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This board is dedicated to the discussion of history and the other humanities such as philosophy, religion, law, classical artwork, archeology, anthropology, ancient languages, etc. Please use /lit/ for discussions of literature. Threads should be about specific topics, and the creation of "general" threads is discouraged.

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Remember, remember the 6th of August, remember what they took from you.
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>>7112812
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>>7112827
Germany is an abortion.
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>>7112812
Based
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>>7112844
Cringe.
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>>7112846
Correct. Germany should:
>Be abolished
>Have the multiple German speaking regions join up with Austria, Alsace-Lorraine, Luxembourg, and Belgium
>Reject the farcical shithow that is modern capitalistic democracy and embrace His Highness, King of Germany, and Holy Roman Emperor Karl von Habsburg as their rightful king and ruler

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I'm fucking tired of seeing France as the buttjoke by historically illiterate zoomers.
They have one of the richest military histories in the world. They suffer one major defeat at the hands of Germany in WW2 (when pretty much everyone else got their asses kicked too) and now they're portrayed as cheese eating surrender monkeys.
Let's disregard of course that the French laid the ground for Western Civilization as a whole under Charlemagne while Germans were just raping and pillaging barbarians. Let's disregard that it took Seven Coalition Wars and the power of combined European powers to beat Napoleon. Let's also disregard that it were the French who stopped Germans at their tracks in WW1 and had an entire male generation wiped out for their troubles.
But no, one humiliating defeat at the hands of Nazis and their entire previous history is conveniently forgotten.
They didn't had the luxury of vast amounts of space that the Russians had and they didn't had the luxury to hide on an island either.
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>>7113030
I'm not English. And the Normans being French doesn't mean that the Franks weren't Germanic.
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>>7112531
Obviously, but we're talking about history here
Current France being trash doesnt change the fact this country had a great history
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>>7113086

So I Guess that WW1 Germany and WW2 Germany were also "weak" countries since they were invaded and occupied after the peace treaty.


Listen, you're a dishonest retard and a francophobic faggot. Argumenting with you is pointless since you will always dodge my argument and divert the argument.
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>>7112571
>and so well and it's not flooded by africans ,it still in majority white.

Guess what brainlet, brown people wont stay in IDF forever
You sound like the typical retard who thinks everything is fine and who votes left because he lives in a white village in Western France away from diversity.
Eventually, diversity will move West and it will be too late to do anything about it
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>>7113144

The Franks were living in Gauls since 250-300 after JC. The Franks converted to Christianity and embrace the Gallo-roman Culture since at least 500. In 800, the Franks were civilisized Christians while the "Germanic" were barbaric Pagans tribes. In 1066, the Franks were part since centuries of the French identity and assimilated. Also, French means "Frank" in latin.

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How good was the IJN during WW2? On paper they had the third largest navy in the world in 1941 with the best trained naval aviators. They achieved great success early on but things quickly went downhill for them as they committed some massive blunders. What were their strengths and weaknesses on the strategic, operational, and tactical levels?
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The problem is it's hard to plan when you constantly hide your failures. The rest of Japan didn't know that the Battle of Midway was lost until postwar.
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their equipment at the onset of WWII was above average, particularly in the fields of night fighting, torpedo usage and naval aviation, but from 1942-onward, their weaknesses were exploited in full by the Allies. lightly armored aircraft, lightly armored ships, sub-par fire control systems and radar, and absolute fucking useless dogshit Anti-Aircraft guns.
TL;DR in the first half of WWII and before, it was a feared juggernaut. in the second half, a single American Nimitz-class carrier could wipe the floor with anything Japan had to offer
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>>7112798
They sent balloon back MB’s on the jets team to start forest fires in the northwest. One of them made it all the way to where I live in Michigan.
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>>7113133
Balloon bombs on the jetstream... damn autocorrect
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>>7113121
Why were the Japanese so good at making torpedoes? Their Long Lances had such a high speed and range that the American ships didn't know what hit them while USN torpedoes became duds half the time.

How come humanity can land on the moon but can't figure out what the other half of humanity wants?
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Based
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>>7111094
It's probably not that bad if you try to date the ones you're more compatible with(interest and looks wise).
Some women really are crazy though. Probably due to bad life experiences however, so I guess it's not 100% their fault.

This is probably going to devolve into a woman hate thread eventually so I might as well get this out of the way. Why do some women think that men like drama? pic related.
I actually seriously think quite a few if not a lot of women think this based on some of those that I have encountered in my life.

