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If helping means using violence, one should not help. When you become violent, even if it is to help an innocent person, you are on the same level as the first offender. There is only one kind of violence, blind like a bat, it knows not friend from foe. A punch is a punch. If you say: a punch is not a punch - you are mad, you think too much, if you keep thinking, one day you'll say: rape is like a kiss on a baby's cheek. The problems start when you say: sometimes, violence is okay. Already the world becomes a dark place, where the brightest colour is muddy gray. My aura will be like pure white, once I begin what I dream about every night. I cannot change the world, it is hell - but I have some control over myself. I am not evil if I don't do violence ever: the violent person is evil. Don't look at me angrily, I am the people's friend. There has to be someone who will never do violence, who will always accept you, beacuse the world is a bad place once you want thing to be a certain way.
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I think I have finally managed to synthesize my main philosophical influences into a coherent system of metaphysics and ethics. The question is, what should I do about this?
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>>14298773
it's not a complete system if you've still got to ask
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>>14298773
Expose it to the critical minds of others for critique, engage with it in productive debate, and watch your work be smashed to smithereens. Then, use said debasement to refine it. Rinse and repeat.

>>14298796
Precisely
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THIS HORNINESS IS KILLING ME FUCKING STOPPPPPP REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>14299136
i really want to be an asexual

Post shelves
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>>14298409
Hamsun is such a trash author, or at least he is in translation. Very clear he only won the prize because he's Scandinavian, these days you win it for being a black tranny with one leg.
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>>14296896
I just came
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>>14298417
Forgot pic.

>>14298429
I only bought the books for the Camus book really.
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>>14298429
Thats just wrong
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Based Everyman’s collector. Me too. I have about 50 now

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>tfw no pynchon vs DFW epic rap battle
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Write one yourself then, goober.
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>>14299131
Havent read enough of either of them to do it justice.
Well, I suppose wikipedia exists but wheres the fun in that

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Is the Hunger Games trilogy worth reading?
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>>14298757
>I thought /lit/ hated Harry Porter
Perhaps. As I said I've not read it so I'm not going to be prejudiced. The sorting hat is fun though.
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>>14298745
It's less than 1000 pages actually also considering the fonts are big
>Spengler
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>>14298674
Can't fucking believe this is the first trilogy I finished in high school
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Read them in high school, I rember the first one being okay but I was dumb back then. I wouldn't bother.
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>>14299083
Also third one was boring

Your favourite section and why
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I have read up to the part about the murders. It is almost unbearable to read. I've asked on here if I can just skip it, but the consensus is that it's a necessary evil to feel the weight of the whole novel. I've been stuck here for a month and dunno if it's worth it to finish it.
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The part about Fate. Full blown noir and suspicion.
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>>14298666
based trips
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>>14298666
yes thank you. i don't know why everyone on this board hates that section. its enthralling
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I liked them all actually

What are some novels to give to a modern woman that she can actually relate to and enjoy? I do not of course mean some drivel written by a purple haired faggot promoting sexual deviancy and hatred of the opposite sex but rather something written by a woman of real virtue, a treatise on the essence of womanhood. I want to get my girlfriend into literature but I want to give her something with a female protagonist, something she can relate to but at the same time something that promotes traditional values, the redirection of existence to a structured life devoted to divine purpose, etc. We read The Odyssey together and she surprisingly enjoyed it and was fascinated by the portrayal of women and gender roles instead of seeing at as a hyped up work of archaic misogyny.
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>>14298964
Your girlfriends a whore faggot
make her SQUEAL
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>>14298964
I would say middlemarch too.

Another suggestion after that is "The collector" by John Fowles. Half of it is written from the perspective of an psycho incel and half of it is written from the perspective of a female art student. Both perspectives are handled really well. Amazing novel and there's a lot more to it than you first think.
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>>14298964
Post Office
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>>14298964
>modern woman
>traditional values
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Woolf, O'Conner, and Morisson all deal with women in traditional roles and finding higher purpose in them

Is self-insertion always a bad thing?
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>>14298080
No. I mean even ignoring the obvious >>14298089, a second-person story isn't inherently bad. The issue arises when a story with insertion needs to trick people into thinking that this isn't what's happening. If it needs to maintain a lie to maintain the audience, there's likely something disingenuous about the work.

>>14298105
Doesn't "self insert" mean like, leaving room for the audience to self-insert, a-la blank-slate anime protagonist? Going off OP image?
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>>14298080
It’s not if you do it right
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Man is God’s self insert.
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>>14298080
I used to think so, but after reading Kafka's and Dostoyevski's books i figured it can be done gracefully
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No, a lot of medieval lit is self insert since it's the writer's journey and self discovery. If it's not self aggrandizing and Mary Sue, it's generally fine

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>>14296438
>>14297755
still interesting I think. Tolstoy holds decadent artistry to account, and espouses an instrumental view of art. When I read it I was still trying to make sense of the 'anything goes' mentality of modern art, and more so its infusion with SJW nonsense in recent times, so Tolstojs view was kind of eye opener to me.
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>>14296438
yeah
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>>14297755
disagreeing doesn't mean it isn't worth reading
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The historical overview of beauty alone makes it worth reading even if you don't ultimately agree with his conclusions. He has a pretty hilarious takedown of Wagner as well where he exhaustively describes his experience attending one of his operas.

