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Any anon here hiked the GR10?
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How much did you prepare? How tough was it? Did you camp or stayed in hostels?
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>>1657375
>>1657378
I've hiked the GR11 and the central sections of the HRP.
>How much did you prepare?
I didn't do any specific training but I was in good shape and had done some long distance hiking before.
>How tough was it?
The Pyreneean routes are fairly tough, but nothing too hard.
>Did you camp or stayed in hostels?
Mostly camping but with the odd stay in a mountain hut.
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>>1657826
Nice. Are there shops along the GR11 or did you have to carry your food the whole time?
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>>1657940
There are plenty of chances to resupply, I mostly bought food every 3-4 days in shops along the way. Mostly ate bread, cheese, pate, cured meats, cake, nuts, normally stuff really. I didn't cook all that much. I also carried a fair bit of fresh fruit and veg. There are also of plenty of mountain huts and good little restaurants in the villages, so if you can save up a little bit of extra money. It's a crime to spend time in this part of the world not eat the good food they make there.

Climbing General #8

A place to talk about climbing in any aspect (trad, sport, bouldering, aid, alpine, etc).

Rock Climbing is a dangerous sport that can cause loss of life, limb, eyesight, or sanity.

Useful Info:
https://pastebin.com/dhTMzCqJ
Off-belay thread: >>1608601

My nuts are too small and I have no Friends
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>getting better at climbing in general
>flashing v5s regularly and sent my first v7 (still feel pretty good about this regardless of that fact that my gym grades soft)
>leading about 90% of the time at the gym, harder and harder stuff
>sort of approaching my physical limit on lead although its still kind of far away

feels really really good bros. me and a friend are planning to do some long multi-pitches this coming summer and get into trad the following summer. anyone have any recommendations for endurance and flexibility exercises? specifically hip flexibility

also gri-gris are amazing and make lead belaying about 1000000x better. and fall training is key for all lead newbies
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Hangboarding helps?
I've done a few V7-8s and a shit ton of V6/5s at Leavenworth but couldn't hang on a hangboard for the life of me. Never tried before, only campus boards which are a bit different. The edges feel small as fuck compared to real rock. The edges I use that small are generally near the top of the boulder where you can use mostly friction. Also I'm heavy as fuck for my height 5'7 165lbs, though it's "mostly" good weight from lifting which might be why it's so difficult. Only asking here because my friends who are v5ish climbers could hang for a few seconds which seemed impressive to me. I couldn't even hang and my fingers are still burning from trying to crimp those little edges.
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>>1657857
try some offset hangs: one hand on a juggier hold and the other hand on a crimp. then switch hands. work down the sizes like that.
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Thoughts on climbing the Matterhorn? I am kind of scared to do it. About 10 people die every year trying to ascend it. It's slippery, has a lot of loose rocks and ice even during summer. It's also very steep so one mistake or slip and you're dead.
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>>1658005
>wait until 10 people have died since january
>go climb it
easy

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Anyone here from Montana or lived there? What is it like living in that kind of rustic, outdoors oriented environment? I'm strongly considering moving there when I get out of the Army because I love the outdoors and I love the solitude of it. Is it a good place to raise a family?
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>>1657757
>>1657766
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>>1657757
When I lived in West Yellowstone there were shirts for sale of a giant mosquito grasping a person that said "get carried away in West Yellowstone". It wasn't baseless shit. I mean, they weren't "lumbering", there was just shitloads of them.
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>>1657749
It fucking sucks, never come here. Stay in california you worthless faggot
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>>1657749
Same peak different view.

>isolated from the government

>while still getting service benefits

It sucks stay away. No one likes /pol larpers here
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>>1657755
>>1657749
Yeah. Go freeze your ass off, we're full too.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb6KrbSCiGk
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Looks more like hitting roads to me.
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>>1657660
>needs a spotter on a 2wd dirt road
....what
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>>1657660
My grandmas lane-way is more of trail than that
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I was gonna get mad at them for ruining trails for everyone else but then I saw they're actually driving on roads that looked to be shit quality in the first place (although cagers probably had a hand in that).
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>>1657660
>$100,000 worth of shiny new trucks doing trails that a $2k Craigslist Jeep XJ could do.

