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/wip/ - Works In Progress - Impostor Collage Anon EditionHey degenerates OP here, I made this here collage to honor the OG. All hail collage-kun, he's the best of us.Anyway post your work-in-progress projects, recently finished projects, or things you'd like critiqued here.Previous thread: >>972982List of free resources: https://pastebin.com/cZLVnNtB (embed)/3/ Discord: https://discord.gg/gbYCEBPuK2
>>978126fun ideas, the goal is to make a "kit" for 3d printing so I'll need to do probably 10 or so different hair styles
>>977745Some more work on the buildings, they're coming along nicely. I think all up I've got about 15 buildings in the "medium" category, which isn't too bad. That group will comprise most of the "filler" of the city, so I wanna make sure there's quite a few. The small category will probably have a similar amount to encompass the more street height buildings, but the large category will probably only have a handful since they're pretty much going to be "weenies" (special architecture meant to grab attention).I'm starting to figure out how I want to lay out materials as well. Currently, I have a bunch of material slots for different color stuff like accents and neon colors. With the buildings being able to decide whether or not to turn the neon on, and what color to use, and the accents just choosing random colors. I think I'll set up a little atlas instead to have those built into the main building texture instead, so that when the neon isn't chosen for a building it defaults to the regular building material, and the same for the accent color.This also means I can just use UVs to assign dedicated areas for accents and neon, that like I said before, will just be the regular material if the building doesn't use them.I haven't started on the tops/bottoms yet, but I've also laid out my plans for those as well.I think for each building, I'll have 3-4 different top shapes, and in those shapes I'll have different modules to kinda slot into the roof. So for example, you could have a roof module that's like AC units and stuff, another that adds a little park on top of the building, a penthouse, and then maybe a spire or whatever where it comes to a point with a big ass antenna.That ought to add a fuckload of variety.But yeah. Pic related is where I'm at currently.I had a go at using the "Random Per Island" option to give the windows random values/colors, but for some reason it's not working on a few buildings. No clue why it works on some and not others.
>>978143Chiming in to say that I fixed the issue with the "random per island" thing not working for some buildings.To me, "per island" means "UV island", however that's not the case. It's "mesh island" whatever the fuck that is. They're all contiguous meshes. Long story short, the ones that did work had auto-smooth on, while the ones that didn't work, didn't. I guess something about auto-smooth fucking with the normals separates them into mesh islands? I've got no fucking clue. Anyway, it's working now.
>>978116Thanks man, he's supposed to be a generic enemy NPC for my wannabe game, but I kinda like how he turned out and am lowkey thinking of making him an unique with backstory and everything. My main character on the other hand, Monroe, does have a vague backstory that will be revealed as the game progresses. He has no memories of his past, as he was rendered partially amnesiac after he was captured and brutally beaten by a gang of raiders. Though his memories have left him, his instincts have not, awoken within the bowels of the grimy metro station his captors call their home he has only one goal: make his way out.I know the amnesia trope is often found in media, but I think it's a very nice plot device as it gives a character a sense of mystery, plus the audience discovers the character at the same time as himself which I find to be a cool way to involve the viewer
>>978022Made another little thing
>there are currently attempts happening at making LLMs control Blender since direct mesh generation always turns out messy as fuckThis shit is fucking wild
>>977979>>977980>>978157What part do you not understand that chat GPT has no fucken goals and only reacts to prompts? Even animals have goals and will do things on their own. LLMs do not. Stop prompting it and see what will happen. There is no thinking only react to prompt program.>To me you're like someone screaming at a rat A rat can move and will do things on its own like digging a hole and looking for food, it has goals. a LLM literally does not and can not have. It literally was trained to predict what the next word will be. It only reacts to prompts then does nothing. It will not turn magically into terminator. Your entire """"""knowledge""""" comes from fictional TV and singularity fags. >talk to you coherently about difficult subjectsOnce more you literally bird brain in the body of a human. You are like a bird not understanding that this is a mirror and there is no other bird next to you. Like I did say human small talk is very simplistic. And it having the right small talk points for you is literally not impressive and not intelligence. For real machine intelligence we need to wait 3 or 5 more paradigm shifts. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>978158>>977979>>977980>qualia Qualia is literally bullshit that can not exist.Qualia is a nonsense word.>but it's still intelligence.It literally is not.>but if you observe it you will notice how it processes it's environment and execute coherent actions.And this is something a LLM will literally never do!!!!!It literally reacts to your prompts you dumb fuck! How stupid can you be? Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>978160>>977979>>977980>it did evolve Are you denying reality now?Chat GPT did not evolve! IT was made artificially by humans to predict the next word. Like a fucken plant who evolved to grow into the sun.Only chat GPT never evolved it was made by fake evolution in the computer to predict the next word. It literally can never get above this BECAUSE THIS IS HOW ARTIFICIALLY MAKING A LLM WORKS YOU TOTAL RETARD! 6/6
>>978155>>978156>>978157>>978158>>978160>>978161Are you well anon? You come across as rather unhinged.
