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We encourage you to have a look around the catalog first to see what we’re all about before posting your first thread. Topics typically posted here include:
>Outdoor recreational activities (Hiking, trail running, bushwhacking, camping, spelunking, geocaching, orienteering, expeditions, urban exploration, backpacking, etc.)
>Gardening, farming and related activities
>Hunting and fishing, and other activities involving the stalking or taking of game (including bird-watching)
>Outdoor survival, bushcraft, foraging, self-sustenance in nature, train-hopping, hoboism, etc.
>Outdoor destinations and exploration (specific trails, parks, regions, etc.)
>Water-related activities (boats, diving, etc.)
>Outdoor philosophy (conservation, Leave No Trace, protectionism, etc.)
>Outdoor building and living (cabins, huts, treehouses, etc.)
>Outdoor social activities and organizations (meet-ups, Scouts, NOLS, etc.)
>Gear related to any of the above topics

Most topics related to the outdoors are fine. Write properly, behave politely, encourage a respectful community, and most importantly, GO OUTSIDE!!
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Just a friendly reminder that threads about weapons which do not pertain to their use in outdoor activities should be posted on /k/ instead. Thanks.

This is from the /fit/ board, and I figured /out/ would be another board filled with people wanting to improve their lives.

/sig/ is the Self Improvement General for discussions about self improvement both physically and mentally. Share your stories, ask questions, and help motivate each other to be the best you can be.

The sticky on /fit/ provides numerous resources for beginning your journey to /fit/ness >>>/fit/17018018 # Please keep all advice evidence based.


Here's some basic behavioral therapy. Every Behavior has 1 or more of the 4 basic Functions (or fundamental reason). The 4 functions are: Sensory Stimulation, Escape/Avoidance of aversive stimuli, Access to people places thing, and Attention from others.
To extinguish an undesired behavior, you must replace it with another behavior that is Practical, Desirable, and satisfies the same Function of the undesired behavior.

People can have different functions for the same behavior, and your replacement behavior is going to depend on what Functions your behavior satisfies.

here are some resources for self improvement in various ways, compiled from different resources over the last 4 years.

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No interest in trying to get anything sexual out of the date btw
Nah that's not a bad attitude. Worst case scenario you go on a date with someone and have a lame evening that costs more than fapping at home. Best case things might go better than expected and you could have more in common with her than you thought.

Most likely you enjoy a nice date and decide whether or not you want to keep it going from there.
Are you tired after lucid dreaming or rested?
What kind of work do you enjoy? Why can't you work while in school if you're not getting approved for a stipend?

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Old thread: >>1670055

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Why does snowy weather make me want to order tropical fruit trees
Could be the allure of having things where they don’t belong
Every winter I dream of having a greenhouse to grow watermelon beginning in the fall and have fresh melon before the spring even hits
>Every winter I dream of having a greenhouse to grow watermelon beginning in the fall and have fresh melon before the spring even hits
Don't let your dreams be memes.
Moved into this place just over a year ago and have allowed the clover on the lawn to spread a lot. Now the lawn is a seething mass of BEES and it's not wise to go out there barefoot or even in shorts.

Not sure if this was the right choice. I guess if I ever want/need to revert to lawn I could always broadleaf weed spray it and re-seed, or just lay fresh lawn straight over the top.
You may need some nutrients you normally get from them at other times? lol

Do it!

I have a hive of honeybees and a yard full of flowering plants. I've been stung like 1 time due to stepping on a honeybee in the past 15 years, despite walking barefoot 90% of the time in the warm months. I've yet to be stung by a bumblebee or wasp on a flower because I stepped on it. So long as you watch where you step, there shouldn't bee a problem.