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Okay

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Input appreciated
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>>1654168
Hammock
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>>1654168
Cheapo $5 or $15 off-brand foam rollup sleeping mat from big 5 sporting goods
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Klymit static V luxe or luxe SL, insulated if needed.
Anything inflatable narrower than ~65 cm has no right to exist. You'll constantly feel like you're falling off of it unless you can lay perfectly motionless for the whole night. If you sleep on your back, you'll need to construct support platforms for your elbows and arms, if you sleep on your side, either your knees of your feet will hang off the pad. And you generally want the it to be longer than your height, not shorter. Those 200 extra grams won't kill you, faggot.
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>>1654168
Thermarest Exotherm without a doubt.
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>>1654573
Even when I hammock camp I always bring a ground pad as a backup in case there's no viable trees to hang from. If I don't need to sleep on the ground I slide the pad in between the layers of my hammock to cut down on the old "my back is cold" problem.

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RlWH1s1ZPAA

How does it feel being a poser /out/?
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i dont have a drivers license
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I saw the Northern lights when I lived in Anchorage back in '78. I don't need to freeze my balls of to prove or justify anything to you.
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That manlet is pretty chill. Good on him for chasing his dreams
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>>1656944
>Boomer detected
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>>1656882
Based. This is one of my dreams.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0bdrsN1peg
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It all just kind of blurs. I think I'm losing mental capacity quickly. Lead poisoning?
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>>1656077
Screen poisoning. Go out!
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>>1653779
a few months ago, i attended my granfathers funeral
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>>1653779
This dude hammocked camp while doing a winter ascent of Mt Washington.
>BASED
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>>1653779
Exactly 5 years ago of course

Hey /out/. I've got family that live in an /out/ area and I was looking to get them a a unique and meaningful Christmas gift. Specifically, I'm trying to get a nice topo map of their land and the surrounding area. I've not had any luck with usgs.gov because lolWV. Does anyone know where I might be able to find something in decent resolution?
TL;DR, need decent looking topo maps of WV Eastern Panhandle.
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>>1657720
>>1657727
aaand i just read your full post. they definitely mapped it. maybe it's out of print?
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>>1657727
>>1657728
That was actually really helpful. I was looking in the wrong spot for stuff and checking the website again while looking for "quadrangles" actually turned up exactly what I needed. Thanks anon!

For anyone else that needs it, go to: https://ngmdb.usgs.gov/topoview/viewer/#4/39.98/-100.02 and zoom to where you want. Click on the location and it will pop up with options on the side for downloading whichever map.
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>>1657754
wow, ty for link anon was not even looking to buy a map but the USGS site is pretty damn nice
Might even be better than caltopo if you're not planning on annotating
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>>1657758
Don't even need to buy. I downloaded like, 6 geopdfs and they come with proper map data like key, scale, and direction for all the Norths.
Now it's just a matter of getting it printed and framed.
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>>1657754
lol. sometimes dumb wins. glad i could help.

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I post pics from my gamecam every once in awhile. I'm curious what everyone else captures on theirs.
I just recently moved mine to where I've seen bobcat tracks, hopefully I'll get some good pics this week.
What does everyone else get on theirs?
I mostly get deer and turkey, but every once in awhile I find something cool.
Pic related.
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>>1657735
I mostly just show up on other's game cams.

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How does /out/ cold soak their oatmeal and ramen in the winter?
For me, I tuck it between my base layer and insulating layer. What do you do?

>inb4 bring a stove
fuck off with your gourmet larp shit, pic related is peak /out/
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>>1657075
more lke peak faggot
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>>1657184
>Your idea of winter isn’t my idea of winter so you’re not as masculine as I am.
Come back and talk about seasons in the summer you wannabe badass. Anytime you faggots talk about how “not cold” any weather is I automatically know you’ll bitch and moan when it breaks 90, blast your AC and talk about how great your home area is. You can bundle up and live in the cold. You can only take off so much in the heat. Southern people are better than you.
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>>1657269
I do love his vids but they seem a bit... contradictory? I guess that’s the word for it. He constantly says he wasn’t concerned with the base weight but then he seems to obsess over it. Granted, if I had the budget I’d own most of his stuff, but he’s an experienced hiker... why is he cutting so many ounces off only to jam a camera in to everything and blast his weight through the roof again?
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>>1657153
Hey man, you indoors now?
Last I saw an old friend was helping you out a little.
I hope you're not still bouncing around with a tarp down by the river, its getting to cold.
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>>1657683
Well, the most accurate way to put it is an old friend's dad fell and fractured his back and they needed someone to stay with him until he recovers.

