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When in your life did you realize that you were an /out/sider? I used to be depressed all the time, but after I started going out and appreciating the sky, wildlife, fresh air and greenery I feel like I found the meaning of life.
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>>1580524
How do i grt ascooter like this
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>>1580524
started doing psychedelics and realized how disgusting society it
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>>1581901
some of his stuff seems really comfy
>>1582585
what psychadelics would you reccomend to someone who has only been drunk?
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>>1582632
not that guy but lsd is one of the safest drugs you can take. I would recommend having someone you trust there with you the first time, but otherwise lsd is the top of psychs imo. Shrooms are fun and feel more natural but its a different experience and is a bit more prone to bad trips than lsd.
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>>1582632

magic truffels are still legal in in many places (i think)

they cheap and way less disgusting than shrooms.

shrooms are great but its hard having a good trip when ur almost vomitting for an hour that feels like 10 in the beginning of the trip

Hi /out/.
City recent circumstances has it that I am in the market for some trekking poles that I can keep in my bag. As I'm a complete novice when it comes to hiking, I've come to the experts of /out/ for advice. Looking for poles that
>strong and may withstand a swing or two
>foldable/collapsible
>light
With so many on the market I don't know what's good and what's not. Hope you can help me /out/
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>>1582667
Like I said, neon spandex.
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>>1582673
>Salkantay route
>roads
>shops along the way
>tour guides
>loads of people
>generic and touristy enough for social media cred
Thanks for proving my point. When you try something a little harder, maybe you will understand the value of a good hiking pole
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>>1582684
>roads
>shops
>in fucking salkantay
Jesus Christ, my worse problems comment was spot on I see.
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>>1582612
yay another pole thread full of the same retardation. OP just get some black diamond trail pros and be done with it.
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>>1582628
>>1582675
>spandex
terrible for /out/. snags on brush and mosquitoes bite through it. loose fitting, tightly woven clothes ftw.

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Do any of you use /out/ to get stronger, faster and improve your stamina or do you hit the gym to achieve that?
If you do use /out/ as training ground, what activities are you doing?
Does it make sense to pack a heavier load just for the sake or exercising?
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>>1565798
Lame
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>>1566335
I dunno, rocks are not that heavy, they just have an odly shape, and sometimes stuck in the ground. I think is better to squat at the gym, you can even slowly increase the weight, in a more controlled way.
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>>1579276
>controlled way
Ain't nobody got time for that.
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>>1579276
Rocks are pretty heavy. Guess it depends where you live.

1 ft cubic foot (0.028 cubic meters) of granite is about 172 lbs (78 kg).

If your back squat is around 3pl8 or greater, a 200 lbs rock will do the trick. It's somewhere between high two front squats and high rep Zerchers, plus the actual loading of the rock from floor for each set is intense in its own right.

If you want a greater challenge, you can go for lunges with rocks.

It's also way more fun than squatting at the gym. Every new rock is a slightly new shape and a slightly new challenge. The barbell never changes.
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>>1565695
no. I improve my strength, speed and stamina to go /out/
by going /out/

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Does anyone have experience with low carb trekking food?
I was always taught the 421, to load up on carbs (4 parts), then good fats (2 parts), and easy on protons (1 part)
The rationnale was that protons, while good for muscle building create more waste, which increase the need for flushing, hence water?
On a trek, I usually rely heavily on carbs via fruits, oats and bread and was wondering if there were other ways of going about it
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>>1582082
>and easy on protons
that's fag hippy shit, anon. protons are great for you. I prefer to ionize them myself for some extra kick, but that's just my preference.
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>>1582601
Me too, but I generally break down my protons into subatomic particles for full energy conversion.
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>>1582601
>>1582603
I love to go proton jumping. Would that be considered /out/?
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>>1582082
Carbs generally utilize more water than proteins though? It holds it as water retention in the fat layer but does nothing for actual hydration
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>>1582603
seems a bit costly to me... the portable accelerators they sell at dicks and wallyworld don't quite get the job done at smashing, and the real quality ones you order are so pricey... poorfags BTFO
yeah I just use mine to ionize them and project them right onto my tellomeres. works wonders.
>>1582616
only if you're batoning while you're doing it