This AI hype cycle is over. See you again in another 20 years.
What do you think about AI generated 3D models?https://lumalabs.ai/genie?view=preview>>>/v/664681839
>>971611>>971621>>971533Prompts for that proportions?
>>971511I have to admit that's pretty good.It would be easy to fix up the textures and if necessary tweak the topology. Even just as a concept/reference it would be a great starting point.But with that said, this kind of model would be very quick to make anyway since it's quite simple and uses a skull as a base.
>>971531Not sure if i care about the hardships of art personally. Thats not really a problem or a cause for sadness, however.Algorithms are definitely a tool that can give you something approximating what you wanted. Unless you dont care about the details (or quality if current year). And its the uttermost best at quantity wich has practical uses. It just lacks precision. Even ai engineers i know consider it a tool. As in you need to know when to use it. This might be confusing if you are autistic and therefore lack pattern recognition intelligence (seriously thats why they dont get humor. But they make up for it dw). Basicly human beings have evolved to crystalyze personal experiences through medium using a process on the level of complexity of a quantum computer (human brain). Pepole dont show up to watch a movie about some generic knight in armor with a crest. They show up to see how the author will interpret that story and how the details blend together to create meaningful patterns. This is an actual brain process associated with non autistic high IQ you can see on IRMS brain scans. On top of being a language on self expression. Sort of like an auto biography. Like historical value. There is a reason to worry tought, its that it will eat up commissions work for beginners wich will prevent pepole who arent good enough to show something meaningful yet to ever get to that point. And at worst it could be a mild loss of a language and weaken humanity's common unconscious and cause cultural stagnation since it only uses old data. The potential for interactive world however. That will be actualy awesome even if random, much like nature. And if ITS possible, you could even simulate a quantum computer brain. Then, wire it with pattern recognition arborescent thinking on the same level as us. It would be awesome to see how it would express its own perspective and purpose. But at this point it might be conscious and thats an entirely different can of worms and ethics.
>>971511theyre ugly and would need a ton of manual fixing to be presentable unless you're making a shitty mobile game where the screen's too small for anyone to notice
>>971511>What do you think about AI STOLEN MODELS ?LOL will be hilarious if the prompters realize the AI can generate only the same 100 models OVER AND OVER AN OVER!
/beg/ - Beginner's General -Free chicks editionPrevious thread: >>960431Last thread was a success and reached img limit, guess it'll be helpful to continue.Beginners, feel free to post any questions, issues, projects, or anything you want looked at here. There's no stupid questions, we were all beginners once.Other anons that are willing to try and help out (if you want), explain things as simply as you can, and try to be patient with the people just getting started.Going by the OP of the last thread,>You are a beg for at least 2 years, depending on software.This also might be helpful for anons just starting out and want to know some different places to get textures and other resources.List of free resources: https://pastebin.com/cZLVnNtBFeel free to check out some of the other generals as wellComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>978032>Use multires. Avoid multiple body meshes.sorry im sure this would be sound advice if I knew what multires actually was.
