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We encourage you to have a look around the catalog first to see what we’re all about before posting your first thread. Topics typically posted here include:
>Outdoor recreational activities (Hiking, trail running, bushwhacking, camping, spelunking, geocaching, orienteering, expeditions, urban exploration, backpacking, etc.)
>Gardening, farming and related activities
>Hunting and fishing, and other activities involving the stalking or taking of game (including bird-watching)
>Outdoor survival, bushcraft, foraging, self-sustenance in nature, train-hopping, hoboism, etc.
>Outdoor destinations and exploration (specific trails, parks, regions, etc.)
>Water-related activities (boats, diving, etc.)
>Outdoor philosophy (conservation, Leave No Trace, protectionism, etc.)
>Outdoor building and living (cabins, huts, treehouses, etc.)
>Outdoor social activities and organizations (meet-ups, Scouts, NOLS, etc.)
>Gear related to any of the above topics

Most topics related to the outdoors are fine. Write properly, behave politely, encourage a respectful community, and most importantly, GO OUTSIDE!!
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Just a friendly reminder that threads about weapons which do not pertain to their use in outdoor activities should be posted on /k/ instead. Thanks.

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I love hiking in the mid-atlantic!

What are your favorite trails around here?

If you live in Pitt or D.C. you know WV has the highest mountains you can easily drive to.
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>>1623454
every try telling your family to fuck off sometimes because you only get one life to live?
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>only get one life to live
I'm browsing a Chinese cartoon forum on a Saturday evening, I'm not exactly living
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>>1623476
ok but like if you don't see the amazing sights of WV this life there isn't a next one to enjoy it in

inb4 muh christcuckery magic
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Big debate over bear spray vs. guns.

I say why not both? But carrying both isn't SUL, so which choice is best? I think a gun has better multiple uses; consider the following: signaling, spray can't do that. And as a visual threat for two leggers, it reigns over spray. For cauterizing, the powder would be superior to spray. And spray can't aid in fire starting.
>therefore gun > spray
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>>1626404
Basketpack research led to this: https://www.amazon.com/Peregrine-Venture-Hunting-Backpack-Country/dp/B07CMRH52K/ref=rtpb_3/142-8206834-7841162?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07CMRH52K&pd_rd_r=ed7336fc-31bb-49ad-b55d-27f6fb439f22&pd_rd_w=Te2yQ&pd_rd_wg=xpL9D&pf_rd_p=2782d4e7-729b-42ef-89c2-ba31da707602&pf_rd_r=EWHYRY9FHT13GFR8G7FT&psc=1&refRID=EWHYRY9FHT13GFR8G7FT&th=1
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>>1626430
That's pretty stupid, I can fit a laundry hamper or two buckets in my US Marin Crops pack. Holds a lot of traps/tools, as many muskrat as you can catch, a coyote, or a couple of full-grown beavers
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>>1625687
Spray them with slugs.
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>>1626433
Does it have a swivel seat?
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>>1626463
>can carry a bucket
>does it have a seat??
Christ...

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What gloves do you use for cold /out/ings?
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Mechanics gloves for fine motor skill tasks and unironically pic related for just hiking around in the snow. They're cheap camo wool/thinsulate things from Walmart. In winter I wear both at once and just take the wool ones off to do stuff.

T. Leaf so you can trust I know the cold.
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>>1626464
>T. Leaf so you can trust I know the cold.
You're just Bong transplants, I will wait for Scandis and Russians to show up. But thanks anyway.
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>>1626467
>T
phone posting
>>1626470
>quoting the wrong guy
you guys are bad.
>Scandis
Check out Hestra gloves.

