What are all the most influential or important books on morals,societiies and laws.Philosophy books mostly.
it would be a good idea to read thisyou may however become a wizard. something to bear in mind
>>12647643Thanks for these posts I'm genuinely interested
ok that should keep you busy for a bitthis list is completely unhelpful and all over the place and will probably stunt your development massively for having been shitposted in no particular order. sorry about that
>>12647648What do you mean stunt my development
>>12647649i kid. don't worry. just read what you like you dirty, beautiful motherfucker
Are there any books/essays on why one should not kill themselves? Especially if the one contemplating suicide is a nihilist.
>>12642810I know that he wasn’t sacrificed. BUt God asked him too, and then later ordered people not to kill ... and he said nothing about thou shalt not kill people, but thou shalt not kill, which is an impossible request in the first place. Secondly, he required Abraham to kill a lamb. I’m your cyber-neighbour, and you’re not loving me you absolute hypocrite.
>>12642817t. hasn’t read Mimesis by Auerbach
>>12646756Some people interpret that commandment as ‘thou shalt not murder’, which makes more sense, as God has killed and ordered to kill and there is such a thing as Talion which requires the peacekeepers to kill
>>12642371The Foundation for Exploration by Sean Goonan
>>12642371Pretty sure Schopenhauer covered this, or something similar to it anyway.
Does anyone have any really old /lit/ memes? I'm looking for one with some postmodernists and maybe joyce shopped onto rich people laughing and it says "we told them the value and symbolism would trickle down!". I spent an hour trying to find threads from 2013-2015 that might have it in the archive last night with no luck
>>12621962I honestly have no idea who this is trying to make fun of.
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>>12622396I intentionally design my prose as impenetrable and the stylistic equivalent to getting punched in the dick real bad. Fuck, corn father.
>>12623346>is fist fucking>no longer genitalized?HOW IS IT FUCKING WITHOUT GENITALS YOU DIPSHIT
>>12647591>he fist fucks genitals>not his furpartners earholehow quaint
>All writing is rubbish.People who try to free themselves from what is vague in order to state precisely whatever is going on in their minds are producing rubbish.The whole literary tribe is a pack of rubbish mongers, especially today. All those who have landmarks in their minds, I mean in a certain part of their heads, in well-defined sites in their skulls, all those who are masters of language, all those for whom words have meaning, all those for whom the soul has its heights and thought its currents, those who are the spirits of the times, and who have given names to these currents of thought—I am thinking of their specific tasks, and of that mechanical creaking their minds produce at every gust of wind—are rubbish mongers.was my homie artaud right?
>>12647478t. rubbish monger
>>12647511artaud is a chad
>>12647447yeah i think so
>>12647548that is clearly a woman in the photo, anon.
>>12647548His life was far too shitty to be a chad.
Name a book or a work of literature you've recently finished, and talk about it.What did you think of it? What does it make you want to read next?How does it compare to other similar works you've read?Was it like you expected?Others feel free to recommend books.
I just finished Il Gattopardo.It's one of the most beautiful and moving books I've read in my life, an impeccable character portrait that is somehow both heart wrenching and restrained.It makes me want to read more Italian literature and not lose touch with the language.I'm not a big novel reader, but I'd say it's amongst my favlurite novels, particularly for its length. It packs a lot into few pages.
>>12646959Outlaws of the Marsh/Water Margin by Shi Nai'an.>What did you think of itI fucking loved it. >What does it make you want to read next?Journey to the West>How does it compare to other similar works you've read?Classic Chinese novels tend to be hilarious, the other major one I've read being The Scholars. Outlaws of the Marsh is more of an adventure/fantasy story while The Scholars is about, well, Chinese scholars (who are corrupt as hell). And speaking of corruption, both of these novels are also heavy on the political satire. Also, there is a weird thing in classic Chinese novels where each chapter ends with a cliffhanger as well as a direct address to the reader to "read the next chapter if you would know what happens next.">Was it like you expected?Outlaws in the Marsh being written in 1370, I wasn't expecting it to be as crass and vulgar as it is. I know there are probably different swear words in Chinese, but the translator had characters saying fuck and shit. But it's not just that, there's sex, brothels, and graphic violence.One warning for those interested: just like The Iliad has long descriptions of armor, Outlaws of the Marsh sometimes has long descriptions of exactly who is commanding which regiment of the bandit army, and there are 108 fucking chieftains. Some parts of the book (which is something like 1500-2000 pages long) drag, but the best parts are really fucking good.
