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Hello, I have a few questions about the state of the game.

1. It appears that many developers have left the PP throughout 2018, is PP in financial problems?

2. We have MK3 faction books for all factions, will we ever get to MK4 and therefore have new faction books or is CID the eternal path forward and there shall be no MK4?

3. No Quarter Prime is dead, but it was really rich with lore, as well as detailing new theme forces such as Man-O-War, Gators, etc. Will some new magazine come out?

4. Any chance of new gargantuans?
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> the main factions are bloated

I feel the opposite, I feel there is still so much room for each of the factions to explore.

I would really like to know how everybody else feels on this issue?
I think some themes are played out- take circle or trolls or especially cryx where theres both large variance in identity and playstyle between the factions and thanks to themes you cant cross play most of those models.

I think theres plenty of room for growth( morrow vs thamar, bogtrogs and croaks, other ret houses, etc) but due to the nature of themes it gets too restrictive. Like khador- theres kayazay, iron fangs, winter guard. But you need solos and units for each mini faction that doesnt transfer over. If the game had more themes like irregulars, WWFF, and defenders of Ios itd be better but as it stands? No

And remember if a theme sucks, then the whole mini faction becomes redundant. Whereas if we all had an irregular theme then we could mix and match whatever for fun.
Well, the stated goal of themes was to prevent the entire faction from mixing together.
I get that, but sometimes it's fun to mix and match.

I run irregulars and wwff all the time because a- I can cover the weakness of my "primary"theme due to the open ended nature of the theme. I almost never run 2 of the same theme due to WWFF and irregulars having many weaknesses but I have a different list each time. Whereas blindwater is posse/croaks n vault. Or most other themes is 2 3 units eith support and that's pretty much static across casters or Jack's they bring. Leads to lots of repetition.

I bet we can all name a dawnguard, iron fang, bane, or northkin list weve seen 10x the same way save caster. Wheras the more open theme like WWFF are constantly evolving without becoming OP or making other themes redundant.

Even irregulars only needed a small tweak to be ok again and it was considered one of the best themes. Why? Not due to its bonuses but due to how open it could be.
>Or most other themes is 2 3 units eith support and that's pretty much static across casters or Jack's they bring
To be fair that is essentially all that is available to some themes.
And mercs, but some may say they aren't really thematic in non-merc themes.

>the party encounters a destroyer and an angel
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>following the king
I hope he likes eating shit because that's all I'm feeding him.
It only ends badly since he's visiting a post apocalyptic setting
How does he react to catnip? Like other cats? If I put down a large box will he sit in it? Does he chase after laser pointer dots?

Other guy seems like he's pretty chill.

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should a fertility cult, by necessity be centered around a female deity?
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Why do you not know there were both female and male fertility gods? Simple google search, Chaac from Mayan mythology is one.

Serial Killers don't. in fact, a common theme among them is that their mothers were shitty to them.

That's irresponsible of him. Did he tell his partners he had divinity when slept with them, or did he hide it and justt give it to them?

Fellas (This applies to ladies too, but I know they're probably not around these parts), make sure you inform your partner that you have divnity, and use protection to make sure you don't pass it on.
they erect big towers as much as they can. The bigger tower you make the closer you are to cloud 9
the best fertility gods are hermaphroditic in nature, able to embody the various essential elements of the male/female dichotomy in raising and producing offspring. The next best are a husband and wife teams.

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Where is this meme from?
Wayne's World
Party time!
snakes & ladders

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Thread Topic: Non-Primarch Details

Old Thread: >>64073230

What once started as a simple smut thread, soon developed into a different, mostly serious retelling of the Heresy, with an previously unseen scramble of the Loyalists and Traitor legions, alongside new concepts, troops and history!

WIP Pastebin:

WIP 1d4chan article:

The Loyalist Traitor divide!

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How is it any different then what they do OTL?
>Black Templars

Honestly, I'd see them go even further into their zealous hate, because now they need to constantly prove themselves in their eyes. Adhering to The Codex is probable, if only to prove to Hera that they are loyal to The Imperium, but I'd doubt they'd have more sympathy than before. They'd still be Swords, always on the attack. always pushing the boundaries of The Imperium, they'd just be doing it to make up for an even greater failure in Sigismund's eyes.
The failure of not stopping Dorn?

I like it!
The Eternal Crusade, to bring their damned Father to justice.

Let none rest while the heretic still draws breath.
How appropriately Black Templar!

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whatever you roll becomes your next BBEG
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Rolled 8, 20, 17, 14, 6, 20 = 85 (6d20)


Gotta go back to le reddit.
Rolled 2, 14, 10, 17, 8, 11 = 62 (6d20)

lets go!

Let's give this a whirl.
Rolled 13, 4, 6, 8, 5, 15 = 51 (6d20)

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This is Malal cat
Say something nice or it will push all of your miniatures off the table
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You beat me to it.
A fantasy race where all individuals are made up of one or more genetic singleton? Hm. Yeah that could be cool. Kinda like Mongrelmen but a bit less "random animal parts".
I loved your role as Two-Face in Into The Batverse.
Thank you for transporting me back to the memes of yesteryear, OP.
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what kind of society do you envision for this little fella's race? what kind of enemies do they have?
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I imagine slimy reptiloids would be their worst enemies. That stuff gets in their fur and does not come out.