How do you guys store sammies in your pack so they don’t get crushed. The ziploc container on the left works good but is a little big. The ziploc bag on the right obviously offers no protection at all and you’ll end up with a sandwich pancake by lunch time.
>inb4 qtddtot
Don’t worry I looked, I bumped some gayass off topic thread about moving to Portland that hasn’t been replied to In 5 days
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Bear can works if u have to carry one anyways or hang on the outside of ur pack
I think I have enough shit on the outside of my pack now. But that’s not a terrible idea for lighter loads if I could find a small box with a hole for a caribeaner
Yea thought you were a backpacker i carry all my soft foods outside when i can
They make actual sandwich sized containers.
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You forgot your giant mallet.

What’s the best city in the states for urban farming?
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This is the only place where it is remotely viable because you can obtain multiple acres in urban areas quite cheap. Anywhere else would be tens of millions of dollars or would be vertical farming meme.
The areas where you can get cheap big acreage tend to be dangerous and unfriendly outsiders. You better be rolling up with a group and show the flag, so to speak (rifle-armed people patrolling the compound).
They'll leave you alone if you let the hood frequent it as a petting zoo.
a few of the western suburbs of Denver (Lakewood, Golden, Wheatridge) are still zoned for agriculture. I can buy eggs and goat-cheese from my neighbors.
especially if you grow drugs among the crops too

Is there any hope for truly enjoying America's national parks when they are so crowded?
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t. Ignorant Eurocuck
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>in glorious evorpa, everyone hates the outdoors! that's why we're better
lmao you can't even carry guns hiking
I lived in Grand Teton for several summers and I knew where and when to go to avoid crowds and get amazing experiences. It isn't hard to stay away from normie central if you look at a map.
Mist Falls trail in Kings Canyon NP
Muir Rock, Kings Canyon NP
Don't be a poor fag. Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, you can get 100s if not 1000+ acres of land for under/around 1M sometimes already with improvements. Live the dream. I have 60 acres in NorCal but want to move somewhere my money will stretch further. Live the dream

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Climbing General #9

A place to talk about climbing in any aspect (trad, sport, bouldering, aid, alpine, etc).

Rock Climbing is a dangerous sport that can cause loss of life, limb, eyesight, or sanity.

Useful Info:
Off-belay thread: >>1636281

I'm not off-route, I'm doing a first ascent.
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Brush it, clean it off pretty thoroughly if you think it's good enough that people will want to repeat it. Grade its difficulty what you feel it is, but more importantly grade its enjoyment accurately. Don't give a V0 lowball five stars.
A useful 5-star enjoyment scale might give stars like this, for example:
- an obvious start
- a pure line (i.e. no contrivances like eliminating holds to up the difficulty)
- a solid top-out
- a good landing area
- pleasant holds (i.e. no sharp crystal right where you gotta stick that big lunge or whatever)
Don't really have the funds or means for doing regular 3+ hour trips to go to Belgium or Germany. Also not a student so not sure if i would be allowed to join LSAC?
Also wasn't expecting anyone to recognize the gym by layout alone, now I have to worry about who might know it's me.
Where are you trying to solicit?
Are you a fellow dutchie ?
Not too many 'flat countries' in Europe.
Pretty sure you can't join the LSAC without being a student, but you totally can just find friends who want to climb with you. If you don't have any, ask around in Kunststof (staff or climbers) - usually they're happy to help.

Sport climbing may be difficult to get into from scratch if you're short on funds, but bouldering in Germany is totally economical: just have a couple of people chip in for two/three boulder mats á 150 euros each. Divide that equally and you literally have all the material you need for a boulder trip for 100 euros per person (assuming you already have shoes and chalk). Then just drive to Germany for a weekend.

> Also wasn't expecting anyone to recognize the gym by layout alone, now I have to worry about who might know it's me.

