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Now that pewdiepie has ruined alfsvoids esotericism, what are some other /lit/ approved niche YouTubers?
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>>12220885
Oh? What's your account name?
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>>12220885
>in every video i wear a different hat
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MODPO is good for poetry
https://www.youtube.com/modpopennvideo

https://www.youtube.com/KellyWritersHouse/videos

https://www.youtube.com/pennsound

NYWI

https://www.youtube.com/user/NYSWritersInstitute/videos

Harvard

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2SOU6wwxB0svqW_rAe7BwF9PZxhkFw-T


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>>12220994
>Nerdwriter1
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>>12220994
Fuck yes, thank you bro.

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>>12221172
Its time to stop

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Can someone suggest some novels that show the emptiness in hedonism? Preferably more obscure works because otherwise i'd just google.
Thanks
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>>12221125
The Great Gatsby
The Picture of Dorian Gray
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>Hedonism
>Empty

Have you ever had sex?
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>>12221310
This is patently ridiculous. First of all, literature helps anyone, regardless of their material or ideological predilections, to better understand the arguments for and against any position. Even your imagined example of someone who has achieved the peak of hedonistic bliss but has nevertheless found it soulless could certainly better understand the nature of his amorphous sense of its insufficiencies by reading Plato, or Kierkegaard, or whomever.

If the average person’s life experiences were rich, complex and nuanced enough, and if the average person could understand every nook and cranny of these experiences, down to their deepest roots, we would have little need for literature and philosophy, and would not hold great thinkers and artists in such high regard. They have gone to the extremes we cannot, extremes in the world and in themselves, bringing with them into those abysses intellectual and spiritual tools with which the average person is not equipped, and they have come back from such subterranean depths to articulate the strange sights they saw, the profound wisdom they gathered, the new categories they derived, with an incisiveness, eloquence and grace to which it would be foolish for the Everyman to even pretend to aspire. A genius who dedicated his life to the question of hedonism, tracing out carefully all its merits and demerits, will have a much greater understanding of it than some rich douchebag who never thought twice about the deeper meaning of his lifestyle, or some rich douchebag who did think twice about it, and gave his fortune away to charity.

Not every question deserves a reductive pseudo-Nietzschean answer about resentment and power dynamics.
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>>12221310
You're shouting the wrong advice at the wrong person. You couldn't be more off base. I'm a man looking at another man who's locked in a prison and I want to know what he thinks. Chill
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>>12221368
very well put

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In a barbarous and foreign land, where the sky was extremely dark but things were shine as if they were on the open day, in such weird land, our heroine woke up without memories of that day or how she arrived there. She saw a really old and big oak there next to her, some vines that entangled it graciously, some dark greenish but dull bushes that surrounded them and danced all around. She then felt a pebble in her shoe, one of the ancestral pebbles and marbles that filled the ground there. She saw some stones, smoothed and limed around, and she wondered if there were some centuries ago some fortress there. Butterflies fluttered around her, making she feel it was a dream, but where is that place, she kept asking herself. The smell of wet dirt and rotten folliage made her felt a bit of hunger. It was a warm and perfect day. Everything was silent except for some cicadas that were screaming quietly.
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>>12219901
I'm also ESL, so take my opinions with a grain of salt. Also on mobile so shit formatting

>In a barbarous and foreign land, where the sky was extremely dark but things were shining as if they were on the open day,
Why does this happen? It's super confusing to have this image right away without further sensory description. Is it night? It there even a night?
>in such weird land,
This adds nothing, either cut or finish the description and add a full stop.
>our heroine woke up without memories of that day or how she arrived there.
Our heroine has a fairytale feel. Is that your intention?
>She saw a really old and big oak there next to her, some vines that entangled it graciously, some dark greenish but dull bushes that surrounded them and danced all around. She then felt a pebble in her shoe, one of the ancestral pebbles and marbles that filled the ground there.
Don't repeat "some" so much. In fact you could omit it.
>She saw some stones, smoothed and limed around, and she wondered if there were some centuries ago some fortress there.
Can't find a term for "limed around". You should point out these stones are larger, or people are going to imagine pebbles like the one in her shoe.
Again "some" fortress
"And she wondered if those could've been the remains of a fortress", something like that

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>>12220626
This. Sorry OP, your grammar just needs work. Your first sentence is unreadable English. Once you get up to speed on the language you might be alright.
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>>12219901
If you really are ESL, this isn't bad. Your grammar definitely needs some work, but you are conveying your idea pretty well. I enjoyed your post.
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>>12219901
Avoid words that end in -ly
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>>12221358
oh fuck, my novel is about a family, how screwed am i?!

