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Why do women feel entitled to their eyesight?

http://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-47253162
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Fuck off, you already made this shitty incel thread on /r9k/.
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>>20600064
This
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>>20600058
Man that's so sad. Don't think I will ever drink vodka again.
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>>20600080
Hahaha give it to me

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So I hear everywhere that I need to be happy with myself before any girl will like me. And I was happy with myself. I would spend every day going to the gym, reading, practicing guitar, looking for work, focusing on classes, all that crap. I was at peace.

And then all that stopped. I started feeling horribly lonely and I couldn't keep that positive attitude up any longer. Now I just want someone to hold me before I jackknife out my fourth story window.

How can I reclaim that feeling of being content with myself and actually KEEP it? I think I lost it when my friends all got girlfriends and I wasn't able to spend as much time with them. Also I'm a gigantic fucking sperg so flirting is really difficult for me and it makes me feel pathetic and worthless.
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>>20600054
Well if the relationship is healthy then shell do the same. Thats what dating's about. Its not about finding someone who will love you, its about finding someone worthy of loving.
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>>20600001
And how do you actively seek for friends?
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>>20600065
By just getting out in the world and doing whatever you love doing, then you'll meet people similar to you. Try using the meetup app sometime. Hell, you scoffed at hookers, but my two very best friends are hookers. You never know just who the hell you'll connect with out there, thats the beauty of it all.
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>>20600079
I'm not OP. I do what I like and never meet women anywhere. Not being into the same things as you are does not mean that I don't respect other people or don't want to connect with them.
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>>20600091
You don't live life for others, you live life for you.

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GUIDELINES:
Before you post a question, check the FAQ to see if it's already been answered.
Keep questions short for more answers.
If you're not going to like honest answers, don't ask your question.
And please no derailing arguments.

FAQ:
>Do girls/guys like <insert specific look>?
>What do girls/guys think about <an insecurity including, but not limited to: looks, physical traits, personality traits, virginity or otherwise lack of dating experience>
There is no one answer. Preferences differ, but complexes are always a turn-off.

>I'm shy and afraid of people/rejection. What do I do?
Get over it by practicing and exposing yourself to it, little by little, step by step. There is no single magical moment that will instantly change you forever.

>I like someone. What do I do?

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>>20600055
>It's true that dating a busier person than you is a tough spot to find yourself in. They've got stuff to occupy their mind when you've got all the time in the world to think about them.
I don't get it. You are not a dog that is waiting at home all day doing nothing. Just do something productive in the meantime, exercise or pick up a hobby. There is no such thing as having too much time.
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>>20600052
Very true. I'm interested in some anecdotes, if you would share. But how do I break this cycle? I don't want things to be this way, but really, I did fall in love with the romance of the initial period and his attenttiveness. I feel like this is a fairytale I shouldn't believe in.
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>>20600070
They do occupy my mind at almost all hours even when I'm doing something else.
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>>20600052
In a good relationship the woman will be giving herself completely to her man because it makes her feel good to see her man feel good because of her.

In return the man takes great care to make her feel good for the reasons described above, as well as lead her, care for and protect her.

The world isn't the incel soiboi fantasy you fear it is.
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>>20600086
I don't think the world is like the incels say it is. Those things in my post are just things I've observed in my time. Girls want a lot and often they ask for it without really thinking of whether or not they are worthy of it. In return you aren't allowed to do much more than ask them not to see other people without offending their sensibilities over what their boyfriend should and shouldn't be allowed to say to them.

Ideally both people make the other a priority, but it still doesn't mean they are a priority to the exclusion of all else, and there still needs to be a sort of balance where both people are equally invested in each other. Where there is unequal investment you tend to end up with a situation like OP is saying, where the more invested party ends up feeling hurt just because the other person doesn't measure up to what they were expecting them to put into a relationship.

How do I date as an ugly as shit femanon? I get done all I can really. I do all the skin care, I've gotten fit, Ive seen god knows how many makeup videos. My face is just bad. I'm legit looking up botox for wrinkles at 23. my nose is huge. I've tried to set up a dating profile but I can't take a single selfie that I don't immediately delete.

Should I just buy cats and move on with my life? I feel crushed and completely dysfunctional as a person.