I just saw the name of the boulder hall (it's at the top of the app) and googled it - don't worry, you didn't dox yourself.
What would be the best way to go about making a weekend trip to Germany or Belgium? I have family in Spain and whenever I'm there me and my brother use a shitbox van to go to boulders and the use some old mattresses as crash pads. But here in the Netherlands I have zero equipment and no transport. Buying a crash pad I could do but renting a car and buying camping equipment might be too expensive. So like what would be the best way to travel, spend the night, etc.
Thank you for being so helpful by the way.
>I just saw the name of the boulder hall (it's at the top of the app) and googled it
Didn't realize the name was visible in my first screenshot

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There's lots of you here from PA, WV, MD, DC, VA, and DE.

Most other threads seem mostly geared towards west coast anons.

Which regional trails have you enjoyed?
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It’s 30miles you pussy, excellent campsites along the entire way. One on an incredible outlook above the entire valley. You’re robbing yourself of one of the best woodlands in PA just go walk it you faggot.
i can only do day hikes

i cannot walk that many miles in a day
>stuck in williamsport without any wheels

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How does one protect themselves from a pack of feral wilds while out solo hiking WITHOUT a gun or pepper spray...? Both guns and pepper spray is illegal in this fucked up country. Attacks are becoming more frequent and last year during my huge 200k+ trek I was stalked for 4 days by at least 11 dogs. I've been scared to solo hike ever since.
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How do I deal with hostile domestic dogs? Was hiking down a rural road and a small but ferocious dog tried to bite me. He lost interest after I got far enough away from his turf. I would've been in much worse shape if it was a pitbull. Would carrying some big fat bones or something help? I don't want to do anything that'd really hurt it, since I'd probably be staring down the barrel of his owner's 870 if I did around here.
Heres a revolutionary idea....

A literal




Pepper spray for the dog, gun for the owner.
You can get a firearms license in Australia, where is the problem? Do you need one for bows?

Is there any country on Earth where you can't get a shotgun license?

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Australia is objectively the best country in the world to go true /out/.

>country basically the same size as USA
>1/12 of the population of America (australia only has 26 million)
>516 national parks compared to America's 62
>national parks are free to enter
>most areas of national parks are designated wilderness with few trails
>tourists are only common in the few national parks that are near cities, even then still uncrowded 90% of the time (compared to the millions of people which flock to USA's national parks every year, making camping and hiking miserable and solitude impossible to find
>varied geography, including coastal forests, swamps, mountains, deserts, plains, tropical rainforests and various marine environments
>no large land predators eg bears, only small predators that are usually more scared of you than you of them
>over 99% of visitors to australian national parks are white
>incredible biodiversity of plants, birds and other wildlife
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The grey parts are mostly rock and desert. Way too hot and arid to survive without massive investment in infrastructure, which just isn't viable with a small population
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I think I'm going to do this. The park's closed at the moment but a lot of other parks and forests are open, not to mention fire season will be winding down over the next month or so anyway. Thanks for the tips, I'm going to look into those. I just have to find out and make sure I know where I'm going and where I'm allowed to park/camp, simple enough.

Thanks friend, I'm doing that right now actually. Very useful all.

I also just bought an air bed that's tailored for the back of my ute, so I can just sleep in there easy enough if there's not good place for my hammock.
oh hey we have that
unless youre trying to extract resources, hence china
well yes mining valuable resources does pay for itself in the short term. in the long term it's all shit china is going to use against us

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What's the point of going /out/ if you don't hunt?
Hunting is the pinnacle of all /out/ skills, and all skills are only valuable insofar as they improve your hunting.
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Hunting is for posers who pretend the outdoors but really just like sports. You know, morons.
>except the hooves, brain, guts and tongue
Use the brain to tan the hide and eat the tongue my man. You're missing out on tanning the hide the free and natural way and tongue is good eating. Also some of the organs from the gut pile are edible but I'm not too picky about that, heart is fucking delicious though.