Also shepherds shears-based civilizations.
It's for slitting plants open.
I imagine they exist solely to collect gems from an autistic purple dragon and his dragonfly companion to grant him passage across bridges and whatnot
That weapon looks scavenged so I assume some kind of post apocalyptic nomadic tribe wandering around searching for scrap deposit.
Enemies would still intact auto defenses and hostile wildlife.

So basically Rain World but not alone.
The rare Yeti is actually not that rare its just so fucking cold no one ever visits.

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Also check "yellow pancakes" on 4plebs and the PDF share thread: >>64095808

>Thread question:
Lunars. How do they work?
(Treat for the forever-GMs to jerk themselves off)

>Previous thread:
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The long nosed tribe will return as part of the hero wars
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Remember to fight the undead.
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Teshnos, being notIndia, have plenty of elephants

There were also these guys, who were some form of Orlanthi. Not sure if they are still around.
Mamoths are related to Vadrus, so probably tehy are a tribe than worshiped him.
While they have a relation to Vadrus they were actually created by his son Valind. The wooly rhino is the personal animal of Vadrus.

But yeah I think they are some kind of vadrulings that joined with the vingkotlings. If they were straight up vadrulings they'd not be so fancy and "civilised" and just smash things with clubs.

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a close friend of mine has recently started obsessively watching Critical Role. we had planned on starting a 2e/OSR campaign soon, but now he's talking about wanting to play 5e and basically emulate the show. I've told him it's basically scripted and not what tabletop role-playing is actually like, but he doesn't believe me.
I'm not fucking DMing 5e. I'm just not going to do it. the fucking Hasbro-sponsored shills of Critical Role are ruining this hobby, and my campaign before it even starts.
I can already imagine the "well that's not how CR does it" bullshit every 10 minutes.
I can't just ditch him; he's a close friend of many years. but where I was once really excited to run a campaign again, I've now lost every bit of enthusiasm.
is there a solution? this is so fucking shitty. fuck anyone that decries "gatekeeping" in hobbies. if we had better gatekeeping, we wouldn't have to deal with the influx of political bullshit and the dumbing-down of this hobby.
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oh...oh wow. ok then. I'll just be diplomatic but firm, I guess, and run the game I've been wanting to run. I mean, this friend had played 3e ONCE, that's it. but watching CR bullshit has his head in the clouds. I have no desire to interact with either 5e or a CR style of game.
he even said he knows the show isn't real, but "it's just really neat."
I'll give it a shot but goddamn I just know the way he is, and it will undoubtedly become an issue. sometimes this fucking hobby isn't worth it...
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Hm. I have two people that I would say are incompatible in my group of five.
>playing 3.5
>encourage a high level of roleplay(as in, I want people that interact with the story and characters rather than take a backseat to it)
>two of my players have no problem with this
>one other is getting better steadily, as I know she deals with social anxiety is only improving with time
>all three of these have no prior table-top experience
>the other two have plenty
>they are terrible to play with
>both are still incapable of learning the system after 10 months despite playing the simplest of classes
>one complained about how weak he was, and asked me how to improve his character
>he had apparently neglected to add his HP I rolled for him every level up to his character and managed to not grab 8 levels worth of feats
>he is a martial and still doesnt know how to make an attack roll
>he adds nothing to the game rp-wise and is easily the most boring character
>he has tried to let me allow his girlfriend in the game a few times(I've shut him down thoroughly)
>the other one is the typical 'I sit and the corner to look cool and don't interact'

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that's shit, man.
I kinda wish Critical Retards would run their own game instead of trying to force others to do it for them.
But that would be too hard I guess.
>>he is a martial and still doesnt know how to make an attack roll
I played with a guy like that once.
Played for months and he still got d12s and d20s mixed up. Could not ever figure out why he never rolled higher than a 12 to hit, even after explaining it to him.

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Another fortnight passes, and once again the Storythread renews itself like a phoenix burning to ash and rising again. Or something like that.

This is a thread for creative writing of /tg/-related fiction, so epic campaign greentexts and other non-fiction go elsewhere. If you have /tg/ related stories to post, post them here, and hopefully some kind anon will give you feedback (or at least acknowledge that someone did actually read it, which let's face it is what writefags really want).

What counts as /tg/-related? Anything someone could plausibly use in a campaign (which means basically anything if you have enough imagination).

If you don't have a story ready then I and other anons will be posting pictures throughout the thread for you to test your writing skills on. This is, more or less, a world-building and character-building exercise: two vital skills for playing roleplaying games. If you don't have any pics to post, you could try posting an idea for a setting or a character, and maybe someone will be willing to write a story using it. It's also an exercise in writing though, where writefags can try out their material and gain inspiration, so if you just want to talk about world-building you may want to head over to the dedicated world-building threads.

Remember that writefags love to have feedback on their work. Writing takes a long time, especially stories that go over several posts, and it can be really depressing when no one even seems to read it (and the writer won't know you read it unless you leave a comment).