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Is motorcycle camping any fun? Been looking at a tenerae for a fuel efficient way to reach far away places to hike/camp
>inb4 fuck off to /o/, they cant stop fapping to sportbikes
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>>1626238
>my girlfriends kid
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>>1625651
B&
>/v/is that way
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>>1626191
>>1626283
>replying to b8
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>>1618402
None of them are really any good yet. Gonna have to wait a few years
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based

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Is the gorka the ultimate /out/fit? Also post any other good milsurp for /out/
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>>1625210
any recommended spray for waterproofing?
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>>1623102
>>1623111
>>1623191

is milsurp even cheap anymore? its basically just as overpriced as most clothes nowadays
why did clothes get so expensive?
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>>1625510
Flex seal clear, unironically. No smell, and held up fine for me. Just keep the coating light, for sure.
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>>1625210
>>1625510
Honestly buying the cheaper knockoff gorkas isn't really worth it if you're going to have to respray it over and over imo

>>1625652
Maybe it has gotten more expensive compared to the past but it's still definitely cheaper than any modern outdoor clothes or gear or anything. It also depends on the country of origin.
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>>1623102
gorka is great but it is overrated and overpriced, just wear normal cheap /out clothes and you'll be fine.
Clothes can only take you so far

Is the outback the /out/ car? Great fuel economy, lots of space, AWD standard? What is not to love?
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>>1626017
By ‘so far have settled on’ I mean I haven’t bought one yet. But thinking of going for one around 2010 for the economy/emissions. I’ve heard people upwards of 6’ sleep fine in the back of an Outback, what’s the problem?
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>>1626322
The problem is you're misinformed. Outbacks are short, the only way you're sleeping in one is with the driver's seat reclined, because it's 41" from the back of the driver's seat (with it as far forward as it goes) to the liftgate.
Source: http://www.cars101.com/subaru/outback/outback2018.html
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>>1626406
whoops I used the wrong dimension. 65" (5'5") to back of driver's seat with driver's seat fully forward.
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>>1616239
>troopcarriers windshield banner
cringe
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imagine not riding a motorcycle lol

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/k/ paste bin:
https://hackmd.io/@Patchboi/PatchThread

For patches and outdoor packs
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>>1622937
Why 26%, that's such a weird number?
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>>1623853
it was his gf 26th birthday or something, adn i guess it's pretty close to 25% so it doesn't really matter
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Pic from last outing
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I need Gondola patch, dammit
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>>1626452
Nice patch anon

>>1626458
I thneed a lorax man

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Hey /out/ - apologies for the long post, but I’d love your advice.

Due to a disability in my ankles, I’ve pretty much been unable to do most outdoor activities since elementary school and general walking / standing became nearly impossible.

This all changed about 6 months ago when I got fitted for these super-rugged assistive devices (think exoskeleton legs) that have been life changing. I spent this summer trying to condition myself - I was pretty out of shape from not being able to do much before. Still not ‘in-shape,’ but excited to be doing as much new shit as possible.

Started going on little hikes, went paddle boarding, kayaking, and walked on the beach. Finally went *real* camping (I’ve been doing campgrounds for years, since I didn’t need to be on my feet) and the height of my personal achievements so far has been a 7 mile (largely uphill) hike on pretty jagged rocks on part of the Appalachian Trail (Jefferson State Forest / Grayson Highlands).

Now, I’m coming to the realization that I don’t have a) any really cool goals or b) any outdoor hobbies or collections. I’m naturally a bit of collector and I love building up to achievements (“hiking all of X trails in Y,” “visiting all 27 X in my region,” etc.).

So what the fuck should I do? Literally no suggestion is a bad one at this point: I’m super hyped about trying things I’ve never done and/or haven’t been able to do in over a decade. Would love to hear what I’ve been missing out on both in terms of active outdoor stuff and just hobbies/collections that can get me out into the the fresh air a little.

Constraints: I can’t quite run or jog yet, but I’m working on it. Would prefer that the active stuff be possible to enjoy with my wife (but general hobbies can be solo), and I am pretty busy in terms of schedule, so I can’t take off 3 weeks to go explore a rainforest or anything like that - at least not regularly.

