Supposedly, there was a very heretical Pope during the Middle Ages, but he was not thought to be a heretic until after his life. Also, during the Renaissance or later Middle Ages, there was at least one extreme pervert occupying the seat of Saint Peter. Supposedly, if every Pope is legitimately selected, instead of allowing for the idea of manmade errors to creep into the Catholic Church, why were there heretical or even apostate Popes, at all? Aren't the gates of Hell not supposed to overcome the Catholic Church, even once? Also, what's with the retcons in the Vatican I and Vatican II councils? Supposedly, it was OK to not strictly believe in the ascension of Mary, but now, one goes to Hell for it, even if actual saints made it to Heaven believing otherwise, before.
>>16547621I'd put these into four categories. First off, you have the non-Roman Popes, such as those under Eastern and Oriental Orthodoxy and others. There is a person claiming to be Pope in Alexandria. You could extend this category to all kinds of small-scale or minor cults and it wouldn't in principle be any different, including those in America such as Elron Hubbard or Joseph Smith, and also gnostic heresies, state cults of personalities, anything else that has one leader who wants to put the entire world under his religious/ideological authority, since all such groups are equally illegitimate.Anyway, that's the first category of a kind of Pope that might slip through the cracks. The three others would be: 1) guys that were outright skipped or never existed due to mis-numbering (there were a few of these in the Papal States history). There is no John XX for instance. The number was apparently skipped due to misunderstanding history. Also, the whole history gets murky before Emperor Constantine. Then, 2) supposed "anti-popes," which are people who disputed the specific right to rule the Papal States before it was turned into Vatican City. The major and minor contenders are countless. At one point there were three major contenders in the 1300s. At this time, depending on which country you were in, the official line of Popes differed due to politics. Sometimes, an institution would change its recognition(s) later as well. With some of the more prominent anti-popes, this got to the point of being quite confusing due to the differing views that developed from the split recognition. There are individuals who, during their lifetime they were treated as anti-popes by some countries, but later those countries promoted him to Pope long after his death or vice versa, sometimes only centuries later. It's possible that some people or countries will change their recognition of who they believe was "rightfully in charge of Rome" in the future based on unknown contingencies.
>>16547987The fourth category which remains would be those Roman Popes whose existence many would prefer to forget, and for that reason they slipped through the cracks, which is probably what you alluded to. Before around 1059-1075, the Bishop of Rome was more like the post of a semi-autonomous vassal of the Holy Roman Emperors. During the 900s, the aristocracy of Rome was very openly hedonistic, and women connived to get their offspring into the bishopric post under what was called the "pornocracy." One man, numbered John XII, was known for calling upon the devil for help while playing dice, and he was killed by a man while caught red-handed in the act of adultery. It is reported that the title was also openly exchanged for money later on in the year 1045. Many of the holders of the title of Bishop of Rome during this time were basically hedonists. This trend also existed at other times as well, but it is best not to dwell on this since as Paul wrote in Ephesians, "For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret." (Ephesians 5:12)
What were the historical undercurrents that led to Ireland becoming a nazi country today?
Have I missed something? Isn't Ireland ultra-woke?
>>16547221>They have no designs for expansion or militarism.Yet every Irishman's got such poor math skills that they insist 26+6=1.
>>165471191. Downtrodden shithole country rapidly pulled out of the mud by Jews and Anglos despite intense hatred for both. The Mick is naturally ungrateful no matter how much you give, see how they treat Irish-Americans despite Irish-Americans being the only reason they have independence.2. Incredible levels of LARP nationalism that either focuses on an entirely mythological tradition with a stupid fairy language barely any of them speak, and weird communist bullshit.3. Love to claim that they hate nazis, but all their favorite political movements are national-socialist and align with Arab NatSocs like Gaddafi. Also the only country to send a letter of condolences to Nazi Germany after Hitler died.4. "Founding" myth of a potato famine that, according to the Irish, killed 1-1.2 million. This does not square with the reality that shows a population decline of 1.5 million from 1841-1851, emigration of 2.5 million from 1841-1861, and deaths from 1841-1851 totaling 400k from all diseases, and a mere 20k from starvation.