I work and make ok money, so I can survive. It's just really really lonely. Like, suicidally so.

The thing is, that no aspect of my face will ever get better. I am just out of options and sad.
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>>20598519
As a non native English speaker, i feel proud of myself for being able to read this
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You're just mad because I get more clash pussy you niggers!
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Based thread
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Newfag here, didn't want to deal with Redditfags. Ex dumped me a month ago for a Chad after surgery meant no sex for three weeks. Still have her number. Any revenge tips?
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>>20598767
Ride the chad's dick and show her who's boss
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>>20598767
Rape the Chad.
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>>20598767
Move on with life. you'll end up being bitter.
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>he thinks he can escape the reach of the glorious and all-knowing reddit empire
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>>20599816
>this.
You gunna be okay. She sounds like she makes poor life choices so shit will catch up to her.

Anything to help pass it? Stopped smoking weed last month but i smoked too much, even though I’m skinny. I knew the risks but it helped me 100x more than my antidepressants did.
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>>20599779
lmao dumb druggie
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Buy clean urine on black market
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>>20599779

Got any friend who doesn't do drugs? Just ask him to piss in one of the pic related (or any other container) and sneak it in on toilet, izy
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>>20600022
Don't they like get your dna from the piss to identify you or something?
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>>20600043
Lol, no

So /adv/, my 7 yo son is scared shitless of me and I don’t know why. I never hit him, raise my voice only in extreme cases and am generally really nice, albeit strict. However, whenever I raid my hand to pat him on the head, or approach him slightly faster then usual, he fucking cowers in fear, literally covering his face and even whimpering sometimes. My wife has noticed it as well, but luckily she knows me and that I would never hurt him. I tried asking him, why is he afraid of me and he just mumbleds something about not being and never opens up. Do you guys have any idea what can cause this?
Also, I’m taking him to a psychologist next month, because of that.
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>>20599999
Damn son
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>>20599999
Find out what is going on before you jump to conclusions, kids have no perspective so little things can seem like the world is collapsing and heavy stuff can be neglected as everyday stuff everyone deals with.

I didn't think being bullied was a big deal when I was a kid. My parents asked me one day what my day was like and I just replied "just the usual" and they were horrified as they knew the bigger story from other sources. That teacher still works there.
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>>20599976
>They don't know bullying is going on.
That doesn't mean it's not going on. As someone who got bullied at school nobody knew because I was too afraid to say anything about it and my bully was a good liar.
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>>20600017
Yeah, I know it’s important not to jump to the conclusions. Still, it’s really worrying.
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>>20599824

Sounds like he’s being abused, you’re fucked.

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I can't live like this anymore, some days (like today) I can't function like
>i forget how to speak
>i stutter to the point I can't put 3 words together grammatically correct
>my mind is blank i cant answer simple questions
>i stutter again
>i forget everything, even basic daily shit
>i read and do not retain any info
>i can't form coherent thoughts, ideas dont come
>at best i have bits and pieces that i cant put toghether

And the more I fuck up the more retarded I become, I can't take the shame anymore people think I'm retarded, maybe I am. I'm also socially anxious and depressed but I rarely feel sadness anymore...i'm just gone, absent. I drink shit tons of coffee, tea, pills to help me wake up and nothing works
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>>20600039
Dude relax, you're just nervous. Try to put yourself out there a bit more so you can get comfortable talking to others. If you keep doing something uncomfortable, then you eventually get comfortable with said action.
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>>20600059
but at my age, fucking up like this brings me down in a way that jsut worsens my problem and it's a vicious cycle.

i am nervous atm, i wish i could disappear. but other times, i feel calm but just absentminded, it's not normal to not be able to do the simplest things others can and to not know basic things about how the world functions

i have days when things just flow, like i'm the most sociable and chill person and my brain functions relatively normal. then i wake up the next day and it's like i never knew anything and i can't get myself back in that mindset
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>>20600074
Socializing is like riding a bicycle, if you fall off during your first try you hop back on and try again, rinse and repeat until you get it right. You're on here and your talking, right? You got this.

