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i want to do it so badly bros. maybe one day. in the meantime, are there (possibly shorter) european trails with a similar terrain/weather i can train myself on?
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>>2713222
>gave up halfway through
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>>2713219
You can fly into Atlanta International Airport, take the MARTA to the Sandy Springs Georgia REI store and take their shuttle to Amicalola Falls State park in north Georgia.
Amicalola State Park has a lodge, restaurant and visitors center. You can stay at the lodge a night or two to recover from your airline flight. The approach trail from Amicalola Falls State Park is 8 miles long and it takes you to the southern terminus of the Appalachian Trail on Springer Mountain Georgia.
Start slow. You can do 8 to 12 mile days while you get your hiking legs.
Come on down to Georgia Bro. Just do it.
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>>2713263
Eh I'd agree with him. I've done parts of the PCT, I'd love to be able to do the whole thing, and for a long time I wanted to do the Appalachian Trail after that. After hearing a lot about the Appalachian Trail, it just seems lame and overcrowded.
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>>2713263
sorry I can't take half a year off to walk on a shitty overcrowded trail surrounded by insufferable hippies.
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you know there's TONS of other multi-day backpacking trails within 100-200 mi of the Appalachian trail that are MUCH more interesting, they just require a bit more care to figure out re-supplying your food and other stuff - or you could have a car and just drive around and do different trails. All much more interesting than this trail, which people only hike to say they have hiked it so others will think they are cool.

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Have you ever gone /out/ with a man?
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>>2701140
Hot show off anon. Post bicep photo with a measuring tape.
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>>2711080
I wonder who here has the meatiest biceps...
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>>2710149
all the men ive dated were 10x easier to deal with then the women ive dated
more involved with hobbies, not just instagram, has actual life skills
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>>2694693
I only go out with men.
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>>2713411
based

Gonna buy a foldable kayak soon. Either a tucktec or one of the smaller orus.
Anybody here have any experience with foldables?
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>>2700859
>surprisingly
I paddle whitewater and my honest opinion is "don't take that thing anywhere you wouldn't be happy swimming, and don't carry anything you're not happy losing".
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>>2707828
Agree with >>2707918, post gives me serious nigger vibes.
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>>2707096
How do you trust one of those for fishing? Hooks are real sharp.
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>>2707828
If true I hope you get shot some day
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>>2707828
incel stealing.
i knew a druggie who would drive into mall parking lots, park next to cars with their roof racks full of kanoes, kayaks, skis and shit, then quickly move it all to his roof rack then drive off.
bystanders only got his license plate but the car was stolen as well...

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I have only ever hiked in Europe but I'm interested in experiences other places when I take a sabbatical next year. Pic rel is the type of environments I have hiked.
Pictures please!
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>>2713180
this is the outdoors board, not the misanthropy board
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>>2713187
Yeah thats why we go backpacking in malls and hiking in the suburbs.

Get fucked retard.
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>>2712859
thanks for the pic anon, i'll be using it as my phone wallpaper from now on, till i find a better one
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>>2712859
where'd you take this pic?
>verification not required
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>>2713225
>>2713226
lol i just found a random pic from google maps somewhere in bosnia i think? i was looking for a much better view i know exist there but couldnt find it. never been there myself so not taking any credit.

Is Oklahoma /out/?

Sorry for city pic
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>>2712285
>eberyone who doesn't like my post is a child
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>>2713146
>Anyone who doesn't understand my stupid joke besides me is a zoomer
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>>2712931
>(the high today is 54, the high Saturday is 81
Why do all normalfags think a 27 degree swing over two days is something that doesn't happen everywhere that isn't the Pacific coast.
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>>2713213
Yeah sorry I meant to reply to >>2710833, we mean the same thing.
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>>2712931
>the high today is 54, the high Saturday is 81
So warm and warmer? Where are you from anon, Florida?