>>16547894No, nazi irlendanders support Jewish genocide performed by Palestinian terrorist.
>>16547959That is a leftist genocide, though. Do you think genocide = nazi? What do you think Stalin and Mao were doing in their spare time?
So apart from Remembrance Day, Australians and New Zealanders are the only ones who have another day where they remember an event during WW1.Why is it that these two Anglo countries remember WW1 more so than Europeans?Euros explain yourselves.
>>16547352Are you retarded
>>16547352We give a big shit about wwI in Canada.
>>16547434Why don’t you Eurofags care about WW1?>>16547537I know, only us fellow Anglo chads care.Euroshats are too busy obsessing over le WW2
>us fellow Anglo chads The American occupation of the Philippines and its consequences have been a disaster for /his/
>>16547929You got the wrong Chud you cunt
What's the best version of "Scholar Society" in history?For example, the medieval scholastic monks or the ancient Chinese philosopher cliques
>>16547624>>16547855Seethe
>>16547628It seems everything is just Business orientated now.
>>16547908Mercantilist degeneracy is the curse of long-lived bloodlines.
>>16547912They should be literal Kings but instead they are "Investment Bankers".
>>16547951It’ll be a cold day in hell before I allow a Bonaparte back on the throne
Hypothetically, how much effort did Slavs, Jews, Romany, and other targeted groups of people have to go through in order to be seen as collaborators with the Nazis enough to be safe from harm? While betrayal is unethical, how many people ended up surviving because of collaborating with the invading regime? What happened to most of them post-war? Were they regarded as irredeemable traitors, maybe even imprisoned or executed, or did any manage to get back into a respectable position in society? How much collaboration would have called for an imprisonment or even an execution?
>>16547598Man that movie fucked with my head so badly.Why are men so awful to one another?
>>16547726Well if it helps you, Come and See is very much a propaganda piece. Over 36% of the Belarusians who died in WW2 were Jews, and they made up a definite majority of civilian deaths (so many were killed on the spot that less than 1/5 of their 1939 population were even ghettoized, let alone sent to any camps). Despite this, Come and See includes only one token jew in a throwaway line during the village massacre, even then a historical inaccuracy.The massacre is a recreation of the Khatyn Massacre, which was specifically chosen by the Belarusian SSR as their main memorial (as opposed to 5000+ other Belarusian villages completely destroyed during the war) specifically because it was a 100% Belarusian town and did not require acknowledging any minority populations. Every victim was "soviet" rather than Soviet Jews, Ukrainians, Poles, etc.
>>16547866>it was justified, only 2/3 of the victims were not jews.Fuck off to your containment board.
>>16547885Don't know if you're retarded, but it's the fact that Come and See, despite being a great movie, plays into the same Soviet propaganda that erases minority victims of the war, particularly Jews, Poles, and Ukrainians. They built a fucking TV tower over Babyn Yar and banned practically any serious study of the Holocaust because identifying "Jews" instead of "Soviet citizens" could stoke nationalist tensions.The entire point of the Khatyn Memorial was to erase non-Belarusian minorities from their national history of the war, despite them making up the vast majority of the death toll. Come and See is focused around Khatyn, rather than again, any of the other 5000+ Belarusian villages that endured the same fate.
>>16547923It isn't a document. You are babbling like all leftists which insist that _all_ movies must have some black lesbian transvestite in them (because they exist!!!) That is all movies must, in fact, be propaganda.