Gaddisprosing thread.
>>12646235>>12646311>reading agape before JROkay retards
>>12644161are you that twitter guy?
>>12646746>starting with his best and working your way down the lineWhy?
>>12644161Excellent>>12646158Shit
start with the recognitions if you aren't a fucking neanderthal
Is it possible to become a published writer without a college degree?
No, it’s impossible. You’re fucked. Quit and give up now.
What are some good books related to memetics?
>>12643824yeah it is well worth a read(meme machine). She comes to the conclusion that our concept of self is a meme as well, which I think fits in nicely with what Ray brassier talks about in the first section of Nihil Unbound, the 'folk psychology' concept of humans we have. Well and 'there is no self' is I suppose not an original idea in philosophy, but it's put in a way that's understandable for philosophylets, as long as they can grasp the whole meme concept.
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>>12639151Mimesis by Erich Auerbach
>>12645211ive unironically read this already. good book.>>12645244i wonder if dawkins has ever read this stuff>>12645180interesting. im inclined to say that the memes are definitely what reifies the self.
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Okay /lil/, which approach is better for achieving higher quality writing? Imitation of the divine/nature, as Plato and Aristotle said, or the imitation of previous authors, as Dionysus said?
plato is a moron and was literally wrong about everything so the latter
>>12647432both you pleb. If it's not imitation of the divine it's not even art, and if you're not imitating the works that come before you then you're a rootless individual with no artistic language to work with, basically babbling to yourself alone.
What are the best arguments against Whitehead's process philosophy?
>>12645421You can make arguments against process philosophy with nominalism. Don't be pedantic. You're co-creativity with the universe is but a mere construct of your mind.
>>12645208This is probably a brainlet answer, but why think of things as processes instead of being? I always felt like Whitehead just took something self-evident and turned it on its head for no reason. We only notice change because we conceptualize things with stable identities.
there are none
>>12646179the occasioning of reality is not a merely mental event.i am not convinced, sorry.
>>12646179>>12647425whitehead would agree, however, that metaphysics is a 'construction'and i don't recall nominalism being 'anti-constructivist'
post literary characters that are literally you>soares>marcel >shinji
>>12647428The Übermensch
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>>12647428i had crush on person who was like shinji (except pudgy tall and muscular) lol he was a faggot but he was hot i wish i oculd have tortured him by tickling his feet more lol hbe had childhod trauma over it lol
>an eunuch >an universal
>>12647032this one actually makes me really mad. no one would ever write "an hospital" why do they think it's ok to do it with historical
>>12647374The French and the British, the scourge of my existence.
>>12647042>two vowels and a vowel become a vowelsure thing buddy
>>12647032>>12647374plebs
>>12647374an 'istoricalan 'ospital
Why are so many writers druggies, alcoholics, and suicidals? Are they a minority or is there a pattern here?
>>12647402Maybe he realised even death isn't an escape.
>>12643792Why did people keep memeing this? Most writers before the 1900s were just rich sissibois who were, at worst, gay, it didn't become a thing until people started fetishizing it.
>>12647422>being rich makes you a sissyWhy is this?t. rich sissy
>>12643792Need experience to write.
>>12644034If high IQ is correlated with mental illness, maybe it’s not mental illness, it’s people not knowing what to do with their noggins, Jimmy.
ITT: try to translate a poem from a language you do not know.Here's a little Rimbaud I attempted.
>>12647372sorry it should be "dreams of", not "of dreams" mea culpa
Onion,luminous flask,your beauty formedpetal by petal,crystal scales expanded youand in the secrecy of the dark earthyour belly grew round with dew.Under the earththe miraclehappenedand when your clumsygreen stem appeared,and your leaves were bornlike swordsin the garden,Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>12647380lol I was going to say how nice this turned out, then I realized it's Neruda. Either way, I dashed this off from the Spanish:Onion,Luminous dome,Petal by petalYou form handsomely,Your eccentricity is encased in crystal And a secret of the obscure earthIs circling your rocky ventricles.But the earthIs starting to migrateAnd when it appearsComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Arabic greatest oeuvres?
>>12646937Just finished Orientalism recently. Though not technically a work of Arabic literature it really was eye opening regarding the treatment of the "Arab" as such in Western literature and thought.
>>12641751The work of Mahmoud Darwish - The Poet of Palestine also a great choice
>>12646970>>12641751Mahmoud darwish is fantastic. May I add the amazing george habbash as well.
>>12644718Didn't they write in Arabic ?
>>12644102thank you for the recommendations
