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I'm thinking about killing myself, because I am a virgin at age 25, and I got nothing to live for. Like for real, I will never get a woman, and I am too afraid of life and mentally unwell, to ever have a happy life. I am thinking about jumping in front of a train or something. I just want the voices in my head to quiet down. They are telling me every day that I suck, and that the only way to find peace is to end it all. I just want peace and quiet, because being alive is so overwhelmingly horrible. There is nothing in this world worth living for.
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>you should kill yourself, because you're a virgin at age 25, and you have nothing to live for. like for real, you will never get a woman, and you are too afraid of life and mentally unwell, to ever have a happy life. you should jump in front of a train or something.
OP is aimed at the people on /adv/, his wording makes no sense towards himself, it is aimed at you.
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>>30967573
>his wording makes no sense towards himself
Why not?
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>>30968218
Just a hunch.
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>>30967107
>there is no world where I would stop caring about getting laid. It has all the importance to me in the world
bro... you're aware that your libido will keep decreasing nonstop with age, right? how can the most important thing in the world be something that half of the world population is too old to even enjoy? your priorities are not sustainable and are causing you unnecessary suffering. even a gigachad would be miserable if he treated sex like the most important thing in the world to him
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>>30969399
I’m not OP I’m another poster and my libido has been nuked from self medicating and I still dream and think about my fantasy with a white female constantly. I think about it all the time even when I’m sick. I’ve been thinking about it since I was 13.

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Is my attraction to trannies a fetish from porn, latent homosexuality, or just what im attracted to?
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trannies themselves are a result of porn
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>>30967532
Yes
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>>30967532
Its impossible for you to be, as a symptom of evolution, biologically attracted to something that up until recently didnt exist. This is all from programming. Stop pumping garbage into your brain, and you'll have better outcomes.
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>>30967532
I forgot the term, agamp i think is what you are. Look around on the askagp subrebbit. Bad news for you, most of your kind transitions in the end.

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Hi, guys.
My parents got sick recently and they’re kind of old, so I can’t talk to them right now. I really love my parents and depend on them for emotional support, so not being able to talk to them is really hard on me. I was gonna call 899, but hung up after realizing the TTS bot was more interested in virtue signaling than connecting me to a real person.

I had a really bad experience at uni today. (For context I’m about 20. I know, I know, I’m wet behind the ears.) One of my peers really hates me and really fired off on all cylinders during class, but she said it relatively calmly so nobody noticed what she was actually saying. I mentioned I didn’t understand this one thing and she said “Why don’t we, instead of walking in circles and talking about how little we know, actually get the assignment done?” It hurt me a lot, and while I know I shouldn’t let it get to me, I don’t have anyone right now to talk to.

I dunno.
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>>30968719
wise person knows how little they know

try a face to face uni counsellow?
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>>30968719
Faggot
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Hi anon, I am a bit older, but understand what you are feeling about your parents as mine are also old and not in the greatest health.

I don't think there is anything that can shake the feeling completely, but what helped me is viewing the parent's experience as a whole. They brought you into the world and got to see you make it all the way to uni (and hopefully much more). No matter what happens they know their child is on a path to be something and are proud of you which is what matters most.

As for the classmate, she sounds like a bitch, which is not uncommon for young people since they know nothing. I'm sure the experience hurt, but you will make it through. I remember all the stress and shit I went/put myself through when I was in uni and looking back it seems silly now.

Not to get spiritual on you, but we don't know what comes after, we only know this existence. So at the very least work to enjoy what we do know (in safe and healthy ways). You got an entire lifetime of experiences ahead of you so keep your chin up and continue to make your parents proud anon.
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>>30968719
>they’re kind of old, so I can’t talk to them
Why not?
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>>30968719
The parents situation is rough. I've been there. Watching their declining health is awful, but if there's any consolation is that you are not not unique. Most people will eventually watch their parents wither and die. It's just how things are.

Your classmate on the other hand is a bitch. Don't give her the time of day, find someone else who'd be more inclined to help. Stop feeling sorry for yourself and cut her out of your head entirely. If she ever asks for help or tries to bond with you then tell her to fuck off. If she tries to humiliate you then you have every right to be rude to her. No one should accept being walked on like that. You are much better off on your own. Just keep things professional in the classroom and you should get by just fine.