I'm a gril and I try everything in my power to avoid drama. Why would any girl think guys of all people like drama? I swear I knew a girl back in high school who was seriously considering breaking up with her bf at the time because he didn't argue with her enough. She didn't but still, wtf? I get being with a "yes men"
regardless of the type of relationship is annoying but some women really fo take it to another level.
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>>7111094
Because that other half doesn't know it themselves.
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>>7113054
I guess you learned this by being a woman... oh wait?
It's true physical attraction is not as important for women as it is for men(which is A LOT) but you mistake "less" to mean barely or non existent. How silly. We're not even going to get into the fact that obviously some women are different.
I won't date a guy if I(emphasis on I, beauty is kind of subjective) don't find him at least somewhat good looking even if we have similar interests and I have spoke to women who feel the same. I also don't care about money but that's just me.
Women want romance and a guy they can rely on. Sorry, you had just terrible experiences dating harpies. Make better decisions next time instead of dating "mean girls."
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>>7113114
>devolve into a woman hate thread
All serious contemplation on the nature of woman is ultimately framed in a contemptuous light. Even at it's best the feminine largely exists simply to get mogged by the masculine, and common woman could not be further from femininity in modern times.

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ok so im a europoor, and it strikes me as odd that the whole entire period, from 1914 to 1953 is remembered, basicaly, as two wars

so much shit happened, so much fucking drek

jews have that notion of 'the shoa', but that starts in the 1920is, and lasts until 'liberation'

but the shit didnt start or end there

there isnt one single family in the whole of europe that didnt lose someone, or loose property, or got decimated or deported or forced into fuck knows what during that 50 year period

anyone from europe will tell you, those years were hell on earth, even when there wast any war
during WW1, people concentrate on trench warfare, but wait, there was famine, scarcity of everything, mass relocations of population into camps where many died, there were mass atrocities against the civilian population on all sides

then the after war, strife, civil war, inflation, economic collapse, political collapse, mass imprisonments, starvation, police states


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what language would it be in?

I propose Hebrew.
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>>7113028
A fuckton of shit happened. It wasn’t just the Shoa. So many dictatorships, wars, massacres. ‘45 wasn’t worth celebrating in many countries, since they had one regime replaced by another (a lot of those countries were caught in the crossfire between Stalinist Communism and National Socialism). It mostly ended in ‘53, with Uncle Joe’s passing, but not entirely.
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the great g*rman spergout
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>>7113057

thetas the point, it cant fucking be hebrew, they dont own it, they got fucked like the rest of us, they shouldnt get to won a whole period in history, we all got fucked, my grandparents went trough hell and half of them died, every family i know lost people, the survivors carried that shit with them for the rest of their lives, and it dosent even matter what side which where on, one thing people dont get today is that for regular people there were no sides, the world was going up in flames

bizzare convoluted shit was going on and on, first the whole deal with the 1920is, all that crap, then the war, family killing family, neighbours denouncing neighbours, units from this side or the other raising towns and villages just because the locals 'collaborated' with wichever side, but if they didnt collaborate they would all get immediately massacred, so if one army comes along you have to feed them, the other army comes allong they kill you, allies comming to liberate you bomb your whole city to shit, burn your home kill your people, axis retreating take everything AND force recruit you into SS, and thats IF they dont just kill your whole entire town, just because
and it went on and on and on, 5 fucking years, maybe, just maybe you had the chance to run for the hills and join some resistance, in which case you just get to either die fighting, or survive to do the same shit to some other poor fucks, all the time there was nothing, no medicine, hardly any food... the storyes man, just from my family, the stories iv heard, fucking undescribable

and after the war it didnt get better, it just made it easier to kill and imprison people, and that went on for years and years

our entire population, collectively, went trough that hell, not 5 years, decades, decades

no one ethicity should have the right to 'own' that, it dosent fucking belong to them

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>town is virtually all white
>a black family moves in
>the town loses it shit, and riots until they move out
Why were whites in the 40s and 50s so shitty? They really thought one black family was gonna ruin everything
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>>7112829
t. never been to the US
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>>7112853
Maryland is about 30% black but is generally quite safe outside of Baltimore. Really makes you think.
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>>7112787
>They really thought one black family was gonna ruin everything
Damn why are Americans so shitty? They really thought one child marriage would ruin everything?

Fuck off. People wanted ethnic homogenity. They still do.
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>>7112787
>a black family moves into an all white town
why would they do that?
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>>7113071
>I'll just keep enjoying their women in the mean time...;-)
larp
other than that, you're completely right. It's darwinism, simple as that

Is belief in God natural?
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>>7113077
>They don't match Egyptian art at all.
This was *just* explained to you, you mind-meltingly dumb mongreloid. The human-animal hybrid is what is similar, and indicates no specifically animistic religious beliefs. Animals=/ Animism.
>rants about farming
Okay, and?
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>>7113107
Animism isn't about the specific beliefs because it is not conventional religion, which is why I refer to it as spirituality. The swan pendant motif found in Mal'ta buret can be seen as a swan-themes myth among the Buryats today. There is no rigorous continuity because there is no need for one- it comes naturally to people. Such veneration of natural spirits go perhaps as far back as the Early Aurignacian at least.
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>>7112883
>Is belief in God natural?
It certainly seems to be for humans.
Every single society developed a religion with theistic features at at least one point.

