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https://www.dhammatalks.org/books/ShapeOfSuffering/Contents.html
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFTkpFsLfrs&list=PLCXN1GlAupG3yowPq9fiy35EUC_uoEUrZ
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>>23328647
thanks
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>>23328555
That's not true
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>>23328533
>Sensuality touches you with pain, but at the same time, it offers you a solution for that same pain. It’s just like racketeering: “Okay, if you pay me, I’ll make your problems go away, problems that I put on you so that you will pay me”.
Surprisely astute and accurate reading of something buddhist on 4chan.

I've got a whole spirit based outlook about this.
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>>23328533
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUngLgGRJpo

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Cynic edition

>τὸ πρότερον νῆμα·
>>23256805

NOTE: replace ' dot ' with an actual dot to access the links below
>Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί·
https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw

>Mέγα τὸ ANE
https://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRg

Feel free to write your thoughts/stories/etc... in your target language.

>Work in progress FAQ

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>>23328554
https://dcc.dickinson.edu/grammar/latin/subordinate-clauses-indirect-discourse
This explains it pretty well.
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>>23328554
because they may take a simple object, the indirect statement is needed if the object they take is an entire phrase that would normally go in the indicative

scribam tibi multa(no infinitive), quibus docebo te artem illam(no infinitive), quam plerique aiunt mortalibus a dis emolumento donatam(infinitive phrase)
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>>23328420
>current year
fag
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>>23328554
There is one archaic exception to this. In old Latin (I know for sure in Plautus), sometimes the construction is replaced with a subjunctive. You will not see this in classical authors though.
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Ἐπαμεινώνδας ἄτεκνος ἀποφνήσκων
ἔλεγε τοῖς φίλοις, "Δύο θυγατέρας
ἀπέλιπον, τήν τε περὶ Λεύκτραν
νίκην καὶ περὶ Μαντίνειαν."

Epaimeinōndas sine fīliīs moriēns
dīcēbat amīcīs, "duās fīliās
relīquī, eam Leuctrīs
victōriam et alteram Mantinēae."

Epameinondas, as he was dying childless,
said to his friends, "Two daughters
have I left behind, the victory in Leuctra
and the other in Mantinea."

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Take a passage you wrote and post it as it was when you finished writing it by hand. Post the polished result after you used Chat GTP to polish it.

Ideally you do this naturally but if you have nerver done try it and post results. Or explain why you dont write with Chat GTP.

I just started writing this is the first 1000 words of fiction I have ever writen. As soon as GTP touch it it became so much better. I got really demoralised. I always knew I was trash but this is so much.
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>>23328361

> After chat GPT fix it

First, I carefully unfurled the plastic sheet, laying it flat on the floor. A tich and sturdy green cloth, spanning a rectangle roughly 50 cm by 100 cm. I positioned it horizontally, a protective barrier against the activity of the nanites, ensuring they wouldn't manipulate someting they ware not suppoed to.

Next, I placed the three plates atop the sheet, their weight settling with a muted thud. I opened the repair materials kit. Dust dominated the compartments, primarily iron particles with trace quantities of supporting elements, and even a minuscule amount of dirt cheap nanites.

I didnt have much practice ussing nanotechnology beside the basic instruction in the repair man course. Activating the nite function on my Android wristwatch, I set all parameters to default and toggled control to auto. A cloud of dusty materials materialized from my waist, the nanites responding to the transmitted instructions, converging around my left hand. For about thirty seconds, I maintained my hand over the plates, observing intently as the cloud descended upon them, the nanites poised for action.

Among the trio of plates, the back plate remained virtually unscathed. However, the two front plates bore the brunt of the damage. One exhibited a chunk about one quarte of the entire surfice missing, while the other bore Deep scratches. I reasoned that the initial plate had sustained deep scratches from some clawed abomination, prompting the plates software to deem it compromised and us hensefwort only material from the secund plate to power up skin tight aulo shield, thus explaining the missing chunk.