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>fapping while /out/
Is is a good idea?
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>>1582757
[unfiltered city tap water ingestion detected]
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>>1582461

Usually try to have sex on all of the worthwhile hikes as a way to tag a memory. Not hard to run a quickie in during a trip. But if I'm doing a hike by myself I might rub one out when I know I'm super secluded (wilderness area). Makes me appreciate the scenery more when I get pumped full of that dopamine.
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>>1582711
take your incel crap back to >>>/r9k/ dweeb.
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>>1582757
Ahmen. Not exactly thrilled about ass smell, but I've learned to be ok with it, since, you know, it's right there. But smelly pussy is not … it's not good.
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>>1582500
>i gave the local deer population aids
kek

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I only have about $7,000 saved up and I want to get a wooded lot where I can make a permanent shelter to live at. I'm having a hard time finding anything, is it possible to do something like this for $7,000 or less?
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>>1582095
Very interested mnon
What county?
What tips?
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>>1582122
>>1582166
I don't really have any /out/ related stories, most of my work is with people who have houses they don't know how to care for/new parents with no idea what they need to do. The public health nuisance office handles most of the hobo tent camp calls because they are the folks that respond to complaints from the public.

The biggest thing Mr Debris Hut was going to be troubled by was the lack of insulation and lack of heat. We advised him to buy or build a framed structure with proper insulation and either bring in electrical service or LP for a proper heater. What he did was make a 12x16 pallet walled shed, stuff the pallets with leaves and shit, make a double walled tarp roof, and buy an old wall tent wood stove from goodwill.

He didn't die in the fire, but it did burn down, they suspect that the fire wasn't caused by him screwing up the install, but rather by him huffing paint in a one room shack heated by a wood stove with a lit fire.

His guardian got him committed upon release from the hospital.
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>>1582352
Scott. Check your local laws and then don't.

If you must, find a township with minimal rules, build a proper clapboard shack and dig the outhouse pit down hill from your well. Make an insulated well house with a heat source (making it a dog kennel works pretty decent, otherwise a candle/oil lamp in a carefully fireproofed install) or build the clapboard shack over your well. A sandpoint and a handpump can be installed by one dude with only hand tools if he's smart.

Spend decent money on the wood stove, learn to pressure can, keep vermin out.

But seriously, try a little harder and actually make a cabin to code with running water please. Safety codes are written in the blood of the stupid, they are seldom just someone's whim.
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>>1582379
At least he tried... Huffing paint/glue has it's risks.
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Dude $7000 is nothing. Cheap land can be had but nothing that cheap unless it's in the shittiest, most unlivable of badlands. Maybe work for a few year. If you live super Spartan mode then even a basic landscape labourer can save up a few grand a year. I'd personally not want to allot any less than 20K for a project like that. Even that is lean if you want land you can farm.

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how far did you go into the wild today?
>ITT outings
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Did some hiking off trail on an empty stomach (bad idea), lost my water bottle, then lost myself. Took me an hour to find the road again and I almost passed out
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>>1581489
Took a nice walk around a pretty lake in the High Uintas with my wife and kids. Picked wild flowers and skipped rocks.
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>>1581552
Very cool, recently some family sold their back 40 to developers and it filled up quick. Animals have been displaced and coyotes have been a lot braver by us. Luckily, it's a vegetable farm so we weren't hurt to bad. Alpaca farm on the ridge have been extra vigilant.

Recently went on a 4 day fishing/camping trip with my friends up at the Turtle Flambeau. First serious trip for them and their attitudes and packing reflected that. Had lots of fun but there were some very stoic moments. Mostly just canoed, caught pike from the campsite beach, and one friend lead an "expedition" to see the flowage. Lots of firsts for the guys. I got a text from one saying they were bummed out from being back.
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>>1581497
hope you feel better anon :)
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89 miles on the Colorado River starting at Lee's Ferry to Phantom Ranch on a raft.

More like glampung with rib eyes the first night, pork loin the second and salmon the last. All charcol grilled with cheese cake, dutch oven brownies and grilled asparagus for good measure.

It really was a great trip!