Pic related: me on our hike at Grayson Highlands.
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So is there a definitive /out/ guide to gear?
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>>1621043
good on you, OP
the next step you should try is 1-2 nights out
get some kind of tent/tarp, a sleeping bag and food that can be eaten cold (you'll move on to carrying cooking gear and cooking out after)
the ideal is to go to work on friday with your gear, drive out and camp friday night, then you get to experience a full day out on saturday. Wake up in the woods, walk all day, and st up camp for the Saturday night.
If you're still feeling out things as to how much your legs can handle, yyou can camp near your car, that way you can leave all cooking and sleping gear in it on Saturday, and go on a day hike with a lightr load
Do this once, and I'll garantee you'll be hooked
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I like this thread
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>>1616539
Taking photos of cool shit is an excellent idea, hey I might even start doing that myself (not OP).

Get a GPS and log all your trails, and store waypoints for cool shit you find. After a while you can load it all up in digital mapping software, and see all the trails you've "collected", and all the locations of the cool stuff you've found. Plus you'll also see where you *havent* been.

If you get something like a Garmin InReach, you also have a satellite emergency beacon in case your exoskeleton or legs fail.
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Bumping this wholesome thread

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This has to be the ONE GUN for /out/: the Ruger GSR, Gunsight Sc/out/ Rifle. .308 Winchester, light weight, hits hard, fast handling. What's not to like?

What would be your ONE GUN for /out/?
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>>1626260
i dont get it. is this a british or old person thing?
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>>1626264
Blue pill thing.
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>>1626266
Blue pill is an erection set
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>>1626267
lol viagra joke, classic...
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>>1626259
An erector set is your mum and her sister.... constantly creating erections

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>be me
>bored af, planning on not leaving the house all weekend
>start going down a youtube rabbit hole of mountain biking videos despite never having interest in actually going
>think "oh maybe i'll try that one day but it looks expensive"
>watch a video where a guy was hyping himself up to do a jump he was scared of and started saying some motivational bs about how life is short and we gotta take the jump
>realise that I might not be able to try mountain biking in the future
>say fuck it and grab my mom's old bike she stores in my garage
>turns out theres a diy spot right near my house
>all of the jumps are big n scary
>decide to try and make my own
>end up making a shitty A-Frame out of rocks and driftwood nearby
>have some of the most fun i've had in a long time

is this what it's like to have fulfilling hobbies? anyone else discover a hobby in a weird way like this?
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>>1625578
>steel
ya dun gud. i'm hella jelly of your guys selection of steel hardtails over in £land. fortunately after much searching i found a winner over here. i love my jamis dragonslayer, pic related with my friend's krampus. unfortunately i sprained my knee backpacking and haven't been on it in 2 months.

also, lol@manitou's backwards forks
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>>1625594
where you guys from? that photo looks a lot like north wales.
and yeah we have a good selection for everything over here, i live in the same town as Orange bikes and we are pretty much just above Sheffield, so lots of modern steel frames knocking about.
i just went for the ns surge evo, first steel frame and im so glad i chose it over a carbon or alloy.

and yeah the forks get a lot of strange looks, could be because they are 160mm on a hardtail.
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>>1626331
california. if my damn knee will ever get better we're going to do some bikepacking around big sur this winter.

i've only been biking for a year, so i fell in love with steel frames because i'm a pretentious hipster jackoff who just wants to be different, but my friend who's been riding for 20+ years tried my bike for less than half a mile and liked the feel so much that within a month he'd bought himself the krampus.
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>>1626434
i hope your knee gets better soon man.
bikepacking is something i've wanted to do for a while, only problem is riding long distance with a 15kg bike limited to a 32t chainring up front and a 11-36 10speed cassette on the rear. i've managed 100km rides on it but i think i'm going to build up a 29er 80-120mm travel cx bike for if i ever want to try it. also my dad is getting older now so i need to plan it soon.

i've been riding for a good 10+ years on the trail now, never had a bad ride.
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>>1626448
>planning bikepacking with your dad
super cool. get on it. i missed that window with my dad-he was super into biking when he was younger, and took me and my brothers on casual rides when we were kids, but he hasn't been on a bike in probably 15 years and is almost 70 now. he's still fairly active (we hike and camp together), but getting him back into riding, especially multiple consecutive days, is not a realistic hope for me.