With precision, the nanites congregated at the edge of the crevice in the second plate, swiftly assimilating iron from my pouch. Three kilograms of iron dwindled slight more then half at 1750 grams, as the nanites welded the iron dust into the crevice, I could the the iron taking shape from the interios of the cravice to the outer edges, restoring structural integrity. Though the edges of the plate material seemed tin rugged compared to the original plate edge. I was searching for functional not perfect and this sure was function.


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They're both bad, sorry anon. I think you've been reading too much genre fiction and now your writing is tedious genre fiction. The chat GPT merely adds a new clunkiness of inappropriate verbosity, as in the word selection no longer matches the literary purpose and intended effect, and the narrative voice, and the agents and subjects of the sentences, becomes muddled.
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>>23328348
I'd rather kill myself
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Polish this draft paragraph from a story I'm writing:

In the late summer of that year we lived in a house in a village that looked across the river and the plain to the mountains. In the bed of the river there were pebbles and boulders, dry and white in the sun, and the water was clear and swiftly moving and blue in the channels. Troops went by the house and down the road and the dust they raised powdered the leaves of the trees. The trunks of the trees too were dusty and the leaves fell early that year and we saw the troops marching along the road and the dust rising and leaves, stirred by the breeze, falling and the soldiers marching and afterward the road bare and white except for the leaves.

ChatGPT's revised version:

In the waning days of summer, our dwelling nestled within a quaint village, offered vistas that stretched across the river, unveiling a vast expanse of plain leading up to the majestic mountains. The riverbed, strewn with pebbles and boulders, lay exposed under the scorching sun, its waters clear and swift, shimmering with a serene blue hue as it meandered through its channels. Along the road adjacent to our abode, troops trudged with purpose, their footsteps stirring up clouds of dust that settled upon the leaves of the nearby trees. Even the sturdy trunks of these trees bore a dusty veneer, as if touched by the passage of time and the transient nature of human endeavor. That year, the leaves seemed to surrender prematurely to the inevitability of autumn, cascading to the ground in a graceful dance, stirred by the gentle breeze that accompanied the soldiers' march. And as they moved onward, the road behind them lay bare and pristine, a stark contrast against the colorful tapestry of fallen foliage.

I'm not sure that Joan Didion would approve: https://analogue.com/book/a-farewell-to-arms-9et85t/@joandidion
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Same test with Gemini.

Option 1 (Maintains a flowing, descriptive style):

Late summer found us in a village house, gazing across the river and plains towards the distant mountains. The riverbed shimmered, its water a ribbon of blue snaking through bleached pebbles and boulders. Troops marched down the road, kicking up dust that powdered the leaves overhead. Even the tree trunks wore a film of dust. The leaves, restless in the early autumn air, began their descent, swirling down as the soldiers trudged onward. We watched them disappear in a cloud of dust, leaving the road stark white except for the scattered autumn leaves.

Option 2 (Tightens the language for a more concise approach):

Late summer. We lived in a village house overlooking the river and plains, mountains a distant blur. The riverbed, a mosaic of dry, white pebbles and boulders, glinted in the sun. Crystal-clear water rushed through narrow channels. Troops marched, cloaking the road and trees in dust. Even the leaves succumbed, falling prematurely. We watched them go: soldiers, dust, leaves – a scene etched in memory. The road lay bare and white, littered only with fallen leaves.

Changes Made:

Sentence variety: Replaced some repetitive sentence structures.
Removed redundancy: Combined "dry and white" and "swiftly moving and blue."
Figurative language: Added similes ("ribbon of blue," "film of dust") to enhance imagery.

