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Climbing General #6

A place to talk about climbing in any aspect (trad, sport, bouldering, aid, alpine, etc).

Rock Climbing is a dangerous sport that can cause loss of life, limb, eyesight, or sanity.

Useful Info:
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Off-belay thread: >>1544289

Happiness is a nice crack and a large rack
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>>1578054
you only put chalk on the rock to mark a hold that his hidden from view (around a corner) so you know where to grab roughly. Always brush tick marks off though, dont be that guy.
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I'm kind of stuck at an awkward plateau where i can generally flash v4s with ease but v5s seems not doable. What are some suggestions that you all have for getting over this plateau?
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>>1583816
start working v6s. you'll fail hilariously, but when you come back to v5s they'll seem easier by comparison.
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>>1583813
if chalk on a rock bothers you that much go climb somewhere no one goes, pussy
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>>1583816
Depends on why you fail.

Post your stupid meme items to improve sleep quality in a tent.
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>>1577381
I'll do ya one better, I got one of these on clearance and used it as an air mattress a few times.
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Fan of the klymit, but shitty blue foam is fine as well.
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>>1583611
I like mine as well, easy to fill and pack away. Pretty comfy too.
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>>1578803
I can start drifting off lying on my back, but then I start snoring and wake myself up from the brink of unconsciousness.
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This, but pretty purple pony princess edition instead.

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>>1584040
I feel like if I told you I'd just be begging for (out)'s. It was from a while ago.
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>>1584045
(you)'s* I had a mini stroke for a second there.
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I eat my boogers.
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>>1584045
>>1584048
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>>1584052
here you are: >>1575430

Was it autism?
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>>1566999
>Personally, I think the evidence is there to draw a reasonable conclusion McCandless was suffering from a mental illness: schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, narcissistic personality disorder, take your pick.

hot trash. just make a diagnosis and call it a day bro. fuck you for posting this garbage
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>>1542941
>and not full of cum
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>>1566942
Where is this bus exactly? Why is it so hard to get to?
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I want to find this fuckers bus and graffiti "/out/ was here" on the side.
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>>1583863
50miles from several McDonald's: >>1545757

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if you had a vehicle you were comfortable sleeping in, no desire at all to pay rent, a hatred for anything besides odd jobs and being wasted, and 5k in the bank account

where would you drive to
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>>1584006
There are no jobs there idiot
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>>1584006
You'll think I'm dead, but I sail away
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>>1584005
I'd probably drive to Alaska and kill myself 5 miles away from the nearest McDonalds.
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>>1584005
I'd probably drive west and be a trout bum.
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>>1584020
mmmm communion wine

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Making good progress on my camper van. Got some insulation in. This weekend I will go the floor. My goal is to have the insulation, floor, windows, fan, and bed frame finished by September. My first trip will be to Lassen Volcanic NP.
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>>1583500
What are you insulting with?
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>>1583776
There is 1.5" polyiso foam board panels behind the panels. In the ceiling is 1", and .5" under the floor. In all the nooks and crannies I put thinsulate batting.
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>>1583806
That makes me wet
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>>1582878
>The most important accessory to take camping
Not for any longer trips anon. No more than a week tops
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>>1573017
>What you're referring to is called RV's and you need a special license
Not in Hamerica.

Is it important to look aesthetic when going on trips?
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>>1578582
Welcome to the rice fields mother fucker.
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>>1581499
>Its pretty offensive to me
Those offended at others are really offended about things within themselves
You must be insecure with your masculinity
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>>1581501
because even in the woods we are still civilized people
and not some kind of bushniggers
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>>1581501
If you dont smell, you see more animals, anon.
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>>1578398
It's not necessarily important to look aesthetic, but it is important to feel aesthetic.

where would be the best place for a quiet isolated homestead, western NC seems nice and I know people there but Montana seems pretty amazing
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Montana sucks. dont move here
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>>1583638
Might be looking for something in Eastern Nebraska. Know anything about this area?
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>>1583620
>being this pedantic
Cringy as fuck.
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>>1583987
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Rhodesia.

