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Vast trails, rivers, mountains etc

What are some of the biggest /out/ achievements in the world?
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>>1655689
My coworker did Miami to Georgia in like four days or something on a longboard. He’s sponsored for downhill tho
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>>1655689
Becoming a respected vlogger.
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Completed a 6 month trail work backcountry camp program. 15 other strangers living and working together with out much rest from seeing each other all the time... got outdoor Jobs easy after that. Ama
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>>1655950
Crossing Antarctica with horses would be a bigger achievement.

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>have some of the most beautiful unspoilt land left in the world
>everyone else loves it
>but you don't give a shit and just keep cutting and burning it for lulz

Why do Brazillians do this shit? Do they just not care? Is it the govt's fault?
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If nobody bought the products, they would stop clearing the land.

Nobody has the spine to put import taxes on primary produce that wasn't sustainably harvested.

The Indonesians burn their jungle every fucking year and smoke out SEA.

The Chinese fishing fleets are illegally on national waters and catching restricted marine life every day

(business people) make money on this trade, hence it continues
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>>1657278
>shut up retard
>YOU CAN'T MAKE ME SHUT UP
what a simpering little faggot you are.
>alt-right
cringe
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>>1656743
>rich whites are killing the planet better be racist
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>>1657342
>using the word racist unironically
cringe
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The real question is: why isn’t Brazil part of Portugal? And if it wants to defend itself from the very people that created its entity, why it doesn’t come up with its own language and culture instead of being a caricature of Portugal’s?

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new tesla /out/ vehicle
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What an ugly fucking truck. Perfect for notruck, noguns faggots.
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>>1654916
Yup and it will fuck shit up, but it will still be a continuation.
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>>1645287
How did early European civilizations ever manage to survive? Mutts are the donkeys of this age.
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Will chats about the Tesla truck, shtf and success:
https://youtu.be/ZbZw6kRhXlI
Way to go, Will!
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>>1645939
Wouldn't you just use a trailer? Am I missing something?
I mean, you don't deliver a few planks, ideally you transport half a ton at the least.

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This guy lived out in the Alaskan wilderness north of Fairbanks in a non-autistic way and lived. Hold me /out/, I'm cooming. This is the dream.
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>>1655346
I used to watch his youtube videos. hes pretty legit. has a ton of knowledge
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>>1656785
We already kill wolves if they pose a threat to people you fucking retard
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>>1657174
Two wrongs doesn't make it right.
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>>1657256
you literally couldn't go outside at night or let your kids play outside ever if there is a pack of wolves living 500 yards from your house. he wasn't just killing them for the sake of killing them. is it sad? very. but it was justified imo.
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>>1655940
awww that was such a kickass story

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My dad's going on a hike to Death Valley in a few months, and I want to buy him some stuff for his trip as a Christmas present. Any recommendations? The problem is he already has all the basic hiking stuff in excess. Any gift ideas?
If you've been to Death Valley, how did you like it?
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>>1656962
Does he have a water bladder?
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>>1657025
yeah he has a couple already
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Watch out for the undertaker
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>>1657047
What year?
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>>1656910
>My dad's going on a hike to Death Valley in a few months, and I want to buy him some stuff for his trip as a Christmas present. Any recommendations?

A water bottle...or 2.

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Looking for some leather mittens to wear over my normal gloves. I have some thinsulate fleece gloves, which are warm enough around 30-35 degrees, but any colder and they are not enough. Here are the ones I have:

https://www.amazon.com/Outray-Thinsulate-Fleece-Gloves-4423C1/dp/B015UHBISK/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA58fvBRAzEiwAQW-hzf1cNAh0jEtsDrRl9n-OcupnY77Nrz3_G6rkiKEMrBY07m51bX3TYhoCq6EQAvD_BwE&hvadid=224109349165&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=1026062&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t1&hvqmt=e&hvrand=4234117844887063943&hvtargid=kwd-305409637610&hydadcr=1749_9636387&keywords=fleece+thinsulate+gloves&qid=1576163492&sr=8-6