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https://www.elysian.press/p/no-one-buys-books

The U.S. publishing industry is driven by celebrity authors and repeat bestsellers, according to testimony from a blocked merger between Penguin Random House and Simon & Schuster. Only 50 authors sell over 500,000 copies annually, with 96% of books selling under 1,000 copies. Publishing houses spend most of their advance money on celebrity books, which along with backlist titles like The Bible, account for the bulk of their revenue and fund less commercially successful books.
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>>23324435
You are probably correct about the books being purchased as advertising. During the anti-Scientology protests back in 2008 an Anon that worked at a New York bookstore reported that the Scientologists would come in and buy the copies of Dianetics off the shelf. The bookstore would reorder them and they would be delivered with the bookstores price tag still on them.
This allowed the Scientologists to keep promoting the book as a New York Times Best Seller with X million copies sold. I suspect the main market of that promotion was internal to the organisation, propaganda to keep the masses believing. Just as Mao's Little Red Book, Gaddafi's Green Book were for internal consumption.
Political hagiographies aren't to convince the other side or the undecideds in politics, Western societies are too fractured for that. They are to bolster the loyalty of the decided to the party with "Did you read...blah, blah, blah" discussions and ensure they go out and vote.
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>>23324886
Back in the '80s my high school had an original 1st reissue Magna Carta in the foyer in an old perspex case. None of the students knew about it, if they did they didn't care.
Original documents about liberty don't mean much when the population has been subverted and dumbed down.
Distributing The International Jew and the Protocols would be priceless, people have to be aware of whats happening now before they will start looking back for what was lost.
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>>23325104
Write what people want to read. I recall an author boasting of making 2k USD writing incest smut for Amazon before they banned it. There are authors making a good living off of Patreon writing weekly installments of smut, isekai, do-over, romance, etc. Some established authors make a good living off of Patreon just using it as a pay walled blog and their rabid fans pay so they can read. Wen Spencer was pulling in 5k a month and wrote nothing but vignettes and rambling blog posts for a number of years.
Journalist / researcher types post on Substack and paywall some articles.
Publishing was very heavily gate kept before the internet. I'm confident that zero /lit/ writers would have had a chance to be mass market published under the old system. I wrote occasional letters to the editor of newspapers. They would never publish anything that went against their narrative unless it appeared unhinged, thus reinforcing their narrative. They freely edited the letters they did publish. Now imagine the difficulties involved in getting a book through the gate keepers. There were also international publishing 'conventions' allowing gate keeping between nations. Some books were not freely published in all 'free world' nations.
Now they can be. Authors may not make a living out of it, but they have a chance to be read.
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>>23325443
Christ. Thirteen years ago.
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>>23327034
The Net Zero plan for the British govt calls for the end of paper production by the 2030s due to the energy consumption involved. This came out at the same time as the 'no white male authors' BS. The publishing industry is being deliberately imploded.
Internal combustion engines are to be phased out with no new aircraft after 2035. Look at how Boeing's management continually work to implode the company. They are fulfilling the aims of their ultimate paymasters.