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>Every girl who has ever had a crush on me has been shy as fuck
>I never know they have a crush on me until it's too late, they've moved on, and a girl friend of their's tells me about it like "haha remember that funny time when X had a crush on you"
>This is because these girls show literally zero signs of interest in me
>They never make eye contact, never speak to me, never smile at me, basically act like they hate me
>Then they secretly pine over me and message their friends about how cute I am
>They do this until they get bored that I'm not making a move, despite it being impossible for me to know they like me
>Want to die every time I find out about one of these missed opportunities
>It keeps happening

Why? Why do I keep attracting shy girls who are pussies and won't show their interest? Why can't I attract girls who actually have confidence and will smile at me and laugh at my jokes?
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>>20599777
This isn't the case. One time my friend actually showed me the messages of a girl who used to have a crush on me. She was sending her these repeated texts like "OMG your friend anon is so hot", "can you please set me up with anon", "his face is so beautiful". And yet this girl never spoke to me for more than 2 minutes, never payed attention to me, and I was convinced she hated my guts based on the way she acted towards me
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>>20599760
So, the Hinata's are attracted to you, huh? I'd say that you either never really picked up on the more nuance cues or you were in a social enviroment that they never really showed it i.e., work or school. It's going to sound cliché but the suspension bridge effect is in full play here, you should've went to a group outing be it movies or amusement park, hoped on some of the more rides that look dangerous and watch her bleed her heart out or show vulnerability towards you for example when you reach the top of a rollercast if she is holding unto the rails she isn't interested but if she reflectively clutch unto you, there's a sign she probably is interested.
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>>20599826
Actually I'm pretty sociable and thats why these girls even know who I am in the first place.

The worst thing is it's got even harder as I've got older. In high school at least these girls would occasionally slip up by seeming really awkward or clumsy in front of me and laughing too much, and even though I'd not clock it at the time I'd notice later down the line. But in college it's fucking impossible. Girls become even more shy as they get older and just refuse to show any signs of interest at all.
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Bump.
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>>20599785
some girl told me when a man she really likes enters the rooms she looks straight away. I don't get it. But I fucked her because I liked her and made moves on her without waiting for any signs from her

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And how did you move on / deal with it?
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>>20599737
To me choosing someone to be my partner who treats me well and we get along trumps even thinking about someone else. Even during hard times, it is a test of our ability to communicate and work together. Perhaps my sense of loyalty is off the charts.
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>>20599953
Keep up the good work anon. Got cucked in an almost identical way to you, except it turned out she had a personality disorder. Exercise is fantastic for dealing with the bullshit
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>>20598433
She was a poor liar. I could tell the way she looked at other men when we go out for drinks, and when I confront her about her flirty behavior, she rebuffs it or argue that I was paranoid, when even someone as dumb as Forrest Gump could tell what the hell she was doing, she has very expressive eyes. Turned out I was right when one day she caved in and disappeared for two days straight and slept with some who just had twins with someone!
BPD, not even once. Thank God I didn't assault her or else she would be laughing in bed while I'm behind bars.
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>>20599953
I've pretty much been cheated on like that too, the moment she met him I was basically an old rag that she had to dispose of in order to use the new one after 4 years of being with me. The way she stone cold told me that she slept with him because it just felt right was the closest I've come to jumping over the table and choking someone to death. I've dreamed about it for over two years. But I'd say after around the two year mark you're out of the woods.
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>>20599730

My man, i feel for you.

Now you have to dump that bitch from you head, dont let her control you anymore. Fix what is broken and look ahead in your life. Find somebody better.

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Does anyone have long term sinus problems? I keep going to doctors and they all tell me to use steroid based sinus sprays but is that really a permanent solution? Can I really use them for the rest of my life? I already got tested for allergies and I'm not allergic to anything. I think a medication I took in the past did permanent damage to my sinuses cuz that's when my smeller problems started up.
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try a neti pot. you'll wtf hard when you look up what it is but just get one and start using it. they're a real game changer
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>>20599185
How to make proper pizzasauce
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>>20599185
I have non alergic rinitis too, the sprays are useful to relieve symptoms, dont abuse them or it will make things worse, there isnt a permanent solution that I know off, just dealing with symptoms as they come
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>>20599598
And yeah neti pots work great, they sorta take a while to get ready and stuff so I never was able to use it regularly but when I did it did similarly to the sprays in terms of effectiveness

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Can I replace my urge for women with one of these dolls? I think I'll get one once I move out of my mom's place this year. Would it be weird to have one? Is it still not socially acceptable? Should I wait and bide my time until it becomes socially acceptable?
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>>20600045
you've never actually been in love huh?how old are you serious question?
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>>20600045
Love isn't looking at someone, it's about the time you spend with them and the two of you offering caring and support to each other. Your mother cared about you so much that she supported your life from birth to now. That's motherly love.