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I have an outside.
Why would I spend time and money to do those thing in someone else's outside?
1. You get there
2. You put up a tent
3. You go get some firewood
4. You process the firewood.
5. You make a fire.
6. You cook.
7. Walk around (optional)
8. You sleep
Why do I need to do that in someone else's outside?
And most of those things are just inside things.
And then on top of it all, you have to buy expensive gear specifically made for doing mostly inside things, but outside in someone else's outside.
I dun gettit.
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>>2704097
I bet your outside sucks. If it doesn't, well mine does and it's not far enough away from all the faggots I live around. That's why I go further. Also, you're just glamping if you aren't practicing living with minimal resources.
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>>2704097
>Why would I spend time and money to do those thing in someone else's outside?
Because there's something else fun to do there that I can't do at home, like a mountain to summit or a lake to swim in.
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>>2704097
lol
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>>2704097
camping is like an extended cookout with your friends with various outdoor recreational activities interspersed. Go hiking, fishing, boating, tubing, etc then go back and do more cookouting. It's nice and enjoyable. What's not to get?
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>>2704097
you got a great point. as someome with 3 "outsides" readily available the whole camping thing seems weird to me too. but this is how it works and i have done it myself
>99% of /out/ doesnt have access to an "outside" so this is how they get it
>and if they do they sometimes want to see another "outside" for various reasons, it could be you need to camp there doing a hike from A to B or you simply want to be at that exact spot and its not part of your "outside"

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What type of camper are you?
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>>2712890
Anon please stop entertaining newfags.
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Slightly right of middle newtech.
Going snow camping Friday with mostly UL gear but I'll have two sleeping pads, a chair, tent, 10mm glawk and pre-made, fully hydrated food.
Only going 2 miles from the truck because we can find solitude easily when there's still 4 foot of snow on the ground.
Will be less than a half day's run for the cougars that are killing bipeds around here.
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>>2712281
/out/ is an imageboard for anime fans who like the outdoors
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>>2712281
Have you forgotten what website you're on?
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Primitivist

Living like Otzi the Iceman

Hey /out/, I'm planning a neat trip for around the end of next month with a girl and I'm looking for some suggestions. We'll have 5ish days and are looking to hit up some Alberta ghost towns, abandoned mines, old cemeteries and other similar stuff. Strange, creepy and cryptid-riddenesque spots are top tier. I'm looking for some interesting and lesser known spots to hit up. We live in Edmonton and have no problem with long drives. Could also dip into the BC mountains. Any neat ideas?
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>>2712953
Zama City is basically a ghost town at this point. Spoiler: it's not worth the drive.
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>>2713022
You can scramble over the rocks and look for the remaining 70 bodies, they found 6 skeletons when they widened the highway.
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>>2712953
>Alberta ghost towns
Coming soon to said towns
https://files.catbox.moe/s114mw.MP4
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>>2712953
I forgot the name but there's some town that got completely buried beneath a landslide. It was between two mountains I believe so would probably be a nice area even if there's not really a town to explore. Rumor has it there was gold in the towns bank at the time this happened too.

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which bow type is best for hunting and general shooting

iam convinced that traditional bows like long bow and horn bow (mongolian) are better than compound because they require skill and alot of training to master and can shoot heavier arrows and dont malfunction or need much care like the compound bow
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>>2713082
Everyone will tell you to buy a Samick Sage, and there's nothing wrong with them as they are decent quality and are definitely hunt-worthy. But I say go with an OMP instead. Similar bows, but OMP has better customer service. I accidentally destroyed my OMP bow (through sheer stupidity, not the bow's fault), and they not only replaced my bow, but let me choose any bow that they offer so I ended up getting a higher end one that's worth twice as much. They could have told me to fuck off, or just gave me a replacement for the one I broke. Real stand up American company.

Make sure your first bow a takedown so that you can learn on weaker limbs, then upgrade them when you're ready without having to purchase an entirely new bow. I'd start with 20-25 lbs max. It may seem light, but if you go heavier you will be fighting against holding form, plus you won't be able to shoot as many arrows per session. Both will significantly slow down your ability to learn and improve. The way you get better at archery is by shooting lots of arrows, so if you can only shoot 20 arrows before your shoulder is shot for the day, it'll take forever.
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>>2713093
Thanks so much! I have a lot to consider before I buy, but this helps me narrow it down a ton
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>>2712937
most people arnt autists who want to "master the bow" - you sound like the western version of a weeb obbssessed with the art of the bow, lmao.

most people who arnt mental about it think crossbows are cool.
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>>2713380
>most people arnt autists who want to "master the bow"
That's my point though. Most people aren't "autists" who care about mastering skills. Most people are peasants.