>Is God merciful?
Yes, since he forgives.

>Why does he subject some to a life of comfort and luxury and others to a life of torment and disease?
No idea lol

>>7112956
>Animistic spirituality is more natural.
Animistic cults are more at-hand but it has to be pointed out that those tribes (instead of imagining a man-like god) saw themselves as animal-like.
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>>7113134
>The swan pendant
Is just art you mindless dumb witted mong.
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>>7112883

Being irrational is natural

atheists will concede this

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NOOOOO, YOU CAN'T JUST SPEND EVERY DAY COPYING TEXTS BURNED BY BARBARIANS AND SPREADING KNOWLEDGE THROUGH EUROPE TO ELEVATE US TO THE FOREFRONT OF CIVILIZATION!
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>>7112848
>NOOOOO, YOU CAN'T JUST SPEND EVERY DAY COPYING TEXTS BURNED BY BARBARIANS AND SPREADING KNOWLEDGE THROUGH EUROPE TO ELEVATE US TO THE FOREFRONT OF CIVILIZATION!
The Christians were the barbarians that destroyed everything
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Thank you based monks for perfecting and inventing alcoholic drinks

https://theconversation.com/feeling-guilty-about-drinking-well-ask-the-saints-87569
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>>7113149
Alcohol is shit-tier, stop being a brainlet and use psychedelics.
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>>7113138
Muzzies did the same thing, and they didn't do nearly the same recording.

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Patreon early-access for the new Historia Civilis vid
https://youtu.be/Sj2UksH_nSI
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>>7112920
That's all true, but it has nothing to do with the original discussion.
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>>7112936
Sminem stopped the Bog menace by merging with them... for now
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>>7112984
Thanks.
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>>7110959
wow this caesar guy seems like a real tyrant
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I know you're here Brian you fucking faggot

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Any good books on the Aryan invasion? Seems interesting.
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>>7112588
lmao
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>>7109371
That shit was written way after so no
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>>7112974
Written? There were no early Aryan writing, only compositions.
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It never happened you faggot.
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>>7112987
he meant those compositions were written down half a millennia are after the invasion. I wouldn't trust pajeets with preserving the hymns uncorrupted for that long.

Should power just shift into the hands of the far less corrupt local monarchies?

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who was the most competent military mind in 20th-century Imperial japan, and why?
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>>7112816
Surrender was a seen as the ultimate shame. Very few would act cowardly and betray their nation and emperor (look at their surrender ratios).
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>>7112838
i know that, that's not what i'm asking
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>>7112816
GeneralTadamichi Kuribayashi who was the commander of the Japanese garrison at Iwo Jima m
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>>7112816
They took Singapore, the ‘Gibraltar of the East’, despite being greatly outnumbered and with bicycles.

How do crazies like this get promoted to such high military ranks? Like who was the guy that made pic related a general in the first place?
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>>7112148
System will always kill some innocents, but's that's for greater good.
It would be crazy to stop jailing all criminals because some of them are not guilty.
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>>7112150
>horseshoe theory makes no sens-
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>>7112482
>Copper wasnt even a considerable chunk of Chile's economy at that point.
why do you lie like this?
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>>7110608
the child rape and the political prisoners were separate incidents
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>>7112173
thanked for what? tanking the economy?
>>7112482
whatever helps you sleep at night pinochet cuck

>Germany
>USSR
>Japan

Why didn’t any of these three nations use chemical weapons during WW2? All three had them, and all three are responsible for numerous violations of the Geneva convention, so what made them not use chemical agents?
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>>7110646
Oh shut the fuck up. By 23 April 1945, Krauts probably didn't even had any chemical weaponry left in their possesion. Their territory by that time was reduced to a small area around Berlin.

And daily reminder that krauts DID use chemical weapons in WW2, against Russian defenders of Sevastopol during closing stages of its Siege in May of 1942.

And yes, nowadays if say, Chinks invaded US mainland Americans would have launched all of their 5000 nukes against them. Do you even know what MAD is you dumbass?
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>>7109517
No, they wouldn't have won you dumb fuck. Russians would actually get preety mad, and would gas krautshits along the front in return.
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>>7108794
japan DID use chemical weapons in China, if you regard WWII as beginning before September 1st, 1939.
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>>7109054
Link?
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>>7108794
>Why didn’t any of these three nations use chemical weapons during WW2?

They were highly ineffective. World War I showed ways of getting around it. There was small minor usages like >>7108840

But it was small and inbetween.


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