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what is reciprocation? should it the driving force behind my actions?

on one hand, if you do something nice for someone expecting they will do something you want in return, it feels less genuine and right than if you just do it because you feel like doing this nice thing for them

also when you genuinely feel like doing something that you know would upset someone else, it's based if you still do it then just stand the retaliation, and it's cringe if you deny to act out your genuine feelings due to fear of consequences.

this indicates the concept of reciprocation shouldn't be considered, possibly erased altogether, and we should just do to people as we feel we should in the moment, without thinking about potential future reward or punishment for our actions


on the other hand, we also feel unjust when good or bad actions are not reciprocated properly. when someone is really nice but we're a dick to them and when someone is a dick but we treat them nicely it can also feel wrong
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>>30968831
You don't help Person A on the expectation that Person A will then help you. You do it to create an atmosphere and culture of kindness so that someday Person B (who you don't even know yet) will be moved to help you.
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>>30969381
that's still reciprocation, anon
you help in order to be helped later it has a cringe feel to it
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>>30969385
if you don't have a reason to be nice then you are just being compulsively nice which is also cringe

>don't you have your own business to be worried about? why are you so helpful?
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>>30969391
sometimes i feel like doing something nice / making a sacrifice for someone without having the slightest thought about getting something out of it. like the object of my desire is exactly helping this person
that feels genuine
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>>30969394
like when?

How can I create something to last 10 thousand years?
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>>30969064
Lineage is always there tho narratively
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>>30968589
Think of a good joke
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>>30969080
Hm. Maybe aliens or AI won't like humor tho. Never mind.
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>>30968589
You are not prepared...
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Someone already said but having kids technically counts.
Other than that, I would probably start by doing time capsules. Find a strong material that's also good underwater and you can drop it off in a bay/gulf somewhere.

If your goal was to have it presentable to humans for the duration of time I think a large stone sculptures gotta be the way to go. Seems like they have a habit of sticking around

It's a fairly broad question, but how do you manage stress?

If it hasn't actually worked for you I don't want to hear it, the endless parroting of achedemic pseudo-science halts any real progress in our community. Stick to what you know, your own lived experience.
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>>30968742
But I have actual responsibilities that I can't drop, so many responsibilities.
The consequences of taking a back seat would be catastrophic
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>>30967663
What sort of stress we talking about? My go-to:
>sleep
>take a walk or jog til my legs/lungs hurt (a healthier self harm/punishment method for getting myself in such a position)
>no more coffee or caffeine (spikes blood pressure and anxiety)
>make plans for all scenarios and possible outcomes
>eventually accept it’s beyond my control and try to treat myself/give up trying to resolve things or care about it (preserved for chaotic stress instances)
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>>30968771
it is futile to worry about things you can't control, just do the best you can
be realistic with your expectations, you aren't god
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>>30968779
While I can't "control" things that doesn't get me off the hook.
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I can't for the life of me fall asleep without a pill of amitriptyline and chlorpromazine. I've been taking it daily for the past three years and I can feel the toll on my body, my hair started to fall out like crazy and I'm only 21.

I've stopped taking it last night but it was awful. Even 4 hours removed from any screen my heartbeat was through the roof and I couldn't fall asleep for four hours. After which I woke up with less than fours hours of sleep and off to work I went.
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>>30969378
Ok so I cant give you any advice on the drug situation but I can tell you my experience of being without a sleep schedule all my life and how I changed it.

I really desperately needed to change my sleep schedule so I was prepare to put in the effort. Then a doc gave me the answer:

>Two hours before bed you stop any overtly stimulating activity, you brush your teeth and take a shower.
>The final hour before bed you need to let your melatonin build up. NO screens, no artificial lights. Just relax in a chair with the lights out, delay any challenging thoughts to tomorrow. The melatonin will build, your thoughts will quiet down and after the hour is over you will fall asleep right away

my experience anyway. Now have had a tight sleep schedule for 2+ months

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How do you stop being a toxic self-sabotaging bag of shit?

Any time I'm inflicted with a perceived wrong I take great immediate pleasure in using it as an excuse to be a totally abusive piece of shit but then always hate myself later when I've destroyed something over what is almost always nothing
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By actively recognising your flawed behaviours in the moment, and deciding purposefully to do something else instead.
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>>30968802
Don't be a toxic self-sabotaging bag of shit to begin with

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My steam deck is being hacked what should I do?
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Hack it back.

