contracts/amp/
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>>12809868
Just found some dude has been contributing. He is currently working at www.ampleforth.org.

>Ampleforth is a digital asset protocol for creating fair, independent money. Founded with a mission to address the global economic conflict of interests known as the Triffin Dillemma, the Ampleforth protocol disintermediates central bank inflation by issuing supply directly to its holders using an elastic supply policy. This policy allows its currency (Amples) to avoid the devaluing effects of long-term inflation observed in fiat currencies, while re-engaging the supply mechanism that creates near-term price stability. For more information visit ampleforth.org

probably a literally who coin.

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Unironically $100 EOY, hope you own at least 4K OMG to make it.
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>>12808184
I HAVE EXACTLY 4000
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ITS AT A FUCKING DOLLAR HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHG

ARE YOU SERIOUS
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>>12809202
You're going to make it.
>>12809213
Not going to make it.
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Pfffft hahaha
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>>12808184
What does OMG do?

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15 years.
Fixed rate.
No more than 25% of your monthly take-home pay.
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>>12809372
tell me this isn't real
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>>12809325
I basically surmised that he teaches subhuman niggers how to handle their money better but he's horrible if you aren't a complete fucking idiot with money

tldr he just explains basic common sense for the ignorant
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>make 45kyr
>2200 month take home roughly
>dude just get a 15 year mortgage with a payment of 550 month
>dude math is math

Fuck this guy he expects you to live in a trailer if you aren’t making 200kyear
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>>12809459
This. If you can find the holes in Dave's advice, you've outgrown it.
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>>12809826
You actually think that a nigger has ever picked up a personal finance book? These are the people that blow 80% of their welfare cheques on clothes and shoes. He’s more of a boomer/retirement guy but yes it is typically directed towards the lower iq reader.


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