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What are all the most influential or important books on morals,societiies and laws.Philosophy books mostly.
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it would be a good idea to read this

you may however become a wizard. something to bear in mind
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>>12647643
Thanks for these posts I'm genuinely interested
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ok that should keep you busy for a bit

this list is completely unhelpful and all over the place and will probably stunt your development massively for having been shitposted in no particular order. sorry about that
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>>12647648
What do you mean stunt my development
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>>12647649
i kid. don't worry. just read what you like you dirty, beautiful motherfucker

Are there any books/essays on why one should not kill themselves? Especially if the one contemplating suicide is a nihilist.
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>>12642810

I know that he wasn’t sacrificed. BUt God asked him too, and then later ordered people not to kill ... and he said nothing about thou shalt not kill people, but thou shalt not kill, which is an impossible request in the first place. Secondly, he required Abraham to kill a lamb.

I’m your cyber-neighbour, and you’re not loving me you absolute hypocrite.
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>>12642817

t. hasn’t read Mimesis by Auerbach
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>>12646756
Some people interpret that commandment as ‘thou shalt not murder’, which makes more sense, as God has killed and ordered to kill and there is such a thing as Talion which requires the peacekeepers to kill
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>>12642371
The Foundation for Exploration by Sean Goonan
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>>12642371
Pretty sure Schopenhauer covered this, or something similar to it anyway.

Does anyone have any really old /lit/ memes? I'm looking for one with some postmodernists and maybe joyce shopped onto rich people laughing and it says "we told them the value and symbolism would trickle down!". I spent an hour trying to find threads from 2013-2015 that might have it in the archive last night with no luck
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>>12621962
I honestly have no idea who this is trying to make fun of.
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>>12622396
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>>12622396
I intentionally design my prose as impenetrable and the stylistic equivalent to getting punched in the dick real bad. Fuck, corn father.
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>>12623346
>is fist fucking
>no longer genitalized?
HOW IS IT FUCKING WITHOUT GENITALS YOU DIPSHIT
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>>12647591
>he fist fucks genitals
>not his furpartners earhole
how quaint

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>All writing is rubbish.People who try to free themselves from what is vague in order to state precisely whatever is going on in their minds are producing rubbish.The whole literary tribe is a pack of rubbish mongers, especially today. All those who have landmarks in their minds, I mean in a certain part of their heads, in well-defined sites in their skulls, all those who are masters of language, all those for whom words have meaning, all those for whom the soul has its heights and thought its currents, those who are the spirits of the times, and who have given names to these currents of thought—I am thinking of their specific tasks, and of that mechanical creaking their minds produce at every gust of wind—are rubbish mongers.

was my homie artaud right?
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>>12647478
t. rubbish monger
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>>12647511
artaud is a chad
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>>12647447
yeah i think so
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>>12647548

that is clearly a woman in the photo, anon.
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>>12647548

His life was far too shitty to be a chad.

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Name a book or a work of literature you've recently finished, and talk about it.

What did you think of it?
What does it make you want to read next?
How does it compare to other similar works you've read?
Was it like you expected?

Others feel free to recommend books.
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I just finished Il Gattopardo.

It's one of the most beautiful and moving books I've read in my life, an impeccable character portrait that is somehow both heart wrenching and restrained.

It makes me want to read more Italian literature and not lose touch with the language.

I'm not a big novel reader, but I'd say it's amongst my favlurite novels, particularly for its length. It packs a lot into few pages.
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>>12646959
Outlaws of the Marsh/Water Margin by Shi Nai'an.
>What did you think of it
I fucking loved it.
>What does it make you want to read next?
Journey to the West
>How does it compare to other similar works you've read?
Classic Chinese novels tend to be hilarious, the other major one I've read being The Scholars. Outlaws of the Marsh is more of an adventure/fantasy story while The Scholars is about, well, Chinese scholars (who are corrupt as hell). And speaking of corruption, both of these novels are also heavy on the political satire. Also, there is a weird thing in classic Chinese novels where each chapter ends with a cliffhanger as well as a direct address to the reader to "read the next chapter if you would know what happens next."
>Was it like you expected?
Outlaws in the Marsh being written in 1370, I wasn't expecting it to be as crass and vulgar as it is. I know there are probably different swear words in Chinese, but the translator had characters saying fuck and shit. But it's not just that, there's sex, brothels, and graphic violence.

One warning for those interested: just like The Iliad has long descriptions of armor, Outlaws of the Marsh sometimes has long descriptions of exactly who is commanding which regiment of the bandit army, and there are 108 fucking chieftains. Some parts of the book (which is something like 1500-2000 pages long) drag, but the best parts are really fucking good.