How come the lighting isn't right on the front of the table? My normals are fine and I don't see any clipping geometry. It's only like this in cycles, it renders completely fine both in cycles render view and in Eevee.
>money for nothingbased i love that style
>>978140Might have a normal map that's completely fucked.
>>977728amazed at own ability to make soulless things
WARNING this subject is purged by the mods for no fucken reason whatsoever! Yes the VR schizo can make a thread and shitpost every day however mention this modeling technique will get your thread PURGED!!!!!!!!!So I want to ask others about "Lattice Modeling" I have a old paper book taking about how to use blender and Lattice Modeling ism mentioned there and I got great results by using it. Forget sculpting take a cube and a sphere and simply start modeling it with a Lattice with voxel remesher this is infnetly better.I wanted to know what others know about this modeling subject and for others to post video tutorials on this subject.Looks like a old and great way to model rounded machines and cars, because subsurface modeling is literal cancer. Lets see if the mods purge this thread while we get daily shit posts about the garbage that is photogrametry.
>>978153>>978159>>978162>>978164>>978165I made this quick starship model in Blender 4.0 using mostly the lattice modifier and then only used sculpt mode to make smooth some areas.There are some un expected behaviors from the lattice and you need to mirror it on the X by hand after you finish however the results look great. If only there where better resources or tricks to it..... IT took me ~30 minutes to make this.
>>978151What you are mentioning is something from days long gone, an era before Maya and Blender existed. It’s forgotten in film and art but 3D Printing makes sense for this method. I think there’s is one software that currently exists with what you want to know. I have too look into it. As to why we moved to box and script, it’s kinda obvious because we have more control over it and offer more 3D looks than the lattice ways.
>>978165>lattice modifier is stuck in 1995Because it was superceded by Mesh Deform and then by Laplacian deform.
>>978167Don't you a have a furry sculpt to retopo or something? Can't you leave us alone to discuss interesting stuff for 5 minutes?
>>978167>we have more control over itI disagree.If you want to make cars or star ships then the more control = make ugly uneven shit that you need to be extra careful to not make look like trash and then smooth in sculpt mode.>As to why we moved to box and script,What do you mean script?Box modeling looks like cancer.I get nice rounded shapes with lattice.> before Maya and Blender existedinteresting.Yet I literally have this old book mentioning how to model and talking about this.
Is Blender sculpting good enough if i just want to make huge animu tiddies models?
>>961041Topology and POLISH?https://youtu.be/wX9OyCltlGM?t=88
I'm just here for 3D anime titties
> Break laptop> With all shortcuts and settings> They're impossible to retrieveOk fuck it, I'm making a new UII need all your opinions on making a Zbrush UI to use with an Intuos Pro. Especially when it comes to shortcuts.What do you think is the best pen and tablet shortcuts setup? Obvioulsy ALT, SHIFT and CTRL are going to be there but what about the rest or even combinations of these?I'm planning on making a custom panel too. What should I put in it?
>>978082Gold standard is to get a 3Dconnexion device and have your shortcuts there.Barring that Just put your favorite brushes on the remaining buttons.
>>978083> 330€I'm not paid for this, I'm a hobbyist dude
nefwags can't coneforce
did I do it right?
no matter what i do, i can't move the cone over
So I'm finally unbanned. /archviz/ was cool but was pruned in the ban I'm no longer in the mood for that.So /3dsg/ anything 3ds max related. Tell me if you have any doubts using this god awful fucking piece shit of a software, wips, works etc etc.
>>977665Nope sorry.>>978047No fucking clue I'm still using 22. Stabiliy is king. I never change version until I hear from at least 3 updates/bux fixes.>>978085Fixing splines is the bread and butter of archviz in max. I can't see shit from that screenshot If you post the dwg (or a t least a part I can make a quick video on how I'd do it). 1.Don't use the fix normals modifier, you have more control with the edit poly modifier. 2.Bad splines give bad geometry, never extrude until you have a 100% congruent spline.Max has a lot of features nut seriously lacks in spline tools. I have some vanilla code for that purpose but It's not for beginners since there is no use for it if you don't know what needs to be done.