And since writing takes a long time remember to keep the thread bumped. Pics are good, feedback is better.

There is a discord for writers:

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Okay, the first impression I have is that it's a bit overwritten. You've tried to give extra weight to the scene by using a highly formal register - sophisticated vocabulary, slightly stilted phrasing, that sort of thing - but you don't write like that often enough to be comfortable with it, and the result is a little awkward. To show you what I mean I've taken the liberty of rewriting your first paragraph to tidy up the style and remove some of the errors.

>Lamarack Mortorel paced nervously at the entrance of the Grand Imperial Museum of the Great Crusade. So wide was the entrance to the museum that he could only make two or three breadths before he grew tired of the exercise, and sought a column of marble to lean on. Although his appointment was set for 2pm, he'd been there since sunrise. A meeting like this only comes once in a lifetime for mere men such as he, and he had no intention of letting anything keep him from it.

>Still, one had to pass the time. He'd watched the sun rise over the great monolithic hab-structures, the once grey and gritty skies clearing into brighter and brighter shades of blue every year as the Mechanicus laboured to purify the air, converting the pollution into physical blocks of building material and burning whatever chemicals were pulled from the air into a pure, sustaining fuel to continue the process.

As you can see, you don't need to rewrite the whole thing. Just tidy, trim, reorganise and find a better synonym in a couple of places. In general I think you needed to edit more carefully; in a couple of places you've written things that aren't just awkward but don't even make sense. e.g:

>Personally, Lamarack always thought the sight of Titans locked in combat against each other, as though man were still capable of civil war with itself.
Presumably it's meant to be 'Lamarack always thought the sight of Titans locked in combat against each other'.

As for the story - well, I should first admit that I never liked the Horus Heresy to begin with (for the same reason we didn't need a prequel to Alien: the mystery is half the point). However, I think someone that does like the Horus Heresy would like this story a lot. It's a very moving scene, and if you'd just tidy up the style a little I think it would be a popular story.
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Not bad, although your phrasing is a little awkward in places. I didn't see the ending coming, I'll give you that.

Descriptively ominous, but could do with more plot.

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God damn it, Burlew, that's actually fucking funny.
Alright, I'll hand it to him, that was funny.
I always appreciate a sudden interruption to "words words words" exposition too.
Critical burn. A good thing he's already black!

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Starting a new game of 5E with some friends and need to prepare for the game. I've only ran lost mines for them before and they mostly just fucked around and goofed off. Don't have a problem with that just wondering how much i should prep for that style of game. Any good ideas or recommendations of some fun modules?
Make sure you got a notekbook or something so you can keep track of things theyre interested in/are looking for. This is the best way I've found for keeping the game dynamic
B2 Keep on the Borderlands is always good and has survived many a fuck-around-y party.
>goofed off
Don't prep for this kind of group. Run modules and pure improv. They'll only shit on your prep.
Thanks ill keep this in mind and try to come up with some random stuff i can throw in depending on what they do
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>based Jeff Easley DMG art

That dog has patrician taste.

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Stat her tg
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Get an ability that lets you turn into whatever the hell >>64171363 is, then take the Warshaper PrC + Beast Strike feat. Be a dragonborn or something so you have the right type.
Nohrians are better off dead and being able to win huge battles by not killing anyone is retarded and only makes Fates even dumber than it already is.
>boomer doesn't know that FE has always been otome as fuck and even fates has more otome bait than waifu bait
Every time.

I feel like Awakening was literally the only way you could do child units in a way that didn't require a massive timeskip at a certain point. The mechanic should not have returned for Fates, however, as the deeprealms didn't make any sense and made most of the cast into criminally neglectful parents.


Conquest would've been so easy to salvage, too. Instead of "Garon is pure evil" they could've easily had him be a hardass because he rules over a starving tundra instead of the literal paradise next door that won't trade with him. Hoshido and Nohr are set at each other's throats by Anankos as retribution for "betraying" him long ago, so you can easily have Iago and Yukimura both be sleeper agents feeding the conflict, Iago encouraging Garon to raze Hoshido and Yukimura fanning Ryoma and Takumi's grudge against Nohr. Yukimura's a complete non-character, if he was a bad guy he'd at least be contributing SOMETHING.

It's kind of insulting that Fates and Echoes came out back to back when Echoes shoes the writers had ALREADY DONE a plot of "one kingdom is harsh and forced into a warlike culture while the other lives in effortless abundance," only Gaiden/Echoes reflected that the second kingdom is filled with spoiled hedonistic nobles instead of enlightened samurai.
Awakening kids weren't tacked on at all, the fates kids are the ones that are.

How would you gamify PCs hard-boiled voiceover narration into an rpg?
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Find a system which gives rewards for good descriptions (Fate, for example) and better rewards to ones delivered in that style (after making it explicitly clear that is what you are doing).
Let's hear some lines.
>"The broad was the type to take a photo with her gorgeous ladyfriend and put it in the paper's singles column."
Wushu Open with some FATE elements would work well together.
Start over.
This is serendipity, because I'm in a game where one of the other players based his PC on Philip Marlowe.

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