>most people who arnt mental about it think crossbows are cool.
Why are choosing your hobbies based on gaining the maximum approval from other strangers? Peasant behaviour.
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planning on running a 50# recurve with 650 grain arrow (bhead included) set up for hunting elk. i have 50# limbs for my current bow, which is a cheap takedown off Amazon, but i want to buy a new one. i would love to get anyone’s thoughts on Damon Howatt bows. they look beautiful, but is the composite material design a liability?

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it still hurts so much bros
how do I cope? he was my everything
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>>2713221

who the FUCK is he?
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what has justin timberlake got to do with /out/?
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You will have to be your own everything
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>>2713221
if he's dead dig him up and make a necklace out of his teeth

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Hey /out/

Me and a buddy are going primitive camping for the first time in about a month. We live in Texas for context. I have done quite a lot of normal camping and hiking (20+ miles day hikes), but never “primitive” camping. We will have to pack in our stuff and walk it about 5-6 miles I believe.

We are planning on just eating M.R.E.’s so we don’t have to bring a camp stove.

Picrel is the list of things I am planing on bringing. Please tell me any advice on extra items i need or unnecessary things i can drop.

Also primitive camping general/ backwoods camping general
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>>2713005
What’s the difference between primitive camping and just camping?
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>>2713340
“Camping” is a catchall term that encompasses a lot of related but distinct activities. OP meant to say he usually goes car camping, ie camping within walking distance of one’s car. Primitive camping is camping in areas with no amenities; no water, bathrooms, picnic tables, fire rings, and so on.

You get to the area by means other than driving. If you drive to an area for primitive camping, that’s called “dispersed camping.” Overlanding is similar but more specific in that there are few or no designated roads.

If you hike every day while carrying everything from campsite to campsite, it’s called backpacking. Obviously there’s some gray area with all of this nomenclature. If you carry everything but stay two days, is that backpacking, primitive camping, both, or either one?
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>>2713336
>draws
Opinion discarded
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>>2713368
OP is in Texas, so yes. If he calls them “drawers” he should move back to California.
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>>2713364
Got it, thanks.

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>post your loadouts boys, I wanna see what you're packing
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>>2712546
>100 dollar tent

Doesn't exist. Shit tier walmart tents are 250 now. If budget is a major concern buy a good quality one used for around 300 if dropping the 5 or 6 is a strain. the thing people don't seem to realize about gear is quality pays for itself over the life of the item.

I have a 50 dollar titanium shovel. It's light. It doesn't rust. it works. It doesn't dig into your hand. Meanwhile the 10 dollar one from walmart weights 5x as much and is useless from rust after a year. Buy wisely and you only have to buy once.

I also forget /out/ is mostly hobos and underage. It's not 2016 anymore, thank trump and then bidenomics for everything doubling in price. 1 dollar today is worth 50 cents from 2016, and it shows in gear prices.
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>>2713111
walmart tents are still $30
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>>2713111
>I refuse to use internet searches and think everyone else does too
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>>2713111
Damn, what a stupid post. New, great quality, lightweight tents are around $300. A quality, name brand titanium trowel is $15 while AliExpress knockoffs are probably $5.
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>>2713111
Based digits. You know it's a quality post when multiple /out/ists reeeeeeeeee about it

Why would you want other people to see you before you see them? That would make me very uncomfortable, like sitting at the very first table in the break room with your back to entrance. I don't own a single piece of clothing or gear that is any color except Earth brown, olive drab green, and stone grey. The whole point of going out in the woods is escaping humanity and becoming invisible and being left the fuck alone.
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>"I don't want to be shot by hunters/boomers/red necks!"
Skill issue, if you get shot then clearly you weren't camouflaged enough, you should be able to get close enough to record their voices & play them at different pitches to fuck with them.
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>>2713241
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtJzw-hgTTw
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>>2710527
I just have a multicam shirt because it was the cheapest abrasion resistance layer I could find that would also seal up well against the 8-legged blood balloons.
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>>2713311
Pantyhose
Yer welcum
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>>2713311
I have one of these.