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My firesteel is bigger than yours.
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>>1582825
>imblyign a fire stick will actually light an fire on the first strike

>>1582827
Nah it has to be more than that. My chainsmoking ass gets like a month or two out of a bic, I bet it will last like 10 cartons, that’s 2000 lights at least.
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>>1582296
You have small hands.
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>he doesn't use a rod big enough to be used as a bludgeoning weapon and a dildo
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>>1582828
I like firesteels cause it slows down the process. Sure, if I want a super quick fire, I'll just pull out a bic. My life is constantly go, go, go... Going /out/ is to slow down and enjoy my time, using a fire steel seems to add to the enjoyment. Also enjoy the sparks too.
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How big has my firesteel to be to baton with it? I dont wanna slip and hurt myself. Is a 2cm rad too small?

Hello /out/ from another corner of 4chan, I really think things are going to get shitty soon. I’ve spent quite a lot of time outside in recent months trying to gain some experience, and I’m beginning to realize surviving without modern amenities isn’t fun and would actually suck. I can romanticize things all I want, but I’d probably die, especially with Minnesota’s climate. What are some things that I should get and fields I can get experienced in to prepare for the big one? I have to support a family of 4 who have little to no outdoors experience who believe things will always be fine. I have $1400 to spend.

And sorry that I’m not contributing much here besides “AHHH HELP ME /OUT/“
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>>1581780
>prepping is fat amerishits buying a million guns and warehouses of canned food
lol ok
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>>1581780
>why do i feel bad for people who prep?
Probably because you associate prepping with the idiots that think the entire world is going to end and have a twenty-year stockpile of beans, rice and .556 but lack the common sense to actually live their lives, focusing solely on what they'd have IF a very particular natural or unnatural disaster occurred.

Where I live, the most anyone ever needs is a generator and enough fuel, food and drinking water to last a couple of weeks, because all that ever happens here is winter power outages, followed by idiots buying out the grocery stores because despite this happening almost every winter, they all act like the world is ending every time it happens.
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>>1581780
>>1583896
>this
underground bunkers and grain stockpiles are arguably retarded wastes of money
however, if you don't have at least:
a flashlight, water bottle, knife, mobile battery, and band-aids (and a gun) in your backpack,
jumper cables, some spare water or a lifestraw, road flares, and a blanket in your car,
and a few days' worth of water and canned food, batteries, candles, and some ammo at home,
you're not even prepared for the bare minimum of mundane shit that life can throw at you.
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>>1581780
>the ones that do will lead to a decimation of game,edible flora,and fish in huge areas
has this happened before?
I like to think most people are too stupid and would die off before everything got decimated
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>>1580966
Civilizaton in some aspect is always going to survive of course, but you also have to consider how big these crashes are going to be, not even resource or economic crashes, but these could spark new world conflict, which would be very profitable to the alternative until the East Coast is an radioactive exclusion zone

>be me
>north east ohioan
>hunted squirrels with a .22 once but nothing else
>want to learn to deer hunt
>intend to go this winter
I have a muzzle loader that is legal to hunt in ohio with
>pic related, Thompson center arms hawken
But i have absolutely no idea what to do beyond find a place i can legally hunt and walk around until i see a deer, then shoot it in the heart/lungs and wear orange so i dont get shot. What do i need besides food and water, a gun, and a knife to field dress the deer?
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>>1583718
Nice straight grain. Love the foreend cap, hard to find such nice ones!

I just picked up a Win M88 in .308 Win, also in great shape.
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>>1583749
>hard to find such nice ones

It was one of those weird super lucky gunshow finds. Paid like $275 for it. Jelly of the m88 though
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>>1583775
>rate find

Me too, I went back to the show on the second day for one-of-a-kind pic related and in passing mentioned I didn't have an M88.

He said, let me see what I can do... I counter offered on the pkg deal and.... mine!
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>>1584026
Hand made, one of a kind.
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>>1584028
Lol, "aesthetics" a trending topic on /out/ now, ya'll can stuff it if you think aesthetics don't matter!

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Let's be honest here, aesthetics are supremely important to camping and outdoorsmanship.

I know none of us like LARPers, and a lot of people on this board will pretend they are above shallow affections, or that it's of the most minor consideration to you, but you would all be lying if a big dumb blue coolers and yuppie lycra spandex active wear didn't seriously take the piss out of a pristine outdoors moment for you.
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>>1580692
Laid-back Chad mode
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Yes but typcially earth-tone /out/ gear of relatively high quality looks pretty aesthetic to me.