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Trevor was six foot three. He was clean and fit and confident. I’d choose him a million times over the hipster nerds I’d see around town and at the gallery. In college, the art history department had been rife with that specific brand of young male. An “alternative” to the mainstream frat boys and premed straight and narrow guys, these scholarly, charmless, intellectual brats dominated the more creative departments. As an art history major, I couldn’t escape them. “Dudes” reading Nietzsche on the subway, reading Proust, reading David Foster Wallace, jotting down their brilliant thoughts into a black Moleskine pocket notebook. Beer bellies and skinny legs, zip-up hoodies, navy blue peacoats or army green parkas, New Balance sneakers, knit hats, canvas tote bags, small hands, hairy knuckles, maybe a deer head tattooed across a flabby bicep. They rolled their own cigarettes, didn’t brush their teeth enough, spent a hundred dollars a week on coffee. They would come into Ducat, the gallery I ended up working at, with their younger—usually Asian—girlfriends. “An Asian girlfriend means the guy has a small dick,” Reva once said. I’d hear them talk shit about the art. They lamented the success of others. They thought that they wanted to be adored, to be influential, celebrated for their genius, that they deserved to be worshipped. But they could barely look at themselves in the mirror. They were all on Klonopin, was my guess. They lived mostly in Brooklyn, another reaoson I was glad to live on the Upper East Side. Nobody up there listened to the Moldy Peaches. Nobody up there gave a shit about “irony” or Dogme 95 or Klaus Kinski.
“The worst was that those guys tried to pass off their insecurity as “sensitivity,” and it worked. They would be the ones running museums and magazines, and they’d only hire me if they thought I might fuck them. But when I’d been at parties with them, or out at bars, they’d ignored me. They were so self-serious and distracted by their conversation with their look-alike companions that you’d think they were wrestling with a decision of such high stakes, the world might explode. They wouldn’t be distracted by “pussy,” they would have me believe. The truth was probably that they were just afraid of vaginas, afraid that they’d fail to understand one as pretty and pink as mine, and they were ashamed of their own sensual inadequacies, afraid of their own dicks, afraid of themselves. So they focused on “abstract ideas” and developed drinking problems to blot out the self-loathing they preferred to call “existential ennui.”"
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>>23328582
probably because all the literary types congregate in that part of New York City and they're all basically the extras from American Psycho
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>>23328604
>Then how about you go discuss that obscure media
what board do you think we’re on right now moron
>or go hold that person in your arms
you have me beat there, it’s been a week since we last got together, she went back to her home an ocean away
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Otessa was five foot five. She was frumpy but fit and confident. I’d probably pass and consider the loose tarts I’ve seen around town and the gallery. In college the literature department had been plastered with this specific genre of young woman.

An ‘alternative’ to the mainstream sorority girl and premed note taking type. These ‘smart’, graceless, intellecutal brats that found their way into the art and literature departments.
As an art history major I couldn’t escape them. ‘Ladies’ reading Virginia Wolfe, Brontë, Sylvia Plath, jotting down meterless confessional poetry in leather bound notebooks. Ill fitting clothes, poorly applied make up that was chosen more to express her personality than hiding flaws and flattering natural beauty. Clothes that hugged the hips wrong and draped off the breast lazily. Hair that was unkempt and lazy. They didn’t shower enough, thought deodorant was unnatural, shaving was anti-feminist, tattoos of ‘deep’ lyrics form a cute emo band of their youth. They spent hundreds on Starbucks, smoked marijuana and drank, and misunderstood the double digit body count they had accrued with being at the top of the female social hierarchy. They’d come in to the Chad, the art gallery I worked at, with their newest tinder date, ‘those girls usually have fishy smells, it’s the trichemonas’ my friend would say. I’d hear her talk shit about art, she thought hers was better, typical. They lamented the success of others and knew they were destined for fame, influence, and feminist heroism. Prozac, SSRis, Wellbutrin, that’s before you consider the other drugs and alcohol they were medicating their low self esteem with. Loved on the upper east side, and listened to the 1975 and MGK. Most of them tried to pass off their insecurity as feminism. They’d be the ones sleeping with the men running museums and show rooms to get a job and then act as if they earned it via merit. Of course when you see them at bars or parties and you have no job to offer or wealth they don’t pay much attention. They were so distracted by their no where conversations with their overweight posse of frumpy single 30 year olds they probably believed the latest out rage was a matter of life and death. They wouldn’t be distracted by settling down and having kids and a cat in the yard. The truth is they had something to prove and it all stemmed from being ugly and ill equipped to compete with the typical aesthetically minded females that had already been claimed with an engagement ring. They were so focused on chasing money and corporate prestige they forgot that nobody is working for someone else for sake of working. It’s all vanity, baby. Anyway, I married a blonde and don’t give a shit about ugly girls or their thoughts, nobody really does, so I forgot she existed and nobody ever wrote something like this before. Most people don’t waste energy hating boring mundane slutty women.
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>>23327562
Wonder what he thinks about her critical and financial success
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>>23326020

Typical women, goes on a long rant how she doesn’t want a certain type of guy and by the end it’s clear she 1000 percent does in fact want that type of guy.