I would like something leather that I can wear over these so that when I pick up anything wet or muddy, it doesn't soak my fleece gloves. Looking at something like this, but without the heavy pricetag:

https://www.backcountry.com/hestra-wakayama-mitten?CMP_SKU=HES009N&MER=0406&skid=HES009N-FOR-S8&mr:trackingCode=FBA0C1C9-98F5-E911-8111-005056944E17&mr:referralID=NA&mr:device=c&mr:adType=plaonline&iv_=__iv_p_1_g_38208002049_c_154705805500_w_pla-378004940102_n_g_d_c_v__l__t__r_1o5_x_pla_y_7811_f_online_o_HES009N-FOR-S8_z_US_i_en_j_378004940102_s__e__h_1026062_ii__vi__&CMP_ID=PLA_GOc001&utm_source=Google&utm_medium=PLA&k_clickid=_k_CjwKCAiA58fvBRAzEiwAQW-hzZGfcjrf1AZyTKSOR-OKycboNHzFAwhXImfezuXHM9iEG_W1RKbC8RoCd0AQAvD_BwE_k_&rmatt=tsid:1042790|cid:690283436|agid:38208002049|tid:pla-378004940102|crid:154705805500|nw:g|rnd:13542057483066554018|dvc:c|adp:1o5|mt:|loc:1026062&gclid=CjwKCAiA58fvBRAzEiwAQW-hzZGfcjrf1AZyTKSOR-OKycboNHzFAwhXImfezuXHM9iEG_W1RKbC8RoCd0AQAvD_BwE

thank you guys for any recommendations. Also, if you think I should just ditch the thinsulate fleece ones I have and just get better gloves, then I am open to that as well.
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USGI trigger finger. Wore mine this morning doing a stand at 10°F. Have used them beaver trapping in subzero swamps for years, too.
The wool mitten liners they sometimes come with are worth their weight in gold.
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>>1657294
$9

https://www.ebay.com/itm/TRIGGER-FINGER-MITTENS-WITH-INSERTS-MEDIUM-/400805890953
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>>1657290
Outdoor research alti mitts. Removable primaloft liner, goretex, leather palm, leash to cinch them to your wrists when you slip them off. The only thing they don’t have is a neoprene snot pad on the top. Still no regrets
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>>1657364
>don’t have snot pad
An actual deal breaker for me lol

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Anyone here make squeeze boxes for practicing prior to entering the cave? Personally, I think they are a must for safety. The idea of getting stuck or having your friend get stuck, dying, and you can't get past them to get back out doesn't sound appealing.
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>>1652253
John Jones was one crazy mormon bastard
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>>1657031
not really.

he took the wrong side tunnel is all. He meant to take the one next to it that opens up at the end. Fucked up and died.
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>>1656998
There was a Donald's comics where we went spelunking to find free water unfortunatly the "water" bloated him and he whas stuck, im scared of spelucking since.
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>>1651307
The Cave Coomer
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>>1656998
>>1657056
>>1652120
There is a type of cricket trap that fishermen and reptile owners use. It involves a small container with a thin slit or small holes of a certain size. The crickets can enter, gorge on the bait inside, but when they try to get out their bellies are too bloated to get through. Then you come along and empty the trap into a carrier to feed to your lizards or use as fish bait. I've not used, thought, nor heard about one since the 1980s, but this reminds me of those.

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Do you think it's possible to hike from the canadian border to the mexican border and encounter fewer than 20 people?
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Start in the idaho panhandle then follow the eastern borders of oregon, nevada (avoiding las vegas) and southern cali and you wont meet a single person. Might see some headlights in the distance but that's it.
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>>1656772
Doubtful.
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>>1656772
Forget about the PCT or the CDT unless you are going to do them in winter.
Maybe check out the Desert Trail, dirtmonger hiked it and has a write up. Looks nuts.
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>>1656772
What a dumb question. We talking about 5-6 month, of course you see more than 20 people on trail. Even more while refuel your supplies in towns/village unless you want live like a hobbo and eat fish and rats.