So our prehistoric ancestors.. before they branched off into primates and humans.. were squirrel-like creatures such as pic rel? Hard to believe.But wow.. we were tree rats once, /his/
>>16547767God I fucking hope so I love squirrels and they are really intelligent with excellent long term memory
nah
>>16547801Echidnas and platypuses are way too specialized. Of course the viviparous mammals took their ecological niches, but I think we should indeed look at the shrew or a possum to figure what the common ancestor looked like.
>>16547479>>>/sci/
>>16547767Oh sweet Jesus...
a history-related topic
>>16547373I think orient is used for pre-islamic middle east too.
Stealth jeet thread
>>16547867Not him, but you're wrong. It generally refers to China area.
>>16547917Says whom? I’ve never heard that, “orient” evokes swarthy magean cultures and desert landscapes. For example, there’s the term “orientalist.”
>>16547915Kek came here to post this
>didn't like sex>didn't like the coliseum>despised luxury>christian god performed miracles in his path yet didn't convert>didn't give a single fuck about wife cheating him>woke up everyday imagining how awful interactions with other people would be>would rather be alone in the imperium borders writing his diary than in Rome>yet the imperium liked him so much and is considered one of the greatests emperorsis this the power os stoicism?
>>16545792xtian delusions
>>16545787>yet the imperium liked him so much and is considered one of the greatests emperorsSometimes the best ruler is the one who minds his own business and doesn't bother the people.
>>16547189Old King Log
>>16545787>>didn't give a single fuck about wife cheating himDidn't he thank her at the start of the meditations for being good mother or something?
>>16545787>>christian god performed miracles in his path yet didn't convertDidn't happen>>didn't give a single fuck about wife cheating himAlso (probably) didn't happen, if you even read the source it says that he brutally murdered the man doing it.>woke up everyday imagining how awful interactions with other people would beHe clearly enjoyed conversation with others and wrote often to his friends>would rather be alone in the imperium borders writing his diary than in RomeYou do know he was at war, leading armies for well over a decade?
>>16547752If he weren't new, he'd know specifics and name them, vs making a generic shitty mememaker.com piece of shit for >(OP)s.
>>16547752>>16547759I'm actually the one who created this image last Saturday (not OP). It was based on this image, which was the first reply to a thread
>>16547747What is the problem wit yamnaya?
>>16547739>no "histuber/historybuff eceleb" spaceget a load of this tourist.
>>16547781>>16547739/adv/ with dates seems like a waste of space, I'd replace it with r/ask historians or Quora tier question.
What happened to the hundreds of millions of Native Americans and Chinese people that never heard of Jesus or the Gospel and didn't accept his sacrifice for the first 1,500 years of Christianity? Did they go to heaven after they died? Well in that case I guess you don't need to believe in Jesus to get to heaven.
since the Logos is part of every person (we are made in his image), if they heeded their God given conscience they are "a law unto themselves"Romans 211 For there is no respect of persons with God.12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>16547186They get resurrected on the Last Judgement. Those who are judged to be righteous will join Jesus in fighting the forces of Satan at Armageddon.
i ain't letting another dude enter me, that's fucking gay
>>16547186The popes already clarified this as soon as we've encountered the natives. Atheist smartasses late to the party by hundreds of years, typical.
>>16547186They got dealt with justly."Therefore hearken unto me, ye men of understanding: far be it from God, that he should do wickedness; and from the Almighty, that he should commit iniquity.For the work of a man shall he render unto him, and cause every man to find according to his ways.Yea, surely God will not do wickedly, neither will the Almighty pervert judgment."- Job 34:10-12
Were the Teutonic Knights basically Vikings?>Raided Christians>Enslaved Slavs>Allied with other Vikings (Danes)>Powerful Baltic navy>Even wore horned helmets
They were influence by Normans conquerer mindset and Venetian greedily & cleverness
>>16545162No they were basically Ancient Greeks>Raided their enemies>Lead large expeditions for money, fame and land>Founded colonies >Large naval presence>Heavily involved in fighting on foot with small elite forces and conscripted 'brothers'>Used locals to fight alongside themCompared to the Greeks they basically have nothing in common with Vikings
The 18th century will never be topped in terms of beauty and aesthetics and that's a great shame.
ok
The most aesthetic time is the present
>>16547850Faggot dress.
