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Are these worth the price tag for someone who's planning to do some serious solo backcountry adventures next decade?
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So I should pay $360 a year for a service I won’t use but a handful of times? I’m a section hiker and weekend backpacker.
yall are idiots. it costs $15 a month on an as needed basis. just upgraded to the Garmin 66i myself, which is what will replace the inreach line.
I have a small PLB for if I'm severely in the shit; I have a Baofeng I can carry to provide comms to the two likely platforms that would respond to the PLB - fixed-wing or rotary wing rescue aircraft but most of the time I just chuck the PLB in a pouch with a few other things that would be handy if I ended up in serious strife and then forget about it.
Yes. If they still can't find you with one of these on your person you must've got missing 411'd
I'm considering getting a Garmin 66i like this >>1654761 anon, but everything I've read about syncing has mentioned the Garmin Explore app and how that is the only way to transfer data to your device.
Can anyone confirm or help? I do not have a smartphone, but have a laptop if a corded, non-app connection works.

Climbing General #8

A place to talk about climbing in any aspect (trad, sport, bouldering, aid, alpine, etc).

Rock Climbing is a dangerous sport that can cause loss of life, limb, eyesight, or sanity.

Useful Info:
Off-belay thread: >>1608601

My nuts are too small and I have no Friends
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I fucking did it lads, I'm this noob over here >>1649937 and today I sent my first gym route. A simple 4A but it felt good finally reaching the top.

Couldn't send anything else afterwards (climbed for 3 hours) but I did two thirds of a 3 and half or the beginnings of a few 4C routes to practice some movements and techinque. I climb with my brother who does 5A's so he helps me out a bit.

So tired now, can barely move.

Based gumby. Give yourself a year of regularly climbing, you'll get on the real shit soon.

Also, checked
Wire gate or solid gate for the clipping carbiner?
Wire is cheaper and lighter, but solid can have nice ergonomics and keylock nose for super smooth clips. Useful when redpointing hard routes.
I use wire 'cause I'm poor.
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kinda wanna get into some speed climbing. Watching the reel rock film about honnold/caldwell's speed record got me stoked... especially the Huber brothers, Potter/Leary and of course Gobright/Reynolds just tearing it the fuck up previously. I want some of that action. How would y'all train for some speed climbing? Any exercises you'd recommend to become beastly fast at systems/efficiency/management? I have the need for speed, the head to shred.

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Old thread: >>1645139

Search terms,
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General Info & Anon-created Guides: https://pastebin.com/Mvfh8b87
Check sister thread: >>>/an/plant


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Depth is most important. Will the roots have enough room to grow without getting so root bound that you need to repot every 2 years? Seasonal veggies won't need that sort of repotting of course. 48cm, depth isn't very much to be filling in the bottom with wood. There may be room enough for about 6cm of wood on the bottom. Hugelkultur works a bit better on a larger scale.
The weeds of course. lol Here's some of the more well known and used ones,

Syzygium luehmannii
Davidsonia spp.
Citrus australasica
Araucaria bidwillii
Macadamia spp.
Santalum acuminatum

Kunzea pomifera
Rubus spp.

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*sips* you dont get ya dumb millennial. Thats prime mowing land. Why grow them avacados when you can just buy em at the store. *sips* Cant by a freshly manicured lawn anywhere. Simple as.
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So I have some seeds from a Korean varietal of pear that I took from one, and I was getting to thinking about seeing if I can get them growing. There's an empty space for a tree right now around the house and I was thinking if I can get a sapling or few of these pear trees growing, it'd be perfect to place there.

I was thinking I would plant them in some pots come January so that it's not too early and by the time March hits, I can transfer one to the ground at least. I was also thinking of letting the pots stay outdoors during the day but bringing them in at night so as to get any potential sprouts accustomed to the outside light without having to worry (as much) about transplant shock.

Thoughts? Advice? The seeds look mature enough, so I think it should work...
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would a raised bed made out of whatever wood bed slatting is made of last?

I work at a thrift store and can get a hold of a bunch of them if donated beds come in broken or incomplete

#298-“HIGH TEST” Edition

Previous Thread:

Thinking about picking up a new hobby? Want to get a memecaster? Haven't mastered the Palomar knot? Click here!