Just stop thinking about such shit and go out.
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>>1656772
no

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>Background
I've decided to take this question to /out/ rather than to /adv/, because I have found that I PERSONALLY am a greater voice of wisdom than the majority of responses people get on /adv/ and frankly I find that highly disturbing.
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ANYWAY, look /out/, I want to experience things that will make me less likely to become confused over something like a masculine identity. One of my coworkers is a guy who grew up hunting and fishing and knowing how to take top care of his firearms, and honest to God, I want to learn how to be a more self-sufficient, self-protective, self-assured hunter the same way he is.

How the FUCK do I ask him to teach me how to fish and hunt? Should I just ask him straight up? Is there anything wrong with asking someone if they can let me join them to learn these things?
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>>1656909
>>1656929
>>1656989
Thanks for the suggestions, guys. This is actually a ton of really solid advice. I guess I oughtta invest more thought and effort into at least PREPARING myself to not be a totally clueless dipshit, even if he reluctantly decides he's willing to take me on.

It'd make sense that after enough mental dedication and self-taught training that I'd muster the natural courage to ask for something I know for goddamn sure I am willing and able to be competent at.

Shit, I gotta save up some dosh for the firing range.
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>>1656899
>How the FUCK do I ask him to teach me how to fish and hunt?
Is this a LARP fantasy or do you actually want to put in the work? Not memeing, this is a serious question

>>1656989
>This, take up shooting first,
Doesn't have to be shooting, but at least take something up on your own initiative and show that you've put in effort and are committed. Want to learn to fish? Buy a license and catch a bass or trout first. Then talk to your coworker and ask if you can tag along with them next time. Want to learn to shoot? Buy a gun first and at least learn some basic marksmanship skills. Want to learn to hunt? Learn to identify plants and animal signs.

You don't have to become an expert at any of these or come anywhere near equal to your coworker. But you have to demonstrate that you are willing to put in effort into learning these things on your own.

There's a reason why a lot of /out/ hates on LARP threads.
You can tell when someone's just a daydreaming larper from /v/ or /pol/, and it's clear they're not going to put much effort in beyond daydreaming on 4chan or ordering some meme knife online and never using it. But when someone demonstrates that have actually started to go outside and are willing to put the effort in on their own initiative, then /out/ is always ready to help.

Put it like this: If I had a co-worker ask me to take them fishing, and all they did was end up complaining that the reality did not match their daydreaming fantasies, I would mentally file them away as some video game LARPer and never offer to take them out again. If I had a co-worker who actually has tried fishing a few times before and wants to get better at it, I'll readily invite them out; having a fishing buddy is nice. But there's a big difference between hand-holding a LARPer who isn't willing to put any effort in themselves, versus having a buddy who simply needs to be caught up to speed on things.


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>>1657032
>some dosh for the firing range.
Dude just go out into national forest
Gun ranges are city bullshit
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>>1657035
>when someone demonstrates that have actually started to go outside and are willing to put the effort in on their own initiative, then /out/ is always ready to help
Pretty danged true.
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>>1656979
/Out/ is not the place to come out you fat homo.

>Not even for blowjobs
No shit. How do you even aim with a cock in your mouth?

Does anyone know any good spots in Washington state?
Also post your mineral collection
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>>1657009
That's about a 1/3 of them. I dont know how you cant find them if you at least have a half assed idea

Did a monster hike today and both my knees are sore. They don’t feel injured (I’ve injured them before) but I am still concerned. You guys ever get sore knees after a huge hike?
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>>1653295
Judging by those big toes in OP's picture he's already got it lol
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>>1653227
Start using trekking poles, that's what they're for. And take it easy with the super long hikes, it takes your body a while to get used to them.
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>>1656661
What did you do to treat it?
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>>1657088
I'm still treating it, but used physical therapy stretches and targeted muscle building, targeted Tai Chi, and now (starting 2 months after initial injury) daily non strenuous walks.
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>>1657099
Oh, meant to include that I got the PT stretches/exercises off YouTube. I had researched and positively IDd my issue as IT band and went from there.