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What comes after Nietzche created nihilism and postmodernism?
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>>12220882
nietzsche did not create nihilism that was the rational/socratic man and christcucks.
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>>12220882
psychosis
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>>12220882
reddit
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>>12220882
That is some real entry level tier knowledge of Nietzsche
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Friendly reminder that Nietzsche would burn his own books if he were still alive today.

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what is the quality of pic related edition like? i'm about to buy it, just want to make sure i'm not getting fucking memed
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>>12220367
Spotted the Marxist comie undergrad pseud!
It's like you walked into that on your own volition you fucking ungrateful tard
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>>12220364
>Plato believed
are you even trying ffs
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>>12220384
>are you even trying ffs
Not an argument.
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>>12220406
If you sincerely believe that rhetoric doesn't belong in an argument then why are you on 4chan?
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>>12221020
>If you sincerely believe that rhetoric doesn't belong in an argument then why are you on 4chan?
That's not an argument I'm afraid.

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Should prospective authors avoid academia?
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>>12220325
most well socialized guys fail shit tests miserably if the definition i found online of shit test means anything. It seems like the guys who are good at passing shit tests would be aggressive or uncaring men
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>>12219597
tfw no thicc classicist gf
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>>12219597
>venmo in bio
>gofundme stickied
Niggers always looking for a handout.
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>>12219794
I just want to fuck her really hard from behind.
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>>12219293
By not getting a bachelor's degree, one in America these days is putting themselves at a disadvantage, when it comes to wanting to seek a job apart from writing books, self-employed publishing.

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Why does every fucking author become slow as fuck after the second or third book?
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I want to know when it became cool to be a lazy fuck that takes forever to write. Ffs, Brandon Sanderson cranks out books like a welfare queen shits babies, but GRRM and PR can’t put out one book every five years?
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The name of the wind is trash, it reads as if the author has never left his flyover home or read about other cultures
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>>12220430
GRRM and PR keep rewriting that's why. I bet there's like 10 versions of TWOW written and thrown out.
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>>12220315
ITT we post the worst of the series. These books are shite.
“I hate them!” Ell spat, surprising me with her sudden rage. “I hate men!” Her knuckles were white as she gripped Greytail’s reins. Her face twisted into a mask of anger. Krin put her arms around Ell, but when she looked at me I saw the sentiment reflected quietly in her dark eyes.

“You have every right to hate them,” I said, feeling more anger and helplessness than ever before in my life. “But I’m a man too. Not all of us are like that.”
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>>12220430
When they're the quality of Sanderson's books that's nothing to be proud of.

Unfortunately for Rothfuss, he isn't any better and STILL takes years.

Arguments against stoicism?

Someone like a month ago said something about how language inherently contradicts it, can't find it in the archives.
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I'd love to fuck dumb thotties
I should have been a rapper
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>>12220262
based
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>>12221126
presumably he argues at length in the book, it's a short quote
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>>12221188
I don’t give a fuck, I shouldn’t have to read someone’s arguements if they clearly fly in the face of scientific consensus, which believing in a god or gods obviously does.
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>>12220135
See Rene Girard on mimetic desire, for an implied/potential critique based on the deep foundations of man being contrary to a purely Stoic/sole existence.

Alternatively, Hegel's emphasis on dialectic again potentially contradicts the image of an isolated man, one who exists meta-socially.

Or Freud in Civilisation and Its Discontents, perhaps Stoicism isn't possible in a repressive civilised society? A stoic would need to overcome neurosis, which is in itself a fragment of the social external, but how ingrained is neurosis?

And, see writers like Dostoevsky for an alternate [cuck] image of Stoicism as in Prince Myshkin in The Idiot

What should I read/ to better understand female brain, female behavior/psychology/sexuality
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The Idiot - Fyodor Dostoevsky. Pay close attention to Nastasya Phillipovna.
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>>12220048
lol the first negative review starts with "haven't read it, won't read it" 1 star
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>>12219663
Good post
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>>12220048
lol it really did
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>tfw reading about women make me disappointed with them even more
How do I get rid of this feel?

Does /lit/ listen to music when reading?