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This essay was published back in 1974. It argued that certain movements and currents within modern Christianity were Mormon-ifying it. It was written by a Mormon who viewed these as positive changes. I’m interested in your thoughts, given that a lot of you are interested in theology (especially old theology), ecclesiastical history, and things of that nature.
https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1689&context=byusq
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>>23327873
As I tried to explain, by translation he did not mean actually decoding linguistic symbols and putting this meaning into English. He meant the process of revelation as it pertained to reproducing spiritual texts (as opposed to novel revelations as found in the Doctrine and Covenants). The golden plates and the scrolls served as aids to the revelation process. The record is clear that he wasn't looking directly at the plates while translation was taking place--that is to say, that this was never a secret or something he tried to hide.

Receiving revelation is a highly complex process that requires incredible faith, it is quite understandable that have an intermediary (I'm not satisfied with this term) would be helpful. At least I don't see any good reason to believe that the use of intermediaries should be evidence of invalidity. Among the arguments against Joseph Smith, this is one of the weaker ones.

You can believe what you want to, but a point I want to make that there is no evidence of subterfuge on the part of Smith. The strongest alternative explanation besides that Smith was a genuine Prophet, was that he was a mentally ill poet in the romantic tradition. The evidence for his ultimate sincerity, as well as the goodness of his heart, is very strong

The idea that Mormonism is "demonic" is a meaningless superstition inspired by fear and the pleasures of bigotry

https://charltonteaching.blogspot.com/2015/08/evaluating-mormon-church-185-years-on.html
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>>23325909
Priest are allowed to be married, however the majority of those in the Latin Rite choose the oath of celibacy. Byzantine Catholics however, do get married a lot as they don't have the same traditions of celibacy like those in the other Rite.
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> the catholic Church never changed
Remember when you couldn't worship Amazonian demon idols in the Vatican? How about all those centuries where the pope claimed political jurisdiction over the entire universe based on now admitted forgeries (donation of constantine)?
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> byzantine Catholics
The ones who still hold to the essence/energies distinction (a Catholic heresy for centuries) and still venerate post-schism, anti Rome Orthodox saints like St. Gregory Palamas?

Or are you thinking of the Syrio-Malabar Catholics, who are in communion with you despite venerating Mar Nestorius as a Saint?

Contradicting yourselves openly for purely political purposes (getting the most people to kneel to Rome as possible, theology be damned) can't be hand-waved as "having options".

> t. Ortho
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>>23328439
>>23328642

But to triangulate against the Mormon here and not just stab Catholicism, at least the Catholics have a claim to apostolic succession. Mormons are just Islam 2

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woman conquered fantasy
what genre is next?
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>>23328044
The genre is called your mom
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>>23328044
Women conquered Literature. Men collectively decided to stop reading now all books are written by and for women.
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>>23328132
Do reddit meshi fans have a humiliation fetish or are they genuinely deluded into thinking their favourite banal JRPG ripoff qualifies as literature?
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>>23328423
it's called feminism
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>>23328044
They didn't conquer it. They moved in after it was tamed and settled, then they ruined it. Tale as old as time

I don't get it
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>>23327859
>For if a person were to select the night in which his sleep was undisturbed even by dreams, and were to compare with this the other days and nights of his life, and then were to tell us how many days and nights he had passed in the course of his life better and more pleasantly than this one, I think that any man, I will not say a private man, but even the great king, will not find many such days or nights, when compared with the others. Now if death is like this, I say that to die is gain; for eternity is then only a single night.
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>>23327859
I'm sorry.
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>>23328573
Except he could only know it was pleasant after he woke up...
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>>23328598
>What would not a man give if he might converse with Orpheus and Musaeus and Hesiod and Homer? Nay, if this be true, let me die again and again. I, too, shall have a wonderful interest in a place where I can converse with Palamedes, and Ajax the son of Telamon, and other heroes of old, who have suffered death through an unjust judgment; and there will be no small pleasure, as I think, in comparing my own sufferings with theirs. Above all, I shall be able to continue my search into true and false knowledge; as in this world, so also in that; I shall find out who is wise, and who pretends to be wise, and is not. What would not a man give, O judges, to be able to examine the leader of the great Trojan expedition; or Odysseus or Sisyphus, or numberless others, men and women too! What infinite delight would there be in conversing with them and asking them questions! For in that world they do not put a man to death for this; certainly not. For besides being happier in that world than in this, they will be immortal, if what is said is true.
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>>23328386
it comes from Greek, it really means the defense of Socrates

Prove to me this isn't propaganda by whomever wrote it but the Truth.
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It's real just trust me
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>>23328758
it's a math textbook, shit-for-brains
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>>23328765
Has a lot of numbers in it...