>11-36 10speed cassette
yeah, i could see that wouldn't be super fun on a loaded bike. i have a 46t granny gear and it's great as a bailout. i have a 32 up front, too, that i might swap out for a 28 before any real long trips (aspirations of the oregon timber trail is what finally got be into biking after years of my friend bugging me to start). between having 2 kids and too many other gear-intensive hobbies i have to make my dragonslayer my all-purpose bike instead of being able to specialize with multiple bikes.

Let’s see what y’all got this season.
Got this guy at 92 yd with my bow. Double lung pass through. First kill ever.
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>>1624603
These are the same assholes who think saying harvest instead of kill and hiding your dead deer by wrapping it up will appease the antis to leave us alone.
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Helped out as a subpermitee on my first bear hunt. Not huge, but not an easy drag.
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>>1625250
cool advice. The Indiana gun+muzzle loader season is nov 16 - dec 22. In my county I could get a buck +plus 3 anterless.

I need to go setup my blind.
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>>1616623
My only friends are on 4chan and I lost my legs in 'Nam. Fuck you
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>>1626450
Pull it in your tank-wheelchair. Spank you for yer cervix

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>Sleeping bag rated for -40F (-40C)
Is there any reason I couldn't survive a Canadian/North American winter with one of these fucks while boondocking in a van? If I'm gonna be homeless I'd rather not be an urban """stealth""" rat who's despised by everyone and treated like human refuse and likely to get robbed by some junkie. Rather just comfily boondock innawoods in some cold ass place in my comfy sleeping bag.
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>>1626428
Liberia and Myanmar haven't landed on the moon
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>>1626432
Not real countries
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>>1626326
He's describing how fukt you get 10 minutes after you have layed the isolation flat. And sleeping bags have a cognitive disability and are habitual liars. You've never been out have you? This is how we talk on the trail
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If you're sleeping in a van then you dont really need a fancy $600 bag that is designed to a weight limit.
Just go to the local second hand store and buy a fuckload of thick blankets and wool blankets and whatnot, then get a nice thick piece of foam to lay on or a mattress.

My current stack is a thick blanket, then four wool blankets, then a summer camp sleeping bag spread across the top. insanely warm at just below freezing temps.
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>>1626439
Exactly

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>>1626376
Salting the earth is symbolic, not a real thing that really works. It washes away too quickly to be a problem and costs too much to consider. Vinegar poured on the roots or boiling water poured on the roots will kill plants very well. Plants that have deep rhizomes or tubers won't be affects as much for long term.
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>>1625716
I'm jealous. I got this huge pumpkin plant but it didn't produce any pumpkins
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>>1626376
Rent a goat.
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anyone have experience with using wine barrels to grow vegetables? i bought a full barrel and cut it in half and filled it with growing medium and daikon radish seeds. Everything sprouted and seemed like it was doing fine but then my plants just stopped growing. are you suppose to like, wash these things out before using them? i have the exact same plants growing in a regular black plastic container next to them and they are doing fine, same soil/water/sunlight. Is the barrel perhaps too cold, should I have painted it black?
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>>1626453
It is more than likely the soil itself and/or drainage.

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I FUCKING HATE POISON IVY!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>1626168
You don't wear gloves?
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>>1626225
Reddit btfo
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>>1626225
The absolute state of frogposters

Even the anime faggots on this board go outdoors, can't you at least put in some effort instead of shitting up the catalog with your LARP threads
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>>1626159
Yeah it sucks. I get it from petting my outdoor cats. If you're that sensitive, just keep a bottle of Tecnu around and use it in the shower if you think you've been exposed. You can wash your clothes with it too. Works great but nothing is perfect. Take some benadryl when you start breaking out, it can help to halt your body's immune/allergic response.
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>>1626438
Dumb idolshitter


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