Posting from Poland. Anyone wants to go on a kayaking trip next year?
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>>1581051
only in 2d
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mode banuj za siekiere
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>>1582856
Are you going to keep this thread alive for a year?

It looks like you have to bump it every 1 or 2 days. Since bump limit is 300 you could make it.

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I don't have a clue. Does anyone know what this is
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Those are the shopping cart bumpers like from the Walmart. Dog bless
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>See /out/ thread featured on the homepage
>"Huh... what's this? Maybe a break from /v/ would be nice."
>Learn you can make trees grow differently by nailing sticks and planks to it.
>"This thread is pretty comfy. I- >>1568197
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>>1580236
Depends on what you consider to be a kid. Usually mothers would take care of their children until they were done breastfeeding, then the other children/the village would raise them into adulthood
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>>1580250
Great rebuttal, cunt
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>>1568339
lol

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Ehi guys, I'm interested in buying a flask to bring some liquor with me while /out/. Nothing fancy, I'm only interested in durability.
After some research on the internet, most people suggest Coleman but I also read it's made in China and that's a no by me.
Which flask would you suggest for, let's say, under 30$?
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>>1580886
That is a goood idea, titanium flask!!
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>>1580886
>>1582251
>titanium flask
That's actually a good idea. Sure, they are pricey, but it looks like they're worth it.
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>>1579565
Just clean it after every fill and it'll be fine, otherwise just get a plastic flask that already comes with booze in it.
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>>1579574
If it's grappa, I'd recommend a cheaper, plastic flask. Some metal flasks may be treated, but the acidity in wines and such can have an effect on the metal and produce off-flavors.
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Got picrelated as a gift for myself. Super light, and does not taste like metal. It's also made in Japan, which is nice. But if you don't feel like spending much, I would get something like this:

https://gsioutdoors.com/soft-sided-wine-carafe-750-ml.html

It's designed to hold alcohol, so as far as plastic goes, you at least don't need to worry about it leeching shit into your spirit.

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I want to set a straight rope for my tarp, right end will be with carabiner, but what kind of knot(or some other solution) would be the best for the left end? Ideally something that will help me to tighten the rope easily but is also easy to dismantle. I was thinking of cow hitch with draw loop, but are there better solutions?
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>>1577369

Just get a pack of these and watch all Le Ultralight Primotive MayMay purists on here spaz out because you're doing something they don't like.
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>>1577369
Try and imagine this is possible;

Tie 2 alpine butterfly loops in the rope, make one of the loops large enough to fit your hand through.
Use the smaller loop to use as part of a trucker's hitch.
Finally, use a blake's hitch to tie off the rope.

Now, the clever part. Pull on the second alpine loop to put incredible tension through the rope. Then, while still holding the loop, slide the blake's hitch along the rope until it takes up the slack and you can let go of everything without losing any tension in the rope.
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>>1577369
Truckers hitch
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Boline on one tree, coonass come-along on the other. Thighten her up, make it off with a couple slippery half hitches.
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>>1577369
Clove hitch. Set tension on the first loop, then lock on the second. Or use a larks head instead of the carabiner on the right then just a square knot on the left with the two working ends. 2nd method requires doubling the length of rope tho

It's impossible to be a true Chad if you don't hunt.

Protip: You can't.
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>>1582124
Are you being willfully ignorant? The arrival of humans directly correlates to megafauna extinctions (see blitzkrieg hypothesis). The older the human population the more large animals survive and for longer, compare Africa to North America.
If you look at something like a mammoth where the gestation period is almost 2 years for a single calf, taking one or two individuals from a herd could absolutely destroy the population. Obviously climate change was a factor, I'm not denying that but the poster I was responding to was implying that Europe was over hunted for too long and north America wasn't. North America was over hunted and not just during the pleistocene, after European contact animal populations were devastated, and as time went on things like market hunting, the fur trade, the great depression all helped destroy those species further. It was literally the current model of conservation brought on by hunters that brought a lot of animals back from the brink. I'm being a little reductive because there's too much to unpack and parse on this Burmese cave painting forum but I recommend you do some research on your own.
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>>1582167
I'm familiar with the hypothesis, that's why I said what I said. Because I don't really buy it.