People who hunt for pest control are doing so to ensure their crops aren't destroyed or disease isn't spread so that that can sell you food, dummy.
One beaver or groundhog spreads giardia into your farm's water supply and you have serious problems. I'm assuming you're a euro anon and dont understand how the north american model of conservation works so to simplify it down all people own all of the animals in perpetuity and hunting licenses (amongst other things) pay for the study and protection of wildlife and habitat. As opposed to Europe where the land owner generally owns the wildlife on his property and hunting becomes a rich fag elitism contest and fucks over nature. I bring this all up because in N. America we give farmers and land owners extra deer tags, discounts on hunting licenses and an overall way more relaxed take on all of this because pest control is very serious and neccessary. Educate yourself before judging and forming harsh opinions.

You're so angry stupid and misinformed, who hurt you? I also wonder when I see posts like this if you're the same.type of person that still eats meat and says this shit? Are you that particular kind of retarded hypocrite?
I hunt and fish a ton and dont play or watch any sports. If fact they're very very different. Why are you so judgmental and angry though?
I'm /out/doors, contributing money to conservation, collecting my own local free range organic antibiotic-free steroid-free meat, participating in the same activities as you, and building a connection and appreciation for wildlife. I can guarantee I know more and care more about the longterm well being and overall health of all these species and ecosystems than you because my life is tied to them and I want others to have the same experience. You're hung up on the individual animal and your percieved projected feelings of who I am.

what is the most underrated kind of biome and why is it swamps/bayous
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You're lucky you didn't die anon. I got struck by lightning when I was 16 and it was shit. Last year I was caught out in a horrible lightning storm as I was walking home from work, was on an elevated causeway over the railroad tracks and bolts were literally striking the ground under me. I though I was a goner.

I was caught in a blizzard out on one of the "five sisters" (breakers) in Boston harbor. you can walk out to them when the tide is low, but when it comes in you'll be stuck all night. Well, just as the tide was coming in there was a nasty sudden swell and the wind started howling and it went into a complete whiteout. We had to try and time our 400ft run back to the beach between waves. Water was mostly up to our knees when we ran but got pretty wet overall. And it was fucking frigid.

Heh, water. Good times.
because of disease
if not for bugs and disease, even with the alligators and snakes (if non-venemous) swamps would be 1000% better
That's amazing, such a great place. I would love the chance to record an entire day there and get the whole cycle of wildlife.
but anon the risk of disease is what makes it fun

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Where are good trails outside Salt Lake City during the winter? I'll have enough time for a full day hike, but nothing overnight. I was thinking about Bryce canyon, but that seems like a far drive.
Pic comes from a park near Napa Valley, looking north towards the wineries, if you are curious
Ruby Mountains, often called the Alps of Nevada, and the lush, glacier-carved Lamoille Canyon.
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Deer valley has the best trails close to salt lake City.

What do you wear when you go skiing/snowboarding? What's your equipment?
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Get burton gore-tex mittens.
I am a skier and I know burton is for knuckle dragging faggots but I still wear burton gore tex mittens cause they are so fucking BASED.
Choosing subdued or drab colors implies that individual does the same with every aspect of their life.
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Pic related. Me when I'm about ready to hit the slopes.
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>tfw all white gear so i can be virtually invisible
Based stealth skier that wants to traumatize as many people as possible when they finally find his rotting corpse hidden in the ravine.

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/shred/ - Ski & Snowboard General

Last thread: >>1661866

>ski or snowboard?
>skill level
>what the fuck are you doing now?
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Check the catalog asshole. We don't need all this gay shit in the OP.
Not everyone gives up on shit if it gets difficult.
I don't know how the snow is where you go, but tell them once they get the hang of it, they'll crave powder almost as much as pussy.
Thanks anon!
I would buy used gear for cheap (but not cheap gear where it matters) from Craigslist/eBay in the off season.
Pair of boots that might be a couple seasons old but we're only worn q couple times and someone just wanted out of their closet for $10 type of stuff.
Beanies from China off eBay for $1 a piece and gloves for $3-$4 (free shipping!!).
When you have extra gear and people don't have to worry about rentals they are much more prone to give it a try.

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