Talk about fishin
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Get a reel that's compact and lightweight.
I'm personally a fan of Daiwa for spinning reels, they really hit the ball out of the park with their LT lineup.
Size 1000 or 2000 and around 6oz would be ideal. For very small streams and rivers there's no need for size 2500 and up.
I use a JDM Daiwa Ballistic LT FW in size 2000. In that range, the Daiwa Kage LT, Tatula LT, or the Luvias are also nice. Shimano Stradic CI4+ or the new Stradic FL are also options depending on your budget, but are probably overkill for the type of fishing you're doing in small streams. You can even get by on a lower end reel if your budget is tight.
Thanks, man. I'm looking forward to the new trout season already.
god i don't know how well its known outside of saltwater but those ghost white xraps in a size 10 or 12 are fuckin like a line of coke to a king or spanish mackerel. literally never fails if they are there.

mangroves? inshore we've caught them around structure using small live-baits. we don't get yellowtail around here but i've fished them before in the keys. big ass chum bag, small #4 hooks, and use literally any piece of dead bait. bonita chunks, ballyhoo, etc.
Can't trout be caught year round? I was looking at some parts of the kancamagus river but I'm not sure that the parking lots won't be gated when it's closed for the season
Alright boys, emails have been sent. Post your hauls when you get em. Should be a good secret santa this year.

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I love the vibes that I get when I'm in nature and want to experience it at least a bit in my daily life. What painting/music/video/book/anything represents the true spirit of wilderness best in your opinion?
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Its romanticism, but fuck its so comfy
this song
>Yes, they're wanting me, they're haunting me, the awful lonely places;
>They're whining and they're whimpering as if each had a soul;
>They're calling from the wilderness, the vast and God-like spaces,
>The stark and sullen solitudes that sentinel the Pole.

>They miss my little camp-fires, ever brightly, bravely gleaming
>In the womb of desolation, where was never man before;
>As comradeless I sought them, lion-hearted, loving, dreaming,
>And they hailed me as a comrade, and they loved me evermore.

>And now they're all a-crying, and it's no use me denying;
>The spell of them is on me and I'm helpless as a child;
>My heart is aching, aching, but I hear them, sleeping, waking;
>It's the Lure of Little Voices, it's the mandate of the Wild.

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I unironically like gondola art. Something about him captures the spirit of /out/ for me...the way he just walks around silently observing the world.

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>have some of the most beautiful unspoilt land left in the world
>everyone else loves it
>but you don't give a shit and just keep cutting and burning it for lulz

Why do Brazillians do this shit? Do they just not care? Is it the govt's fault?
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cringe tourist
>I would rather see the rainforest destroyed than look like a hypocrite.
right wingers ruin the world
is that DFW?
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So Im in a bad possition, but I found the good in it.
Long story short, no home, no job, lost everything, or selling what I got left, so nothing to lose. So here's a rethorical question. If you where in my shoes, where would you move? State, country, town? Plane, train, bus, hitch hike. You only have money for a one-way ticket and some food. 2 things mama & papa are no option. Military is out the question, I'am a pacifist. Support the troop not the war. Just you, passport, and a backpack of what you need. I got about a week to plan this move. I have paypal, and a bank account if you wanna throw me some $£¥ for the road. Otherwise let me hear your input I'm only a 23 year old guy, doomer, musician and skater. Mostly in it for the small things. I'If you are younger or older let me know what you would do what you did and what you would do different. Is this a good tinder bio? Are girls into drifters with no cars lol. Jokes aside I dont have any "problems" that got me here. Just a broke boy, no saftey net.
>>TLDR: If you can move anyonewhere with "nothing"(passport, clothes on back, backpack), in abouymt a week where would it be?

P.S :( not much /adv at /adv, asked /trv...

/out ?
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I'd move to California. That place is about to collapse and I want to see it before it goes.
i did. it's boring as fuck honestly
What's your source of income? I assume you need atleast a little money
>i'm a pacifist

Have you done trains before or just want to try it out?