The pain will be on the outer side of the knee if so. At first mine began when hiking downhill, if any of that is useful.

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The cave which Kenny Veach vanished in has been located. Someone has covered it with large rocks and some kind of mortar to seal the rocks together. Any of you guys from Nevada got some explosives? Feel like going out there and blasting this thing open?

https://youtu.be/n2VpNmvwRSM?t=3480
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>>1656593
Sorry for your loss..
Hope you can cherish the memories
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Hell yes
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>>1656669
>You know GPS can record data leading up to the cave Anyways,
gf said he left it so he couldn't be tracked in the hole.

apparently he believed the same thing, otherwise why leave it outside the hole?

It just makes me smile to know there's idiots out there exploring caves and mines thinking their phone will save them if something goes wrong. Such a glorious delusion.
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>>1657019
>otherwise why leave it outside the hole?
Perhaps he left it at that hole and went to some other hole? Because there's not much logic in leaving it right there at the entrance of the right place. If they knew the right hole, they most likely would find him.
Or maybe he faked his death and moved to another state to get rid of his gf.
Or whatever.
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>>1657055
You can't track a cell phone that's turned off. And if they're likely to find him anyways, there's no reason to abandon the phone outside.

the only plausible reasons are -as you say- he faked his death, or he's an idiot that thinks a gps works underground.

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Are these worth the price tag for someone who's planning to do some serious solo backcountry adventures next decade?
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>>1653023
Do you need to text your wife and her son your location at night?
>Yes
Get one
>No, only if I am hurt yet still awake
Get a PLB
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>>1653023
Have one and it is easy to use and worth it if you need to communicate with the outside world. There is an app you can get for your phone that will bluetooth with it so typing is reasonable. Otherwise you need to select letter by letter on the device itself which is annoying.

You can get the service in monthly chunks if you want which cuts back on the bill if aren't using it continuously.
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>>1656615
What’s a track point or a location request?
Seems like you get nickeled and dimed for using half the features with the cheap plan?
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People actually watch for EPIRBs. No one gives a shit about your satellite text messages.
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>>1656615
And how many preset messages do you get

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Anyone else /nightwalk/ ?

It clears your mind so much it's unbelievable. Everything becomes so clear and conscious which enables you to solve complex questions / issues that have been plaguing your existence

Got a crisis going on in your life? get fucking walking. Need a reason to live? bathe in the light of the moon.
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>>1657050
She's fat and was in high school at the time so no. Also no, and ew.
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>>1657097
Man, chunky lil redneck gals are sometimes kino!
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I walked a lake, you can kinda see the lights on the other side. If you turn your headlamp off and wait/walk slow for about 20 minutes it's like you have night vision.
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>>1610938
here in Montreal, you'll freeze to death trying to walk home
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Op here. looks like the bump limit is hit and this thread i made all the way back in september is finally going to hit the archive. its too cold to nightwalk for my tastes so i will probably see you again in the spring. goodnight and happy yuletide to all

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>no trail markers
>cotton clothes
>insufficient water and food reserves
>injuries
>dragging steel weapons and armor
>4 couch potatoes who never left the shire
>mountaineering in knee deep snow and ice with no tools
>spelunking balrog infested kingdom with no light source

Ok for Gandalf, he's literally an archangel, but the mortals? No way they were able to pull this off. No amount of Atlantean surplus found in grave mounds was able to get them through, that trip was suicide. The blisters would've killed them before Sauron.
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>>1649818
Forseti, Arditi, Cult of Youth, Strumpercht, Blood Axis, Sol Invictus, Blood and Sun, King Dude, Current 93, MARS, NON, of the wand and the moon. Theres lots of neofolk out there, you have to wade through the shit to find any gems though. Even within a single bands discography
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>>1648125
>poe tay toes
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>>1655260
Tribes in Africa do, but there is a reason that people wear shoes when they have the opportunity.
t. barefooter
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>>1648028
>cotton
Lol, you dummy.
Also, you forgot they had the ultimate /out/ food: lembas.
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>>1648844
TBF, your description of the hobbits would work for the special forces too.


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