They were actually pretty desperate and afraid I wouldn't agree to it (I rarely agree to shit), but it pays pretty well so I agreed.

It's turned out pretty great. I'm staying in a back room in his old country house pretty far /out/. Been taking walks most days trying to rehab muh knee. >>1654327

I'm looking forward to bouncing around in my tarp again tho. If I hadn't fucked my knee I would have already gone before this opportunity even arose. This is a great experience itself though. I enjoy being around old timers.

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Alright so I was going to ask this on /an/ but I figure you guys are probably more qualified. We have a mouse infestation and the mice won't let themselves be caught by nonlethal traps, we caught two young ones by hand but the adult ones are too fast and too stealthy so we're using lethal traps. Provided I find them within half a day (I check the traps 3 times a day), would I be able to use them as stock for soup? I'm planning on skinning one anyway to do something with the skin. I'm only worried about possible disease. How bad is this idea?
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>>1652075
You will eat the bugs while they fuck, anon. While they fuck. Oh yes.
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>>1652065
Most hantavirus cases are in the country which does not make them safe.
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>>1654489
This seems needlessly cruel. Sprung traps work just fine.
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>>1652055
/an/ here.

be aware most of the people in your silly thread are from /an/. There's a huge overlap between the boards.

regarding your question, it's fine. They're about as dangerous as any wild game, which isn't a lot more dangerous than meat you can buy at the store.

your biggest risk is that they've eaten poison, but hey, I'm sure it's worth the risk to try that savory mouse stew.
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>>1657182
Sprung trap doesn't reset by itself, limited catch, inefficient.

What's your choice of knife sharpener? Do you use different techniques/tools for kitchen knives vs bushcraft knives?
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>>1654593
Normally, that is due to a rolled edge and the hone just straightens it back. Stainless steel knives have that problem a great deal when used as kitchen knives. The SS is softer and people tend to be pretty harsh when using knives in the kitchen. Like cutting on surfaces other than a proper cutting board or cutting against bone with the wrong type of knife.

It took me about 5 years to train people, in my household, to stop cutting directly on dinner plates, stop tossing dirty knives into the metal sink, clanking them against hard surfaces, or even putting them blade down, in the dishwasher, with other tableware utensils.

>>1654624
There are times I wish I had a long handled screwdriver.

>>1654708
"Razor sharp" isn't an angle, it is a smoothness to the angle. It shouldn't be confused with the angle a razor blade is shaped to. Microscopic jagged edges are polished out. This is why you can take an axe edge, one of the widest angled edges, and polish it to be razor sharp then shave with it. You don't change the edge angle when doing this. With fewer surface imperfections on the edge the better it will stand up to wear and tear. You actually increase the cutting surface by removing what is essentially a microscopic serrated edge, making it smoother.

The largest problem people have, is with their sharpening style and/or materials. They can easily change the angle, even with a leather strop and polishing compound, simply because the edge presses the leather down like a pillow which instantly changes the geometry of the polishing surface. Which is why only very light pressure is needed while stropping.
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>>1653623
I too have one and use this
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>>1652587
Double sided coarse and fine DMT diamond stone to set bevel and/or correct edge damage, 1000 grit waterstone, 6000 grit waterstone with natural, kangaroo strop with white Japanese compound on the rough side, smooth on the bare side. I sharpen everything from my choppers to my puukko to my straight razor in exactly this manner.

Don't forget to flatten your whetstones. I use King brand stones but hope to one day upgrade to Chosera.

For quick and dirty edge maintenance if I manage to damage it I put a little white compound on my leather boots to strop it out or if it is severe chip or fold I can simply use the diamond file on my leather man charge and then boot strop it again.

My methods work for maintaining V-edges, scandi edges, and convex grinds alike. I have also convexed a v-edge with these methods as well as experimented with scandi-vex on a couple moras.
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>>1654133
You can get a decent high grit pocket stone for not much more, if you don't need any low grit shit and only need to maintain an already sharp edge.
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>>1656300
Chosera stones are really nice. I have a Chosera 3000 and it has a super tactile feel, it also cuts pretty quickly too.

