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>Hitler loses WW2
>Europeans go extinct within 2 centuries
Wait... So he was right?
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>>7684627

I require sources on those numbers
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>>7684617
WASPs opposed letting Catholic white people in.
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>>7684558
Polygamy means rapid reproduction for muslims combined with aa nonstop influx of arabs frmo the middle east equals whitey as a minority in under a century. We americans have the overall largest number of whites in a single country and even now we are on the verge of being outnumbered by mexicans who reproduce much faster than us.
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>>7684624
I'm not abstaining from sex voluntarily.
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>>7684638
Nope. Notice how egalitarianism follows Anglo power structures not Jewish ones. The Jews had just as much political and social pull in the eastern block but no one gave a shit about making sure an African was fucking your wife. Egalitarianism is an Anglo fetish

Do you think it's still possible to make groundbreaking archaeological discoveries nowadays?
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>>7682574
Yeah, there is a lot that still isn't understood like from the upper paleolithic to the neolithic.
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>>7684351
Built by protojews who racemixed various populations to make a subservient goyim class to make the monuments.
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>>7684582
Semites hadn't left Africa when the site was built dumbass.
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>>7684597
Their paternal ancestors weren't Semites. The Semitic language was transferred maternally. Abraham comes from Ufra/Sanliurfa.
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>>7684641
What does Abraham have to do with anything? Even if you believe in his historicity, he's 8000 or more years AFTER the site was built, and he came from Ur in Mesopotamia, not Anatolia.

Like I said, the Semites hadn't even left Africa when Gobekli Tepe was constructed.

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If the Yamnaya were all dark featured, why did they have a word for Blonde?
https://youtu.be/C4JPMYHTZis?t=512

I'm not disputing that they were all or at least predominantly dark featured btw, even Rowsell has said in other videos that they were and the genetic evidence doesn't lie, but does this mean they had experience with native Europeans or were in contact (perhaps raiding for many centuries) for a while before the actual invasion of the continent that actually led to the big genetic replacement we see took place around the late neolithic?
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>>7684274
But they were the East Asian hunter gatherers. P1 is Beijing.
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>>7684272
Completely wrong, I'm afraid. You tread too lightly down the path of intentional ignorance. I'm afraid I must retire for the night as I have some manners to attend to quite early in the morning, but I do hope you will at least think twice about all of this. In just a few weeks time I will be able to prove that my theory about the ur-nobility compared to the merchant nobility is legitimate :-)
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>>7684300
You know the Finno-Ugrics like Mordovians that served as primary stock for assimilation into the Russian ethnicity do not have high N1c anyway.
Most of Russian N1c does however come from Balts who did indeed not resist. I suppose that may be due to some innate element of the Baltic nature.
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>>7682403
Even by these genetic tests one Yamnaya from Caucasus RK1003 has Blonde hair, even though I believe these genetic tests don't show any shit as they have discovered over 100 more genes related to light hair, currently they had ~20-30, yet the hair color is decided by lower amount on this tests, somewhere 4. Yet I can't be sure that these are not just completely random loci because the only way to prove that would be to show that a gene really does influence phenotype, in where they have two identical individuals where one has one loci and another one has another.
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>>7684338
>Most of Russian N1c does however come from Balts who did indeed not resist. I suppose that may be due to some innate element of the Baltic nature.
Well I guess it is just that Balts are a very small population, who have just got BTFO-d by numbers since the history I know. Besides I am not sure, well the Ugric ancestry got into Baltics by Iron Age and Pskov Russians, as far as I know are Balts. Otherwise Baltic and Slavic populations probably mixed during Iron Age, and for most of the part to me it seems like Russians are Slavs with Baltic admixture.

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Are Marxists right to claim their socialism is the only real socialism?
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>>7684571
That means Jews killed directly and indirectly more than 100 million goyim in the 20th century through Marxism.
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>>7684591
They say so! They are using one word and they are dividing German into the three different categories – cultural, social, and economic.
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>>7684595
Marxists have no cultural heritage with which to cite the prevalence of anti-Semitism. But that doesn't diminish their impact.

And the fact that Jews were targeted by Communism has contributed to our dysfunctional democracy and lack of real progress.

Religion, being the one subject without a universally acceptable theological definition, remains the fountainhead of anti-Semitism.

Israel is proof of this.
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>>7684594
>a society of wage-cucks
lmaos in Neetish
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>>7684604
Jewishness is racial, not religious though.