That said I wear a bug net over my head in the later summer months which is very non-aesthetic.
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>>1581257
How do I become a "laid-back Chad"?
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How can I make my camp look more aesthetic?
Specially like having more order, and not having stuff everywere.
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>>1582003
By having stuff hanging everywhere.

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I am taking a trip the last week of September to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania for 2 nights then staying at a cabin near Spruce Knob (Riverton, WV) for 4 nights.

Any ideas for what to do there?

I want to maybe do an EASIER day hike in Dolly Sods with a good view where the trail is at least somewhat decently marked if possible and I won't get super lost.

I also was thinking Bald Knob chairlift, and the last day we are going to raft the Savage River dam release.

I want to have multiple ideas of hikes, caving, maybe something outdoors near/in Pittsburgh as well.

Last time we did just the first bit of the Bear Rocks trail in Dolly Sods, and the Cheat High Falls trail, and the time before we did the Seneca Creek trail. I love water features, views, and meadows.

My dad wants to visit a coal mine. Is that even possible?

Open to suggestions! We will be traveling from the 22-28 of September this year.
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>>1583755
it is called "heath barrens" habitat
Most famous example is the Dolly Sods in WV, but you can also find patches in PA and NY, the larger ones in PA i know of are the Quehanna wild area and Moosic mountain.


>>1583732
>My dad wants to visit a coal mine. Is that even possible?
in NEPA you can go to Ashland or Scranton coal mine tours. Ashland is definitely recommended, but it might be out of the way. If you swing by Ashalnd the burning city of Centralia is only a 5 miles up the road. There's also a fossil pit in Centralia if you're into that stuff.
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>>1583785
red is from the blueberry bushes
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>>1584000
Heath family is blueberry cranberry bushes etc tho

the whole point is its typical of climes far further north and happens because of elevation and wind

its a climate more typical of low elevations in southern atlantic canada

>in NEPA you can go to Ashland or Scranton coal mine tours. Ashland is definitely recommended, but it might be out of the way. If you swing by Ashalnd the burning city of Centralia is only a 5 miles up the road. There's also a fossil pit in Centralia if you're into that stuff.

we won't be near any of that

What about some local museums or indoor rain options?

Also I was thinking maybe a full day hike to otter creek wilderness but I don't want to get super lost so maybe there's a better choice?


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>>1583732
>Open to suggestions!
stop redditspacing for a start

>>1584007
>Heath family is blueberry cranberry bushes etc tho
yes, and another name for heath barrens is blueberry barrens
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>>1584011
I'm just saying since a lot of people draw a blank at heath and know what a blueberry and cranberry plant is roughly.

Anyways the cool part about this environment is how there's northern plants/climate at fairly southern latitudes due to elevation and wind.

There's some evergreen biomes at higher altitudes and beautiful transition zones where you go from deciduous trees to lush evergreen zones at higher elevations. Many plants found in this part of WV are mostly found much further north, as your pic is, in Maine or even Canada.

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Coffee time yurufriends.
Have an camptastic weekend everyone.
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>>1581432
What region is this? Beautiful. Also there's not a lot on/by Linkola in English.I know a biography just came out about him (maybe the same as your audiobook). Haven't seen anything about it being translated to English. Learn Finnish they told me
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>>1580883
are these berries edible?
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>>1581084
Indeed I have, but I still carry a cup.
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Please rember Yuru means easygoing.
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>>1581023
Nice chicken wings. Good pic

What footwear is the best choice for /out/?

For me, any military boots with high collar like pic related
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>>1579504
>My feet got soaked
There are plenty of water resistant boots you can buy, but full waterproofing is difficult to do. Consider either galoshes (to wear over the boots) or stopping periodically to change socks
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>>1583846
Definitively don't glue them. I guess you got unlucky and got the wrong size or something. Just get new insoles that fit you.
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Scarpa Mojito Trail GTX
for daily wear in winter, trailrunning, hiking and easy ferratas

La Sportiva Trango Tech GTX
for ferratas and actual mountain hiking

Lowa Tibet GTX
For when i go mountaineering in the alps
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If it's something pretty easy and it isn't cold as balls, my xero terraflex (minimalist)

Otherwise I just use some redwing boots I thrifted. Or I would, but they gave out last year. Maybe I'll try something in this thread.
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>>1579504
Also, you want to get wool socks. Just Don't try to wrong them out too hard or you'll ruin them.


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