I listen to pic related
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>>12216217
Lift your skinny fists is babby's first postrock. It's so much simpler than their first album and doesn't have the same payoffs.
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>>12217714
I pay too much attention to Tortoise to read while listening to them.
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>>12213019
I listen to music when I do almost anything else besides reading when possible (working out, surfing the interwebz, going somewhere, studying etc...)
For whatever reason I have an extremely difficult time reading while there's music on, even if it's chill ambient music without lyrics.
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I listen to a lot of Lowercase and Microtonal work when I read, because it's not distracting but still relaxing to have on in the background
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl3Jbg4qzFo&list=PLqHvFVggaouZx2ps6jX20LGzNYw2IRa4s&index=5&t=0s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrJDdt5OS_Y
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>>12213656

Seconding this

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1. Who is the Odysseus of our time?
2. What is the Odyssey of our time?
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>>12221076
People will fall for this bait. Even after this post pointing out to them that it is bait, they will still reply earnestly.
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>>12221076
Surely you know that I, a white man, could never understand what it means to be a person of color or member of the LGBTQ+ community, no matter how hard I try I will never be ‘with it,’ I could never comprehend their literature

That’s why I’ve decided that I shouldn’t ever attempt to engage with people of color and LGBTQ+ or read their literature

In this same way, you could never understand what it means to be a white male, so I’ll read Homer and you read Toni Morrison and all will be right in the world
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>>12221076
>The Odyssey is problematic and makes literature seem inaccessible to women
Why is this bad? The best of the female species, like Woolf or O'Connery, will find their own way through and that's fine--even beneficial.
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>>12221065

>What is the Odyssey of our time?
An U.S. soldier gets captured by Al-Qaeda, gets tortured and raped for 8 years by an insane, kinky Muslim woman who is a high ranking Al-Qaeda member. Jesus comes down to earth and decides to set him free. Vishnu, Buddha, and the Yellow Emperor get pissed and send him on a series of misadventures throughout the world before he can return home. He returns home to find that his wife became a pornstar, and in the middle of his wife shooting a gangbang scene, he goes on a PTSD induced murder spree.
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>>12221099
A fool and his (yous) are soon parted. And then they have the gall to complain about the quality of the board.

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Tell me your unpopular opinions. Either acclaimed books you can't stand or loathed/underrated books you love.
For me, Don Quixote, repetitive, heavy-handed, and boring piece of shit.
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>>12216665
Simplicissimus is the better picaresque novel (and funnier).
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>>12216665
I liked the Game of Thrones books. Even though I know they are Pleb tier but I really enjoyed them
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>>12220284
unironically this desu senpai
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>>12219024
Just started part 2 and that was really apparent. Seems like less random shit happening and more of a cause/effect to every event. But I think Don Quixote's speeches have been made more long winded, but not in a funny way. It's better than the first half though.
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>>12220290
I like the A Song of Ice and Fire series too. He's not a shit writer at all and mostly ppl here don't like him because of contrived, obsequious pseudocontrarianism.

is there any reason to read the presocratics or can i jump straight to plato? they don't seem that interesting desu.
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yes
yes
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>>12218286
you can, but you get more out of plato/aristotle if you don't
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>>12218286
>they don't seem that interesting desu.
At least read Heraclitus and Parmenides, faggot
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>>12218286
Read Plato and come back to them later if you want.
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Heraclitus, Parmenides, Anaxagoras, and Empedocles all heavily influenced Modern/Contemporary philosophers like Spinoza, Fichte, Hegel, Nietzsche, and Heidegger.
It took me four hours to get through all of the Pre-Socractic fragments, from Anaximander to Democritus. By contrast, it took me a month to read Kant's Critique of Pure Reason.
It's not gonna take too much time, and it will eventually feel worth it because you'll see later philosophers calling back the Pre-Socratics.
Do make sure to take extensive notes on all of them.

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opinions on this guy?

Was Whiteahead right?
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>>12220487
WH would use natural but not non-conscious. My bad
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buuump
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>>12208878

Him and Berkley are honorary non-Anglos.
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"Deleuze and Guattari have developed their notion of ‘Schizoanalysis’ in this book. This approach articulated a new mode of postmodern self organized around concepts of plural and multiple identities and decentred or displaced consciousness. They start from the basis that desire is itself revolutionary and radically subversive. Hence, society has needed to repress and control desire, to ‘territorialize’ it within demarcated areas and delimited structures: ‘To code desire is the business of the socius’ (Anti-Oedipus, p. 139). In this view, the socius or the communal structure within which we live is a repressive system or regime: it organizes social harmony not through enabling collective action to result from rational debate, but by preventing individual and collective desires from being allowed their full potential"

SOURCE: http://abiday.blogspot.com/2014/01/summary-anti-oedipus-capitalism-and_11.html?m=1

Summary: Anti-Oedipus: Capitalism and Schizophrenia By Gilles Deleuze and Felix Guattari writen by: Aiman Aslam

this is Deleuse's critique of post-modernism and neo-liberalism
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>>12221128
*He and Berkeley


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