Is there something remotely like going on an epic, magical training arc that requires immense effort from you, and coming back stronger, with all of your life together, and a gf and lots of friends just like in the movies?
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>>30968684
You’ll make friends, come back stronger (I guess by technicality) and with government benefits!
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>>30968633

The hero's journey is a condensed, grandiose version of what you're supposed to do over and over throughout real life.

You're supposed to make mistakes and learn from them. Meet insurmountable odds and overcome them. Improve and humble yourself continuously. Normal people learn these things as children and get practice at it. Stop sitting on your ass waiting for life to begin, it began the moment you became conscious at 2-4 years old. You're just waiting it.
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>>30968728

This. That's why the hero's journey is one of the oldest story arcs and is most relatable by audiences. Everyone experiences the heros journey themselves in daily life.
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There is such a thing, nearly down to the letter, with one difference: there is no guarantee that your efforts will be rewarded. Certainly, the path you take will not be the one you expected. We can only walk that path blindly.
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>>30968633
There is actually I dont remember the exact name, I think like zazen or zen training to reach enlightenment. Ive read books on it. Young western men go to the east to be under the teaching of a enlightened master. Its frustrating but eventualy they reach some kind of enlightenement and it definitely changes their lives forever

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It seems like who you are at your core is largely just genetics and upbringing, and is pretty much set in stone once you're like 12 or younger.
Every single person's personality is explained by their childhood, no one has a childhood that doesn't "make sense" for who they've become. I've never once met or read of someone who's childhood didn't inform most of who they are.
So if your childhood didn't prepare you to be a competing, functional, social person, is there really no hope? I've tried for years and I'm about to give up and just rot at this point
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People change without even willing to constantly throughout their lives. It is why people also contantly drift apart from each other. And skills can always be developed
One thing that doesnt change is temperament, and you just have to learn to go around it in life.
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>pretty much set in stone once you're like 12 or younger.
Lolwut. That's not only completely wrong, it's just plain retarded.
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>>30969019
I want to change, I don't like who I've became. I do want to change. I want to make a new start point in my life since today. How could I start? How could I left behind my past and all the traggic events that turned me into this meaningless human being?
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>>30969051
seriously, doesn't everyone have a point of realizing once they go to college or the real world that their friends from 12 or 13 were only their friends because of a lack of options
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>>30968979
absolutely seep picrel

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Im a male in my late 20s, still live with my parents. had a job for 7 years but currently NEET for a few months, still looking.
I was never great socially and despite being good at school and work, anxiety often gets in the way. the only responses my parents are able to give me are preformulated or things that sound nice on paper, because as boomers this is all they are able to do. my mother tells me that I need to be great at my work and keep my head down and know when to speak, and it'll all be ok - apparently I'm not successful because I don't follow her advice here. The guys i see moving up at work are just either naturally dominant or lackeys that suck up to people, and im not happy forcing myself to do the latter.
i get walked over socially and the same shit happens with my family.
i tried discussing this shit with my mother today, tried telling her that "youre wrong about just keeping your head down, people dont just respect your work, they respect your attitude and social skills and how you deal with them"
guess what? she cuts me off at "youre wrong about" and proceeds to rant about "yeah fine im wrong about everything!"
how do you deal with this kind of behavior?

I've tried talking to them about my issues over years but nothing works. they get agitated to discuss things in detail and claim that im "disturbing their minds". It doesnt matter if im nice, calm, upset, crying, angry, nothing matters. their end goal is to end the conversation, and asking them to sit and think about the stuff im saying seems to agitate them.
At this point ive just come to believe that its who i am and not what im saying that causes this type of reaction.
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>>30967731
again skill issue , especially if you aren't a below 5 8 manlet
If you're a manlet its a little different and a bit fucked I won't lie. But if you are competent, normal guy sized, then you just need to improve your dark triad abilities. Cut off people quietly that don't respect you
be in and out , no nonsense
reward those who reward you etc
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>>30967705
Newsflash, you're gonna be fucked by the coming events one way or another. At least build a debt-free life you enjoy so that your worst-case scenario is dying happy.
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>>30967741
ah so they've settled on you as the punching bag. The only way out of that is with humor the the jabs have to be funny and borderline general commentary then towards any specific person - its very hard to do , my sympathies