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This is a long shot but fuck it, is any of you looking for a buddy to travel and /out/ for a month or two around Europe next summer? Eastbound ideally.
Yeah maybe man. What do you have planned?
Starting on the first week of June somewhere in central Europe and going east from there. I would be up for Ukraine, Belarus, Romania, Turkey, Caucasus. Damn it, with the right group I wouldn't put off visiting central Asia.
Flying, train, hitchhiking that's no problem.
>around Europe
what do you mean "around" Europe? like where my guy? where is A and where is B, where are you from? what kinda /out/ we talking?
is this /out/ backpacking or pic related backpacking?

if it's the latter you might find better luck on >>>/trv/
Starting in Hungary and going east. Besides the free time and the will to hit the road I have not thought this through, I'm open to suggestions and willing to adapt to make this happen.

I know there are other anons here who share this feel.

>what kinda /out/ we talking
Hiking and camping. If one anon wants to hike the length of the Carpathians I'm down. If other anon wants hitchhike and visit small towns in Russia I'm up too.

Explained above.
I guess but /out/ is my home and it fits here too. Lets see how this thread goes.

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Anyone else /nightwalk/ ?

It clears your mind so much it's unbelievable. Everything becomes so clear and conscious which enables you to solve complex questions / issues that have been plaguing your existence

Got a crisis going on in your life? get fucking walking. Need a reason to live? bathe in the light of the moon.
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Thanks, its my old way to school.
there's something about you...
an autistic general to surpass batonny, EDC and even the tobacco pipe threads
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>Just returned
Me also. I'm in southeast Alaska and I was on a trail about 600 feet up. When I got home I noticed the spider web. If I had seen it then I would have mag dumped.
I miss being able to walk at night, I still could although the temp at night here is around -3

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Looking for a watch for /out/ but I'm also looking for taking it out ice fishing. Where I'm from this means the temperature could get to -20f (-28.8c)

while on my wrist it may not get there, the windchill while looking at the watch may get it really freaking cold. I'm looking at the Pathfinder PAG240-1 from Casio but I can't seem to find the operating temperature.
I know the sensor only goes from 14 degrees to 104 or something, but not really any info on operating temp of the LCD.

I know Casio also makes a Low Temp LCD watch but it doesn't have the options. Or is there another brand that is low-temp with lots of /out/ options?

Gen watch threat too
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>14 days
I mean, yes I understand but at that point, just get a smart watch.
I'd replace the "Have to spend money" with something that at least solar charges like a seiko or casio
Nigga what? The dude has blonde hair on his arms. Wow you’re fucking stupid.
>white knighting for the twink
you know he's not gonna suck your dick for that, right?
Oh, I see what you’re doing. You’re an idiot, my mistake. Carry on.
Recommend a cheap watch(£50 or less) solar powered, digital display or doesn't tick, If digital it should have a compass

It’s about that time of year again, boys.
Hopefully everyone has saved a bit to spread some outdoors cheer to anons across the globe. i remember guys from the US, UK, CA, MX, and DE getting gifts.

if you don’t know how it’s done:
1: make an Amazon wish list
2: add /out/ related items
3: click “manage list” and update your /out/ list’s shipping address. simply updating your shipping address will not suffice. many anons had problems with missed shipments over the years.
4: copy and paste your list in your post
5: keep the gift giving going and tell the anon you bought for him so others can get a chance
6: remember you are on 4chan and may not get lucky.

i hope everyone gets a gift this year and you use your new equipment in the field.

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My gift arrived!!! And just in time because I've been having a rough time lately. Thanks sooooooo much Anon! I'm going to the woods next week, I'll take an action picture with it then and post it here :D
>been having a rough time lately
Not the gifter, but bless you in general, Anon.
Chin up! Go hone those nav skills! See you in the backcountry.
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OK guys, mexianon here.
This is my list
26RE2OHYS8YL1 (amazon us)
Please, take in consideration that since it is international shiping some items will have like a 6 or 7 dollars sphing cost.

Also, a pic of the gifts from last years, I've enjoyed every single one of them.

I tried to gift you something, but it says it is duplicated. Shall I proceed?

And i also tried to gift you someting but amazon is asking for a passport Id or something like that because Israel customs, and I dont know what to do.

Merry christmas anons!

Thank you both! I appreciate it!

Feel free to post tobaccos (no weed allowed), pipes, collections, pics of favorite combos for going /out/, pics of what you're doing with your pipe and any questions you might have.