Hey /out/
I live out in the woods and have a lot of nice land to walk but I'm way overweight and working on getting fit.
I have been wearing just standard loafers when walking but want something more suited to long walks on various ground types.

I want sandals because I like to just throw my shoes on, grab my staff, and take off into the woods when the need strikes me, I find I am less likely to come up with a reason not to get outside if I do it quickly.

Once saw someone say KEEN was a good brand, then the next person say they were awful, so not sure where to start. I wear about a 12 or 13 if that helps.
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>>1654701
I have a pair of those keens that I've used for warm weather fishing this year and they're still going strong and are pretty comfortable. I read some complaints before I bought them about them not holding up to serious use very well. I'm happy with mine.
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>>1654701
I don’t get the sandals thing personally and can’t offer any suggestions. Seems like an easy way to stub your toe or get a stick wedged under your toenail. To each their own though. For a sneaker recommendation though, I’d recommend something like Salomon xa pro 3d. They (as well as many other brands) come with lock laces which literally take less than a second to tighten or loosen. Not sure how much of a lazy fuck you are
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>>1655164
it depends on the terrain. i ended up getting some sandals in moab utah and they're great for walking around the rocky desert. i got tevas and like them.
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>>1654701
>Once saw someone say KEEN was a good brand, then the next person say they were awful, so not sure where to start. I wear about a 12 or 13 if that helps.
i didn't like mine initially but they're nice once you get used to them. the bottom is a little goofy shaped and the heel is stiff out of the box. if you do get used to them, yeah you can hike a while and they dry off well. can just hose em down when you get home too. one drawback is you get weird tiger stripe tanlines on your feet
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Me and my buddy climbed up to Gem Lake over near Glen Haven and he did the whole thing in fucking chacos. He loved em, never had a problem.

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i live in an apartment in a shitty city with no community garden and i need to grow some vegetables, how do i do it /out/?
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>>1655924
>Dehumidifier
do you really need that though?
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>>1655923
try the kratky method.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z0NaYpVHMs
Here's an academic overview from prof kratky himself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiGQsfiPwkI
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>>1655923
see: >>1653451
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>>1655924
This
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>>1655923
>how do i do it /out/?
Depends on what you're growing. I'm doing tomatoes and spinach; the tomatoes are in soil and the spinach in is Kratky Bottles. Other types of hydroponics involve a lot of equipment that isn't really worth investing in for veggies. If you're comfortable with electricity, you can get 50W COB LEDs and heatsinks from Amazon, Aim for 25W/sqft for leafy plants (lettuces), 40W/sqft for fruiting/flowering plants (tomatoes, broccoli). Otherwise T5 fluorescent lights are the best option for something already setup for people who don't want to get electrocuted. Also, you'll probably want to tent in your area, at least to support the lights above the plants, but also to keep the light directed towards the plants, so look into panda poly. And fertilizer is important. Fert salts seems to be working pretty well, and despite not technically being organic, they're organic.

>>1656045
>do you really need that [dehumidifier] though?
Depends on the amount of humidity the plants are putting off relative to the amount of space that you have available and the frequency with which you do an air exchange in that space. I've needed to use them before, but I don't need to use one right now.

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What's a good poncho, I'd like to be able to wear it over a 70L rucksack
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normal shitty poncho + garbage bag for pack
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the US poncho copies are nice and cheap and pretty light and compact, german poncho in OP pic is a fucking tank and while being much heavier i really cant see it ever letting moisutre through
as people are saying you want some kinda goretex pants too, shit wont keep your ankles dry
if you are tall like me anything below the knee is getting soaked and its gonna run down into your fancy waterproof boots
i always bring full goretex + poncho. even if its not bad enough to use the poncho, great as shelter tarp, groundsheet, using it like a sack to pick up firewood or rocks,
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>>1657277
They are called gaitors. You need some knee high ones. I am 5'8" and I got caught in a heavy storm shower. Worked good , but everything below my knees were soaking wet. Lol
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>>1656847
dont take one made from synthetic material. Austrian "Wetterfleck" weathercoat made from Lodenstoff. ist Pretty Kino plus the rain doenst soudn anoying while wearing the hoody
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>>1657506
What's the difference between Lodenstoff, Strichloden, and Melton wool?


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