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I think the holocaust did happen, but its scale was vastly exaggerated by yellow journalism and the Nuremberg trials.
What do you think, Anons?
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>>7684545
11 million is unironically bullshit number made by American Jews. The point is to inflate Holocaust by non-Jews to the Holocaust, but not enough so that they would outnumber the Jews. However when it comes to actual number of victims of Nazi chimpout then it's much more, because Slavs were the majority of victims.
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>>7684606
Are you insane? 1 billion jews were slaughtered in the shoah, oy vey cool it with the independent thinking goy.
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>>7684583
>yes, only illegal in a place where children are forced to attend by law during their formative years.
It's illegal to deny or call for genocides in schools? PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW THAT!!!11 WhaT eLSE IS TeH gOVRMENT HIDING?
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>>7684628
its illegal to claim its exaggerated even slighlty

not to mention off topic "collective jewish power over media, academia, and finance" thats also illegal to criticize.

You cant nothingburger your way out of this jude shit. It happened, acknowledge it you twerp.
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>>7684147
I'm curious as to why you think the methodology of the Anglo-American committee of inquiry is flawed. https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/angap03.asp

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Are there any particular reasons why we use BCE and CE? What exactly is the "common era?"
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>BCE Before Christian Era
>CE Christian Era
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>>7684471
I don’t care why its being used, it doesn’t make BC/AD any more accurate for its purpose.
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>>7684517
BCE/CE is literally the same date system, so it's not any more accurate for any particular purpose.
So unless BCE/CE is going to shift the days themselves to line January 1st up with Jesus's birth, then it's just bootyblasted academics mad about Christianity.
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>>7684540
This, while the year itself may not be accurate, the dating system is still at least based AROUND the date of His death, what separates the BCE/CE marks into a coherent split? "Absolutely nothing, it's still the same thing as BC/AD, but secular" is the answer.
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>>7684260
Ab Urbe Condita was primarily used by Renaissance classical larpers. Actual Romans usually just dated their years by consuls and later emperors.

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>just discovered that the bushido code is an orientalized version of the chivalry code made by some japanese nationalist in the 1800s

Why the media lied to me like that anons?
I don't know what's real anymore.
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>>7681185
Bushido has nothing to do with chivalry. ch*Valry places the onus of honour on the superior towards his inferiors (muh mercy, muh fair fight), BVSHIDO places the onus of honour on the lowly inferior towards his superior (if your lord tells you to stab yourself in the stomach or let him test his sword on your body, you do it, no questions asked).
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>>7683090
Better a kike than a catholicuck, unironically.
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>>7683090
I'm Dutch, can confirm. Some of us send a payment request for a 50 cent cup of coffee
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>>7681185
It was those things, but it also existed during the Edo era. Now THAT was pure BS made up at the time to stop Samurai from raping and pillaging and to create and image for them to aspire to. If they actually were chivalrous and honourable, they wouldn't need a new pamphlet every week to tell them a new way to stop killing the peasents.
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>>7683090
>Dutch
Ocean jews
>Swiss
Mountain jews
>Venetians
Sea jews

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>1500
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>2027
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>1492
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>1911
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>>7680236

>1521
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>117 - 138 A.D.

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Where did Okinawans come from? What ethnicity are they originally?
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>>7683016
Stop putting your idea of beauty/attraction as a standard that everyone else follows.
There could have been many reasons for this outside of just preference.
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>>7681954
>no posts with source
They're quite close to Yamato Japanese, but with a higher Jomon admixture, with estimatives ranging from 30% to 50%. They were isolated from East Asian civilisation for a long time until coming into contact with China and Japan and copying their societies. Then some Chinese and Japanese migrated there. It's also likely SEAsians have a little genetic imprint there, because the Ryukyu Kingdom extensively traded in Siam, Malacca, Borneo and other Southeast Asian states (also due to their proximity to Taiwan)
https://academic.oup.com/biomedgerontology/article/69/12/1474/592652#57397626
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4696161/
https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article/31/11/2929/2925651
>>7682021
>Nivkh with no Jomon admixture
That's how I know this model is wrong. It's known that the Ainu in Sakhalin commonly intermarried with them. Also
https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/ase/advpub/0/advpub_190415/_pdf/-char/en
>Intriguingly, we found that F23 shared more haplotypes with Aboriginal Australians than with most East Asians. IBD sharing analysis (Supplementary Table 26) and f4-statistics (Supplementary Table 13) also showed the same patterns, although the signal was weak and not significant (f4 (Mbuti, Australian; Han, F23) = 0.000115, Z = 1.092). Further studies with more northeast and southwest Jomon genomes are needed to verify this affinity
>When worldwide populations were compared with F23 using PCA, Funadomari Jomons were closer to East Eurasians than to Africans, Europeans, Sahulians, and Native Americans (Figure 8a), consistent with the previously reported Sanganji Jomon genome (Kanzawa-Kiriyama et al., 2017). Next, comparison with East Asians showed that Funadomari Jomons were distinct from other modern East Eurasians. Modern Japanese individuals were situated between Jomons (Funadomari, Sanganji, and Ikawazu) and continental Northeast Eurasians (CHB, Naxi, and Yi; Figure 8b). The four Jomon individuals clustered tightly
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>>7684632
It's not a model of the Nivkh but a model of a late Jomon from southern Japan
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>>7684632
cont.
So the Jomon basically are related to their descendants. I think that, if we were to consider your point of view as true, negritoes and the such have Jomon admixture instead of the contrary
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>>7684642
That's utter nonsense. Jarawa have been isolated in the Andaman islands for 40k years.