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Looking for novels about discovering esoteric knowledge - doesn't have to be occult. Picrel's source book is nothing like the movie but it's along the lines of what I'd enjoy. Just someone who is devoted to seeking knowledge no matter the danger and/or cost.
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>>23328327
the da vinci code
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>>23328383
Well, maybe not V. since that is only half the book and its purpose is not really in line with what you are after. GR is the most on point to your needs but AtD has the occult angle and explores the whole search/discovery thing in many different ways from the simple pragmatic familial revenge to solving the universe.
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>>23328327
Any graduate level maths textbook
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M.R. James uses the trope quite often. Lovecraft too occasionally
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>>23328383
Thanks
>>23328391
Yes, but already read it. ty
>>23328395
Grim

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/lit/ has produced multiple collaborative projects and periodicals over the years. Many of these projects are now defunct, and the few that are still active seem to have uncertain trajectories. There are also solo writers who frequent /lit/ and—for better or for worse—their namefagging and shilling has impacted the culture of this board.

This thread is for the discussion of the history of /lit/ writing and the future of /lit/. To those that have been involved in previous /lit/ collaborative projects, such as The Lit Quarterly, Pinecone, The April Review, miniMAG and &amp: what were your experiences like? Does the drama and infighting surrounding so many of these /lit/ collaborative projects inevitably result in their dissolution? Do you think that /lit/ has anything valuable to offer for aspiring writers, in terms of critique or support?

Additionally: Are there any new projects in the works? What do you think is next for the so-called /lit/ renaissance? And now that a /lit/ author has finally gotten a mainstream book deal with a major publishing house, do you think that more of our authors are likely to see similar success?

Mega archive of /lit/ periodicals:
mega.nz/folder/2gsHSSbA#Sl46P4LljGlk9mnpAf3Mlw
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>>23326977
fuck jannies
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>>23326977
This shit again?
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bump
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>>23326977
Jannies suck my cock!
Australia will dominate the world!
Behead those who insult Australia!
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>>23326977
/lit/ is dead

What are books that defend atheistic, physicalist teleology?
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>>23327563
We're comparing a very brief, unspecified period of history with all of human history. So I don't buy the claim that social change has slowed down.
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>>23327563
I agree with your post, and I think this is what Hobbes also understood. I just don't understand this passage:
>If there is a divinity, if people believe there is even a fleck of divine essence in man, then we get stuff like "human rights" and "emancipation"
Isn't it the opposite? People should be reduced to a common right that is granted by constitutional rights, say, instead of natural or theological principles.
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>People should be reduced to a common right that is granted by constitutional rights, say, instead of natural or theological principles.
I suppose this is possible in theory but if you look at the people who actually advocate for "human rights" and "emancipation" aren't doing so on the belief of universal egalitarianism but on the explicit belief in classes of man and the need to dissolve the evil classes based on the will of divinity, or something approximating it. Going back to the Jewish antinomians that lead to Yeshua, this has always been the case: "Yahweh said that the law has been fulfilled ergo you don't have to do rituals anymore" is fundamentally the same thing as "the US Constitution says that all men are created equal ergo Ireland gets infinity Somalis". It's the dissolution of distinction.