But in this case I would just start looking for greener pastures while improving nuanced / harder to master social skills
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>>30967753
yeah and that's scaring the shit out of me too. I wanted to build up a good savings base before the mass layoffs happen but idk if I can now and idk if it'll even matter
>>30967752
you're right I need to work on this, just feels like I recieve a lot of retaliation for doing it.
>>30967760
right it's just at the point where even doing that makes them confused and has then get offended, because they're not used to this behavior from me.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q91hydQRGyM

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Can psychodelics help me learn to cope with reality?
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assuming you don't come from a background of at-risk schizos
they're a great tool for dealing with and processing thoughts
aside from the "woah cool patterns" and shit it puts you in a state of mind where your thoughts are laid out in front of you and you're kind of forced to deal with them
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>>30968678
Well put, except, for real man, see >>30967162
>>30967221

It is irresponsible and dangerous to tell curious people the benefits without the risks. They really can destroy lives.
Some people really cant handle facing their demons.
You shoulda seen my ex. She kinds hsd it coming desu, massive cunt, but, boy did she know after an lsd trip. She never really recovered.
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>>30967022
#homegrow, don't get #dispensed
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>>30968711
Thats true
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>>30967022
I typed this too many times. Its too weird how there is nothing but praise, and mostly from official sources too. Then you dive down into user experiences and a certain percentage of them have had their lives completely ruined, or all kinsd of disorders unlocked by psychedelics..s ome cool drug that is! lol

its like the alien thing.
>Ive always believed aliens are real because the government says they dont exist...
>Now the government says aliens exist I firmly believe they are not real

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A year or two ago I was done completely with a lifestyle of hiding away indoor, sitting on the internet and playing computer games. I felt a certain power coming up that I could rely on for a long time. This power drove me outside to experience all kinds of things and find new hobbies. At some point a dramatic shift came on from having an outdoor focus to an indoor focus again. A retreat into the known, into safety or whatever. I stopped doing my hobbies. Now everyday is fight against my brains that are determined to stay inside and to try all it can to convince me that outside is no good. Wat.. do? Frankly its killing me

Chronically suicidal. Don't really have a healthy relationship with life. When do I need to tell people that I'm suicidal for self preservation? The people in my life are busy so I don't want to inconvenience them, but my death would also inconvenience them. Should I tell someone that I'm suicidal around the time I'm planning my suicide or just if I'm currently committing suicide? I genuinely don't know what people who want to live think is a critical situation. I'm usually of the opinion that I don't need to tell anyone, but last year I narrowly survived a suicide attempt.
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>>30968959
It's not really in my price range, but I did apply to free counseling a couple months ago. I've since gotten 1 call back, but it was for group art therapy. Also it took place when I was at work (12:00am till 2:00pm). If I get another call back for something reasonable I can actually do I'll definitely do it though. I'm already past desperate. I mean I'm here asking 4chan about how to get through it.
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>>30968916
Learn to self-regulateband interrupt the cycle as best you can and also get your life together as much as possible
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>>30968916

>> chronically suicidal
>> still alive
>> how do I survive the thoughts I've been surviving just fine

Genuine suicidal ideation does not result in posts like this, nor are they meant to be survived. Stop attention seeking cunt.
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>>30968916
Like other anons said ITT professional help is really the best solution by far, and the second best solution is reaching out to anybody, but I also think its wise to try and shorten your view on life. When I was in med school I had a couple upsetting scenarios coupled with the never ending work load that it gives you, and it really felt to me at that point like I was drowning in life. I read a book by an ex Navy SEAL who told me that you survive incredibly tough situations by making your horizons as short as possible. Rather than focusing 15-20 years ahead and realizing how much needs to be done, focus on making it from breakfast to lunch, then from lunch to dinner, then from dinner to breakfast, and repeat. When you think like this, life becomes much more managable and easier to cope with. I hope this helps anon, I really feel for you.
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>>30968916
Talk to the people who check up on you and offer you a shoulder. They're the ones most likely to genuinely care and not be bothered by you reaching out to them.
However, if you got none like that, just talk to the people you consider most dependable. There's no "when", it's good to have people know you're unwell in case you decide to act on your thoughts on an impulse.


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