If she didn't love you or want you, she could have given you away or aborted you. She could have physically abused you or killed you because of how vulnerable you were as a child, but she didn't. She loved you, and still loves you now.

I really don't understand how someone could be so separated from reality that they can't understand the concept of love.

You're not gonna love someone just by looking at them. You're going to have to spend time with them, just like how your mother spent time with you teaching you how to walk or read, only as adults you will both be talking to each other to understand where each of you came from and what defines you as the adults you are today.

You will both reflect on how much you really care about each other, and evaluate if you want to support one another or not, which is what separates romantic love from the love that your parents gave you.
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>>20600062
Damn what kind of life have you had? I want that life, bit i'm stuck in South Florida ghetto right now. Don't worry though, one day I'll be rich enough to provide my kids a safe, nurturing home life so they can have your world view.
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>>20600057
You can buy individual vinyl ass cheeks or tits with sinking thousands of dollars into an entire sex doll. You can hire multiple escorts for the price of a sex doll. As others have already pointed out, the sex doll will require cleaning and maintanence that an escort would just take care of on her own.

It just seems like a very dumb investment of a lot of money for something you only value for sex. Most doll owners are mentally ill schizos that pretend the doll is a real person. Unless you want to pay a lot of money to be associated with freaks, there's better cheaper options out there.
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>>20600045
>Whenever I look at girls my age(18), I don't see much beyond the curve of their ass in the leggings they love wearing so much.
that's an integral part of love at your age. i understand that feeling well, it's one of the most wonderful things about being a man. have you ever actually felt a woman's body?

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I have a tendency to do things based on principle regardless of whether it will worsen the outcome of a situation for myself and I need you guys to tell me how bad I fucked up or if I was in the right here.

>have live in gf
>my house, I owned it before we started dating, she pays no rent or bills except that she pays for groceries when it's her that buys them
>this is fine I am more than capable of supporting myself and the household bills, she works so it's not like I'm paying her way in life either

>last night
>get into fight (that she picked)
>worst fight we've ever had in 2 years
>she tells me that I need to find somewhere else to sleep for the night, as in at someone else's house
>see red
>tell her that it's my house and she can go stay with her mother if we're at that point
>she back pedals, tries to tell me we aren't at that point but that I get to sleep on the lounge
>stick to my guns, tell her to leave
>she's sober and has her own car and licence, there's no reason she can't drive 15 minutes to her mum's place

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>>20599155
I'm being hardheaded but I think she's just being irrational, and that's basically par for the course with women. She almost certainly picked that fight because she was upset over something, probably had nothing to do with me, she's not a whinger normally but it doesn't take much to get her goat. I think that the reality is I just happened to be the one to cop the emotional outburst. I don't appreciate it and I'm not sorry for fighting back. The only point I'm willing to concede is that I'm sorry for kicking her out. I knew in the moment that I didn't need to and that I could have backed down at any moment and my point would have been made, I'm just too stubborn for that.

It's less a case of me trying to win and more a case of I need her to openly demonstrate that she understands exactly what it is that she did wrong. Maybe it doesn't need to be an apology as long as she can see the problems I was having with the whole situation. For now I'm going to go to her mum's house unless she says otherwise between now and then. I already set it up over text before lunch and she was okay with it.

Her friend is another issue. The gf knows that her friend is nuts. She's one of those girls you see on twitter boasting about smashing her boyfriend's consoles or slashing his tyres. But they are besties despite that and that comes with a certain amount of influence over one another. Honestly her friend deserves no respect. She's not a good person and is proud of the fact.