Such a thing only makes any sense to do if you aren't some hardcore materialist rationalist, wherein the entire idea of dissolving distinctions is absurd. They exist, and that's a fact, wanting to dissolve them to attain some theoretical eschatological state of purity is absurd (how can they be dissolved if they exist?). It is only when one is animated by something higher than mere "atoms bumping around" that they can take the fundamentally (im)moral act of declaring that distinctions must be dissolved. The Jewish antinomians, the Christians, the Communists, the SJWs, whatever group you choose, it's all the same, and they all act the same because they're fundamentally doing the same thing.

Like, come the fuck on just look at the people you're talking about. The people who talk about how trannies "lack rights" aren't saying it because they actually believe that men who cut their cocks off lack some kind of legal technicality owed to them, they say it because it's an attack on White people. That's not just "muh atoms say i can be a douchebag because there's no afterlife" or whatever, it's a conscious attack on the principle of nobility.
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>>23327318
"A Beginner's Guide To Pegging".
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>>23327318
>the ruling bloodlines
Is exiled on a remote mythical island. Evolution is real and so is magic. Gorilla leaders physically change when they adopt their roles, like kings do.

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>Tolstoy: Chronically depressed, became a religious thinker after being suicidal for years. Ran away from his wife and family aged 82.
>Proust: Asthmatic, germophobic loner mama’s boy faggot
>Dickens: Bipolar insomniac. Said his characters introduced themselves to him in his sleep. Became obsessed with an 18 year old girl and left his wife, tried to have her institutionalized
>Dostoevsky: Epileptic, borderline personality disorder, gambling addiction, submissive foot fetishist accused of liking little girls
>Flaubert: Pessimistic asshole, hated everyone and everything, FRANKED a young Turkroach boy
>Kafka: Neurotic kike, self-loathing, porn addict and frequenter of brothels, engaged to many women but never married
>Chaucer: Aggressive cunt, charged with beating a friar in London, and with rape in 1380
>Boccaccio: Failed at fucking – turned full-blown woman-hater
>Li Bai: Drunken chink who drowned to death trying to grab the moon’s reflection in the water from his boat
>François Villon: Murdered a priest, assaulted others, was a burglar who ended up banished like the faggot he was
>Montaigne: Hid in a tower for 10 years
>Torquato Tasso: Persecution mania, went insane, committed to asylum for 7 years
>Jonathan Swift: Gloomy bastard, misanthrope, said he only laughed twice in his entire life, didn’t speak to anyone for a whole year, went mad in 1742.
>Voltaire: Chronically constipated, drank 50 cups of tea a day, spent 16 hours a day in bed writing
>Samuel Johnson: Monstrously cantankerous fucker, Tourette syndrome, rude manners

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>>23322009
Ahh I see you've been expanding your list since. Bravo.
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>Anais Nin: seduced and fucked her father, somehow had the confidence to publish her diaries about it
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>>23322009
>Ryūnosuke Akutagawa: Chronically depressed, suicidal, bouts of migraine, had hemorrhoids
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>>23324539
LETS GOOOooo Shakey!
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>>23324539
read Venus and Adonis
literal super horny mommy and shota porn. But admittedly the subtext is about how homosexuality will kill you

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>Start reading Illiad again
>Reach the Catalogue of Ships
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>>23327863
I thought it was quite comfy. It's the endless battle scenes bore me.
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Read Pope, he makes it beautiful.
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>>23327863
Its a fucking catalogue what do you expect? Just skip it
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>>23327863
It’s like five pages.

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Anybody here read it yet?
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I can't read any of these philosophical books, meditations, treatises, etc. They're dry, obtuse, and I don't see how anyone isn't bored to tears by them. Does anyone actually enjoy reading this stuff, or is it like exercise where you willingly subject yourself to discomfort to get stronger?
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>>23328550
no pain no gain
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>>23328543
yeah , I didn't read the end though. dude was getting on my nerves, I quit after he already critiqued reason. don't know why he needed 200 more pages.
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Yes, but not the second or third critique.
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>>23328543
I read it from a schopenhauerian lens first, and am currently re-reading Schopenhauer from a kantian lense. Their honesty as philosophers is in the clarity of their thoughts.


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