The oversimplified conclusion of the book is that beauty is nonsensical, and that true art must be religious in nature, be understandable by the common man, and it must convey a feeling from the artist. Also he points out that the degeneration of art through recent history is a result of the upper classes no longer believing in God. This is when notions of beauty were introduced and when people realized that was nonsensical, stimulation and novelty in art became paramount.
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>>14297755
He's not really saying that people sucked, it's just that weren't creating art. They were creative and they made things that may have invoked a physiological response in viewers or they might have made something which is very unique but ultimately they were deviating from true art which can be logically defined.

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what are some other light-hearted nihilistic books?
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My diary desu
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under teachers toilet - a scat ebook

on a serious note - if i punch you in the stomach i can get you to renounce your beliefs so shut up
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>>14298442
>under teachers toilet - a scat ebook

post link?
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>>14297027
There is no light-hearted nihilism. The only nihilistic conclusion which remains true to nihilism is suicide.

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Why is gay literature the best minority literature?
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>>14298602
Oscar looked gay af, Yukio is a surprise considering his whole samurai background.
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>>14298640
Basically, he was so poor he couldn't afford basic living or healthcare and died because of it
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>>14298592
cope
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Mann, Proust, Henry James, Wilde. They've really got that early 20th century bit all sewn up
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>>14298672
But tere is definitely a gay literature, a gay culture

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Why is Evola so cringe compared to Guénon?
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>>14297103
The Recognitions is the closest book there is to a "Evola Reader" as it provides a wide survey of his thought.
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>>14295531
that's quite the accomplishment
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>>14295531
Evola levels some decent critiques of Nietzsche but only to arrive at even dumber solutions.
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>>14297134
>The Recognitions
I haven't personally read this one, however, looking over the essay titles in it, it looks like it would be an awkward place to begin. The Metaphysics of War is a pretty good starting place, as it well describes the cyclical view of history, which is central to perennial philosophy.

I believe the best way to begin is
>get a decent understanding of neo-Platonism
>read Meditations on the Peaks
>read The Metaphysics of War
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>>14297769
I haven't read Meditations on the Peaks but The Metaphysics of War is too repetitive and limited in scope to be a good introduction imo.

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My parents were recently asking what I want for Christmas. Does anyone have any good recommendations on books that are introductions to theology and philosophy? I've read a little about both and they intrigue me immensely.

Thanks /lit/
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>>14298988
Your picrel is perfect for what ur looking for. Also some good basics/intros are
>all of Camus’ works
>stoicism (Marcus Meditations)
>Divine Comedy
>Siddhartha
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>>14298988
Try G.K. Chesterton, the titles that spring to mind are:
Orthodoxy
Heretics
The Ball and the Cross
Manalive

He's a very comfy author, BTW, great Christmas reading!
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A Body of Practical Divinity by Thomas Watson
Thoughts For Young Men by J.C. Ryle
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Etienne Gilson for medieval philosophy (and thus christian theology).
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>>14298988
The Bible.

i am a midwit so i could never go too far with philosophy. fortunately i have a good groundwork and know a decent bit about music and math

i will teach him to read from a young age as well as how to read at a higher level.

When he asks me about the existence of god i will tell him i dont know. i will teach him the gods of the old and hand him the books of all the abrahamic religions and that it's up for him to decide.

I will instill in him an early love for music composition and theory. he will be playing lizst by the age of 10.

i will teach him algebra at an early age, since it can actually be understood by kids at a much younger age and schools are just slow.

i will teach him how to think, tell him there are no absolutes in the world and that he should question everything that can be questioned

and of course, i will teach him the overman
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>>14294351
the overtranny
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>>14294345
the dark shading patch above his eye fucked up an otherwise good drawing of nietszches head. On the body the "lou" tattoo is some reddit tier shite, its a real "wink wink only real nietszche fans will get this" Otherwise, I like the drawing of the body.
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>>14294364
>the overwoman
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you´re raising him to be something that it´s not achievable by any human being, don´t do it anon
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>>14294351
since modern women are nymphomaniacs i will teach her to use men as dildos instead of submitting to them

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>>14298467
Say your kid dies for no apparent reason:

a. It was all for nothing and you could as well kill yourself

b. It had to be this way as it was part of your loving and righteous God's mysterious plan

Which attitude feels better and gives you the faith to eventually continue on with your life?
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>>14298467
What do you mean by "concept of religion"?
There are definitions aplenty you can gleam its utility from. Where exactly are you lost?
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>>14298467
How is it that difficult to understand? You and everything else seems to exist, logically there is an explanation for existence, ergo there is an ultimate and necessary explanation which is God, since every other explanation (or non-explanation) is a dead end or contradicts itself.
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>>14298467
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxYbA1pt8LA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIno-PhSQlM
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All moral structures require faith
Regardless of if you partake in organized religion, believing in any form of right/wrong is based on faith in those definitions
The organized part appeals to people seeking community

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really liking this deleuze guy. it's like adorno's negative dialectics but with more anus
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holy shit this thread is retarded.
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>>14296545
>How are they the opposite of eachother?
even i know how and i've never read him
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>>14292905
What did he mean by this
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>>14292853
Idk the way I took deleuze isn't really identity = bad, doesn't he speak of the BwO as a limit?
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>>14297622
Even so. The emphasis on novelty and creativity and difference and the event is diametrically to traditionalism worship of identity and archetype and similarity and the past.


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