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Gaddisprosing thread.
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>>12646311
>reading agape before JR
Okay retards
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>>12644161
are you that twitter guy?
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>>12646746
>starting with his best and working your way down the line
Why?
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>>12644161
Excellent

>>12646158
Shit
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start with the recognitions if you aren't a fucking neanderthal

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Is it possible to become a published writer without a college degree?
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No, it’s impossible. You’re fucked. Quit and give up now.

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What are some good books related to memetics?
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>>12643824
yeah it is well worth a read(meme machine). She comes to the conclusion that our concept of self is a meme as well, which I think fits in nicely with what Ray brassier talks about in the first section of Nihil Unbound, the 'folk psychology' concept of humans we have. Well and 'there is no self' is I suppose not an original idea in philosophy, but it's put in a way that's understandable for philosophylets, as long as they can grasp the whole meme concept.
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>>12639151
Mimesis by Erich Auerbach
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>>12645211
ive unironically read this already. good book.

>>12645244
i wonder if dawkins has ever read this stuff

>>12645180
interesting. im inclined to say that the memes are definitely what reifies the self.
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bumperoo

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Okay /lil/, which approach is better for achieving higher quality writing? Imitation of the divine/nature, as Plato and Aristotle said, or the imitation of previous authors, as Dionysus said?
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plato is a moron and was literally wrong about everything so the latter
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>>12647432
both you pleb. If it's not imitation of the divine it's not even art, and if you're not imitating the works that come before you then you're a rootless individual with no artistic language to work with, basically babbling to yourself alone.

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What are the best arguments against Whitehead's process philosophy?
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>>12645421
You can make arguments against process philosophy with nominalism. Don't be pedantic. You're co-creativity with the universe is but a mere construct of your mind.
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>>12645208
This is probably a brainlet answer, but why think of things as processes instead of being? I always felt like Whitehead just took something self-evident and turned it on its head for no reason. We only notice change because we conceptualize things with stable identities.
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there are none
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>>12646179
the occasioning of reality is not a merely mental event.
i am not convinced, sorry.
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>>12646179
>>12647425
whitehead would agree, however, that metaphysics is a 'construction'
and i don't recall nominalism being 'anti-constructivist'

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post literary characters that are literally you
>soares
>marcel
>shinji
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>>12647428
The Übermensch
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>>12647428
i had crush on person who was like shinji (except pudgy tall and muscular) lol he was a faggot but he was hot i wish i oculd have tortured him by tickling his feet more lol hbe had childhod trauma over it lol

>an eunuch
>an universal
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>>12647032
this one actually makes me really mad. no one would ever write "an hospital" why do they think it's ok to do it with historical
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>>12647374
The French and the British, the scourge of my existence.
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>>12647042
>two vowels and a vowel become a vowel
sure thing buddy
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>>12647032
>>12647374
plebs
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>>12647374
an 'istorical
an 'ospital

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Why are so many writers druggies, alcoholics, and suicidals? Are they a minority or is there a pattern here?
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>>12647402
Maybe he realised even death isn't an escape.
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>>12643792
Why did people keep memeing this? Most writers before the 1900s were just rich sissibois who were, at worst, gay, it didn't become a thing until people started fetishizing it.
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>>12647422
>being rich makes you a sissy
Why is this?
t. rich sissy
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>>12643792
Need experience to write.
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>>12644034
If high IQ is correlated with mental illness, maybe it’s not mental illness, it’s people not knowing what to do with their noggins, Jimmy.

ITT: try to translate a poem from a language you do not know.

Here's a little Rimbaud I attempted.
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>>12647372
sorry it should be "dreams of", not "of dreams" mea culpa
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Onion,
luminous flask,
your beauty formed
petal by petal,
crystal scales expanded you
and in the secrecy of the dark earth
your belly grew round with dew.
Under the earth
the miracle
happened
and when your clumsy
green stem appeared,
and your leaves were born
like swords
in the garden,

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>>12647380
lol I was going to say how nice this turned out, then I realized it's Neruda.

Either way, I dashed this off from the Spanish:

Onion,
Luminous dome,
Petal by petal
You form handsomely,
Your eccentricity is encased in crystal
And a secret of the obscure earth
Is circling your rocky ventricles.
But the earth
Is starting to migrate
And when it appears

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Arabic greatest oeuvres?
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>>12646937
Just finished Orientalism recently. Though not technically a work of Arabic literature it really was eye opening regarding the treatment of the "Arab" as such in Western literature and thought.
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>>12641751
The work of Mahmoud Darwish - The Poet of Palestine also a great choice
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>>12646970
>>12641751
Mahmoud darwish is fantastic. May I add the amazing george habbash as well.
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>>12644718
Didn't they write in Arabic ?
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>>12644102
thank you for the recommendations


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