Want to get into smoking pipes without spending too much cash?
Get a Missouri Meerschaum Legend corncob pipe and a pouch of either Prince Albert, Carter Hall or Half and Half tobacco, available at most drugstores.
What you'll need: pipe, tobacco, lighter or matches, pipe cleaners, and either a regular old nail or a pipe tool (combination tamper, scoop, and small pick).
All of these together should run you less than $20.

Having trouble keeping your pipe lit? Fill it with less tobacco and smoke it slower than you think you need to, lightly tamping as needed when the smoke starts thinning out.
If you're still having trouble, try filling your pipe this way:

Old thread >>1591244
Come on in and get comfy.
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First, I would recommend not inhaling the smoke, but that’s how a pipe should properly be used anyway.
General rule of thumb: if you’re coughing, you’re doing it wrong.
As for style, whichever you prefer. We recommend a Missouri Meerschaum Legend here because it’s cheap, widely available and smokes very well.

Not sure, but I don’t think so.
Smoked some C&D Mountain Camp last night and it paired very well with the cold weather, needs to be a bit more hydrated but, again, that could have been the weather
4noggins. Low intercept rate since they "creatively label" their shipments to Canada (eg. the last shipments I got were labeled "packing supplies"). Keep the price under 100, and don't go crazy on the amount of tobacco either. Someone mentioned 7oz or less, and so far that's been working out for me.

If you try other online shops that ship here, post your results. Pretty sure pipesandcigars and smokingpipes do as well, could try them too.
Land of the free..
The only hobby you listed that might impact things is hiking, if you want to bring your pipe with you. A Missouri Meerschaum corncob is a good start for $5. Low investment if you don't like smoking, smokes great from the get-go, and if you break or lose it on a hiking trip, you're not out a lot of money (or one of a kind carved pipe).

Regarding your other questions, I'm not familiar with "oriental" pipes other than the kiseru, but that's meant to be used with very fine kizami tobacco that you roll into a ball and smoke in one good puff for a quick nicotine hit. If there is a pipe made in Asia or has an Asian design, go with what you think looks good, but maybe test on a cob first, unless you are more interested in collecting pipes than you are smoking them. Your health shouldn't be an issue if you keep it to a few times per week, and don't inhale (not meant to, anyway). If you're worried about mouth/tongue/throat issues, don't drink before or while smoking, switch the side of your mouth you hold the pipe in each session, smoke slowly to keep the smoke cool, and brush your teeth after you finish smoking. Those help reduce some of the health risk factors.

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My apologies if this is too political for /out/, but why has the Republican party moved away from conservation policy? It seems like if they really cared about rural America and people who make a living off the land, then they would have more concern about industrial practices that poison and exhaust our natural resources.
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Long story short: the country is so divided on fundamental issues that the parties don't have to compete to impress their base on the smaller issues, they're going to support them no matter what
Because Republicans aren't a policy-based party, they're an anti-Democrat party. Once Democrats started supporting environmental policies, Republicans had to be against them.
I don't really mind this desu
Imagine being a hunter. The democrats don't want you to be able to have guns or kill animals for sustenance. The republicans don't want you to have land in which you need to hunt.
>democrats don't want you to be able to have guns or kill animals for sustenance
I believe that is a very small minority of democrats. Most that I talk to are just opposed to assault weapons, and they understand why hunting is beneficial to the ecosystem.

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*destroys your landscape*
pssh, nothing personnel kid
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Better get your tinfoil hat then.
Honestly if you're still posting NPC responses like
In the current year you are an actual retard. All of those "schizophrenics" have been proven right about literally everything. With Snowden, overnight all the normalfags went from "haha only a paranoid nut would believe that" to "haha we all knew the government was doing that haha who cares xD"
>muh tinfoil hat xD
Go fuck yourself you catchphrase spewing chatbot retarded faggot
>Mainstream was wrong once
>Therefore mainstream is wrong in everything
Retard. No other way to put it, really.
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>I believe the television
>n-n-NO U are the retard
Fuck off you leftist idiot
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>Lie to me once, shame on you.
>Lie to me twice, shame on me.
>Mainstream be all like, "Engage the Lie Master 9000!"

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