>>977656Still have a lot in my lap this month but I haven't forgotten. An do its far easier to code a scipt that fixes geometry than one that creates patches.
>>978098I had to put editable spline over the base edit spline (after deleting all other modifiers) to recover its shape, doesn't anything otherwise, just gizmo
>>978103how it looks pre-edits
>>978100>I haven't forgottengreat, dont forget my emailsocmail1234@gmail.com
is there any ACTUALLY Physically-based renderer that can simulate the wave-particle duality properties of light to recreate the double slut experiment?
>>975901To recreate the double slut experiment just render your lady like normally and then cross your eyes slightly
double slit isnt about light, its about particles launched one at a time
>>978129Isn't the double slit experiment a demonstration of how light diffracts near edges of objects? Like you see a 'diffraction pattern' traditionally mistaken for a 'interference pattern' even with single photons because even individual photons will diffract along the edges of either slit.
>>978131Refreshed my memory, diffraction is part of it but not the entire story, it's basically a demonstration that any interaction with whatever a photon is will alter it's state and have it assume a new state from the point of interaction. It's cryptically refereed to as 'waveparticle duality' which in my view is a unfortunately mystic sounding way to say that what a photon ultimately actually is will be something that is neither a wave nor a particle but will reveal itself to us in either of those ways depending on how we interact with it.It's true nature is something from the quantum realm that doesn't really map cleanly onto any concept we experience on our scale.Kinda like how you can get a vastly different view of what a elephant is depending on what part you touch.>>975901There are diffraction effect renderers but what happens in the double slit experiment is much to low level for how anything models photons in raytracers.It's ultimately unknown to modern physics since we don't have a complete understanding of how reality operates on that level, any attempt to model it will unravel into theoretical physics.
>>977984well, yeah. kiddo. your mum alone is double slut enough for me. heh
Just got announced at GDC. How over is it for material artists? >Adobe says it can generate “photorealistic or stylized textures” from prompt descriptions, such as scaled skin or woven fabric. These textures can then be applied directly to 3D models, sparing designers from needing to find appropriate reference materials.
>>978099God these niggers are doing anything but improving substance, Adobe buying it has been the worst thing that happened to 3dcg ever
>>978107i think this was inevitable, even if adobe hadn't purchased substance.but yeah, substance designer is dead software walking imo - i'd actively tell people to not learn it if they haven't already. i feel bad for people who've spent years getting very good at it.
>>978111Well what's a good alternative in your opinion? I've been using it for years and hating it
>>978111this is battle-tested industry standard software. they are now showing off literally instant photorealistic textures powered by ai. find me any other software that comes close. i stand with Adobe
/Questions Bread/. Post your 3dcg questions here and hope for good answers. Lets'a go
How can I turn a red normal map into a lilac purple normal map? I have gimp and paint.net at my disposal
>>978130idk exactly what a red normal map is.If it's bgr instead of rgb then you can reverse the color channels, ez to do in blender and hopefully gimpIf it's a bump map encoded into the red channel of an image then you can run it through a bump node and save the result (also easy in blender)
>>978136it looks like left when it should look more like the right, right is obviously a different normal map but the color is the main thingI'll try messing around with color channels in gimp because I have no clue how to use blender at all and every time I try it just ends with me being frustrated and using a different programthanks for answering
>>978137forgot the comparison pic because I have brain damage
How do I into photogrammetry?I make custom hotwheels for a tabletop game called Gaslands. I also play on tabletop simulator and it'd be cool to scan in my own cars to use. They don't have to be particularly accurate, lower poly count the better.
I want one of you to show me how to make low poly model like this. Please show me. Please, please. Please. I want someone to stream and show me. Please. Why the fuck do I have to learn on my own. Please show me.
>>973771he is streaming it, so mostly a lot of teaching/talking, hell I skimmed it, and he was going on about making a playdough finger to have a scorpion attack it to extract poison. but in skimming... its like holy shit, he is barely using the program to sculpt, at that point he in all honestly would have been better off getting a base model and then moving over to blender or any other poly modeling program rather than trying to poly model in z brush.