>>20599157
Sometimes I look hard at myself and I wonder just how much of a problem it is that I'd be willing to leave my gf of 2+ years over this. I know I'd be heart broken and that it would be zero consolation to have done it from the moral high ground, and yet I'm totally prepared to do it. Sometimes I think I'm really fucked in the head much worse than I even realise.
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>>20598586
Let her come back and apologise to her, but also do tell her that you still believe you made the right decision. Basically "I'm right, but I'm still sorry".
Ask to talk about whatever the fight was about to sort it out.
If you ever marry (which I would never recommend to anyone, but that's your problem) have a separation of goods contract so she won't take your house if you ever divorce.
Also encourage her to save money to buy her own house, she can rent that out while living with you but if anything happens she still has her own place, shouldn't be hard if you're supporting the household.
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You did perfectly well. She picked the fight because she can't properly communicate about her insecurities and she tried to kick you out of your own house.

Don't even begin to apologize and let her know you won't if she tries to blame you, but also tell her you did worry about her and want her to deal with her insecurities. Unfortunately she seems like an absolute child mentally with the pouting, insecurity and lack of respect. This kinda pushes the responsibility for everything onto you because you chose to make her your gf.

Do you make her feel loved? Attractive? Desired? What you said about liking her over coworkers sounds honest and logical and should be enough reassurance for a logical person but she is not a guy who works off logic. She is an emotional creature who maybe feels neglected, and has felt a simmering dissatisfaction with you that she felt she could tell you to gtfo the house.

Have you told her to do certain things for you, romantic, sexual, intimate etc. made her feel desired? Has she tried doing those things but perhaps you didn't give her the validation and appreciation she thought she'd get?
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Also, you're not fucked in the head. It takes extreme will to maintain self respect in a relationship for some. If you lose that you lose everything.
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Back with an update.

Skinny of it is that I went in and said my bit, apologising for sending her away last night when I knew it was over the line, explained that the way she blew up on me then tried to kick me out was the height of uncool and hurtful. I gave her back her keys.

She apologised too, for the fight and for saying I needed to leave. She admitted the fight was disproportionate to the topic and that she only told me to get out on impulse and not because she really thought it was reasonable to kick someone out of their own property.

For tonight she's going to stay with her mum and then come home tomorrow after work. We ate dinner at mine and sat together to watch a tv show and it was okay I think. Still not sure how this will land when she comes back tomorrow. Could be bad, lads.

>>20600042
Weirdly comforting to be told I'm not totally fucked.

>>20600035
The question of whether I make her feel loved and desired is actually something that's followed me throughout my dating life. Without wanting to out myself as a sociopath or anything, I am unempathetic in the extreme. To make a long story short, I am a smart dude, who was raised by a smart dude, and the habits that I picked up from him and then also developed on my own mean that I default to logic in every situation. I struggle to express emotion because I do not feel it very strongly and it rarely "serves" any other purpose. When I do express my feelings I'm often exaggerating or amplifying for the gratification of the other person. Strictly speaking I am not lying. I love my gf and I can feel it when I look at her, but if she were to put me on the spot and ask me what I'm thinking when I'm staring at her, the honest answer is going to be taken the wrong way by her, so I tend to embellish.

This is something that I've failed to change about myself. Ironically, girls always gush at first over how emotionally stable I am. It's only later that they realise there are drawbacks.

If you don't have your shit together by 30, is your life over?
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>>20599751
The 28+ thread is over here>>20592707
Use that or otherwise your problem will get lost in the sea of teen "problems" and bait that now compose most of /adv/
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I just turned 30.
I'm hikkikomori NEET.
Friendless, kissless virgin.
Possibility of getting a job that won't kill me mentally is approaching zero.
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>>20599751
Lol man, deleting the annoying virus of misunderstood social stigma is going to help ... Do what YOU think is best for you, do what YOU think is going to be your future and set up your priorities
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>>20599751
No. Hell, Abraham lived with his parents until he was 90.
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>>20599751
I managed to turn my life around at 30, and already by 33 I got a house, car, sex partners left and right. Now I’m 35, debt free and just do fun hobbies. It’s never too late.

How do people usually deal with being sexually abused? Is it something a person eventually gets over in their own or do they need professional help?
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Most people get a therapist and some years of help over it, depending on how severe it was.


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