What would European Islam be like?
>>16547206>Guy talks about overall European birth rates>"But what about me? I have a 8 children..."Was it autism?
>>16547241? is he a nazi
>>16547206>Wastes time on twitterVarg's 8 children will be criminals, drug addicts, and prostitutes
>>16547270he is retarded and cant understand "per capita" like most european descendants
Does this asshole believe in anything other than skin color?
How influential and revolutionary was the American Revolution for its time? The Revolutionary War led to the drafting of the Constitution which reflected the social and political realities of the time, including the prevalent attitudes towards race, gender, and class. The Constitution would ultimately exclude the experiences of marginalized groups such as enslaved people and women as both groups were denied basic human rights. Enslaved people were recognized as property rather than citizens or human beings, while women were largely sidelined from political participation and lacked legal recognition in many aspects of society. Although the revolution drew on Enlightenment principles such as liberty, republicanism, and democracy, how would one measure its legacy?profound ideological shifts, particularly regarding ideas of governance, rights, and representation. Concepts such as liberty, democracy, and republicanism gained prominence, influencing political thought not only in the United States but also globally.
>>16547072More revolutionary than Europeans want to believe but less revolutionary than Americans want to believe.
>>16547072It blew the starting whistle on independence movements from the mother country, but in my opinion, the single most important legacy of the American revolution is the sentence “all men are created equal.” Not joking. Yes, it was hypocritical. Yes it was written by a slave holder. Yes it was not enforced. Yes it, at least explicitly, excludes women. But having that statement, with no weasely qualifications that would make it more “accurate” to it’s writer’s circumstances, be near the top of the first ever independent formerly-colonial republic’s founding document, was revolutionary for the time, and still is today. There hasn’t been a single subsequent debate about rights and liberty that hasn’t looked back to that sentence for basic justification.
>>16547072>How influential and revolutionary was the American Revolution for its time?The American Revolution's greatest legacy is the fact that it caused the French Revolution, which turned the entire Western social/political/economic order on its head. In terms of actual ideology, I don't think it had that much of a lasting impact. The early French revolutionaries, like Lafayette, were very much taking their cues from the American Revolution, but they were quickly steamrollered by the Jacobins, Girondins, later the Thermidoreans, and eventually the Bonapartes.The only reason the American Revolution is more than a historical footnote, a predecessor helping spark the French revolution, is the fact that the US became the world's dominant power about 200 years later.
>>16547183>in my opinion, the single most important legacy of the American revolution is the sentence “all men are created equal" ... was revolutionary for the time, and still is today. This retains a pull on people in other countries. Americans don't think about it much, but last time I was in D.C., I went over to the Jefferson memorial and met a guy from Djibouti who came up to me and was asking questions, about who was who, and oh, that's Jefferson here, and Lincoln over there... and was genuinely "into it" in a way that 4chan shut-ins are with weird ideologies that alienate girls. Kind of an Ameriboo I guess but who knows what kind of tribalism and ethnic conflict goes on there. I thought the Christian rock band D.C. Talk presented that line with a lot of punch and power:https://youtu.be/kbB0QrBIs9k
>>16547072It was a major advancement in the concept of putting freedom and liberty to practice and an advancement in showing the possibilities that existed, and this actually being real caused the world to shift in that direction as a whole. In particular, the idea of not dictating what subjects must believe in was an absolutely revolutionary concept. It is one that the Constitutional framers borrowed from the Rhode Island charter of 1663, which at that time had been unlike anything in the entire world at the time.Nowadays, many of these things are simply taken for granted, and I don't mind the fact. In actual practice they started in the U.S. and people still today value and realize the possibilities of freedom in many parts of the world where it is lacking.
Was the hype justified?