>>973781its far FAR easier to sculpt an organic thing and then scale back with a remesh than it is to make it ground up from pollies unless you specifically draw it to be modeled.
>>978073for a model as lowpoly as the one in the op image you definitely do not need to sculpt and remesh and bake etc its very clearly handpainted texturesto remesh it you would be losing so much detail theres literally zero benefit to sculpting and remeshing it all for a baked texture you wont need because op is handpaintedyour method would require so much correcting and polymodeling you might as well have just polymodeled it to begin with, massive waste of time
>>973763I just go here>https://www.models-resource.com/and download a model I like and study it, it's topology, it's textures. No fucking industry big wig is going to teach you how to make texture convey form to keep poly counts down, all they know is pixar shit.
>>978075oh, i'm not saying bake anything, I mean its far easier to shape the body with a sculpt and remesh it, nothing to the level of baking, just enough to get a low poly out of it.especially if you suck or if you are going into it with no model reference images, moving around some 'clay' is far easier than unfucking low poly mesh. then you build up the mesh from the sculpt correctly.
so imagine that i got good at 3d modeling, how do i realistically make money? is porn the fastest and easy route? how do you build a fanbase or do you make videos for pornhub and cash on views?i dont want to work in a studio or with other people, want to fly solo here
>>977045I started posting pornographic LoRAs to CivitAI. On first weeks I got so many fans/stalkers commenting every post and writing me personal messages...
>>976664>or is that a meme?It is a meme.Simply disable the texture and see what a ugly warped mess it really is. The textures it makes are literally the only thing faking this to be like the scanned model.
>>977857id argue it makes a good base model for you to clean up if you are faster irl than digital, any texture that comes out of it could also be useful for creating the better one later on.
>>977907>id argue it makes a good base modelLOL it does not.>are faster irl than digital, LOL. There is no faster with photogrametry you need to walk slowly around the object or the camera gets confused and fucked up by fast motion.>>are faster irl than digital, Post the mesh you get and what phone and what software you used.Because these blobs it generates are so trivial that everyone can fart them out in less then it takes for you to walk to the object with your phone.I used photogrametry software before and here is the thing.The only good thing about it is that it generates non-geometric blobs that it then wraps a texture around it to fake for the humans the illusion of detail. And in 2024 the uses for this are limited.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>976664People do make money by doing this, but with much higher end scanners scanning stuff like old out of print miniatures I would assume it's also pretty much completely illegal under copyright law
I am now much stronger, and now have mastered AI as well as 3D and 2D.
>>977992>1D pong with anime girlsokay, interesting idea. Maybe next you can work on Watching Paint Dry Simulator 2024
>>977992>>978003its literally an autistic ripoff of tekken volleyball.prepare your ass for lawsuit from namco, cris.
>>977992Hey thats honestly really neat. I work for an indy dev company and its always nice to see pepole make stuff. It just seems like the wrong board ? Yeah then again the game boards are really awful for the sake of it when it comes to dev. Lot of spite. Just find a normal place to post your stuff you sweet summer child.
>>977992I would suggests a 10-50% speed increase each hit with a frame perfect timing to always block regardless of speed or actual hitthis will make people have to input the command faster and you won't get stuck in an infinite loopif 2 people played in an arcade the person would likely advance toward the player, you could add in a feature to hold the projectile by holding back back down and forward down, this would fling the ball in the direction that the stick would take to reach neutral, with the back up position causing the player to jump up before launching, and then at the apex the direction of the stick, back back up or back down would further make the character move in that direction. possibly after block a forward up forward down or forward command could fling the ball at a faster rate than normal bouncing it back and forth would provide. from here, have 2 balls able to collide, and have a splash damage radios from it, just so you don't have 2 people skill locked on firing these things off constantly till a time runs out, and to disincentivize only countering the ball with another ball.
Time to retake my style, but polish it more.