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I've read on multiple sources that Romans and Greeks associated blonde hair color with prostitutes, slaves, barbarians and Germanic tribes in general.

However, how could they associate blonde hair with that, when many Greek gods and heroes were depicted as blonde and several Roman elites, including Emperors were blonde as well?

Were they looked down upon as well?
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>>7684573
Here's the sauce:
https://www.theapricity.com/earlson/history/emperors.htm

>Of the 18 Emperors from Augustus to Commodus: 9 had blond or red hair; 5 had grey or white hair; 3 had no recorded hair colour, and just 1 (Hadrian), was referred to as dark-haired.

>Of the 18 Emperors from Augustus to Commodus: 9 had blue or grey eyes; 2 had "wine-coloured eyes" (whatever that may mean), and 7 had no recorded eye colour.

This is what baffles me
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>>7684566
>sub-blond/sub-yellow

So wait, Romans didn't have a word for the color "brown"?
They called it sub-yellow?
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>>7684607
Romans used to dye their hair, wear wigs, use cosmetics

They cared about appearance. They distinctively describe those traits that are common to Barbarians
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>>7684587
>He had clear, bright eyes, in which he liked to have it thought that there was a kind of divine power, and it greatly pleased him, whenever he looked keenly at anyone, if he let his face fall as if before the radiance of the sun
Bright = blue? Maybe not? I don't know, I don't know Latin. But compare this description to this shitty reconstruction and its drooping eyes.
>>7684524
Compare it to this head with its striking gaze.

>his hair was slightly curly and inclining to golden
Which apparently mean they were straight and looked like hair of some Slav or German.

>his nose projected a little at the top and then bent slightly inward
Which is visible in most of his statues, but not here.

>His complexion was between dark and fair.
Which according to the artist it means he was pasty as an Irishman.
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>>7684614
>theapricity
OH NO NO NO

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Please tell me that someone has the /his/ edit

Assuming humanity survives, in 3000 years when they dig up the remains of Las Vegass will they think the Egyptians ruled this tiny area of nevada?
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>>7684100
>and wait to slowly die up as the plants degrade.
how many nuclear missiles in silos are there? something like one hundred thousand scattered across america? when people are no longer skilled enough to maintain these.. that's 100,000 fukashimas and chernobls.

just a heads up.
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>>7683450
thats not how you use the word aesthetic you nog
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>>7684114
>how many nuclear missiles in silos are there? something like one hundred thousand scattered across america?
more like 450
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>>7684588
clustered mostly in the dakotas
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>Thread involving the United States to any degree
>Seething /int/niggers make sure everyone knows they exist
Pick two

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Which party would you vote for in the 1930 elections in Germany and why?

For me, it's SPD
fuck extremist retards
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>>7684283
>cut off from motherland
>poor as shit
>90% empty, cold farmland
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>>7684486
>>expelled anti-war members
Bad idea, still a legitimate act for a democratic party.
>>call on fascists to put down the revolt
Commies are particular to who's shooting them? If only SPD had known. (Also, the affair was before fascism was even a concept and the freikorps had so little political ideology they tolerated an SPD government no problem... some fascists)
>>get Rosa killed, even though she did literally nothing
Except call for, you know, ignoring the democratic process in favour of a violent communist grab for power. Should have thought about whether a people that didn't vote for her would just let that happen.
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>>7684311
>when SPD claims they are leftists but backstab the actual leftists
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>>7681845
>becoming the torch of liberty and equality between brethren and comrades the world so desperately needed
So basically still fighting a pointless war for a crazy tyrant but instead of Hitler they fight for Stalin ?
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>>7678036
>>7678024
>SPD

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_fascism

So basically, you are admitting that you were voting for the fascist party in Germany? Which every leftists would call you because their masters were distrubing the information from the higher ups of the USSR, the Comintern and the left wing of Germany that the SPD were fascist because they were actively targeting the communist the most.

There is no situation in the world where le radical centrists aren't the biggest fucking retards in the world. That is why I read stories were radical centrists get tortured after their ineffectual resistance to be the greatest thing in the world!

So, excluding the Great Pyramids, which of the ancient wonders were real and which were fake?
Or were they all real to a certain extent..
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>>7684502
At the very least there's probably some good truth behind them. The only one that seems super far fetched to me is the Colossus of Rhodes though
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>>7684616
I think the hanging gardens sound a bit far fetched..


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