There is only evidence of humans hunting 5 of the 40ish extinct species during that period. What about all of the smaller species that went extinct at the same time? Hunters killed millions of them over a couple hundred years with spears? Many of the species also went extinct before any human contact.

Nobody knows for sure what happened but I imagine it has more to do with the end of the last ice age than anything.

And I agree 100% with you about market hunting and the north American conservation model being a huge success.
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>>1576941
>>1576976
nothing he said is objectively wrong though, you guys are reaching and it shows.
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>>1582387
Ah I thought you were that other guy. Yeah, I think climate change probably played the biggest role in most of the die offs, especially in the smaller species as the landscapes around them changed. I think that's supported by the evidence of larger animals shortening gestation periods and generally dwarfing no? I think humans came in after and did a number on what was left. Having little to no agriculture for some time would back that up.
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>>1582524
Fuck off, brainlet

Has any of you ever been on a spiritual journey. What should I take with me, and how long should it last? Is it possible to have a spiritual journey without the use of drugs?
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>>1582421
How can I tell if my dopamine receptors are fucked? I was recently walking in the woods alone and I felt a strange feeling of euphoria, was that a spiritual experience?
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>>1582048
Nice OP you killed someone by drinking their water cache.
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>>1582478
>was that a spiritual experience?
Kinda. To me, I would say it's more a complete sense of inner peace and contentment than feeling "giddy".
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>>1582102
You’re welcome fren
>>1582118
I was dumb for not bringing enough water. I was in my early 20’s and thought I was invincible
>>1582406
>says the 400lb virgin that’s never left his mom’s basement
>>1582533
Better him/her than me. I hope the critters enjoyed their corpse.
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>>1580289
>I'll recommend you read the books Obtaining the Holy Spirit by St Sarov and The Practices of St Ignatius and Orthodoxy and the religion of the future by seraphim rose.

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Going on my second motocamp trip next week. Gonna cross the pass and hop roadside streams until evening.
Does anyone else camp or fish from their bike? Trade tips?

I've the kind of background they now call "bushcrafting". For the first outing, it was really helpful to build whatever luxuries I needed. I think I'll pack a chair this time, but can forgo all cooking equipment.
And when I got to needing the fire for more than cooking, I improvised a something similar to those slav longfires, as here: https://youtu.be/P1L-jj6P4gk
Fishing was a bust, but I've never done a river before so I expected it. Since it's 100° over there, I can try wading to get to better spots this time.
Also, does bacon expire in the heat? I brought spicy ramen as my backup, but meat would be nice.
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>>1582552
>Be me
>too fat to hike
>park on a well graded forest road
>camp next to my car in my amazon hammock
>People drive past me to get deeper into the forest
>get angry that other people dare enjoy their weekends differently than me.
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>>1582553
>too fat to hike
Says the one sitting down the entire time they're in nature.
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>>1582588
You don't sit down when offroading a motorcycle retard.
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>>1582552
>>1576056
Imagine not having millions of acres of Wilderness area near you that doesn't allow vehicles of any kind.
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>>1575601
gives me days gone vibes, have fun

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>be me
>shithead vidya-addicted loser
>get tired of feeling depressed and a mess all the time
>browsing /k/ read about this board, decide to check it out
>ehithisseemsgood.jpeg
>decide to try some of the dshit talked on this board
>went for my first long hike, tiring but rewarding
>tried fishing
>got into gardening, helping my father with his little plot of land, never felt more close to him
>dropped a few pounds
>actually feeling better and don't want to spend so much time on the pc anymore
>occasionaly browsing /out/, /k/ and /diy/ but not on 4chan 24/7 anymore
>damn, living is great
Thanks /out/, you guys are great
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>>1581557
because life is shit and meaningless. so if some anon can send me some warm fuzzies via the internet then that's cool. it's a brief glimmer in the void.
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>>1581510
good job
you're gonna make it
i really need to get my shit together
i used to love going innawoods but now i work so much that i only ever sleep on the weekends and i never get time to do what i want
i wish i could afford to keep living in wa
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>>1582509
based and spiritualpilled
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Based
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>>1581510
Congrats! I'm very happy for you.
Its definitely a journey so stay strong and keep on keeping on!


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