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What’s it going to take to stop this man?
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>>2712959
I just started watching this guy and did he always sound like he is on the verge of killing himself so was this a post-wife development.
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>>2713237
This
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1 jab and that was it
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>>2713289
>>2713237
>>2713066
>>2712977
QRD?
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>>2713298
Steve is a leaf youtuber who does 'stealth camping' in spots where camping is not allowed. Behind roadside billboards, wooded strips near highways, abandoned buildings, etc. A year ago (more?) his wife passed away suddenly and he stopped filming videos for a while. She had previously dropped him off at a lot of his camping locations. When he came back he was obviously affected by it, and his 'Crazy Neighbor' named Glen who he was friends with and who had appeared in videos before, was clearly helping him through it. Crazy neighbor was recently diagnosed with some terminal illness, and then died.
When his wife died, we started making jokes that he had killed her and his 'stealth camping' was really because he was on the run from the RCMP. Now another person close to him passes away, and the joke becomes even funnier/sadder.

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There are literally hundreds of attractive young women trying and quitting the AT right now, they need your help and motivation anon. Will you be there to save them in their time of need and to spur them onwards down the trail? Or will you let them suffer and quit shortly after the trailhead?
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>stress you're putting on your body
It's better than getting no sleep and never moving and sitting at a computer screen all day breaking my back and eating goyslop. Also, when I returned, I just wanted to go back. The mental frustration knowing how much better things could be for me if I were back outside rots the contents of my mind until I want to stick a finger up into my nose and swirl it around up there.
>Fucking weirdo trail people
Don't care. I have no friends and don't want any. Women have failed me. Chads and politicians have failed me. It's where I belong.
>2/3
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>What would possess someone to do this?
I have no immediate self control(zoomer) and will do the absolute minimum including neglecting my own health unless I'm forced, even if I hate every second of it(bad executive function). The trail and the need to purchase food provides that structure for me. As humiliating as it is as a man, I fundamentally submit to my conditions and will not take care of myself until I am forced to. That does not mean I need to give myself to another person. On the contrary, I can submit to many things and sensations. Last hike I cried joy because my head was clear and I didn't have migraines and I felt good for the first time in 12 years. The exercise, the hunger, the elements, the views, even the mosquitoes gave me relief. Even the loneliness confusingly subsided though I was mostly entirely alone the section I hiked. I was suddenly let free of my own mental prison. The foot weights temporarily removed, and the cuffs taken off. And it's the fucking school system and people putting themselves onto me as if they could give me what I needed better than what we evolved for millions of years to have could. The freedom and migraine dry spell lasted for about 3 months after I returned, and I felt a sense of arousal(that was somehow not sexual but had the same "pop" to it) looking at images of nature when I returned to my glum cubicle living space back in the city and wagecucked to help my parents with something. Even exercise was(and still is) somehow easier for me now. The pleasure I get from exercising my body is increased since I took this trip. You underestimate the benefits of hiking and being outdoors on the mind of someone who feels subhuman.
>3/3
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>>2712984
hm, not the guy youre replying to but glad to see you improved a bit going outside. I've been unwillingly confined to my home 99% of the time for around 5 years now due to mental (ex tried to kys and almost got accused of murder til she recovered and acquitted me) and physical illness (developed auto immune illness due to the stress) but also reached a point where I can go out again and thriving again

In the off chance that I'm not screaming in the void and you may be ready for change my advice is that you clean your home a little bit at a time, being careful not to clean until it mentally anguishes you. Something about cleaning makes you confront how vile you've really become and its worse than the nightmares and pain and whatever. Start with the kitchen, keep the sink clean and have the objective of having a clean sink for week, then throw out all the rot in your fridge. Get a paint mask with a p100 filter to mask the smells.

After kitchen, do bathroom, then after bathroom, do just your bed. Clean the sheets. Now you at least you have a clean place to eat, shit, and sleep. And take little projects at a time. The process can take months, as long as it gets a little better over time. And when its too much go /out/

You can listen to audio books while you clean to keep your mind off the feeling of despair.. one thing at a time anon
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>>2705232
This is a competitive job market right now
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>>2712982
Amicalola Falls State Park has a nice visitors center and lodge/ restaurant. It has an approach trail to Springer Mountain that is 8 miles long. A lot of people start the Appalachian Trail at Amicalola Falls State Park.
You can fly into Atlanta, take the MARTA to the REI Store in Sandy Springs GA and take their shuttle up to Amicalola Falls State Park. Another option is to fly into Chattanooga TN and get an Uber/ Lyft to Amicalola SP, get a room at the lodge to set up your gear and start the AT the next morning.
There are a lot of YouTube videos showing people starting off at Amicalola Falls SP.


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